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Should I root?

Hi guys,
I have samsung note 2 N7100
Android version 4.1.2
I am just looking around and I see loads of stuff about rooting, I came from Apple iPhones coz they are **** now lol and i have jailbroken all my devices. Had my note 2 for few months now but I am worried if i root it I will loose my warranty and might mess up my phone....
I seen the tutorials and it looks really easy but lets say down the line I want to un-root my device, could I leave no trace of the device being rooted?
I had to replace my old note 2 and it was rooted i managed to un root it but the benefit was that I work in the phone shop and I replaced it.
SHOULD I ROOT THE DEVICE?
WHAT BENEFITS WILL I GET?
Cheers guy
p.s. love the community here!

Hi,
Even without root, the Note 2 is still beast.
But with all these customizations, tweaks, improvement going on in the development threads, it's a GO.
Plus, you can unroot easily anytime you have a computer.
Cheers!

First of all! Welcome to the family
Well here's what! Rooting your device is basically allowing your phone to run apps and do special operations that it cannot normally do and also flash custom roms. If anyone else can help with a reply that will be awesome. Just go through the step by step process in either this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696 or this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923956.
For more understanding, watch videos on youtube on the terms: rooting, custom Rom and custom recovery. If anyone can help it would be appreciated!
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here is a good tutorial to root without changing your counter ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1930418

Don't be a puss and root. May the force be with u....
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You have nothing to loose but more to gain

Well it's upto you. You'd get a HELL lot more of options with a rooted devices than unrooted. Personally, I find absolutely no reason not to root, and it would be such a waste to not unlock the full potential of this beast. It's an awesome device as it is, but it's even awesome-er when your root

If u rooted the phone or not .. u will never use ur warranty ...
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device : note2
ROM : testing
kernel : testing
modem : XXDLK7
recovery : TWRP

It's easy to remove all evidence of rooting if you ever need to. Still I don't think you should rush into it if your uncertain. There are benefits I've gained from rooting though nothing I couldn't live without. To some extent I've been rooting for so long it's just a habit now, I'm just used to having it, but even if I didn't have it on this phone I'd be happy with it.
Sent from the mighty Note II

LukeC88 said:
Hi guys,
SHOULD I ROOT THE DEVICE?
WHAT BENEFITS WILL I GET?
Cheers guy
p.s. love the community here!
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If you know valid reason to root your device then root it, don't rush for fun or experiments. when you find some stuffs needs root that is must for you then go and root, but read couple of times before it.
dirtydeangelo said:
If u rooted the phone or not .. u will never use ur warranty ...
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I don't getting you. If you saying rooting voids warranty then
This is purely misguiding statement
I have rooted device and i still have warranty, what is wrong ?

dr.ketan said:
If you know valid reason to root your device then root it, don't rush for fun or experiments. when you find some stuffs needs root that is must for you then go and root, but read couple of times before it.
I don't getting you. If you saying rooting voids warranty then
This is purely misguiding statement
I have rooted device and i still have warranty, what is wrong ?
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Nothing is wrong ... from my experience with phones I had never use the warranty
At all
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device : note2
ROM : testing
kernel : testing
modem : XXDLK7
recovery : TWRP

dirtydeangelo said:
Nothing is wrong ... from my experience with phones I had never use the warranty
At all
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device : note2
ROM : testing
kernel : testing
modem : XXDLK7
recovery : TWRP
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Me neither. However it's a fact that a small number of units shipped will develop a fault. If you're going to put big money into a phone line the Note 2 then it's not unnatural to want assurance that you are going to have protection if you are one of the unlucky ones.
Sent from the mighty Note II

dr.ketan said:
I have rooted device and i still have warranty, what is wrong ?
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Warranty is always a question of time.
The advantage of rooting is difficult to explain to everyone who is doubting about that.
For me rooting is something that should not be necessary.
There are many users that will never use root access even when it is available.
But there are thoughts that root access will lead to problems or misuse.
For me root access is usefull in some cases. For example to install Whatsapp on tablets with wifi-only.

Not a question of advantages and disadvantages of Root OR how it is helpful
I mean to say You can claim warranty even you have device rooted with flash counter 0.

2 main reasons for me :
- Blocking ads
- backing up my entire phone.
You can't do that without root.
Now that my phone is rooted i've done other changes like installing the aosp camera to use photosphere and CWM to backup and install zip easier.
But I keep stock rom with stock kernel, with this phone there is no need to change it to my mind.

With root you can put any tiers application in the multi windows right?
You can also disable bloatware or freeze them with greenify.
The only thing is missing with is the undervolt settings. That's why I'm already in custom kernel/ROM.
But when 4.2.2 goes out I'll certainly go back stock ROM which i hope, will increase battery life.
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dr.ketan said:
Not a question of advantages and disadvantages of Root OR how it is helpful
I mean to say You can claim warranty even you have device rooted with flash counter 0.
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Not in the good ole United States of America (but there is more too this?)
If you purchase a Samsung Galaxy Note II (or any other phone) from a Authorized Dealer, it comes with one year warranty and guarteneed warranty per terms of that dealers contract. If you unlock/root/flash, whatever, you break that contract because of something YOU did, not the Authorized Dealer, therefore, they are not responsible for it, YOU are.
Now, as someone that has unlocked/rooted/flashed MANY phones over the years, every set of instructions I have every read.....1. Explains the above first. 2. Immediately explains to read ALL the instructions first and understand them before you attempt anything. 3. Explains THEY are not responsible if you brick your phone. 4. They always give detailed instructions (or link to them) a. How to put it back to stock and b. Lastly, DO NOT TAKE PHONE BACK TO DEALER ROOTED!!!
Now, with that said, I (we) in America have T.E.P. (Total Equiptment Protection) that I pay $11.00USD a month. This insurance is in case I lose my phone, its stolen, I drop in bathtub, run over with car.............I pay a deductible ($150.00USD I think) and they give me a new phone.
Now, these are two different things. During the initial warranty period, If I have SDS, I take it back to Authorized Dealer, fix my s**t! After Warranty, period, I send it back to insurance company, pay deductible, and either they send you a new one OR send you a agreed upon compatable device!
Cheers!!!

For me rooting was a must for directory bind. As has been said blocking ads is essential greenify good and the increase Volume mod was also a god send.
However on the downside I've lost sky go.

I rooted my Samsung day 2 and wouldn't turn back. Iv undervolted getting 2 days out of my battery. Root is awesome.
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Can I root and keep everything stock and get ota updates? That would be perfect because I really dislike custom roms. I've got the 4G version.

About rooting.

Hello all. Can anyone tell me which is the easy way for rooting my T Mobile note 3? Sorry but I'm newbie in this phone!
Thank you, and I'll be waiting for your reply guys.

MCASTILLO said:
Hello all. Can anyone tell me which is the easy way for rooting my T Mobile note 3? Sorry but I'm newbie in this phone!
Thank you, and I'll be waiting for your reply guys.
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There are 2 choices:
Root dela Vega - Will NOT trip the KNOX. it will remain 0x0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484223
Chainfire - Will trip the KNOX to 0x1. Will void your warranty with Samsung.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466423
Make sure to read carefully and follow the step by step process to make your rooting a pleasant one...

kuroy301 said:
There are 2 choices:
Root dela Vega - Will NOT trip the KNOX. it will remain 0x0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484223
Chainfire - Will trip the KNOX to 0x1. Will void your warranty with Samsung.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466423
Make sure to read carefully and follow the step by step process to make your rooting a pleasant one...
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Thank you for your answer.
Which is better. With root dela Vega I don't loose my warranty? Sorry my friend. I don't understand very well this! But I going to read all.

If you call T-Mobile and tell them you rooted your device and now have a hardware problem.... you might have a problem.
If you leave out the root part and just describe the problems you are having most likely you will be fine.
If the device won't even turn on, etc... they can't see that it was rooted.
That said, you should really... REALLY read up on what rooting method you choose and the followup messages that are posted by those who use it so that you are aware of what issues you may run into.
If you do this fully informed, you should be both successfully rooted and able to deal with any issues you run into because you already read about it.
Also read up on what you can do with Root once you get it. Deleting a bunch of files is not a good idea if you are not really familiar with what you are doing.

Thank you for your answers.
This is my problem. When I turn on the wifi appears this notice...
I don't know what happen! But I received three replacements. And all they is the same problem! I really like the root cell phone. At the moment I have note 2 rooting. And it working very good!
But. Can anyone help with this notice. Please? By the way. The phone doesn't have any application, only of factory.

If you do a simple google search for prevention information samsung, you will find a ton of messages in many forums about this. It is a bug that many samsung devices are currently experiencing.
Hard to imagine you have gotten three replacement phones for this issue AND didn't makes this the topic of your question instead of rooting.
If you are rooted, you can freeze the KNOX apps and you most likely won't see these errors. I don't.

krelvinaz said:
If you do a simple google search for prevention information samsung, you will find a ton of messages in many forums about this. It is a bug that many samsung devices are currently experiencing.
Hard to imagine you have gotten three replacement phones for this issue AND didn't makes this the topic of your question instead of rooting.
If you are rooted, you can freeze the KNOX apps and you most likely won't see these errors. I don't.
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Then.. Is this normal. My phone will continue with this bug?
One more thing. I'm interesting in root. And the issue with my phone. This is the right place. Q&A. Help. Troubleshooting. Doesn't it?
And thank you.
Do you have any issue with your phone. Any bug. If your phone is root at the moment, right now you have any bug. Or you have issue with KNOX?

MCASTILLO said:
Then.. Is this normal. My phone will continue with this bug?
One more thing. I'm interesting in root. And the issue with my phone. This is the right place. Q&A. Help. Troubleshooting. Doesn't it?
And thank you.
Do you have any issue with your phone. Any bug. If your phone is root at the moment, right now you have any bug. Or you have issue with KNOX?
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It is a bug, ie should not be happening.
It affects more than the Note 3 and is known. Assumption is that Samsung is fixing it. Don't know if the fix will come from them or T-Mobile.
I am rooted, used the De La Vega Root method when I got the phone.
As a rooted device, I can use Titanium Backup to Freeze the Knox apps and as a result the "bug" does not show.
I have not use for Knox nor plan to. Knox flag is 0x0 though.
Below shows the frozen KNOX apps.

Any one click apk or mac options? I dont have a pc and money is tight!
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[Q] XNOX Crap

Hi all.
This question has probably been answered, but I cannot find it in the sea of thousands of posts here.
I flashed the Phoenix ROM 16.7 and in Download mode I have KNOX warranty VOID - 1.
Now, this is to assume that I have lost my warranty forever, or there is some way to install, patch, upgrade, downgrade or anything to do to get the warranty back to 0 so I can take the phone to service?
I have tried flashing original N7100XXUEMK9_N7100OXXEMK4_ETL but warranty still says 1.
Any idea guys if it is possible to get the warranty void to 0?
Thanks.

fuzijacz said:
Hi all.
This question has probably been answered, but I cannot find it in the sea of thousands of posts here.
I flashed the Phoenix ROM 16.7 and in Download mode I have KNOX warranty VOID - 1.
Now, this is to assume that I have lost my warranty forever, or there is some way to install, patch, upgrade, downgrade or anything to do to get the warranty back to 0 so I can take the phone to service?
I have tried flashing original N7100XXUEMK9_N7100OXXEMK4_ETL but warranty still says 1.
Any idea guys if it is possible to get the warranty void to 0?
Thanks.
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As of now, no.
Smack that Thanks button if I helped!
XDAing from a N7105 powered by Illusion ROM.
Sent from a small country called Singapore.
P.S. Time for school, not much time for XDA

That sucks.
Lets hope Samsung comes to their senses and enabled Devs to work with this.
I believe that Samsung has/will lost/loose many customers due to this, since many people like to flash custom ROMs on their phones

how do you verify knox is still 0x0 after rooting using Kingo?

I used the Kingo root method, went well was even able to install TIBackup and a few other applications.
However, I've looked and there are posts that "show" the Knox status in startup mode but where do I find it? IF I didn't flash a custom recovery to NOT trip knox, how do I verify that Knox is still 0x0?
I am hoping I am not asking a repetitive question because I did do a search on the Q&A forum first and found lots of posts "about" Knox and various other posts about this but, and PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF I DIDN'T FIND IT AND AM ASKING A REDUNDANT QUESTION, how do I confirm I haven't tripped Knox?
Thank you in advance.

Look up how to put phone in download mode and u will see it
TWEAKED 1.0 NOTE 3

BACARDILIMON said:
Look up how to put phone in download mode and u will see it
TWEAKED 1.0 NOTE 3
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Thank you, much obliged. I swear this was driving me nuts.
FYI, in case anyone else is wondering, Kingo works great on the T-Mobile Note 3 root and no Knox trip.
Now to remove bloatware...

sanjsrik said:
Thank you, much obliged. I swear this was driving me nuts.
FYI, in case anyone else is wondering, Kingo works great on the T-Mobile Note 3 root and no Knox trip.
Now to remove bloatware...
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i read on another thread that they worked out the security issues with kingo. i used it to root and it was quick and easy. havent experienced any side effects. it doesn't trip KNOX

I hate knox!!!
I just do not understand WHY they felt the need to put this Knox crap in the software. IJS

sanjsrik said:
Thank you, much obliged. I swear this was driving me nuts.
FYI, in case anyone else is wondering, Kingo works great on the T-Mobile Note 3 root and no Knox trip.
Now to remove bloatware...
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Be careful. I just used the kingo app on my stock note3 and it tripped my knox warranty. So be very careful. Just proves you can't believe everything that you read.
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Edit: The kingo program installed clockwork mod recovery on my phone during the rooting process.

Troy1 said:
Be careful. I just used the kingo app on my stock note3 and it tripped my knox warranty. So be very careful. Just proves you can't believe everything that you read.
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Edit: The kingo program installed clockwork mod recovery on my phone during the rooting process.
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The Kingo program installed supersu on my device and that's it. I still have 0x0 Knox. So, no idea what happened with yours. I don't even think CWM is included in Kingo.

Troy1 said:
Be careful. I just used the kingo app on my stock note3 and it tripped my knox warranty. So be very careful. Just proves you can't believe everything that you read.
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Edit: The kingo program installed clockwork mod recovery on my phone during the rooting process.
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Kingo does not load a recovery, just a copy of supersu to provide root access. You did something to cause cwm to be installed. Perhaps a different process or you loaded cwm afterwards yourself?

I can confirm Kingo does not trip Knox, unless you did something afterwards or maybe you do not have original T-mo phone, I think the new bootloaders are locked and will trip flag, but I think T-mo should still be on MI7.

pete4k said:
I can confirm Kingo does not trip Knox, unless you did something afterwards or maybe you do not have original T-mo phone, I think the new bootloaders are locked and will trip flag, but I think T-mo should still be on MI7.
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I thought it was weird also. But the only thing I did was verify the bootloader version at MI7 and ran the program. I watched the program run and freaked out when I saw the cyanogen robot. I didn't even have that recovery anywhere on the phone where the program could access it. I'm not sure how our why it happened. I'm new to that program and this phone but not new to flashing. I was trying to preserve all warranties and remain stock. Just wanted root. Hopefully someone will figure out how to revert knox one day.
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I just read the kingo changelog and as of version 1.1.7 there are scripts added to use a custom recovery to inject root. On their Facebook page it even says to be aware of the risks involved in flashing a custom recovery. I used version 1.1.8 and at no time did it say it was going to install a recovery nor did it give me the option to choose not to. I am trying to get sold off the people that developed the app but cannot find an email address on the website. I'm glad that the program has worked for so many. Sad that it didn't for me. If anyone could tell me if I did something wrong it would be appreciated. Seems like I am the only one this has happened to.
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Sorry to hear that, when I get home tonight I'll verify which version I used, but I just double checked and my Knox flag is not tripped yet. To be fair there was at least one huge warning in red letters saying I will loose my warranty and brick my phone by using this program, so I was actually sort of expecting to trip the flag. Also it seems T-mo does not check Knox flag, or at least I have not seen one T-mo customer claiming his warranty was refused yet, due to that.
It would be nice to figure out why it didn't work for you, when it worked for many others, so we can post warning.

pete4k said:
Sorry to hear that, when I get home tonight I'll verify which version I used, but I just double checked and my Knox flag is not tripped yet. To be fair there was at least one huge warning in red letters saying I will loose my warranty and brick my phone by using this program, so I was actually sort of expecting to trip the flag. Also it seems T-mo does not check Knox flag, or at least I have not seen one T-mo customer claiming his warranty was refused yet, due to that.
It would be nice to figure out why it didn't work for you, when it worked for many others, so we can post warning.
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I agree. And thank you for the info regarding tmobile. I just can't figure out what I would have done wrong. The warranty could be an issue but I'll deal with that if it ever arises. I was just trying to keep the phone as stock as possible. Thank you for your assistance.
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I used Kingo 1.1.8.1835, no problems, what's your version? And how do I check if they installed CF recovery?

pete4k said:
I used Kingo 1.1.8.1835, no problems, what's your version? And how do I check if they installed CF recovery?
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I used 1.1.8. I just powered down and then used volume+,power and home to bit into recovery. The cool thing out of this if there is anything, is that the cwm recovery is the touch version. I had never used that version before.
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Stock recovery on mine and we used same version, strange

Worked PERFECTLY!
Just completed the process of rooting my new GN3...FLAWLESS! Now on to some custom ROMs!!! :victory:

Is there a way to undo root of in use kingo. I will probably want to take the kitkat ota when it released, but want to root to use some xposed mods till then.
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I think you just hook your phone up, start up Kingo and press unroot. I have not tried it myself but the option should be there. As a matter of fact there is nothing I read so far to want me upgrade and many to not.

sanjsrik said:
I used the Kingo root method, went well was even able to install TIBackup and a few other applications.
However, I've looked and there are posts that "show" the Knox status in startup mode but where do I find it? IF I didn't flash a custom recovery to NOT trip knox, how do I verify that Knox is still 0x0?
I am hoping I am not asking a repetitive question because I did do a search on the Q&A forum first and found lots of posts "about" Knox and various other posts about this but, and PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF I DIDN'T FIND IT AND AM ASKING A REDUNDANT QUESTION, how do I confirm I haven't tripped Knox?
Thank you in advance.
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boot into download mode holding home+power down button+power

triangle away

Did anyone tried triangle away to reset knox counter to 0x0? I juste want to make sure it can be reset before rooting and losing my warranty. Or maybe someone knows a better way to reset knox

Post is in wrong format.

How can i change the format of my post please? And which format does it has to be? This is my first time getting a wrong format message. Thanks for the help

Youve set up a Q&A voting thread.
Next time create a thread with the default option, no need to check the Q&A box. These posts are only viewable in a browser.

Will not work. Triangle away was for reseting the unofficial flash count on older sammy devices. Chainfire issued a statement years ago when dealing with the s4 and note 3. The best thing you can do without causing harm to anyone is ask your supplier if rooting would void the warranty. I live in Europe and we can root and still be under warranty.
Here is the thread which states which devices triangle away works on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/orig-development/2014-01-15-triangleaway-v3-26-t1494114

Ok thanks @ashyx

Thanks for the info @jetbruceli

Thanks @jetbruceli for the info