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Hi XDA devs and lurkers!
I'm new to both the XDA forums and flashing Android although I've been a 'regular' Linux user since '96. I've owned Zaurii etc so I'm not scared of the terminal, compilation etc but I don't know much about Android and its various spin-off ROM/distros. I own a UK, unlocked Xperia Play r800i thats still running stock .42 which I had to factory reset over xmas as it was misbehaving and now its time to get it updated or switch ROM but I don't know if I'm best sticking with the latest stock or going with an alternate ROM?
I'm not really a gamer and the xperia pad is really just a novelty to me that I use to show off to gamers with although I think it'd be a shame if I could no longer use the pad and sneak the odd N64, PSX or MAME game in so I'd prefer that to work. What I do definitely need to work are the standard phone functions, the camera and GPS/sat nav. Apart from that I want stability, decent battery life and speed like everyone else. I was planning on sticking with GB and stock or maybe a custom stock unless there are real gains in stability or battery life to be had from updating to ICS or JB.
I've wasted a few days now trying to use SE's update service and PC companion under XP, 7 and OSX on different machines and with different USB chipsets and with different cables and it didn't work under any config! This is why I said I'd never buy another SONY product is it? Actually it was when they stole Linux from the PS3 users who took advantage of that feature, maybe even bought it especially for that but thats another story! Anyway, because of this I have not been able to download the latest stock ROM which my phone says is now up to .79 but I've read .84 is out now too?
Does anyone have a working link for a .79 (or .84) FTF file? I have only been able to find .42 and .62 stock FTFs after spending most of the day yesterday looking. Otherwise, maybe I'd be better off with a custom ROM? If so, which one and why? There are lists of r800 compat roms in both a couple of sticky threads in these XDA Xperia Play forums and on the XDA r800 wiki page but none of these lists include any notes or recommendations.
I'm hoping some kind soul will take pity on my Android n00b ass and spare me days or weeks of flashing roms and trawling these forums by answering as many of my questions as they can?
Thanks for your help!
Dan
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Hi XDA devs and lurkers!
I'm new to both the XDA forums and flashing Android although I've been a 'regular' Linux user since '96. I've owned Zaurii etc so I'm not scared of the terminal, compilation etc but I don't know much about Android and its various spin-off ROM/distros. I own a UK, unlocked Xperia Play r800i thats still running stock .42 which I had to factory reset over xmas as it was misbehaving and now its time to get it updated or switch ROM but I don't know if I'm best sticking with the latest stock or going with an alternate ROM?
I'm not really a gamer and the xperia pad is really just a novelty to me that I use to show off to gamers with although I think it'd be a shame if I could no longer use the pad and sneak the odd N64, PSX or MAME game in so I'd prefer that to work. What I do definitely need to work are the standard phone functions, the camera and GPS/sat nav. Apart from that I want stability, decent battery life and speed like everyone else. I was planning on sticking with GB and stock or maybe a custom stock unless there are real gains in stability or battery life to be had from updating to ICS or JB.
I've wasted a few days now trying to use SE's update service and PC companion under XP, 7 and OSX on different machines and with different USB chipsets and with different cables and it didn't work under any config! This is why I said I'd never buy another SONY product is it? Actually it was when they stole Linux from the PS3 users who took advantage of that feature, maybe even bought it especially for that but thats another story! Anyway, because of this I have not been able to download the latest stock ROM which my phone says is now up to .79 but I've read .84 is out now too?
Does anyone have a working link for a .79 (or .84) FTF file? I have only been able to find .42 and .62 stock FTFs after spending most of the day yesterday looking. Otherwise, maybe I'd be better off with a custom ROM? If so, which one and why? There are lists of r800 compat roms in both a couple of sticky threads in these XDA Xperia Play forums and on the XDA r800 wiki page but none of these lists include any notes or recommendations.
I'm hoping some kind soul will take pity on my Android n00b ass and spare me days or weeks of flashing roms and trawling these forums by answering as many of my questions as they can?
Thanks for your help!
Dan
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I dont have the ftf's but in your choice with ROMs, seen as u want something fast but still able to play emulators id recommend JB. ICS was ok probably CM9 & AOKP where the 2 ROMs I used. But you will need to flash farenheits touchpad fix.
Theres about 6 ROMs at the moment for JB. I use my own obviously which is PACman (mix of cm9, aokp,paranoid android and miui) but with the choice of multibooting I also have cm9 & AOKP in different slots which are accesible to boot through recovery at anytime. Also I added farenheiths touchoad fix into PACman source so no need to flash anything to fix it.
Choice is yours at the end of the day, but I find JB alot faster / smoother then ICS.
Sent from my GT-I9300 On Official JB
I use this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854682
Is the best ICS ROM that I ever try. But yes, JB is faster than ICS.
Thanks wedgess and nikiticos for your suggestions!
Last time I was looking into roms for my xperia the consensus seemed to be to avoid ICS or JB if you wanted a stable and fully working phone but it sounds like times have changed and its good to hear that my joypad should work under JB!
I like the sound of your rom wedgess so I hope to try that soon. I don't see any real reason to try any ICS roms but I'd still like some links to the latest stock ftfs and it'd be good to know what the best stock based rom is too as thats another thing I'd like to try. From these two responses though its sounding like there isn't much interest in GB roms any more?
pfmdan said:
Thanks wedgess and nikiticos for your suggestions!
Last time I was looking into roms for my xperia the consensus seemed to be to avoid ICS or JB if you wanted a stable and fully working phone but it sounds like times have changed and its good to hear that my joypad should work under JB!
I like the sound of your rom wedgess so I hope to try that soon. I don't see any real reason to try any ICS roms but I'd still like some links to the latest stock ftfs and it'd be good to know what the best stock based rom is too as thats another thing I'd like to try. From these two responses though its sounding like there isn't much interest in GB roms any more?
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Ye JB was very unstable back when it first came out. But I got camera working,CosmicDan got proximity sensors fixed and Farenheits touchpad fix so it all became better. Personally I stay away from ICS due to the fact of it been a RAM hogger. JB seems to deal with it alot better.
For both my own JB kernel and CosmicDans JB kernel you will need to flash the ftf in our kernel threads OP. Reason being they both use custom partitions which give 610mb in internal storage. In this ftf vendor partitions are unlocked. In other ftfs partitions are locked beside the r800x.
Id say try them out. Maybe take advantage of the multiboot feature which will alow u to boot between JB and ICS (cm9 based roms only). I havent used it personally but if I was to go back to ICS it would be either Sechkos port of ICS pureness or CosmicDans MIUI australia.
Sent from my GT-I9300 On Official JB
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Ye JB was very unstable back when it first came out. But I got camera working,CosmicDan got proximity sensors fixed and Farenheits touchpad fix so it all became better. Personally I stay away from ICS due to the fact of it been a RAM hogger. JB seems to deal with it alot better.
For both my own JB kernel and CosmicDans JB kernel you will need to flash the ftf in our kernel threads OP. Reason being they both use custom partitions which give 610mb in internal storage. In this ftf vendor partitions are unlocked. In other ftfs partitions are locked beside the r800x.
Id say try them out. Maybe take advantage of the multiboot feature which will alow u to boot between JB and ICS (cm9 based roms only). I havent used it personally but if I was to go back to ICS it would be either Sechkos port of ICS pureness or CosmicDans MIUI australia.
Sent from my GT-I9300 On Official JB
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Is for the stability that im not using JB. The Stock based ROM that I mention later is the best that you can get with ICS. I'm using it with Lupus Kernel and overclocked to 1.2 (min 460) and also I erase many stuff with Link2SD because there are many garbage you really don't need. And I've got a great experience with this ROM. Give a try if you want, I recommend it.
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Hi wedgess!
I'd like to have my first go at using flashtool tonight to flash your ROM but where do I download it?
This thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1628197
Doesn't even list JB roms such as yours.
You can find any of my work by clicking on my profile -> statistics -> Find all threads started by wedgess
But to make it easier for you
- PACman ROM v5 thread here
You will need to flash this stock ftf first to use the kernels as they have vendor unlocked partitions
Theres also a link in PAC thread to LuPuS-v7 kernel, if you want to read up a bit on multiboot(recommended) or there is this great guide by fma
Put the PAC-v5.zip onto sdcard. LuPuS-v7 is inside the PAC ROM's .zip just extract the kernel.img from the PAC-v5.zip and flash the kernel.img in flashtool via fastboot mode.
Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
wtr_dhd said:
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ?
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
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Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally, or even just recieving new updates to a current ROM.
sure dude why not.. if u root u can overclock and thus increasing your performance, rom selection is self choice related try every rom and kernel and stick to the one you love
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
WiredPirate said:
Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally. Or even just updates to those ROMs.
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What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
wtr_dhd said:
What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
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Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
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Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
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Ok thx, should try out CM then maybe, seems the most logical step too. I consciously didn't use the words "best rom" , as that's indeed each one to its own. Though, smoothness is imo an objective thing.
One of the best things about flashing a custom Rom and Kernel is the Fast Charge support! Pretty much if you just use a standard USB port on your PC it will charge as fast as a wall charger.
wtr_dhd said:
Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
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First question... Have you rebooted in awhile?
Second question... How many background tasks are constantly running.
Custom ROM/Kernel makes sense only if you go for a minimalistic ROM/fine-tuned kernel. Honestly, Stock ROM is fine, unless you need features missing. Or look for just straight optimized ROMs like RasBeanJelly Vanilla and others that are only trying to fix bugs and not add bloat.
Kernel, pick your flavor, but always go with 'stable' ones and not nightlies if you want to avoid issues.
For me, I do Stock ROM (or would consider RasBeanJelly Vanilla) at best, and Franco Kernel (though stock is good enough).
Another point... Key Lime Pie (v. 5.0) will be announced likely in a few weeks at Google I/O 2013. Why deal with unlocking the bootloader, flashing ROMS, and Kernels, then to have to wait for source code to be released to get the newest and latest?
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
Have you tried to wipe data?
You can try this first if you like stock. If you want to try a smooth custom rom I recommend you xylon + ak kernel.
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Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs, but you need to have stock kernel and no other system apps that are not apart of Google's stock Android. However, you wouldn't wait anyways for OTAs since you can just flash the updates that appear on XDA once they arrive. Either via fastboot or the custom recovery (if they work).
If you go to a custom ROM, you will not receive OTAs, (or shouldn't if the ROM was built right). You will have to wait for the ROM to be upgraded by the maintainer of it.
dude try something new other than stock..
CM 10.1 + ak diamond
governor = ondemand
stable,good speed..
give it a try
whitedragonz83 said:
I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs,
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I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
wtr_dhd said:
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus
bk201doesntexist said:
I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus
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Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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Again, if you alter system files the OTA will fail, if it needs to update those.
Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
I am using Purity with Leankernel. Gives me a smooth experience and great battery life.
Also it has the PIE and you can use XPosed framework to get Per App DPI with any ROM like I do.
But I have tried almost all the ROMS in the development section except for a couple maybe. I keep returning to Purity, Vanir and Cataclysm most of the time when I have something important come up and I cannt flash a new ROM every other day.
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Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
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The answer should be obvious... yes.
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Hi.I have successfully converted my phone to e975 from f180l and I want your opinion on flashing a kitkat rom(doesn't matter which one,I mean in general) People who are using a kitkat rom,is it better than the stock one?
or shall I wait until the official kitkat update from lg(official kdz I mean if that's gonna happen)?
its your choice if to upgrade or not.... stock rom or stock modded are best for battery life......if you bother about about battery life..you can flash any 4.4 roms.. ..
I vote yes. simply because i love trying something new. and having many choices are good.
then test all roms u can find
u can tly miui, my fav. but its 4.1 try!!
by kk u have many roms here! its ur play and our playground, so test what u can dont forget nandroid backup!
2nd Sky said:
then test all roms u can find
u can tly miui, my fav. but its 4.1 try!!
by kk u have many roms here! its ur play and our playground, so test what u can dont forget nandroid backup!
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I had another phone where I flashed a new rom every week and I don't want to keep doing so on this device I want to install a rom and keep it for a log period of time) forn now I like the stock one,but I know too that kk is lighter in terms of ram(if I'm not wrong) and it has more options and bigger customisation possibilities,but I don't want to meet new problems,like worse battery life,problems with the kernel,random fcs and so on)
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I had another phone where I flashed a new rom every week and I don't want to keep doing so on this device I want to install a rom and keep it for a log period of time) forn now I like the stock one,but I know too that kk is lighter in terms of ram(if I'm not wrong) and it has more options and bigger customisation possibilities,but I don't want to meet new problems,like worse battery life,problems with the kernel,random fcs and so on)
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Well atm I'm switching between cm11 and miui, it's nice to have two backups I can just switch between and I have my most needed stuff. For me this works just as Good as only having 1. But yeah, I don't like stock tom, and you can get good battery life with other 4.4 Roms, so dont worry about that. Go ahead and try it out, there's nothing to lose .
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Stock is still the best IMHO whenever I use CM something is always missing or broken.
But what do we actually get from 4.1 to 4.4(if stock)?? Whats the big difference for ordinary user?
Like Win XP vs Win 7 vs Win 8. Of course we have to update to Win 7 to take advantage of DX11 but I don't think we have to update to Win 8 for a reason that its NEW, Just like what happen to Kitkat its new but for what? Maybe thats the reason why LG doesnt bother much to update because most of the apps/games only require you to install 2.3 and up
I have recently installed kitkat 4.4 cm11 and and I am having force close problems (not many) but still it restarts the device and lockscreen becomes unresponsive
So yes it is problematic but it is way way better than stock in terms of RAM usage and response
I am searching for a stabler ROM if you have know such stable kk ROM do tell
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Hi everyone,
i have a xperia z1 compact phone and i'm a newbie in the world of custom rom, kernels, ecc..
A few days ago i flashed a new custom rom and the phone is working pretty well, but i have a question here..
Can i use a stock firmware (let's say original lollipop 5.1) with just a new kernel?
I was thinking about not installing a completely new rom but just a new kernel and the xposed installer to change something on this phone, is that possible?
If android releases a new version of android and i upgrade my version, do i have to reinstall the kernel? And some apps from sony's firmware are quite useless (at least for me), could i delete them just like a new rom? (ofc with root)
I just want a stock firmware with a new kernel that can use less battery possibly.. I don't need overclocking or stuff like that, just battery life i would say..
Sorry my bad english though and thank you all for your attention!
user1254 said:
Hi everyone,
i have a xperia z1 compact phone and i'm a newbie in the world of custom rom, kernels, ecc..
A few days ago i flashed a new custom rom and the phone is working pretty well, but i have a question here..
Can i use a stock firmware (let's say original lollipop 5.1) with just a new kernel?
I was thinking about not installing a completely new rom but just a new kernel and the xposed installer to change something on this phone, is that possible?
If android releases a new version of android and i upgrade my version, do i have to reinstall the kernel? And some apps from sony's firmware are quite useless (at least for me), could i delete them just like a new rom? (ofc with root)
I just want a stock firmware with a new kernel that can use less battery possibly.. I don't need overclocking or stuff like that, just battery life i would say..
Sorry my bad english though and thank you all for your attention!
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There are at least a couple of custom kernel options in this forum. Check ' development' and 'original development' threads. You can usually tell if they work for stock if they have either 'stock' or a build number, (e.g. 368), in the thread title. Otherwise they may be CM based, and won't work.
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There are at least a couple of custom kernel options in this forum. Check ' development' and 'original development' threads. You can usually tell if they work for stock if they have either 'stock' or a build number, (e.g. 368), in the thread title. Otherwise they may be CM based, and won't work.
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Thank you for your answer.
Is there much difference beetwen build numbers? (757,368,242,...) i searched on the net but i didn't find something really useful to let me understand the difference D:
user1254 said:
Thank you for your answer.
Is there much difference beetwen build numbers? (757,368,242,...) i searched on the net but i didn't find something really useful to let me understand the difference D:
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Android 5.1 on this phone is .368.
5.0 is .270 or .242
The others are KitKat, (either 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, or 4.4).
For the first - as always - be 120% sure that kernel you want to install is compatible with remaining system parts.
Base thing - stock to stock, non-stock to non-stock, but it is not everything.
Changes between versions them may be too big to play together.
You don't put any tires to any car. You need to know that dimensions fit.
Same here.
Dear folks,
a few months ago I brought my Nexus 5x and consigering that I was using my Samsung Galaxy S3 before a new world opened for me instantly. Now I have the Android version on my phone that is current right now actually. I have a clean user interface to interact with and the most satisfying point is that I am not forced to use my phone with such an amount of bloatware as it was the case with samsung.
In the past I used my GS3 only with custom roms like cynaogenmod (R.I.P.) because of this ugly and laggy touchwiz. With this way I was able to consume the new android versions aswell and profit from the pure stock android experience I newer was allowed to consume with samsungs software trash.
Now I owned my N5x and things changed. Now it is self-evident, that I can experience stock android. My device doesn't lag with any task anymmore and I got not too much unnecessary apps preinstalled. Well I rooted my device and finally got the best android experience since I use smartphones. No more wishes unfulfilled.
That got me thinking...
I really loved the fact, that I was able to flash any rom on my previous phone that I wanted to and I was not willing to use my phone without these. But now when I got my nexus I do not see the advantages of custom roms anymore.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get stock android.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get the newest android version. The opposite is even the case since the nexus devices get every update first.
Thank to the community behind the nexus series even the additional features of some custom roms aren't an argument anymore considering the fact, that most features came out as a flashable zip file for the stock roms or I use substratum or xposed (when it finally arrives in nougat :angel: ).
So I considered wether I should give lineage OS for the N5x a try or not and I do not see the point why I should flash it. I would not get anything in addition, that I miss now I guess.
So what du you think, guys? Are android custom roms still worth it? Why should I flash a custom rom? Why do you do it? Let me know in the comments.
If you are happy with stock, why change it??
I use custom ROM just for ease of theming. And some shuttle customisations.
Lineage OS does not include theming, so i won't go for it. If you want to experiment, try something with OMS7 theming baked in. My daily driver is ABC ROM.
I used the stock ROM for a very long time, and was very happy with it. In fact, switching to a custom ROM saw very little difference, esp in look/feel of the OS. You are absolutely right that the main reasons for a custom ROM are negated by the fact that we're running a stock android that gets updated very frequently.
That said, I will say that after using a custom ROM/kernel, I don't really want to go back to stock. I could if I need to, and would work fine, but there are a number of small things that I am using that I really like. I get MUCH better battery life on a rooted ROM with kernel. I can set up custom profiles for doing what I need to do, when I need to do it. Some of the Magisk camera modules for these are great, and recording video is much better (60fps with EIS). I also don't like having my /data encrypted, as I feel like it slows the phone down for no reason.
So yeah, stock is fantastic, but there are small things that do make it worth it.
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Dear folks,
a few months ago I brought my Nexus 5x and consigering that I was using my Samsung Galaxy S3 before a new world opened for me instantly. Now I have the Android version on my phone that is current right now actually. I have a clean user interface to interact with and the most satisfying point is that I am not forced to use my phone with such an amount of bloatware as it was the case with samsung.
In the past I used my GS3 only with custom roms like cynaogenmod (R.I.P.) because of this ugly and laggy touchwiz. With this way I was able to consume the new android versions aswell and profit from the pure stock android experience I newer was allowed to consume with samsungs software trash.
Now I owned my N5x and things changed. Now it is self-evident, that I can experience stock android. My device doesn't lag with any task anymmore and I got not too much unnecessary apps preinstalled. Well I rooted my device and finally got the best android experience since I use smartphones. No more wishes unfulfilled.
That got me thinking...
I really loved the fact, that I was able to flash any rom on my previous phone that I wanted to and I was not willing to use my phone without these. But now when I got my nexus I do not see the advantages of custom roms anymore.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get stock android.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get the newest android version. The opposite is even the case since the nexus devices get every update first.
Thank to the community behind the nexus series even the additional features of some custom roms aren't an argument anymore considering the fact, that most features came out as a flashable zip file for the stock roms or I use substratum or xposed (when it finally arrives in nougat :angel: ).
So I considered wether I should give lineage OS for the N5x a try or not and I do not see the point why I should flash it. I would not get anything in addition, that I miss now I guess.
So what du you think, guys? Are android custom roms still worth it? Why should I flash a custom rom? Why do you do it? Let me know in the comments.
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1st mate welcome to stock community of android, that happen when you buy a nexus(pixel now) , stock rom is perfect!! i change time to time roms, now i use stock/lockbooloader. there 2 reasons,well if you like more..... the are 2 tipes of ppl...
lets start form the basic.
1) why you pick a nexus? the most classic answer to this is.... cose i like the stock experience(true that is great) and cose is the only devices that take 1st and fastest updates for 2 years(true that too )
2) and now comes the question. sould i root my nexus? and why i do this, the phone feels great, is fast and not lag at all.
the answer to this is cose with an unlockbootloader a new world opens to custom roms,kernels,mods/apks/themes. yes the icons and feels is more or less the same... but is not the same 100%!!
so in your case think what realy you want from a custom rom before you unlock the bootloader, the reason that some times i root my nexus is 3....1)cose i like to have a tone of customaze in settings/nav bars/themes etc 2) i like the daily or weekly updates God i love the icon in notification bar when i see it LOL.. 2)and finally some better battery life with a custom kernel!!
so next time think what you want from a custom rom!!
i have test a lot of them!!
if you like customized settings etc LOS(lineage os) is not good! los is stable/daily rom with daily updates/support with some extras in settings but not big deal, is close to stock when it comes to customized!!
full customazed roms and good for daily use is DIRTY UNICORNS D.U // RESURACTION REMIX A.K.A RR // TESLA,VALIDUS ROMS // BLISS ROM // AND OFC PURE NEXUS P.N
but other roms like android ice cold project a.k.a A.I.C.P and Mokee rom is good fast or daily support updates.
p.s sry for my bad english!! i hope to help you!
crazyates said:
I used the stock ROM for a very long time, and was very happy with it. In fact, switching to a custom ROM saw very little difference, esp in look/feel of the OS. You are absolutely right that the main reasons for a custom ROM are negated by the fact that we're running a stock android that gets updated very frequently.
That said, I will say that after using a custom ROM/kernel, I don't really want to go back to stock. I could if I need to, and would work fine, but there are a number of small things that I am using that I really like. I get MUCH better battery life on a rooted ROM with kernel. I can set up custom profiles for doing what I need to do, when I need to do it. Some of the Magisk camera modules for these are great, and recording video is much better (60fps with EIS). I also don't like having my /data encrypted, as I feel like it slows the phone down for no reason.
So yeah, stock is fantastic, but there are small things that do make it worth it.
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You cant use custom kernel on stock rom? or mods like the 60 fps recording? I thought you could
I always use custom roms because of the personalization. Not themes but features, some of them are great. Also updating is so easy just download zip and flash from recovery.
Stock rom OTAs encrypt data and install stock recovery and I dont like that, also It is said custom roms are smoother. I still have to try pixel rom though, which is based on stock rom
I wrote this question for my pixel last week. It's probably bc I've been flashing for a long time but it's nice when things work correctly which sometimes doesn't happen with custom ROMs. For me I've been happy with stock but with a custom kernel and root. I still use root and a customer kernel cleans up the performance but stock rom is good for me.
Javi22 said:
You cant use custom kernel on stock rom? or mods like the 60 fps recording? I thought you could
I always use custom roms because of the personalization. Not themes but features, some of them are great. Also updating is so easy just download zip and flash from recovery.
Stock rom OTAs encrypt data and install stock recovery and I dont like that, also It is said custom roms are smoother. I still have to try pixel rom though, which is based on stock rom
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I think you mis-read what I meant earlier, or (more probably) I wasn't clear. When I meant "stock", I meant 100% stock, meaning stock ROM, stock kernel, locked bootloader, no root, etc.
If you used a stock ROM with a custom kernel and Magisk, you could get a lot of those same things, I'm sure. There are still small reasons why I like Pure Nexus ROM, tho, like the battery bar tweaks (removing the icon and having a thin bar on the top), night mode, the Pixel launcher, etc. Plus, I don't have to have the FULL gapps suite, I can only have what I want installed.
crazyates said:
I think you mis-read what I meant earlier, or (more probably) I wasn't clear. When I meant "stock", I meant 100% stock, meaning stock ROM, stock kernel, locked bootloader, no root, etc.
If you used a stock ROM with a custom kernel and Magisk, you could get a lot of those same things, I'm sure. There are still small reasons why I like Pure Nexus ROM, tho, like the battery bar tweaks (removing the icon and having a thin bar on the top), night mode, the Pixel launcher, etc. Plus, I don't have to have the FULL gapps suite, I can only have what I want installed.
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Ok ok then, I understand now haha, I might miss read no problem
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Coming from flashing ROMs and kernels on an HTC EVO, Galaxy S2, S3, and S5, it was nice to finally be on stock and not feel the need to do it anymore. I was going to after a few months but updates really improved the experience for me compared to it's original release.
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I won't buy a phone that doesn't have the ability to run custom roms. Particularly, CM / Lineage. So for example, the Pixel is out.
1. I get to choose what starts up with during boot up.
2. I get to stop unnecessary apps from running in the background. Guess what I don't want an app running if I don't have it open. Turns out my wife doesn't either for most of her apps. Do you need apps chew through mobile data or tracking your every move even though you don't have them open?
3. I block many apps from data / wifi entirely. They can't load junk like ads, phone home etc.
4. I easily block various applications from my data, as needed. A game does not need access to my contacts, etc.
5. There is still a lot of customization that can be done in the custom roms in regards to layout and such that is not in stock roms.
I realize that some of those things can be done in the stock ROM once you are rooted, or there are work around ways to do sort of do these in other ways without root, however many those are just some of the things I can list off the top of my head that you can only sort of do or only partially do in stock form.
(It's been a long time since I've run a stock ROM, so let me know if it's changed, I could be off base?)
We're not talking kernels, but once you starting tweaking the kernel, plus keep all the crap from running in the background you can get decent battery life out of this phone.