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I want to change my phone, and I simply cannot decide.
At Vodafone RO, the Arc would cost me 235eur and the Sensation 290eur.
What I want from a phone: decent battery life (I want it to last a day with web browsing); great display: I want a big and high-quality display; good looks and high quality build; decent performance: smooth web browsing, smooth UI but I don't care about gaming performance or 1080p video shooting/playback.
I played with both phones, but never had one for a few days. I noticed that the Sensation is not so fast, actually in some circumstances it's pretty slow; something bugging me at Sensation: closed all running apps and the remaining RAM was still 150mb; tried it with 3 different devices and read about this in a review. Plus, I saw that the web-browsing battery life is lower than Arc's.
What bothers me most about the Arc: the 320mb internal memory; as I know from my P500 (~150mb internal), the memory fills pretty fast...
So my question is: is the not-so-fast Sensation worth over the single-core wonderful-looking Arc? I really want objective opinions and I want to know how's the Arc in real-life, please
Hi There,
I have the Arc, when i bought i also looked at the Sensation and S2..
I use the Arc a fair bit for web browsing and instant messaging and I have to be honest and say i would struggle to get the day out of it. I usually find myself topping it up at my PC during the day. I would only imaging the Sensation is worse though. I had a HTC Desire before the Arc and it drained a lot quicker than the Arc and ran a lot hotter. A few niggles I find with the Arc -
1) Keyboard entry - for some reason its not always 100% accurate.. this improves if i clean the screen so could be down to the screen protector thats factory fitted to the Arc
2) Reboot times - no consistency with my Arc - could be 30 seconds could be 2 minutes
3) I have seem some slowdowns screen redraws slowly etc but nothing that would be put me off using the phone.
Anyway they are my negatives - there are plenty of positives but im sure you are aware of those already
Cheers,
Mick
I also looked at the sensation and desire s but after using my stepdads desire s and my brothers sensation I settled for the arc, I use it heavily for web browsing and some gaming during the day and mine lasts from about 8am til around 11pm the screen is very sharp and clear as im sure youve noticed
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One advantage of Xperia arc is that it is recently rooted and you will witness everything from the first succesful rom (CM7) which is coming soon to many custom roms. Basically you will witness xperia arc's developer timeline
I bought an arc in June, and afterwards I had the chance to fiddle a bit with a friend's Sensation. I have to say, I was not that impressed with the latter.
The display is not that great and the overall build quality seems much poorer than other non-HTC phones.
For example, after barely one month of use, my friend's Sensation had the colour faded on the housing at the corners, so it have off a really cheap plastic feeling. He also managed to drop it once to the floor from ~1m and it had a nice dent on the edge...
Whereas my arc still looks brand new! I also dropped it a few times but no visible marks were left.
The only thing I'm a bit disappointed in is the screen. Sony Ericsson say it's scratch resistant, but it's not Gorilla glass. A little extra care is required. Or a screen protector, for that matter.
Overall, I'm glad I got an arc. Rooted, OC'd to 1.6GHz and with v6Supercharger script running, it's lightning fast and smooth, it doesn't lag (and I'm quite a heavy multitasker) and even after ~150 uptime hours, I still have around 150MB of free RAM.
So if you're happy with a single-core, I definitely recommend the arc. If you want dual, the Galaxy S II is the best choice, in my opinion.
Hello,
You said good display, I definately reccomend Arc, I was today comparing display with Optimus 2x ( I know it's not Sensation) and image at arc got crispness and it shows ALOT better darker colours image is brighter(or got more contrast)-i dont know.
Although O2x got higher illuminated screen. And I dont think that S-LCD is better than just LCD.
About battery in Sensation I've read that HTC set battery to charge to 80% (it will show 100%) for security reasons, and more lifetime. It's possible to fix it.
Ive tried both and they both have the pros and cons but i still love the arc for what its worth. HTC just includes alot of widgets and animation. I think that is why alot of people like there phones.
Well, the fact is that I don't really want to mod my next phone. I want to buy a phone that's good as it is.
The only reason I modded my P500 is becuase it's crappy with the stock ROM.
About Sense UI: it's something I really like (although many people say it's just visual crap), we have 2 sense ROMs ported to P500 but sadly GSM doesn't work (those were the ROMs I was looking most forward to). The Arc's UI is pretty elegant but I don't like the fact that it's pretty poor in colors (I like colourful icons on black backgrounds). And I really hate the fact that it's missing smart dialling, that's a feature I use all the time. But there's no perfect device.
@crimilde: I don't want the SGS2; in my opinion, an expensive phone must have a high quality housing to justify its money and the SGS2 is made out of crappy plastic. For me the build quality is very important and I don't want to spend 1600RON on a crappy-plastic toy.
Thanks for your help, my 5 thanks per day limit kicked in on this thread )
Well I used to have a Desire and rooted and installed numerous custom roms.
My 2 penneth... with the Sensation there will soon be numerous roms and you will be able to sort out any battery issues. The screen isn't as good as the Arc BUT when app devs start to take advantage of dual core you'll see the benefits.
I ultimately went for the Arc as the screen is fantastic, battery life is pretty good (of course you should use auto screen brightness as well as oother power tweaks to get more than 1 days usage - I can get more than I could with my desire)
For those talking about keyboard accuracy, just install the gingerbread keyboard from the market and your accuracy probs will be sorted.
Ultimately my advice, go for the Arc, looks great, is fast enough and the screen is brilliant (oh and audio is good too)
Hope this helps!
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micks_address said:
Hi There,
I have the Arc, when i bought i also looked at the Sensation and S2..
I use the Arc a fair bit for web browsing and instant messaging and I have to be honest and say i would struggle to get the day out of it. I usually find myself topping it up at my PC during the day. I would only imaging the Sensation is worse though. I had a HTC Desire before the Arc and it drained a lot quicker than the Arc and ran a lot hotter. A few niggles I find with the Arc -
1) Keyboard entry - for some reason its not always 100% accurate.. this improves if i clean the screen so could be down to the screen protector thats factory fitted to the Arc
2) Reboot times - no consistency with my Arc - could be 30 seconds could be 2 minutes
3) I have seem some slowdowns screen redraws slowly etc but nothing that would be put me off using the phone.
Anyway they are my negatives - there are plenty of positives but im sure you are aware of those already
Cheers,
Mick
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keyboard entry was a problem from x10, i think they have fixed it for the arc(x12). so far it seems to be fine. try update to the latest fw.
i apply another screen protection on top of the factory default screen protector. it doesn't bother me with the input at all.
i recommend to put another screen protection, couse the factory default screen protector is a little bit tricky to replace.
about batery life, it improves a lot after around 10 full-cycle charges. when i first bought it, it rarely past 24 hour. updated to the latest fw, deleted unwanted bloadware, and optimize batery setting (brightness, timeout time, etc) and now :
it can past 48 hours with normal use (texting, little gaming and wifi)
it can past 24 hours with moderate use (fare gaming and wifi)
it can past 12 hours with heavy use (lots of gaming and wifi)
ps. i use live wallpaper all the time, couse static wallpaper is boring
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Well, the fact is that I don't really want to mod my next phone. I want to buy a phone that's good as it is.
The only reason I modded my P500 is becuase it's crappy with the stock ROM.
@crimilde: I don't want the SGS2; in my opinion, an expensive phone must have a high quality housing to justify its money and the SGS2 is made out of crappy plastic. For me the build quality is very important and I don't want to spend 1600RON on a crappy-plastic toy.
Thanks for your help, my 5 thanks per day limit kicked in on this thread )
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well, i still haven't mod my arc, still impressed with the oficial fw updates by SE
yeah, i've tried arc and S2, playing around with them before finally diceded arc is better suited for me.
reasons :
- the scroling animation seems to be faster, and it was still with 2.3.2 fw.
- the design.. arc owns s2. s2 is big, fat, and box like. arc is more sexy
- it's a sony, they have good camera reputation, i previously own a k750i
Also id like to add.
The first batch of xperia Arcs are not so great build quality.
I had one, since April, the back made noises, and the buttons got stuck. Camera button was really stiff.
Now that could just of been a one off.
But i recently got a replacement and i have to say this handset feels alot better.
All the problems are gone which i had before.
I actually really enjoy this phone.
It's really nice to hold. I find it fast for my needs.
Which is mostly, emailing, calls, texts and Internet.
A few games which all run smoothly.
Even the more top end games like galaxy on fire 2 runs fine.
I use SwiftKey, which I don't think I could live without now.
It's a amazing keyboard.
I used to like sense, had it on my htc hero.
Looking back at it now, it looks and feels bad.
I used to love it.
They are so much more home screen replacements that do things better.
I don't use the default sonyericsson home.. Why,,, well I don't like it.
What I'm saying is if there is something that you don't like. I'm sure they are a replacement in the market to fill your needs.
I also think htc phones all look the same, boring design in my eyes.
As for battery life all depends on screen brightness, down to how much you use it.
Mine lasts easy a whole day at work.
Also have to hand it to sonyericsson they have keep the updates coming for this device. It's a real treat to receive so many improvements.
You should choose the ARC. With the latest 2.3.3 FW (Generic UK) the phone is fastest, battery life is the best. After about 5 charges (my phone) with moderate use battery lasts abour 40 hours; Heavy use - 10-12 hours; constant use - I managed to get about 5 hours with Wi-Fi, BT, GPS, Auto-Sync on at 75% Brightness. As for internal memory... there is included app2sd with the phone. Any phone has bloatware, things you don't want, you don't need... so root is not actualy modding. I'm also from Romania, Bucharest, I have an Arc and i'm very happy with my choice. Hope you will be with yours. Cheers
22VIN said:
Well, the fact is that I don't really want to mod my next phone. I want to buy a phone that's good as it is.
The only reason I modded my P500 is becuase it's crappy with the stock ROM.
About Sense UI: it's something I really like (although many people say it's just visual crap), we have 2 sense ROMs ported to P500 but sadly GSM doesn't work (those were the ROMs I was looking most forward to). The Arc's UI is pretty elegant but I don't like the fact that it's pretty poor in colors (I like colourful icons on black backgrounds). And I really hate the fact that it's missing smart dialling, that's a feature I use all the time. But there's no perfect device.
@crimilde: I don't want the SGS2; in my opinion, an expensive phone must have a high quality housing to justify its money and the SGS2 is made out of crappy plastic. For me the build quality is very important and I don't want to spend 1600RON on a crappy-plastic toy.
Thanks for your help, my 5 thanks per day limit kicked in on this thread )
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What and the Arc's plastic is high quality, the crack problem would seem to put that in doubt. Speaking as an Arc owner I do not expect the front fascia to crack after only about three months, especially for the money paid. The GS2 plastic is pretty darn tough & at least I haven't read reports of it cracking.
I think I'll buy the Sensation afterall. I'm gonna get a bigger contract because I need more traffic and I'll get the Sensation for 210eur. Or I'll change my mind again, I can never know )
Thanks very much for your help
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I hope you are prepared for this kind of problems in HTC Sensation
but i think if you are going to get HTC Sensation XE, these problems are fixed
Goodluck!
The Xperia Arc is definitely better than the sensation in my opinion..
the sensation has a dualcore yeah and the arc just a single-core, but there is no OS out there that supports dualcore yet. so i would go for the xperia arc when it comes to user experience!
Well I got the Sensation afterall
About the display issue: a friend has the Sensation and he has but problems, phones in shop displays don't have problems, in fact I never met anybody with display issues. If it happens to me, well, tough luck
The deathgrip issues don't bother me, I never hold my phone that way.
Yes, I know that for now there's no real support for dual-core phones, but there will be starting with ICS and I bought this phone to keep it for at least 1 year and dual-core is the future. I was afraid that single core phones will soon be left behind...
In a way I regret the Arc, it's an awesome phone and a classy device but in another way I don't, for now I love this phone. And if I don't like it I can always exchange it with another phone, this is a pretty expensive device, so I have many options.
Thanks again very much for all your help!
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You might wanna wait for Sensation XE with Beats Audio the death grip issues are resolved in that model .. It has much better audio performance and speed,
Edit: Oops you already got it. Congrats Mate.
I think the latest Android Revolution HD ROM has all the features from the new Sensation including "overclock" to 1.5GHz.
Sensation's CPU is a 1.5GHz dualcore but HTC downclocked it to 1.2GHz from what I've heart.
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Flo95 said:
I think the latest Android Revolution HD ROM has all the features from the new Sensation including "overclock" to 1.5GHz.
Sensation's CPU is a 1.5GHz dualcore but HTC downclocked it to 1.2GHz from what I've heart.
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Yep, that's true, it's underclocked. But HTC will release an update which brings 1.5ghz. Btw, I played a YouTube 1080p clip and it worked very nice (after the 2.3.4 update and flash player update).
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Which should I buy amongst One V, Neo V and Sola..??
Also you could suggest some other good phone around Rs.20000 (its around 350$-360$ i guess)..
I need good camera, decent development community, nice battery life, and nice sound quality as well..
I need a quick suggestion..
Thnxxx in advance..
If the above 3 are your options .. damn what are you thinking about mate. Definitely sola. My friend has it and it is extremely awesome. Btw i have used the other 2 phones as well. But the final decision is in your hands.
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About nice battery life i think it's joke anyway, i recommend ONE V (maybe because i sacrifise those smartphones). It is designed much better than neo v and sola. Aluminium, Gorilla Glass, great camera (for ex. you can get ideal picture because ur phone makes 3 photos in different scenes- dark, light and auto, then it put it together in one and you have ideal photo xD) and of course beats audio think about it
First of all you shouldn't buy a phone without a gpu
I think the One V is a good phone but the hardware is almost 2 years old. The sola seems to be a bit better by the hardware and the best of all your listed phones.
But what's about the Sony Xperia P it costs around 350$? It has got a bigger display and more internal storage, just a recommendation but that phone costs around 100$ more than the sola.
Regards
Ok had a play with ZL and XZ in a local store..I am surprised by these things:
As we know most things about the XZ i wont go onto those points..rather ZL.
1. ZL is more brighter and better contrast than XZ..And no the values of calibration were set to 0 on ZL..i put up sony live wallpaper [purple] on both and ZL was visibly more brighter and vibrant!I Wonder what was sony thinking not giving its flagship that same screen? :/
2. Sound through headphones and speakers both were better on ZL..Dont know why? i can understand speakers bcoz of water proofing.
3. Easier to use due to small size and withe same size screen is a plus.
And alas i am confused :/ Dont wanna loose the build quality of XZ but want a brighter screen too!
Have any pictures that you can post for us?
randy_c said:
Have any pictures that you can post for us?
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I will be posing pictures and videos of mine in a few hours! Damn fedex didnt say it would had came yesterday doesnt even show on the tracking but they left a stupid note.
Does the little door on the back for the sim/micro sd make the phone look cheap cause you can see it and it doesn't 100% look flush? I'm on the fence because I haven't seen the phone and it might make it look/feel cheap because of this.
tenshi888 said:
Does the little door on the back for the sim/micro sd make the phone look cheap cause you can see it and it doesn't 100% look flush? I'm on the fence because I haven't seen the phone and it might make it look/feel cheap because of this.
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Nah, its perfect fit on mine (one needs to press the flap firmly to make it fit flush). And it only looks elegant to me (i like it better than glass back on XZ), not to mention the better (more comfortable) grip it provides esp. for single hand use wrt XZ. I would suggest you to go n have a look at it in person. Also, i find the overall build quality of XZL better than my Xperia S and far better than my Note 2 :good:!
P.S: I compared the ZL screen with two XZs and found that it (ZL) screen had better contrast/vibrance than one XZ but no discernible difference with another one. The internal speakers on ZL are louder than Z. Then there are other apparent differences (size, placement of front & back camera etc.). One thing that i'm really enjoying on ZL is the notification LED at the bottom, pretty awesome n unique imo :victory:!
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Nah, its perfect fit on mine (one needs to press the flap firmly to make it fit flush). And it only looks elegant to me (i like it better than glass back on XZ), not to mention the better (more comfortable) grip it provides esp. for single hand use wrt XZ. I would suggest you to go n have a look at it in person. Also, i find the overall build quality of XZL better than my Xperia S and far better than my Note 2 :good:!
P.S: I compared the ZL screen with two XZs and found that it (ZL) screen had better contrast/vibrance than one XZ but no discernible difference with another one. The internal speakers on ZL are louder than Z. Then there are other apparent differences (size, placement of front & back camera etc.). One thing that i'm really enjoying on ZL is the notification LED at the bottom, pretty awesome n unique imo :victory:!
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Thanks for the information, i do love the ZL at least on paper. How's the shutter key, is there a long delay in opening the camera app after pressing it? Finally, does the phone feel thick at 9.8? Thanks again!
tenshi888 said:
Thanks for the information, i do love the ZL at least on paper. How's the shutter key, is there a long delay in opening the camera app after pressing it? Finally, does the phone feel thick at 9.8? Thanks again!
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Shutter key is good (actually better than my Xperia S). It launches the camera app in 1-1.5 sceonds from sleep (i.e no delay imo). Once camera app is ready, pressing the shutter key zaps the image with no delay/lag. And no, the phone actually doesn't feel thick to me, maybe because of the curved back. My note2 felt thicker (at 9.4mm). XZ is slimmer but not as much as one would think compared to ZL (given 7.9mm vs 9.8mm).
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Does the little door on the back for the sim/micro sd make the phone look cheap cause you can see it and it doesn't 100% look flush? I'm on the fence because I haven't seen the phone and it might make it look/feel cheap because of this.
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yes it does look cheap as u can clearly see the gap as much as u push it in..it looks like an after jod..they shud have put it on the sides like the XZ.
And as far as looks and feel go u cant compare it to XZ..XZ just looks way more premium than ZL..ZL's front is great but the back looks cheap,,just holding the XZ makes u wanna take it home
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yes it does look cheap as u can clearly see the gap as much as u push it in..it looks like an after jod..they shud have put it on the sides like the XZ.
And as far as looks and feel go u cant compare it to XZ..XZ just looks way more premium than ZL..ZL's front is great but the back looks cheap,,just holding the XZ makes u wanna take it home
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Lol.. certainly not! The sim/sd card slot door/flap fits snugly and doesn't look odd as you state. To prefer matte or glossy back is personal choice but i don't think anything with nice matte finish could be considered cheap! XZ is a beautiful phone, but i'm not a big fan of glossy back as it gets dirty easily (and then really looks cheap ), not to mention the odd / uncomfortable grip while holding an edged flat slab. And i think the front of ZL has killer looks, much better than XZ especially with the screen on & superb LED at bottom (due to same 5" screen fit onto much smaller bezel.. go figure)!
About the premium look or feel, I feel both XZ & ZL possess the premium looks but ZL has better feel in hand, its again personal preference! Currently don't have my camera, so can't post some nice pics of my ZL now. But i managed these from web (see attachments).
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yes it does look cheap as u can clearly see the gap as much as u push it in..it looks like an after jod..they shud have put it on the sides like the XZ.
And as far as looks and feel go u cant compare it to XZ..XZ just looks way more premium than ZL..ZL's front is great but the back looks cheap,,just holding the XZ makes u wanna take it home
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I agree that Sony should have put the SD and SIM slots on the sides. The assflap design choice makes no sense to me. However, that said, the ZL feels as 'premium' as the Z does. Now I am not saying this just because I have the ZL. I could have as well bought the Z, but it gets really uncomfortable to hold with to flat surfaces. Play with both for some time and you'll see
If there's a brightness difference between them, there's probably a water/dust related coating on the Z screen that isn't on the ZL.
ok just a correction..What i had seen was a demo unit which [i dont know why] has less brightness and contrast..Saw a retail Xperia Z and its very bright and there is no difference in Z AND ZL...Sorry for my not having researched!
Hmmm great comparison you have! Anyway I really like the waterproofing feature from the Xperia ZL!
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Hmmm great comparison you have! Anyway I really like the waterproofing feature from the Xperia ZL!
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Hey guys, I recently posted a link where the Carphonewharehouse were offering the P6 for £239.95 which is a steal! it was on sale for no longer then 2 weeks and it went up too £309.95, to me this seems like a lot of money for a phone that is in a mid range market, you can get the Galaxy S3 for £290 brand new
I know its made out of aluminum and its thin and beautiful, but it doesnt compete with the likes of the Galaxy S3 in benchmarks ( I do prefer the P6 though, due to its smooth UI and thin body )
I then noticed you can get some of todays top flagship phones for around the same price
HTC One - £290-£360 depending on condition
Xperia Z £265 - £300 depending on condition
Galaxy S4 - £300 - £360 depending on conditon
What do you guys think? There processors, Displays and build quality are all better and are this years specs where as the P6's are last years.
Im debating weather or not to get the Xperia Z or HTC One over the P6 just because they have 1080p displays and better processors, but then the P6 calls to me because of the smooth UI and thinness
Jack
JackHanAnLG said:
Hey guys, I recently posted a link where the Carphonewharehouse were offering the P6 for £239.95 which is a steal! it was on sale for no longer then 2 weeks and it went up too £309.95, to me this seems like a lot of money for a phone that is in a mid range market, you can get the Galaxy S3 for £290 brand new
I know its made out of aluminum and its thin and beautiful, but it doesnt compete with the likes of the Galaxy S3 in benchmarks ( I do prefer the P6 though, due to its smooth UI and thin body )
I then noticed you can get some of todays top flagship phones for around the same price
HTC One - £290-£360 depending on condition
Xperia Z £265 - £300 depending on condition
Galaxy S4 - £300 - £360 depending on conditon
What do you guys think? There processors, Displays and build quality are all better and are this years specs where as the P6's are last years.
Im debating weather or not to get the Xperia Z or HTC One over the P6 just because they have 1080p displays and better processors, but then the P6 calls to me because of the smooth UI and thinness
Jack
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From personal experience Ascend P6 > Xperia Z, except if you want the LTE and the water-restance on your phone.
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From personal experience Ascend P6 > Xperia Z, except if you want the LTE and the water-restance on your phone.
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The xperia z definitely got better specs, but its huge! p6 is more one hand and pocket friendly
I have my P6 since 2 weeks, before I had a galaxy s2. After the P6, my old Galaxy S2 feels so cheap.
At first I want a HTC one, but the feeling of it wasnt so nice as the P6.
Personally I think benchmark are not representative about the Perfomence of the Device. I choose the P6 because I dont play huge games like Real Racing or Modern Combat, I play games like Temple Run or Hill Climp Racing. The P6 runs very smooth, and the Battery life is awesome.
I had the same debate before buying. But i wasn't into S3 which my dad uses and i simply don't like Samsung UI anymore, nor the size. And i don't like the Xperia Z either in terms of size. My contender was with the Xperia ZR. But for several personal reasons i didn't go for it :
1) although i found it for lesser price in many online shops, yet on the ground market in my place, it was way higher by 140$. So not really an immediate buy.
2) The phone doesn't feel or look as great or premium as the p6
3) I got no use with those bravia engines or gaming performance because i don't really watch movies or play powerful games on the mobile. (there is talk that gaming problems are because of optimization and can be fixed)
4) I have used the Sony interface on other mobiles and also my brothers new xperia z ultra and to me it was like the same old empty-ish Sony interface with some very minute changes, hence i felt i would be quickly bored by it. While the P6 instead has a difference experience with plenty of simple but smart features, at least for me.
At the end of the day, it all depends upon what exactly would you use your phone most for. Both has it pros and cons and you'd have to make the choice depending on what cons you would be able to tolerate.
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I had the same debate before buying. But i wasn't into S3 which my dad uses and i simply don't like Samsung UI anymore, nor the size. And i don't like the Xperia Z either in terms of size. My contender was with the Xperia ZR. But for several personal reasons i didn't go for it :
1) although i found it for lesser price in many online shops, yet on the ground market in my place, it was way higher by 140$. So not really an immediate buy.
2) The phone doesn't feel or look as great or premium as the p6
3) I got no use with those bravia engines or gaming performance because i don't really watch movies or play powerful games on the mobile. (there is talk that gaming problems are because of optimization and can be fixed)
4) I have used the Sony interface on other mobiles and also my brothers new xperia z ultra and to me it was like the same old empty-ish Sony interface with some very minute changes, hence i felt i would be quickly bored by it. While the P6 instead has a difference experience with plenty of simple but smart features, at least for me.
At the end of the day, it all depends upon what exactly would you use your phone most for. Both has it pros and cons and you'd have to make the choice depending on what cons you would be able to tolerate.
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I still have to go with the P6, Ive watched so many videos of the smooth and customizable UI, it just has everything that my Galaxy S3 doesnt, especially the build quality, metal over plastic anyday for me.
I just cant get over the price £309.95 when it was £239.95, you could argue and get a Nexus 4 with change to spare. I might just have to buy a pre owned P6 just to get over that price tag
p6 all the way .. that thickness.. mmm very slim .. can be smartphone be even slimmer?
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p6 all the way .. that thickness.. mmm very slim .. can be smartphone be even slimmer?
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Huawei said that they could have made it thinner but the 3.5mm headphone jack is a industry standard and thats why that cant make it thinner, although they could make a 2.55mm headphone jack and make specific earphones that are included to have a smaller pin?
Or make an adapter thats smaller ?
to be fair i like how slim it is now, i wouldnt want it any slimmer
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Huawei said that they could have made it thinner but the 3.5mm headphone jack is a industry standard and thats why that cant make it thinner, although they could make a 2.55mm headphone jack and make specific earphones that are included to have a smaller pin?
Or make an adapter thats smaller ?
to be fair i like how slim it is now, i wouldnt want it any slimmer
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aah alright .. i think android requires that 3.5 yes .. there are jacks even smaller yes but android industry prob wont allow that..
there are even bigger audio jacks for 2.5 , 3.5 and 6.36 for guitars or guitar speakers etc.. theoretically they COULD use 2.5 mm jack hmm .. we could find out..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Photo-audiojacks.jpg
I had (still have) a Sony Xperia Z, but didn't much care for it. No specific reason, it just failed to inspire me. The P6 I think is superb. Best 'phone I've had since my HTC HD Mini.
Long before the HD Mini, I had a Samsung XGH-X820, then classed as the world's thinnest 'phone (there is a theme here) being only 6.9mm at it's narrowest and it had a long connector for the headphones that might have doubled for the charging socket. I presume Samsung fitted this to enable them to make the 'phone thinner. Of course, to use anything other than the supplied headphones, you needed an adaptor. As the 'phone only had around 80Mb of memory and getting media on and off was a nightmare, this never became much of a problem.
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I'm aware there is already a similar thread but I wanted some answers more specific to my needs and to current prices. I recently had my uninsured S5 stolen and I'm stuck in a contract so I need to buy a mid-range phone which is going to last me another 16 months or so without feeling too outdated. I want a smaller handset as I was getting sick of the larger phones. My budget stretches to about £270 for which both the S5 mini and the Z1 compact are currently priced. Unfortunately I can't stretch to the z3 compact price. I want to know which phone has the better camera, as this is one of the main selling points for me. I know that neither will match up to the s5 camera. On paper the z1 compact has the best camera, but I've seen a few posts saying it is actually disappointing and often freezes. The S5 minis camera seems to get fairly positive reviews despite being only 8MP. I'm no pro photographer so will I even be able to tell the difference?!
I don't care about the samsungs gimmicks (heart rate sensor, fingerprint scanner etc.) and also don't mind touchwhiz too much. I do like the fact it has a removable battery as I often carry a spare, but maybe the sony battery is miles better anyway?
I'm also wary about changing to Sony. I've had Samsungs for years and they've never broken, apart from when I dropped them. Samsung quickly replaced them for me free of charge after some persuasion it wasn't my fault! I've seen a lot of posts questioning the z1 compacts reliability, and a few more claiming sony aren't too good at dealing with replacements etc. Also slightly wary about the glass back cracking? Though I admit the Sony looks better.
I've never rooted or flashed custom ROMs or anything so I'm probably in the wrong forum (sorry!) but this seems to be the most active phone forum I could find. I'm not completely opposed to rooting etc if it would be really beneficial, though again, I'm wary!
Should point out that I don't game much on mobile, I just like a smooth, reliable experience for browsing internet, watching youtube, using facebook, whatsapp, reddit etc, and a good reliable camera.
So basically, do I play it safe and stick with Samsung, better screen, decent camera, pics may even look better on the better screen, though the phone may be slightly slower? Or do I go for the z1 despite my reliability concerns?! Is rooting going to change the decision between the two??
Thanks, and sorry for the long post! Appreciate your answers, if I get any! :good:
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Get the sony they beat samsung hands down
If u ar a samsung fan then go for s5 mini
But from the spec s5 mini is no where compared to z1c
Thanks for the replies. Think I'm leaning towards the Sony, think I'm just wary that its more likely to break.... quite fancy a change from the samsung though
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Thanks for the replies. Think I'm leaning towards the Sony, think I'm just wary that its more likely to break.... quite fancy a change from the samsung though
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If you don't really need a very fast CPU/GPU and the 512MB more memory. Actually, I would recommend you to stick with Samsung.
S5 Mini got 0.2" larger screen with physical key so actually it's about 0.35" larger, the battery is 200mah smaller capacity on S5 mini but battery switchable. The image quality is better on Z1c but focus is bad, so it is a 50/50. The S800 CPU on Z1c is like 2x ~ 3x raw performance plus there are 512MB ram more, it really depends if you are going to run some big 3D games or heavily multi-tasking then you need it. The phone design is also more pretty on Z1c and there are more mods(like 4K video) and custom roms for Z1c but you'll need to root.
If you just run some basic apps and normal gaming, then I think S5 mini with larger screen and spare battery is more better for you.
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Hi
I'm aware there is already a similar thread but I wanted some answers more specific to my needs and to current prices. I recently had my uninsured S5 stolen and I'm stuck in a contract so I need to buy a mid-range phone which is going to last me another 16 months or so without feeling too outdated. I want a smaller handset as I was getting sick of the larger phones. My budget stretches to about £270 for which both the S5 mini and the Z1 compact are currently priced. Unfortunately I can't stretch to the z3 compact price. I want to know which phone has the better camera, as this is one of the main selling points for me. I know that neither will match up to the s5 camera. On paper the z1 compact has the best camera, but I've seen a few posts saying it is actually disappointing and often freezes. The S5 minis camera seems to get fairly positive reviews despite being only 8MP. I'm no pro photographer so will I even be able to tell the difference?!
I don't care about the samsungs gimmicks (heart rate sensor, fingerprint scanner etc.) and also don't mind touchwhiz too much. I do like the fact it has a removable battery as I often carry a spare, but maybe the sony battery is miles better anyway?
I'm also wary about changing to Sony. I've had Samsungs for years and they've never broken, apart from when I dropped them. Samsung quickly replaced them for me free of charge after some persuasion it wasn't my fault! I've seen a lot of posts questioning the z1 compacts reliability, and a few more claiming sony aren't too good at dealing with replacements etc. Also slightly wary about the glass back cracking? Though I admit the Sony looks better.
I've never rooted or flashed custom ROMs or anything so I'm probably in the wrong forum (sorry!) but this seems to be the most active phone forum I could find. I'm not completely opposed to rooting etc if it would be really beneficial, though again, I'm wary!
Should point out that I don't game much on mobile, I just like a smooth, reliable experience for browsing internet, watching youtube, using facebook, whatsapp, reddit etc, and a good reliable camera.
So basically, do I play it safe and stick with Samsung, better screen, decent camera, pics may even look better on the better screen, though the phone may be slightly slower? Or do I go for the z1 despite my reliability concerns?! Is rooting going to change the decision between the two??
Thanks, and sorry for the long post! Appreciate your answers, if I get any! :good:
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Disclaimer: You are asking this on the Z1 Compact sub-forum, of course you will get biased answers here but I will try to stay objective.
First up the S5 Mini comes with either an Exynos 3 processor or a Snapdragon 400, if you get the Exynos variant there will be very little to no community support for it, meaning once Samsung drops support for it you won't be able to get community updates through CyanogenMod or such for it, you'll be stuck with whatever version of Android Samsung leaves you with, as opposed to the Z1 Compact which I'm expecting to live for a long time provided it physically holds together.
Z1 Compact back is plastic, not glass. I can't really say about drops and screen cracks, but I have been told this is one of the areas the Z3 Compact improves on, I've dropped mine a few times and it's fine so far.
The camera is fine, it isn't the best, but it's certainly not bad. On Sony ROMs it produces very good pictures. On non-Sony ROMs the pictures are not as good, but still ok.
As far as performance goes there's no comparison, the Z1 Compact thrashes both variants of the S5 Mini. I haven't used the S5 Mini myself, so I can't comment on its battery, but I can tell you for sure that the Z1 Compact will without a doubt last you at the very least one full day of quite heavy usage. If you're not a heavy user as you claim, then it will most likely last you 2 full days, perhaps requiring you to activate stamina mode on day 2. This will improve even more with Lollipop.
If you've been using Samsungs for a while then yes, colours will look dull at first on the Sony since Samsung over-saturates their screens providing very vivid (but unnatural) colours, but I can guarantee you that the Sony screen is not bad, in fact, it is really very good, which you'll see once you've gotten used to non-Samsung screens.
I have owned iPhones (original, 3GS, 4S), HTCs (3 or 4 over the years, last one was the One X, loved it, but when the screen broke I got the S3 LTE...), Samsung (S3 LTE, hated its guts, I don't know how you can stand TouchWiz), Motorola and a few Sonys. Performance and features aside, the Z1 Compact is the best phone I have owned hands down. It's the right size for me, it's not too heavy and not too light either, battery life is excellent even for a heavy user like myself, usually at about 40-50% at the end of the day.
Oh and don't forget the Z1 Compact is waterproof as well, very useful feature!
...Sorry for the long reply hehe.