Looking over in the Note 3 forums it looks like a way has been found to root the phone WITHOUT tripping Knox. I tried a search here but can't find anything on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46818366
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481330
I'm all up for giving this a shot so I can undo SU.
The only thing is, is that I have no clue what a terminal is or how to use one. It does look like this can be done via Odin.
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THIS IS FOR STOCK TW ROOT ONLY. Anything else will trip knox.
So what do you think? Personally (if this works) I think this is a great way to achieve Root and use root apps.
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Hi, I upgraded to the 4.3 yesterday and lost my root then I re rooted my [email protected] s3 i747 and it was working then all of a sudden it stopped and now this stupid security policy is blocking everything. I've tried everything to stop it. I tried to re root it and it still didn't work and apparently I lost root access, I used the chainfire autoroot with stock recovery. Does anyone know how to root the 4.3 and keep the stock recovery just like the root I used before. Thanks.
Little research could have provided you with the answer. Right now it looks like there is no permanent root. Once root is lost there doesn't seem to be any way to get it back. It may take some time for a solution to be found.
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1ChesterD said:
Little research could have provided you with the answer. Right now it looks like there is no permanent root. Once root is lost there doesn't seem to be any way to get it back. It may take some time for a solution to be found.
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The cell companies do not want you to be able to Delete their Bloatware.
SO basically have a new phone here with absouletely nothing done to it. I would like to root and get rid of the bloat, but i need to use knox for my work. I take it that means custom roms are out, but Ill be happy with 4.4 and ART.
Before I break anything, can you guys give me the basic run down or any thing i should know before i start rooting? I havent really messed with rooting much since the droid x days (what a great phone that was)
also, im curious...how do they send down OTAs and not trigger knox? isnt that technically a new ROM?
Go to original development thread and use the "root De La vega" method which doesn't trip the Knox counter but let's you keep root so you can uninstalled bloatware, you'll need to download odin. Basically just read everything in that thread it walks you thru it very simply.
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I have been researching the different rooting methods lately since this might be the longest I've ever gone without root a device. I plan on keeping the stock rom since I use wifi calling on several occasions. What I really want is to customize the device using Xposed and wanam. So, on to questions.
1) Which root method do you recommend? I have looked into CF Auto Root and Root de la Vega. I don't particularly care about my Knox warranty or the ability to use Knox since it is basically bloatware to me. Does Root de la Vega wipe the entire device or not (I have read conflicting reports about this.)
2) I had intended to use root to access the old standby wifi tether however that doesn't seem to be an option anymore. (Unless anybody has a fix for it)
3) What all can be done with the Xposed framework and Wanam? I always used custom roms on my old T-Mobile GS2 and never got into any of this.
4) I do have several Square-Enix games installed and I have read that Xposed breaks them. Is the only workaround still to disable all of Xposed to play your game? Also, after disabling Xposed will I have to reset all the customizations I had made every time? Seems like that would be a lot of hassle.
5) Anything else I might be overlooking?
Thanks in advance for any replies. Just looking for a little help in deciding on whether or not to root this device since I have no intention (at this time) of flashing any roms and it wont allow me to tether.
I just realized that I posted this in general instead of Questions, could a moderator please move it?
I used root de la vega without knox tripping. Seems like if you don't care about knox being tripped than use kingo. But kingo usually don't trip knox either.
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I used root de la vega without knox tripping. Seems like if you don't care about knox being tripped than use kingo. But kingo usually don't trip knox either.
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Did root de la vega wipe your device or did everything stay put?
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Did root de la vega wipe your device or did everything stay put?
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For me, it didn't wiped anything.
I used CF-Autoroot. The fastest and easiest way. Took me 12 seconds to root. If you're going to put TWRP/CWM on your phone then just use CF-Autoroot. Nothing was wiped on my phone.
if you root your phone this way, and want to "jump" to an different phone down the road, does T-mo care if knox is tripped, or your phone is rooted when you bring it in to get a different one?
moving from Sprint to T-mo this week, and I dont know what the "rules" are with T-m0..
thanks
I guess I will use CF Auto Root. I spent the better part of 3 hours or so trying to use universal RDLV and couldn't get it to build my custom firmware.
Hi all, I'm a root noob, I've never rooted an Android device before but I'm strongly tempted to root my Tab S 8.4. This method looks rather complicated, though the fact that it's confirmed working for Lollipop and safe with Knox is nice. On the other hand, CF-Auto-Root looks rather easy but the official website says nothing about Lollipop on the Tab S 8.4, and if I'm reading correctly, requires an unlocked bootloader? What's the easiest and safest way to root?
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Hi all, I'm a root noob, I've never rooted an Android device before but I'm strongly tempted to root my Tab S 8.4. This method looks rather complicated, though the fact that it's confirmed working for Lollipop and safe with Knox is nice. On the other hand, CF-Auto-Root looks rather easy but the official website says nothing about Lollipop on the Tab S 8.4, and if I'm reading correctly, requires an unlocked bootloader? What's the easiest and safest way to root?
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The easiest way is to use KingRoot. Worked for me on my SMT-700 without any problems..oh yeah, you'll see a scary message about "device failure" or "device not compatible" or something like that. [emoji12]
Then check out "SuperSume" to change the superuser app...if you wanna'.
Don't forget about boot image and recovery...TWRP is my favorite.
Happy rooting!
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Galaxy Tab S | SMT-T700 | klimtwifi
TiTiB said:
The easiest way is to use KingRoot. Worked for me on my SMT-700 without any problems..oh yeah, you'll see a scary message about "device failure" or "device not compatible" or something like that. [emoji12]
Then check out "SuperSume" to change the superuser app...if you wanna'.
Don't forget about boot image and recovery...TWRP is my favorite.
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I don't mean to bother you or anything, but to be totally honest that method has me rather confused XD It sounds like I need to go to samsung-updates.com and download and flash the Kitkat firmware for my region using Odin, which will unfortunately wipe my device. Then I use Kingroot, reboot, and uninstall Kingroot. Next, I use the terminal to gain root privileges, use System App Remover to uninstall Kinguser, again ensure I have root privileges, and use said temporary root privileges reflash the stock firmware. Then I install a bootloader because flashing stock firmware erased the one I already had (?) using download mode and Odin. That sounds awful messy, though if it's confirmed to be rather safe and solid, I'll still gladly consider it. Am I correct in this interpretation of the guide? Additionally, would the second flash using Flashfire also require me to wipe my device? (I'm guessing no.)
Sounds like you want to just root, and *not* install a new OS. If this is the case then simply use KingRoot. It doesn't do anything except provide root priviledges/access and install Kinguser, as you mentioned. [you really did your part in researching, unlike some folks who just want to be spoon fed, I and others really appreciate that].
I provide a link to the version of KingRoot that used. There is also, as previously mentioned, SuperSume. I noticed there is a paid version on Play, but I know there is the "original" free version that, I think, was written by an xda member.
Hope this helps
https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8tvUtXZ--2aRWtLWVZwTlRIUjA/edit
TiTiB said:
Sounds like you want to just root, and *not* install a new OS. If this is the case then simply use KingRoot. It doesn't do anything except provide root priviledges/access and install Kinguser, as you mentioned. [you really did your part in researching, unlike some folks who just want to be spoon fed, I and others really appreciate that].
I provide a link to the version of KingRoot that used. There is also, as previously mentioned, SuperSume. I noticed there is a paid version on Play, but I know there is the "original" free version that, I think, was written by an xda member.
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You are correct, I just want stock Lollipop with root on top. In that case, should I follow the Kingroot guide I linked to above and omit certain steps, or should I just install Kingroot and do something else entirely? Would this method obtain a root access that is persistent across reboots? (It sounds like in the guide it only gives you root until the device next shuts down.) Additionally, how would I go about receiving an OTA update? I anticipate that installing an OTA while rooted could cause problems.
Oh, and thanks for linking me to the Drive folder and such!
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You are correct, I just want stock Lollipop with root on top. In that case, should I follow the Kingroot guide I linked to above and omit certain steps, or should I just install Kingroot and do something else entirely? Would this method obtain a root access that is persistent across reboots? (It sounds like in the guide it only gives you root until the device next shuts down.) Additionally, how would I go about receiving an OTA update? I anticipate that installing an OTA while rooted could cause problems.
Oh, and thanks for linking me to the Drive folder and such!
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What you are asking is beyond my knowledge/experience level. I've only used custom ROMs after rooting and never had any thought of keeping stock anything...getting rid of every piece of Samsung software was the main reason for me to root.
As for KingRoot, though, I used it once and have done many flashes of new ROMs, TWRP versions, etc., and have not had to use it again. Hope this info helps.
Someone else will need to chime in on this..good luck.
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The whole point of the kingroot method is to preserve the knox counter for warranty purposes.
If you don't care about knox then simply flash CF-autoroot and be done.
The kingroot method is long-winded because it converts you to supersu which is required to use Flashfire, which in turn is used to flash updates.
Can build G920PVPU3CPD3 be rooted?
Which root method should I use?
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Can build G920PVPU3CPD3 be rooted?
Which root method should I use?
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Just install TWRP and flash SuperSU.
So there is noway to do this without tripping knox?
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No.
Let me add on a bit to my initial response. Rooting the phone will trip Knox. Has been this way for quite some time. Discussed across many thread here and elsewhere.
Now the question comes up as to what do you lose by tripping Knox? Samsung Pay will never work for you. Android Pay may or may not work. Many people have been able to get it working at least in part, but disable Root (via SuperSu) when using Android Pay. I don't use either of those, so I don't care.
Then the question comes up if this voids warranty. The answer is only if you say "Hey, I rooted my phone and then broke something!" If you need warranty for a physical defect, go back to stock via Odin and you shouldn't have a problem. If you root your phone and then install a ROM not meant for your phone or local (like a Note ROM or an international ROM) you are probably going to mess something up that will be immediately obvious. The solution is not to do that.
Realistically, there aren't a ton of great ROMs available for this phone and most are based on stock anyway. No CM13 as yet. If you can live with your phone un-Rooted, that might be the wisest choice.
That said, I rooted my phone as soon as I got it. I went the full route, didn't care about tripping Knox and still don't. I have run both Renegade and TeamSPR ROMs and have been happy with them.
Now you can decide what to do.
Or u could root ur phone n install xposed on it ... Rooted S6 stock rom is now compatible with xposed its better than any custom roms out there
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In my case, I only need temporary root. After that it maybe removed. So it would be nice to be able keep knox from being tripped if possible. Installing twrp is an additional step too that I would like to avoid again because it would serve no purpose since root would only be temporary. I also wanted to be sure that build G920PVPU3CPD3 could be rooted. Thanks for your input guys.