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Has anyone tried returning the phone after rooting it? How about after flashing a different ROM? Any differences before the 30 days and after as far as the same questions above go?
I'm curious before I decide to root my phone.
Thanks!
You can just run the stock RUU to go back to the shipped rom. Check the wiki if you need it.
damn this question has been asked alot
I'm more interested in if you can't flash it back to stock Ruu. For example if you have an issue and need to return it or send it in for warranty repair and switching back to stock isn't possible.
bigdogdan2 said:
I'm more interested in if you can't flash it back to stock Ruu. For example if you have an issue and need to return it or send it in for warranty repair and switching back to stock isn't possible.
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By rooting you have voided your warranty. So no, if you root and leave it rooted then your warranty is void. I just restored my rooted phone to factory so I can return it due to the screen separation issue.
if the unit powers on you can RUU, else you cant. if sprint/radioshack whomeever cant power the unit on and you've not opened it or water damaged it, then it should be fine to replace. they arent going to hunt you down, at least i dont think they will.
yeah my evo was in a boot loop while rooted, with damagecontrol 3.2 rom, and a new radio update and i got a new one, within the 30 days of course. but i learned my lesson and bought a security plan XD
everyones still within the 30 days
Last week I was in the BB I bought my phone from, trying to get a replacement for a few issues. When the rep walked away I took a peek at his monitor, as he was searching for any memos on the issues i had.
He had one email open that pertained to Rooted devices and how to test if the device was rooted or not, and instructions on NOT to accept any returns if the device was rooted considering it does void the warranty and changes the original item itself.
Just a heads up lol.
That's kinda dumb. Rooting is just software change it's not any change to the hardware itself, it should be fine to return.
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That's kinda dumb. Rooting is just software change it's not any change to the hardware itself, it should be fine to return.
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But rooting can also brick your phone if you do it wrong.
Yes, but if you get it back to stock RUU then any such risk has been neutralized.
So i havent rooted yet (so many reasons to root god dammit!) but i also want to keep the warranty or at least for hardware issues, that my arise during my warranty period. I dont plan on installing roms mostly just rooting stock for some root features that i like. let's say i ran into an issue, can i unroot and restore my warranty?
Loodakid said:
So i havent rooted yet (so many reasons to root god dammit!) but i also want to keep the warranty or at least for hardware issues, that my arise during my warranty period. I dont plan on installing roms mostly just rooting stock for some root features that i like. let's say i ran into an issue, can i unroot and restore my warranty?
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You can unroot and relock the bootloader, but it will always show that it has previously been unlocked. It's then really up to HTC what they do should you claim under warranty (in theory they should still cover hardware faults, but there have been threads from users who've still been charged because they'd flashed other ROMs, so I wouldn't say it's guaranteed).
ahh ok, well i'll bump this to get more opinions on the matter but still Thanks
hopscotchjunkie said:
You can unroot and relock the bootloader, but it will always show that it has previously been unlocked. It's then really up to HTC what they do should you claim under warranty (in theory they should still cover hardware faults, but there have been threads from users who've still been charged because they'd flashed other ROMs, so I wouldn't say it's guaranteed).
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I believe if your phone goes back with "illegal" software they will replace your motherboard and what ever else and charge you but if its relocked all stock and the fault was without doubt not.caused by the user warranty should remain.
Interesting how they refer to custom firmware as illegal.
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what about flashing other roms, then when returning, flashing stock rom and relocking?
I saw a similar question on this but is my warranty really voided if I rooted my sprint galaxy s3 and I could get it back by going back to 100% stock? I rooted it shortly after getting this phone. This morning I went into download mode and saw the flash count 1 and 2 lines say custom and go into about device and it says modified.
There are ways to reset those. Search qbking77 on youtube.
As far as warranty, no they will charge you your deductible for a new/refurb phone. But a Sprint store can refuse to honor their TEP program and work on a rooted device.
And that's because after a tech fixes w/e is wrong, you walk out the door and it bricks because you flash something your not suppose to. They don't want the blame to fall back on them.
Sent from a planet far far away.
Kenny301 said:
I saw a similar question on this but is my warranty really voided if I rooted my sprint galaxy s3 and I could get it back by going back to 100% stock? I rooted it shortly after getting this phone. This morning I went into download mode and saw the flash count 1 and 2 lines say custom and go into about device and it says modified.
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You can always go back to stock and triangle-away the flash counter. I'd recommend using the Toolkit by mskip. It has the option of returning to stock unrooted and getting rid of the flash count.
As far as your primary question about warranty. Yes, your warranty is voided. That being said, I've never really heard of it being an issue. Most Sprint Tech's are pretty chill when it comes to this. You can, of course, get an uptight one who will complain and even refuse your return. But yeah, I haven't really heard of that happening too often.
Usually all carriers would check the flash tick and they'd tell you that you can not have a warranty for your phone.
But it's other times that you'd be really lucky to obtain one for your device if they won't look into it ( And they will )
and they'll look at the status of the device as well. If you want to fully go back to stock TW and get your warranty
it'd be advised to flash this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904099
Thank billar412 for that.
Take note this is the MB1 update, if you how ever don't like MB1 there should be an LJ7 in the forums somewhere
or just look up qbking77 guide to unroot for stock TW and he should also have a flash counter reset under his threads as well.
Thanks for the quick replies. So that quick return to stock one would bring back the warranty then? That's the one I got my eye on plus I'm craving some custom rom goodness.
Kenny301 said:
Thanks for the quick replies. So that quick return to stock one would bring back the warranty then? That's the one I got my eye on plus I'm craving some custom rom goodness.
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I don't want to be the legalistic guy, but I wanted to point out something.
By flashing a custom recovery (i.e. gaining root access), you are voiding your claim on the warranty. There's no getting around that. But, by returning to stock and resetting your flash counter, you are making it so that no one can tell you voided the warranty.
I know it's a slight difference from what you said and many people may say I'm nit-picking, but I want people to take responsibility for flashing ROMs. It bugs me when people don't read everything, brick their phones, then try to get the carrier to pay for their mistakes (case in point).
Hey -
my question is in a similar vein.
I am "stock" but rooted and with CWM recovery.
I'm getting bugged to death with the OTA update notifications, and of course it won't run under CWM...
Best method to get it to install seems to be to restore factory recovery?
Or do you guys have other suggestions?
Bigjohn_S said:
Hey -
my question is in a similar vein.
I am "stock" but rooted and with CWM recovery.
I'm getting bugged to death with the OTA update notifications, and of course it won't run under CWM...
Best method to get it to install seems to be to restore factory recovery?
Or do you guys have other suggestions?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32152586
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You never mentioned where you got your phone. I buy mine at Best Buy, and purchase their insurance. It covers EVERYTHING except loss. No deductible. No limit on number of claims. I was flashing my GS3 back and forth between a few roms, and somehow messed it up. It was stuck in a boot loop. They couldn't get it to boot either. They sent it out, and I had a new one 4 days later. Only new because they had just come out, and didn't have refurbs yet
**Feed on your nothing,
You'll never live up to me**
Hi guys,
I have samsung note 2 N7100
Android version 4.1.2
I am just looking around and I see loads of stuff about rooting, I came from Apple iPhones coz they are **** now lol and i have jailbroken all my devices. Had my note 2 for few months now but I am worried if i root it I will loose my warranty and might mess up my phone....
I seen the tutorials and it looks really easy but lets say down the line I want to un-root my device, could I leave no trace of the device being rooted?
I had to replace my old note 2 and it was rooted i managed to un root it but the benefit was that I work in the phone shop and I replaced it.
SHOULD I ROOT THE DEVICE?
WHAT BENEFITS WILL I GET?
Cheers guy
p.s. love the community here!
Hi,
Even without root, the Note 2 is still beast.
But with all these customizations, tweaks, improvement going on in the development threads, it's a GO.
Plus, you can unroot easily anytime you have a computer.
Cheers!
First of all! Welcome to the family
Well here's what! Rooting your device is basically allowing your phone to run apps and do special operations that it cannot normally do and also flash custom roms. If anyone else can help with a reply that will be awesome. Just go through the step by step process in either this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696 or this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923956.
For more understanding, watch videos on youtube on the terms: rooting, custom Rom and custom recovery. If anyone can help it would be appreciated!
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here is a good tutorial to root without changing your counter ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1930418
Don't be a puss and root. May the force be with u....
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You have nothing to loose but more to gain
Well it's upto you. You'd get a HELL lot more of options with a rooted devices than unrooted. Personally, I find absolutely no reason not to root, and it would be such a waste to not unlock the full potential of this beast. It's an awesome device as it is, but it's even awesome-er when your root
If u rooted the phone or not .. u will never use ur warranty ...
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device : note2
ROM : testing
kernel : testing
modem : XXDLK7
recovery : TWRP
It's easy to remove all evidence of rooting if you ever need to. Still I don't think you should rush into it if your uncertain. There are benefits I've gained from rooting though nothing I couldn't live without. To some extent I've been rooting for so long it's just a habit now, I'm just used to having it, but even if I didn't have it on this phone I'd be happy with it.
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LukeC88 said:
Hi guys,
SHOULD I ROOT THE DEVICE?
WHAT BENEFITS WILL I GET?
Cheers guy
p.s. love the community here!
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If you know valid reason to root your device then root it, don't rush for fun or experiments. when you find some stuffs needs root that is must for you then go and root, but read couple of times before it.
dirtydeangelo said:
If u rooted the phone or not .. u will never use ur warranty ...
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I don't getting you. If you saying rooting voids warranty then
This is purely misguiding statement
I have rooted device and i still have warranty, what is wrong ?
dr.ketan said:
If you know valid reason to root your device then root it, don't rush for fun or experiments. when you find some stuffs needs root that is must for you then go and root, but read couple of times before it.
I don't getting you. If you saying rooting voids warranty then
This is purely misguiding statement
I have rooted device and i still have warranty, what is wrong ?
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Nothing is wrong ... from my experience with phones I had never use the warranty
At all
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ROM : testing
kernel : testing
modem : XXDLK7
recovery : TWRP
dirtydeangelo said:
Nothing is wrong ... from my experience with phones I had never use the warranty
At all
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Me neither. However it's a fact that a small number of units shipped will develop a fault. If you're going to put big money into a phone line the Note 2 then it's not unnatural to want assurance that you are going to have protection if you are one of the unlucky ones.
Sent from the mighty Note II
dr.ketan said:
I have rooted device and i still have warranty, what is wrong ?
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Warranty is always a question of time.
The advantage of rooting is difficult to explain to everyone who is doubting about that.
For me rooting is something that should not be necessary.
There are many users that will never use root access even when it is available.
But there are thoughts that root access will lead to problems or misuse.
For me root access is usefull in some cases. For example to install Whatsapp on tablets with wifi-only.
Not a question of advantages and disadvantages of Root OR how it is helpful
I mean to say You can claim warranty even you have device rooted with flash counter 0.
2 main reasons for me :
- Blocking ads
- backing up my entire phone.
You can't do that without root.
Now that my phone is rooted i've done other changes like installing the aosp camera to use photosphere and CWM to backup and install zip easier.
But I keep stock rom with stock kernel, with this phone there is no need to change it to my mind.
With root you can put any tiers application in the multi windows right?
You can also disable bloatware or freeze them with greenify.
The only thing is missing with is the undervolt settings. That's why I'm already in custom kernel/ROM.
But when 4.2.2 goes out I'll certainly go back stock ROM which i hope, will increase battery life.
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dr.ketan said:
Not a question of advantages and disadvantages of Root OR how it is helpful
I mean to say You can claim warranty even you have device rooted with flash counter 0.
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Not in the good ole United States of America (but there is more too this?)
If you purchase a Samsung Galaxy Note II (or any other phone) from a Authorized Dealer, it comes with one year warranty and guarteneed warranty per terms of that dealers contract. If you unlock/root/flash, whatever, you break that contract because of something YOU did, not the Authorized Dealer, therefore, they are not responsible for it, YOU are.
Now, as someone that has unlocked/rooted/flashed MANY phones over the years, every set of instructions I have every read.....1. Explains the above first. 2. Immediately explains to read ALL the instructions first and understand them before you attempt anything. 3. Explains THEY are not responsible if you brick your phone. 4. They always give detailed instructions (or link to them) a. How to put it back to stock and b. Lastly, DO NOT TAKE PHONE BACK TO DEALER ROOTED!!!
Now, with that said, I (we) in America have T.E.P. (Total Equiptment Protection) that I pay $11.00USD a month. This insurance is in case I lose my phone, its stolen, I drop in bathtub, run over with car.............I pay a deductible ($150.00USD I think) and they give me a new phone.
Now, these are two different things. During the initial warranty period, If I have SDS, I take it back to Authorized Dealer, fix my s**t! After Warranty, period, I send it back to insurance company, pay deductible, and either they send you a new one OR send you a agreed upon compatable device!
Cheers!!!
For me rooting was a must for directory bind. As has been said blocking ads is essential greenify good and the increase Volume mod was also a god send.
However on the downside I've lost sky go.
I rooted my Samsung day 2 and wouldn't turn back. Iv undervolted getting 2 days out of my battery. Root is awesome.
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Can I root and keep everything stock and get ota updates? That would be perfect because I really dislike custom roms. I've got the 4G version.
Hey guys, this is my first post on the forums, and forgive me if I am posting in the wrong section and if I am, please let me know where to post this question, thanks in advanced.
So I am one of the very many who are unfortunate enough to have android 4.3 On my Note 2, and then I was stupid enough to r00t it. So in turn, my knox count went from a nice 0x0 to an ugly 0x1.
So i did some reading and from what I understood, Sammy can reset it themselves but say goodbye to the warranty. I just got off the phone from a local cell phone repair shop, and the guy told me that he can reset it for me for 50 dollars.
My question is, should I trust this guy and have him reset it for me? Is he actually going to reset it? Or will he just hide it so the knox 0x1 doesnt even show at all?
My goal is to simply get the phone in a state where I can get it replaced under warranty, and advice would be greatly appreciated.
Again, forgive me if I broke any rules.
Sammy clearly can reset this counter...but I've yet to see any method posted from the development community...
Therefore...I'm Leary of the promises out there...g
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gregsarg said:
Sammy clearly can reset this counter...but I've yet to see any method posted from the development community...
Therefore...I'm Leary of the promises out there...g
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+1
I agree
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Yeah, I am suspicious kinda myself. I was wondering maybe these cell phone repair shops have a special tool they order from sammy or something. Cuz the guy was very confident when he answered me and said "yeah We can do that for you and restore the warranty", it was almost as if he had done it a million times.
Anyways Ill wait a bit and ask around some more, thanks for the information though
if the repair guy is an samsung authorized guy then maybe he could. but if hes not then save your money and wait till devs on here have a way to do it. this way you know your not just geting scammed.
If his company had a deal with Samsung then he can reset the knox counter. I my last meeting with Samsung they stated we would be able to reset the corporate phones we are thinking about buying for my company in our own IT department, to avoid having to send them out to Samsung.
As I have said before knox is installed to keep employees from modding corporate phones. To the average consumer it means nothing.
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^^^^^^^^^
Well get on with it and inform us about the "gizmo" or whatever samsung give your IT dept.
Then there may be $3k, or a chunk of it on the way to you.
theunderling said:
^^^^^^^^^
Well get on with it and inform us about the "gizmo" or whatever samsung give your IT dept.
Then there may be $3k, or a chunk of it on the way to you.
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Okay I got s new update on the whole Knox thing.
Samsung has confirmed it can be reset. Knox begin tripped effect the software of the phone only it does not trip an actual hardware fuse. However we are now being told that we will not be allowed to have the software because it might compromise the integrity of Knox for them to let other companies have it.
Do to this I asked a few more specific questions regarding the future of the phone once Knox has been tripped.
I can confirm that this does not void a physical damage warranty unless there is proof that the phones kernel has been modified. Not sure how they could tell but that's what they said.
Also I can confirm that it will not effect your devices ability to upgrade to new android versions when they come out. However when the upgrade comes out it will not be able to install the Knox portion of the upgrade. As long as Knox is tripped it will not reinstall on the device.
I can also confirm that the device will continue to operate normally with Knox tripped. Knox is designed to keep a small portion of the device compartmentalize, once tripped it removes that compartment and formats it into the rest of the device.
This is all per a Samsung 4 Business rep as of this morning.
They were actually pretty straight forward and open about it.
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Thanks for the info.But you seem to have been told 2 totally contrasting stories,which makes me suspicious.Did the guy know that most,if not all private users want to remove knox,opposed to hack it or the like.They could potentially lose more private customers than gaining ones from business sector.
It seems to me you voided your warranty when you rooted it. Every rooting thread I ever saw states this.
Yeah rooting kills the warranty, but Im hoping by doing triangle away and making everything else look official, ill try to blame the 0x1 I got on hardware issues, since I truly do have a camera issue and a network bar issue, ill just say I called a Sammy rep and they took me through a procedure and this is what happened, ill see what happens
Updated:
See my post on the next page for a link to getting your Knox flag reset by performing a bootloader downgrade...g
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gregsarg said:
Triangle away will not remove the unofficial flag from recovery once the 4.3 official bootloader is flashed...
At least it won't on mine...(tested it just for kicks)
They are gonna ask about it if they see the binary change...and for sure on Knox...
Honesty perhaps ??
After all...you did root the phone and void your warranty...not them...g
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im hoping the guys i give my phone to are a bunch of stupid people, kinda like when i took my eyefone back to appel it was ja1lbr0ken and they replaced it under warranty anyways
I dont expect them to replace my sammy phone, im just giving it a shot cuz the phone doesnt work anyways
after triangle away i made it look official as possible (attached pic) plus stock 4.3 rom, ill blame knox 1 trip it on hardware or faulty motherboard
see what happens, again i dont expect them to help me but ill see
odis905 said:
Hey guys, this is my first post on the forums, and forgive me if I am posting in the wrong section and if I am, please let me know where to post this question, thanks in advanced.
So I am one of the very many who are unfortunate enough to have android 4.3 On my Note 2, and then I was stupid enough to r00t it. So in turn, my knox count went from a nice 0x0 to an ugly 0x1.
So i did some reading and from what I understood, Sammy can reset it themselves but say goodbye to the warranty. I just got off the phone from a local cell phone repair shop, and the guy told me that he can reset it for me for 50 dollars.
My question is, should I trust this guy and have him reset it for me? Is he actually going to reset it? Or will he just hide it so the knox 0x1 doesnt even show at all?
My goal is to simply get the phone in a state where I can get it replaced under warranty, and advice would be greatly appreciated.
Again, forgive me if I broke any rules.
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I suspect he can get cheap mainboards.
someone says.... you can try...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2486346&page=93
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Originally Posted by Qobok View Post
If someone has a knoxed device please try the followings:
1) Flash via odin the latest firmware you had before rooting or tripping knox flag.
2) After the phone turns on go to Settings/Accounts/Backup and reset -> Factory data reset -> confirm.
Wait for the phone to boot.
Go to recovery and check if the knox flag is 0x0 if is not 0x0, restart the phone and go to Settings/Accounts/Backup and reset -> Factory data reset -> confirm.
And for the guy who created this thread send the money to this or this.
newxdabie said:
someone says.... you can try...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2486346&page=93
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Originally Posted by Qobok View Post
If someone has a knoxed device please try the followings:
1) Flash via odin the latest firmware you had before rooting or tripping knox flag.
2) After the phone turns on go to Settings/Accounts/Backup and reset -> Factory data reset -> confirm.
Wait for the phone to boot.
Go to recovery and check if the knox flag is 0x0 if is not 0x0, restart the phone and go to Settings/Accounts/Backup and reset -> Factory data reset -> confirm.
And for the guy who created this thread send the money to this or this.
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have you/some one tested is it working ??? because at my work they are requesting for encrypted devices....
newxdabie said:
someone says.... you can try...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2486346&page=93
Quote:
Originally Posted by Qobok View Post
If someone has a knoxed device please try the followings:
1) Flash via odin the latest firmware you had before rooting or tripping knox flag.
2) After the phone turns on go to Settings/Accounts/Backup and reset -> Factory data reset -> confirm.
Wait for the phone to boot.
Go to recovery and check if the knox flag is 0x0 if is not 0x0, restart the phone and go to Settings/Accounts/Backup and reset -> Factory data reset -> confirm.
And for the guy who created this thread send the money to this or this.
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Updated:
See the link on the next page for a Knox free bootloader fix....g
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52362019
Knox reset now possible on Note3 Exynos. Hope to see it on GN2 soon.
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smeet.somaiya said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52362019
Knox reset now possible on Note3 Exynos. Hope to see it on GN2 soon.
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100
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Bootloader downgrade is now possible for note 2...see link on next page. ..g
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ShrekOpher said:
Okay I got s new update on the whole Knox thing.
Samsung has confirmed it can be reset. Knox begin tripped effect the software of the phone only it does not trip an actual hardware fuse. However we are now being told that we will not be allowed to have the software because it might compromise the integrity of Knox for them to let other companies have it.
Do to this I asked a few more specific questions regarding the future of the phone once Knox has been tripped.
I can confirm that this does not void a physical damage warranty unless there is proof that the phones kernel has been modified. Not sure how they could tell but that's what they said.
Also I can confirm that it will not effect your devices ability to upgrade to new android versions when they come out. However when the upgrade comes out it will not be able to install the Knox portion of the upgrade. As long as Knox is tripped it will not reinstall on the device.
I can also confirm that the device will continue to operate normally with Knox tripped. Knox is designed to keep a small portion of the device compartmentalize, once tripped it removes that compartment and formats it into the rest of the device.
This is all per a Samsung 4 Business rep as of this morning.
They were actually pretty straight forward and open about it.
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Is this only true of the Note II?