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To root or not to root

That is the question
I wasnt going to root my phone but while playing with phone and seeing Ads come up and cant install adfree worth rooting for this alone .Ok back to the pc hope I find a good roooting method
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I have decided to hold back on root at the moment due to the flash counter and OTA break issue.
Its killing me though to have to live with such high lcd density atm
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i'm holding off as well...
waiting to see what sort of custom roms appear in the coming weeks before i decide what to do with it...
aside from Titanium Backup, i don't really use a lot of root packages... changing the DPI would be nice, but i can live with it for the moment until the devs get coding
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I'm holding off for now too, I really like having this phone stock at the moment but if Google wallet comes out for root then I will.

One idea if you afraid from raising flash counter.
Flash pre rooted rom
Use mobile odin to flash stock rom.
This won't raise flash counter.
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dr.ketan said:
One idea if you afraid from raising flash counter.
Flash pre rooted rom
Use mobile odin to flash stock rom.
This won't raise flash counter.
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What happens when the flash counter rises?
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Warranty will be voids.
Though soon triangle away application will get support for note2, then it can be reset.
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Just looked your sign
PS : any special reason for asking? As you have already used sgs3,note and difficult to believe you don't know it.
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dr.ketan said:
Warranty will be voids.
Though soon triangle away application will get support for note2, then it can be reset.
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Just looked your sign
PS : any special reason for asking? As you have already used sgs3,note and difficult to believe you don't know it.
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I really do not. I buy unlocked phone and import it in the US where the warranty isnt valid anyway.....
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Ok.
Then you have never need to worry about that. I can say you are lucky, flash anything with pc odin.
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dr.ketan said:
Warranty will be voids.
Though soon triangle away application will get support for note2, then it can be reset.
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Just looked your sign
PS : any special reason for asking? As you have already used sgs3,note and difficult to believe you don't know it.
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Any ideas if the break OTA problems can be fixed that comes with rooting?
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I don't think it can be fixed as recovery is custom.
But let's hope it can get fixed.
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dr.ketan said:
Ok.
Then you have never need to worry about that. I can say you are lucky, flash anything with pc odin.
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Awesome thanks for the info!
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DMax99 said:
Any ideas if the break OTA problems can be fixed that comes with rooting?
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You need to choose what you want:
1. Have root and forget about OTA`s and Kies and use CWM and PC/Mobile Odin or
2. Stay on stock firmware and forget about root all together.
You can`t have it both ways mate
You will never be able to install OTA`s if you are rooted as you have a custom recovery.

ok still some what a new bee im looking to get note 2 unlock and run it on att..i have a gs3 on att..
i like rooting to get rid of my crap ware on att..but unlock is nice pure TW and i like it..so if i root and theres a update do i just flash the new update ? coming from a rooted stock TW?
thanks

ROOT!
Then u can clean bloatware, like gmaps, g+, ChatOn etc.

Hi Ketan, i have a question for you, i want to install the rooted rom but before doing that i would want to take the nandroid backup of the stock rom. Can you please give me step by step guide as to how i should go ahead wih it . Thanks and await your reply.

Without root you can't do nandroid backup.

Is there still away to root or install custo m rom without raising counter and without doing full wipe as I have good set up now thx Dr
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stesteste said:
Is there still away to root or install custo m rom without raising counter and without doing full wipe as I have good set up now thx Dr
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Here you can download a pre-rooted stock rom`s without raising the binary counter http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1915386. Read the OP well as there are different rom`s to download.

Will it do full wipe or not thx
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New gs3 user rooting this phone for first time

Hey guys, and so you know, I have rooted my vibrant, but i just have a few questions i could not find the answer to,weirdly
1. Factory unlock needed? Is there a different root procedure ( wouldnt be suprised)
2. The possibility of hardbricking, high or low.
3. Can I restore a backup of a different version of android if possible, and do i just need to wipe cache etc to flash the same version of android.
Thanks in advanced and sorry if this is noobish, just dont really have a lot of time due to school.
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iKoolkid said:
Hey guys, and so you know, I have rooted my vibrant, but i just have a few questions i could not find the answer to,weirdly
1. Factory unlock needed? Is there a different root procedure ( wouldnt be suprised)
2. The possibility of hardbricking, high or low.
3. Can I restore a backup of a different version of android if possible, and do i just need to wipe cache etc to flash the same version of android.
Thanks in advanced and sorry if this is noobish, just dont really have a lot of time due to school.
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1. Factory unlock...? The easiest way (at least for me) was using Odin to inject root into stock ROM.
2. As with any tinkering/modding with any Android device, there is always a risk of hard bricking, but if you follow the procedures carefully, you shouldn't run into any issues.
3. Not sure what you really mean, but as i always say, it's always best to flash fresh (full wipe)
hope this helps, good luck!

1) unlock not needed but if you want u can do it for free; check general section
2) less possibility of hard bricking unless u flash rom for different phone ; dont forget to backup imei number ; high possibility of loosing it.
3) restore from diffwrent version highly not recommend if you want bug free phone.

And that is how you turn you're soon to be rooted phone into a rocket ship with fireworks coming out of it!
With rainbow sprinkles!
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And also, i want confirm because my friend said clockwork will be wiped after first reboot after using, is this true? Or does is stay for as long as you wish.
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Umm, the clockwork recovery? It stays forever.
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Hey man. Welcome over to this side of the fence.
The Recovery gets saved into the recovery partition and will stay until you switch it out with another (TWRP) or stock. So that is a non-issue.
Being a fellow ex-Vibe user, I understand your questions. Same as the Vibrant you can flash/restore laterally and not have any issues as long as you wipe, reset, usual stuff. But also same as the Vibrant, you should not go from ICS to JB or JB 4.2 and back without a clean install (can always upgrade but going back is where issues come into play). And by clean install I mean Odin to reset the proper partitions. That is another thing. You should probably update your Odin. There is a thread around here with it or just get your Google on.
If you are on stock TWiz, you can use (your recently updated) Odin to flash mrRobinson's Root66 and it will be stock ROM but with Root. Way easier than the Update.zip scene we had on the Vibrant.
Another thing is that the internal is set up differently. The internal is set up as a /data/media partition. This means that if you Factory Reset with the Stock recovery, you will effectively wipe your whole internal SD. However, if you use CWR or TWRP, they won't wipe your internal SD unless you Format Data. I learned that the hard way on my tablet about a year ago.
Good luck
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iKoolkid said:
And also, i want confirm because my friend said clockwork will be wiped after first reboot after using, is this true? Or does is stay for as long as you wish.
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clockwork will stay forever unless you ODIN back to stock, which will replace clockwork with the stock recovery

WOODY! Glad to see you here. I missed your advice. Anyway, thanks for everything and i may root soon.
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Im also new looking to root, will rooting wipe everything in my internal? pix, vids, songs, sms etc? Sorry not exactly clear on the root process for this phone, also had vibrant (easiest way to root ever) and sensation (not hard either). But this is kind of confusing like I have to flash a fw thru odin that already has root?

aamir123 said:
Im also new looking to root, will rooting wipe everything in my internal? pix, vids, songs, sms etc? Sorry not exactly clear on the root process for this phone, also had vibrant (easiest way to root ever) and sensation (not hard either). But this is kind of confusing like I have to flash a fw thru odin that already has root?
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Its not the only way to root it, but if you do it that way you won't lose things in your SD anyway, only your data like apps and stuff.. An easier way is to just flash clockwork mod and flash superuser which will give you root, it will however trip your flash counter.. I've done it both ways
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serio22 said:
Its not the only way to root it, but if you do it that way you won't lose things in your SD anyway, only your data like apps and stuff.. An easier way is to just flash clockwork mod and flash superuser which will give you root, it will however trip your flash counter.. I've done it both ways
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will flashing cwm recovery then su then using triangleaway to reset meter be good? As in my counter will be back to where it is right now?

aamir123 said:
will flashing cwm recovery then su then using triangleaway to reset meter be good? As in my counter will be back to where it is right now?
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Technically yes, but if you go that route I would stay away from resetting it unless you really need to
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Btw with this counter does the number go up every time you flash a rom?
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daxecutioner24 said:
Btw with this counter does the number go up every time you flash a rom?
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Yes
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daxecutioner24 said:
Btw with this counter does the number go up every time you flash a rom?
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LoopDoGG79 said:
Yes
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No it does not
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Need to get back to stock 100%, may have softbricked?

Hello,
I've been doing the runarounds all day with my Note II. I've been around the block a few times so I'm comfortable using ADB/Odin and the like. I have the pro version of the Note II toolkit.
I'll spare all of the details, but for now I'm able to get a booted ROM, custom or stock recovery. In TWRP, i get a message "E:Unable to mount '/preload'
Is this something I can ignore? Or do I need to get a good Odin & PIT file (I have one) and reflash/repartition my device?
Thanks

Ignore twrp does not have proper mount point for preload. Does not affect anything.
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jlmancuso said:
Ignore twrp does not have proper mount point for preload. Does not affect anything.
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Perfect, that's what I suspected, but I'm trying to start from vanilla scratch ATM.
Thanks for your prompt reply =]

Vanilla stock? Guesding from your title that would be touchwiz 4.1.2 unrooted stock recovery. I use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36388145. After flashing a few wierd things will happen but this is normal. Once it boots up you will have 100% stock mc2 phone just like it was new. Hope it helps.
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Vanilla stock? Guesding from your title that would be touchwiz 4.1.2 unrooted stock recovery. I use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36388145. After flashing a few wierd things will happen but this is normal. Once it boots up you will have 100% stock mc2 phone just like it was new. Hope it helps.
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Yes I frequently use that as well =]
I just had a bundle of very strange things happen today while flashing the MK4 update from platty. My Play store disappeared, literally poofed, not installed, and that started a long string of "first-timers". I decided to just go back to the beginning instead of trying to fix whatever happened. In the process I softbricked, but I'm up and running again.
Thanks for your help.

[Q]Downgrade to 4.1.2?

Hi is there anyway to down grade from 4.3 back to 4.1.2? my phone is not rooted just stock OTA 4.3. Have problems want to go back. If anyone can point me in the right direction would be appreciated!:good:
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Ind3lible said:
Hi is there anyway to down grade from 4.3 back to 4.1.2? my phone is not rooted just stock OTA 4.3. Have problems want to go back. If anyone can point me in the right direction would be appreciated!:good:
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Well, as far as I know you would have to root your device, you can look in the development thread for lorjay, he made a 4.3 rom, after you follow his directions for "coming from ota with Knox" then you can go here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086769, & follow the op to restore back to stock mc2. Only way I know of, hope this helps.
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I will take a look thank you!!
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aheeejd said:
Well, as far as I know you would have to root your device, you can look in the development thread for lorjay, he made a 4.3 rom, after you follow his directions for "coming from ota with Knox" then you can go here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086769, & follow the op to restore back to stock mc2. Only way I know of, hope this helps.
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You don't need to root to downgrade.
1. Install custom recovery through Odin but do not check the reboot option.
2. Pull battery and disconnect from PC.
3. This is the hard part. Press and hold vol+, menu, and power while inserting the battery.
4. In recovery flash stock mc2 with counter reset. Also if you want root flash that also.
5. Now you have are on full mc2 ( baseband, radio, bootloader, ROM, and kernel)
This is a tried and proven method of downgrade for those with and without root.
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jlmancuso said:
You don't need to root to downgrade.
1. Install custom recovery through Odin but do not check the reboot option.
2. Pull battery and disconnect from PC.
3. This is the hard part. Press and hold vol+, menu, and power while inserting the battery.
4. In recovery flash stock mc2 with counter reset. Also if you want root flash that also.
5. Now you have are on full mc2 ( baseband, radio, bootloader, ROM, and kernel)
This is a tried and proven method of downgrade for those with and without root.
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When you say flash MC2 with counter reset that is from this thread right? : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086769 Just want to make sure! Thank you and also what recovery do you suggest? I do not need root neither just want to go back to 4.1.2 . If you can point me to the recovery I wish I had learned this when the phone first came out it makes it harder to learn as times goes on . Thank you!

Yes that is the one I was referring to. Any recovery should be fine.
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jlmancuso said:
Yes that is the one I was referring to. Any recovery should be fine.
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Ok and will clockwork mod custom recovery work? even if I am on 4.3 any custom recovery will work?
Thanks,!!

All 3 major recoveries (twrp, cwmr, philz) will work to flash the downgrade
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All 3 major recoveries (twrp, cwmr, philz) will work to flash the downgrade
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One last question can i just download the 4.1.2 for sprint's note 2 and flash it in odin? That method seems the simplest but not sure if possible on note 2. I see it working on the S3. Thank you!

You can try but it won't work. The only way to do it is follow the directions I gave you. If there was an easier way I would have told you.
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Np hot spot in settings on 4.3 stock

I have no hotspot in settings on stock unrooted 4.3. Tried rooting and custom rom that has hacked hit spot but still nothing. . Any help would be great. Thanks

supertwin33 said:
I have no hotspot in settings on stock unrooted 4.3. Tried rooting and custom rom that has hacked hit spot but still nothing. . Any help would be great. Thanks
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Which rooted ROM did you flash?

4.3 deodexed.. dint think it was the before root but not sure..no setting for native hotspot in connection. Installed portable hotspot app which just turns on and gives an error. Thanks for replying
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supertwin33 said:
I have no hotspot in settings on stock unrooted 4.3. Tried rooting and custom rom that has hacked hit spot but still nothing. . Any help would be great. Thanks
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Try following these steps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50335424 to wipe your phone then install a custom mk4 rom.
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Took back to mc2 stock unroot.. Then root and install stock deodex 4.3 root.. Still giving error. Mobile hot spot unsupported
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supertwin33 said:
Took back to mc2 stock unroot.. Then root and install stock deodex 4.3 root.. Still giving error. Mobile hot spot unsupported
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Mobile hotspot does not work on stock 4.3 deodexed roms without flashing the hotspot hack. You will need to find and flash the correct version hotspot hack for your rom. Ex. MA7, MC2, MK4, etc.
Do this: Flash Phil's recovery 6.0.7.9, wipe everthing, flash rom of choice (I recommend LorJay's stock deodexed MK4 without Note 3 features), upon first boot you may need to Odin flash the WiFi fix (from your PC only), then boot into recovery and flash the MK4 hotspot hack, reboot and setup phone, Success.
If for some strange reason you still get that error message when turning on mobile hotspot, I'd flash a custom AOSP ROM such as Slim ROM, Carbon ROM, etc. Those Roms have hotspot fully functioning right out of the box. Keep us posted.

Still no good. Thanks for suggestion tho. . Haven't tried asop but not a Fan. Any suggestions on wiping or formatting(how to) the internal part of phone to go from scratch.
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Here you go. I recommend the Odin method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086769
It seems as if Sprint has done something to your phone because everything you have dine should have worked. Something isn't right. That's why I suggested trying an AOSP ROM for the time being just to test this theory. Then you can flash back to stock or whatever you choose. You could also flash a custom Touch Wiz rom that has hotspot already working. If that fails you definitely got a phone that's been altered somehow by Sprint. I've yet to ever see this but I'm sure its very possible. Just my opinion.

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Still no good. Thanks for suggestion tho. . Haven't tried asop but not a Fan. Any suggestions on wiping or formatting(how to) the internal part of phone to go from scratch.
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Here are wiping instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50335424
You dont need to do the go back to stock part.
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I think sprint had modified it..I need to totaly wipe..I have factory reset unroot. Even use superwipe but some how when turn phone back on it had rememebered wallpaper and owner name ect...want to total wipe
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The phone is brand new from sprint less than week old
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