Hi everybody.
First of all, i must be honest and tell you all that a lot of time is passed since the last time i've flashed a ROM on my kindle. I need to say this because probably the cause of my problem is something i'm not able to consider.
Anyway, like the title say, everytime i flash a 4.4.2 based ROM, after the flash, my kindle get stucked on logo. Don't worry, thanks to the unbrick tool i'm able to restore it, but that's not the point.
Does anybody knows where's the problem? I precise that i've got the latest twrp version and that i've tried these two rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570078
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2624735
thanks in advance
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alberto1991lucca said:
Hi everybody.
First of all, i must be honest and tell you all that a lot of time is passed since the last time i've flashed a ROM on my kindle. I need to say this because probably the cause of my problem is something i'm not able to consider.
Anyway, like the title say, everytime i flash a 4.4.2 based ROM, after the flash, my kindle get stucked on logo. Don't worry, thanks to the unbrick tool i'm able to restore it, but that's not the point.
Does anybody knows where's the problem? I precise that i've got the latest twrp version and that i've tried these two rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570078
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2624735
thanks in advance
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A little more info would be great......
What version of fff are you using??
What version of TWRP recovery are you using??
Posting a logcat would be helpful also...
Let me know if you have any questions... Thx as always lj
The twrp version is the latest, which means the 2.6.3.1. It cames to me in automatic with the kindle fire utility tool.
For what regards the firefirefire's version, sorry man but i'm not able to help you. I think it's the latest also in this case because i've selected "install the latest version of firefirefire" in the kindle fire utility tool, but i don't know where i can check it.
For what concerns the logcat on booting i don't know how to do it because if i flash one of these ROM adb does not recognize the device.
alberto1991lucca said:
The twrp version is the latest, which means the 2.6.3.1. It cames to me in automatic with the kindle fire utility tool.
For what regards the firefirefire's version, sorry man but i'm not able to help you. I think it's the latest also in this case because i've selected "install the latest version of firefirefire" in the kindle fire utility tool, but i don't know where i can check it.
For what concerns the logcat on booting i don't know how to do it because if i flash one of these ROM adb does not recognize the device.
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Is it a yellow triangle? Or a blue kindle fire with 1.4 on the to right or something else?
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androvista said:
Is it a yellow triangle? Or a blue kindle fire with 1.4 on the to right or something else?
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None of these two. It displays the initial logos of the two roms.
Problems when installing cm11 on Kindle Fire (1st gen)
I have been running CM 10.2 for a long time and now wanting to upgrade to CM 11
I am doing a complete wipe with twrp -2.6.3.0 and mounting the kindle and copying over cm11 and gapps onto the wiped kindle and when I try to install CM11 in get a error and it will not install
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do I have to put the Kindle back to factory and reroot it and then try to install it
BTW I just installed CM10.2.1 and it installed perfectly
Gumby
Gumby_13 said:
I have been running CM 10.2 for a long time and now wanting to upgrade to CM 11
I am doing a complete wipe with twrp -2.6.3.0 and mounting the kindle and copying over cm11 and gapps onto the wiped kindle and when I try to install CM11 in get a error and it will not install
View attachment 2574470
do I have to put the Kindle back to factory and reroot it and then try to install it
BTW I just installed CM10.2.1 and it installed perfectly
Gumby
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You need TWRP 2.6.3.1 TO INSTALL CM11
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i'm such a noob.....
i didn't wipe the data before the flashing. now everything's working fine.
i'm sorry for have posted a thousand times answered question.
thanks to all
Updated to the latest twrp and CM11 installed perfectely:
:good::good::good::good:
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Hi all, as promised here is my utility for installing TWRP. Once you have TWRP you can flash anything you want, and can get permanent root.
This tool REQUIRES BurritoRoot which can be found: Click Here
Currently the tool does:
Resets ADB to root with BurritoRoot
Auto download and install TWRP Recovery + FireFireFire.
The Installer does come with the drivers incase they are needed.
Please note: If your device can't be seen in fastboot mode, please make sure to install the drivers packaged with this, as it will show up afterwards. You can use the install_drivers.bat with the device plugged in for this.
Usage should be straight forward for the tool. If you are having issues with something, please post.
I make no claim that this tool is perfect, but I certainly will do my best to support it as long as people like it.
Here are some screen-shots of it:
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Credits goto:
Root Work by Jcase @ Rootzwiki, gj man
Batch scripting Vashypooh @ Xda
TWRP / FireFireFire to TeamWin
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Please leave a message if this tool does not help you, malfunctions, or just to say thank you, or request more features!
Don't forget to donate to teamwin for their awesome recovery system over at: Team Win Website
Don't forget to donate to Jcase over at Rootzwiki for his awesome exploit!
Downloads:
Current Release
Version .1 = Click Here
Old Releases
Bug Fixes
Version .1 = Initial Release.
Known Tricks
If you end up stuck at the yellow triangle, in KF Utility select Boot Normal, wait for it to say and then press and hold the power button 20 seconds until the fire turns off, then when its off turn it back on. This sometimes happens, I have yet to find a clean solution
If I helped you out, please consider donating!
Need Live Help?
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Please visit there, and I may be able to help. I do work Swing shifts (4pm-midnight EST) so I may have some weird hours unless work schedule permits.
can it work in 6.2.1?
ygvuhb said:
can it work in 6.2.1?
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....look at screenshot and date of post.
Short answer: yes. it's supposed to work for 6.2.1.
Yep, waiting for jcase to post his root. Tested his software and helped some. Worked fine on 6.2.1.
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Good work guys.
Vashypooh said:
Yep, waiting for jcase to post his root. Tested his software and helped some. Worked fine on 6.2.1.
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will it break again, after update to new verison
ygvuhb said:
will it break again, after update to new verison
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id like to know that too????????
ygvuhb said:
will it break again, after update to new verison
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If you are running a version of Amazon's ROM then yes. Until someone pulls the update engine out of the ROM, and maintains the operation of Amazon's apps then this will continue to occur. If you would rather avoid the issue, flash cm7 or something other than Amazon's ROM.
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Yeah, I will be please to make a big donate when you post a link. Waiting for you...
The Root APK is posted on Rootzwiki now. I haven't tried it yet myself, but other have confirmed that it works.
BurritoRoot download and instruction here
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13027-universal-all-firmware-one-click-root-including-261/
Everything works, thanks jcase and Vashypooh, now my kf 6.2.1 is rooted and TWRP installed.
Cheers
the apk for burritoroot has been/is in the zip in the OP, for those of you waiting for no reason ;-)
finally, the fun continues!
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markcyst said:
the apk for burritoroot has been/is in the zip in the OP, for those of you waiting for no reason ;-)
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13027-universal-all-firmware-one-click-root-including-261/ the APK is posted elsewhere, my tool is not supposed to have that apk, I made a mistake in my testing of it and forgot to delete the APK.
This mistake has been corrected.
Sorry jcase.
where is "install_drivers.bat"
You can get it from KFU if you need it. I didn't include it as it is unreliable atm.
Stuck at yellow triangle screen that says press power button for recovery and your installer window looks like this:
I rebooted the device as well - no luck. Stuck at this window. Looks like bootmode is stuck?
Ideas?
same but
ajpatel said:
Stuck at yellow triangle screen that says press power button for recovery and your installer window looks like this:
I rebooted the device as well - no luck. Stuck at this window. Looks like bootmode is stuck?
Ideas?
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im at kindle fire boot screen (KINDLE FIRE 6.2.1)
update- hit the next button kindle reset but not root
update update- tried twice but no go (kindle fire ver 6.2.1_user_3103920)
Can I use this if if I did the SuperOneClick root method already (I'm not on 6.2.1)? I didn't use whatever BurritoRoot is, as I figured I'm already rooted, so...
markcyst said:
the apk for burritoroot has been/is in the zip in the OP, for those of you waiting for no reason ;-)
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Removed, that was inadvertently left in there, and was a test build.
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Stock+ Team is proud to present - Kindle Fire TunePack vol.1
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And here we are with our first Tune Pack with modifications to Kindle Fire Device!
After we saw a huge potential this little baby (kindle fire in this case) can do, we decided to add it to our MOD portfolio.
As for now we are actively working on Samsung Galaxy S (GT-I9000), Samsung Galaxy S 2 (GT-I9100) - search for us over xda-developers forum
Who we are?
We are group of modders/developers in love with android devices
Why?
Because we can't fight this addiction
[SIZE=+2]DOWNLOAD
++STOCKPLUS_TunePack_vol_1_BLAZE_6.2.1_user_3103920_1326318900.zip++[/SIZE]
If you think this mod is usefull to you, click "Thanks" and consider donation by clicking donate me button under my profile.
We need one more kindle fire device for our devs, so this donation will be good for community
IRC Channel:
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##stockplus <- yes, double ##
Changelog:
Initial release
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- Default launcher changed to Go Launcher Ex (no more kindle launcher after installing this pack)
- Google Apps installed by default
- Google Market installed by default
- Superuser Installed by default
- su included (yup, pack is rooted )
- UI HW Acceleration enabled
- Video Acceleration enabled
- WiFi scan interval modded (less frequent == less battery used)
- JPG quality pumped up
- Dalvik heap lowered
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Install instructions
- Install TWRP recovery using Kindle Fire Utility
- upload this zip to kindle fire
- boot into TWRP and DO BACKUP!
- install this pack
- wipe cache/dalvik cache
- reboot
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READ THIS!
[size=+1]ALWAYS DO BACKUP OF PRECIOUS DATA BEFORE FLASHING!! IM NOT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR DATA LOSS!
FLASHING THIS PACK/KERNEL/ROM MAY (OR NOT) CAUSE DATA LOSS (SMS, CONTACTS, SETTINGS , APPS) - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED![/size]
Will this work on CM7?
No, only on stock, but you may try to test it anyway
Can we still access the stock launcher? Im one of the few who like it for what I use it for...
MayfairDROID said:
Can we still access the stock launcher? Im one of the few who like it for what I use it for...
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No, with this mod you cant, but after flashing this mod you can still flash our debug enabled launcher:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21283556#post21283556
I liked this. Any chance you'll be doing a 6.2.2 version?
Sure, the pack will be updated to reflect new Kindle Fire Firmware
download link
The link is dead...just keeps loading for me, on Pc and kindle.
Im doing reupload, looks like multiupload deleted it :/
+1 for 6.2.2 please.
Thanks
Link updaed
I can't seem to download, the link shows up as:
"%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A/5ZBzf"
Link Fixed
Thanks mate
I got fed up of no flash support on ICS rom so i flashed my backup of original rom and installed this, its really slick and smooth, thanks.
So when can we expect the 6.2.2 update?
Sent from my phone.
I will try to release it tomorrrow or at monday, currently im moving my websites to new datacenter and it takes a time after that im all yours ;D
No rush. Thanks.
Sent from my phone.
I have experience with other Android devices, but this is my first time with a Kindle and I'm having a problem.
I installed TWRP recovery using the Kindle Fire Utility and after doing a Cache and Dalvik wipe I tried to install STOCKPLUS_TunePack_vol_1_BLAZE_6.2.1_user_3103920_ 1326318900.zip. The problem is that after the reboot the Kindle is freezed at the kindle fire logo.
It's a 6.2.2 Kindle and this TunePack is for 6.2.1 so that might be the problem. But how can I unblock the device now?
I still can turn it off/on and run TWRP, so I tried a Factory Reset, but it still stays at kindle fire after that.
Any hints? Thanks in advance!
This does not work on 6.2.2 yet. Have to reflash to stock.
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I recently decided to root and install a new rom on my kf .I'm pretty sure I rooted it through kindle fire utility as it looks like a tablet now I'm having trouble downloading a rom I'm thinking of this one .HellFire™KitKat can someone please help me out ?Thanks in advance .
Wiplash2001 said:
I recently decided to root and install a new rom on my kf .I'm pretty sure I rooted it through kindle fire utility as it looks like a tablet now I'm having trouble downloading a rom I'm thinking of this one .HellFire™KitKat can someone please help me out ?Thanks in advance .
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You are having trouble downloading or installing? If you're having trouble downloading, just try on a different computer.
If you're having trouble installing, you'll have to say more before anyone can help you.
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I tried to install a zip .I hit install and says error flashing zip.
Any kitkat rom requires twrp 2.6.3.1. Either upgrade twrp or just flash jellybean.
Is this ^^^ the problem? If so, download the newest TWRP, move it to the same folder as the other TWRP is in, in the kfu folder, rename it to recovery.zip or whatever TWRP ifs originally named, then remove the old one.
Launch kfu, and choose to install recovery. If that doesn't work, post back. Cheers, and good luck!
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ok im definitely stuck with whatever im doing wrong. rooted with Kindle fire utility 0.9.6 .I cant seem to download v 0.9.9. and im not sure how to download the zip all pages I go to are downloads for something else. I know im probably being a pain but im trying to do this .
or try
androvista said:
Extract the IMG file from the zip and put it on the sdcard. Download flashify (for root users) and use it to flash the IMG file
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Rather This:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50527135#post50527135
Lol both posts are mine
Try this, as I think that's what androvista was meaning to link to.
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and here's the link for KFU 0.9.9
Click on the download button that I circled.
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well im not sure what I did exactly I think I installed KFU 0.9.9. I then tried to install a rom I cant remember what one but kept getting an error so I rebooted it and got this alien looking face loading then it said cryomodd (Sp) I think something worked lo but I don't have any google apps now ?
really need to know which rom was flashed, file name is good.
gapps must match rom.
if it was cm 11, recovery must be updated first.
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[ROM][4.4.2][Official][CMB Roms cmb4.4.2][Kindle Fire][01/25/2014] im pretty sure this is the on since I tried to put it on it . I got an error flashing so I didn't think it did anything ..I re booted and got .cyanogenmod
cm-11-20140224-NIGHTLY-otter.zip is what I downloaded. I found a gapp for it I have goggle apps but I get an error that keyboard stopped working
Wiplash2001 said:
cm-11-20140224-NIGHTLY-otter.zip is what I downloaded. I cant find a gapps for it.
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1: you need TWRP 2.6.3.1 w/ SElinux support as stated before.
when you boot to recovery it will have version on top line, should be v2.6.3.1
2. Did you verify md5 check sum for rom, it's posted on roms download page for a reason
see Verify that your downloads are complete with MD5/SHA-1 Hash Checksums
3. KitKat Gapps are posted offical rom thread [ROM/KERNEL] OFFICIAL CM11.0 + 3.0.72 Kernel for Kindle Fire [NIGHTLIES]
and my page sd_shadow's [Collection] of Gapps:
use gapps-kk-20131119.zip
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Thanks for all the help. I finally officially rooted and installed my first rom .:good:
i proof these one, its really smooth
Ok, I got a kindle fire for my daughter a couple years back. I flashed a custom ROM onto it, and put a bunch of kid apps on it.
Well, we thought we lost it, and it turned up the other day after about a year.
I slapped it on the charger, and later that day booted it up. It works fine. It has a old ROM on it, and I'd prefer to try to get something close to 4.4 if there is one.
I'm also not 100% sure which version of the Kindle Fire this is. (Pretty sure its the original one, not a KF2, or KFHD)
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Ok, I got a kindle fire for my daughter a couple years back. I flashed a custom ROM onto it, and put a bunch of kid apps on it.
Well, we thought we lost it, and it turned up the other day after about a year.
I slapped it on the charger, and later that day booted it up. It works fine. It has a old ROM on it, and I'd prefer to try to get something close to 4.4 if there is one.
I'm also not 100% sure which version of the Kindle Fire this is. (Pretty sure its the original one, not a KF2, or KFHD)
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You have an Otter(1), which is the Kindle Fire(1)
There has been an Fork in the Development
OtterX Roms: require converting to the Otter X Project see my [How To][Video] Convert to OtterX ROM/TWRP/Bootloader [ROM 2014-05-08] and Hashcodes' thread OtterX ROM/TWRP/Bootloader [TWRP 2.7.1 2014-06-08]
Otter roms: use stock partitions (otter/blaze)
to upgrade to Android 4.4/KitKat/CM11 Otter Roms you need to upgrade TWRP to 2.6.3.0 or better newest is 2.8.0.1
Download zip-openrecovery-twrp-2.8.0.1-blaze.zip place on Kindles internal sd card, and install in whatever recovery is currently installed, reboot
then install a KitKat rom from [INDEX] Kindle Fire Development
Just dont just a rom with otterx in the name, many of the devs have dropped the stock otter, and just build otterX.
Official Cm11 or otter are here http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=otter and because of the smaller partition sizes of the Kindle use the PA Mini or Micro GApps the fulls Google Apps are 291MB now.
You sir, are made of awesome.
I'll get right on this.
Two questions. First, Does it matter that this says Blaze instead of Otter or OtterX?
sd_shadow said:
Download zip-openrecovery-twrp-2.8.0.1-blaze.zip place on Kindles internal sd card, and install in whatever recovery is currently installed, reboot
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Is there a KitKat rom for OtterX that feels exactly like KitKat on say, a Nexus 7? Also, do I HAVE to use the Mini GApps?
sd_shadow said:
then install a KitKat rom from [INDEX] Kindle Fire Development
Just dont just a rom with otterx in the name, many of the devs have dropped the stock otter, and just build otterX.
Official Cm11 or otter are here http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=otter and because of the smaller partition sizes of the Kindle use the PA Mini or Micro GApps the fulls Google Apps are 291MB now.
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S2005x said:
Two questions. First, Does it matter that this says Blaze instead of Otter or OtterX?
Is there a KitKat rom for OtterX that feels exactly like KitKat on say, a Nexus 7? Also, do I HAVE to use the Mini GApps?
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What says blaze
sd_shadow said:
What says blaze
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The zip you linked. Is blaze a different device?
S2005x said:
The zip you linked. Is blaze a different device?
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Amazon uses both otter and blaze codenames for the kindle fire 1
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Amazon uses both otter and blaze codenames for the kindle fire 1
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Ah, ok cool.
I got it working with the bootloader, and TWRP 2.7.1.0
I'm looking at Slimkat which had links to their own GApps. I think I'm going to install that one...
Haven't gotten the ROM installed yet because after the TWRP install, my PC no longer recognizes the device.
I've tried reboots etc, but right now, I just have a device with OtterX and TWRP on it... and nothing else.
S2005x said:
Haven't gotten the ROM installed yet because after the TWRP install, my PC no longer recognizes the device.
I've tried reboots etc, but right now, I just have a device with OtterX and TWRP on it... and nothing else.
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otterX is the new partition system, not a file
You mean otterX rom?
did you follow the convert to OtterX instruction?
could be drivers
open device manager, uninstall any drivers for the kindle fire, maybe listed as something else, and may need to disconnect it a couple of time to figure it out.
Download Kindle Fire Utility, extract files, run install.drivers.bat
after fighting with it for a while, I got it going.
It's booting into SlimKAT now
Thanks again for the help!
So i have been wasting 3 days trying to install clash of clans on kindle fire 1st generation by installing an android 4.4 or above rom. However my main problem is installing that wretched twrp. It never wants to easily install. I tried this video(sorry just joined cant post links its S.d shadows twrp and fff boot video) and this link(ill post a screen shot) to install cm12 or 11, but they keep talking about using fastboot to install twrp(i dont have fastboot cable so i had to use alternative methods). However when i follow the videos instructions i can never even push the fbmode and on the link i always get waiting on device. Please help i just want to play clash of clans with my friends.
help me
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So i have been wasting 3 days trying to install clash of clans on kindle fire 1st generation by installing an android 4.4 or above rom. However my main problem is installing that wretched twrp. It never wants to easily install. I tried this video(sorry just joined cant post links its S.d shadows twrp and fff boot video) and this link(ill post a screen shot) to install cm12 or 11, but they keep talking about using fastboot to install twrp(i dont have fastboot cable so i had to use alternative methods). However when i follow the videos instructions i can never even push the fbmode and on the link i always get waiting on device. Please help i just want to play clash of clans with my friends.
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plz help.
helpmeoutplz said:
So i have been wasting 3 days trying to install clash of clans on kindle fire 1st generation by installing an android 4.4 or above rom. However my main problem is installing that wretched twrp. It never wants to easily install. I tried this video(sorry just joined cant post links its S.d shadows twrp and fff boot video) and this link(ill post a screen shot) to install cm12 or 11, but they keep talking about using fastboot to install twrp(i dont have fastboot cable so i had to use alternative methods). However when i follow the videos instructions i can never even push the fbmode and on the link i always get waiting on device. Please help i just want to play clash of clans with my friends.
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Window 7? 8?
Install drivers from KFU?
In Device manager>select unknown device>Update driver software>
browse my computer for driver software>Let me pick from a list of Device Drivers on my computer>
show all(uncheck show only compatible)>look for ADB interface or android phone
select yes to Ignore warning
may need to reboot both.
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helpmeoutplz said:
So i have been wasting 3 days trying to install clash of clans on kindle fire 1st generation by installing an android 4.4 or above rom. However my main problem is installing that wretched twrp. It never wants to easily install. I tried this video(sorry just joined cant post links its S.d shadows twrp and fff boot video) and this link(ill post a screen shot) to install cm12 or 11, but they keep talking about using fastboot to install twrp(i dont have fastboot cable so i had to use alternative methods). However when i follow the videos instructions i can never even push the fbmode and on the link i always get waiting on device. Please help i just want to play clash of clans with my friends.
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sorry for not being more specific. I am on kindle fire 1st gen, using windows 8.1 with driver signature enfrocement currently off, and have update kfu files and have installed kfu.
didnt work
i got an error again.
helpmeoutplz said:
i got an error again.
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what system version is on kindle?
its 6.3.3
current version 6.3.3 @sd shadow
helpmeoutplz said:
current version 6.3.3 @sd shadow
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@sd_shadow plz help me
Try a win 7 PC?