SO basically have a new phone here with absouletely nothing done to it. I would like to root and get rid of the bloat, but i need to use knox for my work. I take it that means custom roms are out, but Ill be happy with 4.4 and ART.
Before I break anything, can you guys give me the basic run down or any thing i should know before i start rooting? I havent really messed with rooting much since the droid x days (what a great phone that was)
also, im curious...how do they send down OTAs and not trigger knox? isnt that technically a new ROM?
Go to original development thread and use the "root De La vega" method which doesn't trip the Knox counter but let's you keep root so you can uninstalled bloatware, you'll need to download odin. Basically just read everything in that thread it walks you thru it very simply.
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Hey there Galaxiers,
I'm new to this forum. I just upgraded my AT&T S3 to Jelly Bean 4.3 and becuase of that my tethering app no longer works.
I purchased a new tethering app that has great reviews called "WiFi Tether Router", but it is saying that I have to have "ROOT Permission"
I am assuming this means I have to root or semi-root my phone, but it seems like a lot of trouble.
Is there a simple method to get this permission without rooting, or a safe way to do it for someone who is not a total tecky.
Any help/direction here would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
Mark in Brea
In most cases tethering will require root, that is simple enough to do using cf autoroot, just search I forums and d/l the proper img or tar file(for Odin), rooting will kick your counter, so your warranty is void after that, triangle away will reset flash but not warranty counter.
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Thanks for the reply . . .
jimchee said:
In most cases tethering will require root, that is simple enough to do using cf autoroot, just search I forums and d/l the proper img or tar file(for Odin), rooting will kick your counter, so your warranty is void after that, triangle away will reset flash but not warranty counter.
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Am I to assume that all of my apps and setting will still be intact after this rooting process? And are there different version to root to? If so what would you recommend?
I'm not worried about warranty as I've had the phone for around 2 years. I just don't want to end up with a brick.
If I knew that the upgrade on Jelly Bean would lock out my tethering I would have never done it. God I hate these phone companies always trying to squeeze us for everything and more.
Mark in Brea
They should stay intact, but you should always do a backup in case something goes wrong, you can use the SGS toolkit by mskip's to do the backup but don't use it to root it is not up to date for that, just use option 99 to go straight to menu, bypass model info
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Moving over here from the S3 side. Holy crap what a difference! Sold on the Note 3 and all future Notes. I don't think I'll ever go back.
I've been reading over the Tmo Note 3 forums for the last week leading up to me getting the N3 last Friday. I want to root but I don't care too much for flashing roms anymore. I'm fine with stock for the most part. I went through hundreds of flashes on my S3 and ended up sticking with an Infamous TW ROM from April last year and could care less for 4.3 on the S3. All I want is the ability to remove the crap, install ViPER for android, remove the stupid start up and shutdown sounds, and install Xposes+Wanam for everything else that I want.
I luckily got a N3 that still has 4.3 on it, and I want to keep it that way for now. I know that there are two ways to root, CF and De La Vega. I signed up for jump at the same time as getting the phone and so I don't know if that affects anything either.
Now I'm stuck deciding how to root,
If I root with CF I trip knox and void that but then I have the luxury if I want to flash something in the future thats not stock.
If I root with De La Vega, I keep knox and just keep it simple as far as the ROM goes.
What benefits are there to each method. Can I still upgrade when the time comes with either root method?
I want to make sure I do this right the first time.
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Moving over here from the S3 side. Holy crap what a difference! Sold on the Note 3 and all future Notes. I don't think I'll ever go back.
I've been reading over the Tmo Note 3 forums for the last week leading up to me getting the N3 last Friday. I want to root but I don't care too much for flashing roms anymore. I'm fine with stock for the most part. I went through hundreds of flashes on my S3 and ended up sticking with an Infamous TW ROM from April last year and could care less for 4.3 on the S3. All I want is the ability to remove the crap, install ViPER for android, remove the stupid start up and shutdown sounds, and install Xposes+Wanam for everything else that I want.
I luckily got a N3 that still has 4.3 on it, and I want to keep it that way for now. I know that there are two ways to root, CF and De La Vega. I signed up for jump at the same time as getting the phone and so I don't know if that affects anything either.
Now I'm stuck deciding how to root,
If I root with CF I trip knox and void that but then I have the luxury if I want to flash something in the future thats not stock.
If I root with De La Vega, I keep knox and just keep it simple as far as the ROM goes.
What benefits are there to each method. Can I still upgrade when the time comes with either root method?
I want to make sure I do this right the first time.
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Seems like you have a lot to consider. There has as you have read been a huge conversation on rather to trip Knox or not. Your choice. There are plenty of good 4.3 roms and 4.4.2 roms running on the 4.3 bootloader with fixes. You just have to decide on rooting or not to root.
I decided to keep it safe and go with UDLV. So far so good.
I use Kingo root because if anything happens to my Note 3 and I need to send it for repair, I want to be able to un-root.
I am not sure how to unroot if I root the phone with De La Vega, but when I had my Galaxy S4 Active, it was really a b*tch to unroot. I had to revert to the stock ROM (finding one is another story), but I believe if I do this with the Note 3, this may or may not trip Knox, but I am not taking any chances for a $650 gadget.
Anyways, just FYI.
Hi guys I have my galaxy S4 close to a year now and now that I paid off the phone and now im ready to rootand do the whole 9 yards.
So I used to have a htc sensation before and I remember it needed to be s-off in order to gain root access, so does this also applies to my s4 or is rhat just aplicable to htc phone?
Now let me give you guys my specs:
T-mo us SGS4.
Stock rom, untouched.
Stupid knox installed.
Kit kat 4.4.2
Baseband: M919uvufnb4
Secure boot status: Samsung
Device status: official.
So I read that knox trips up and correct me if im wrong it lets samsung knows or something like that so you cant claim for warranty purposes????whats the best custkm recovery for the s4? Cwm or twrp?
So I wanna do:
1. Root
2. Install custom recovery
3. Remove tmo and samsung bloat. (Does anyone know which are safe apps to remove and where to remove them from?)
4. At the end of the day have a fully working S4 rooted with less junk in it.
As I think of more stuff to do I will post, or if you guys have better ideas, steps, or anything just let me know. All your help will be greatly appreciated.
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Hi guys I have my galaxy S4 close to a year now and now that I paid off the phone and now im ready to rootand do the whole 9 yards.
So I used to have a htc sensation before and I remember it needed to be s-off in order to gain root access, so does this also applies to my s4 or is rhat just aplicable to htc phone?
Now let me give you guys my specs:
T-mo us SGS4.
Stock rom, untouched.
Stupid knox installed.
Kit kat 4.4.2
Baseband: M919uvufnb4
Secure boot status: Samsung
Device status: official.
So I read that knox trips up and correct me if im wrong it lets samsung knows or something like that so you cant claim for warranty purposes????whats the best custkm recovery for the s4? Cwm or twrp?
So I wanna do:
1. Root
2. Install custom recovery
3. Remove tmo and samsung bloat. (Does anyone know which are safe apps to remove and where to remove them from?)
4. At the end of the day have a fully working S4 rooted with less junk in it.
As I think of more stuff to do I will post, or if you guys have better ideas, steps, or anything just let me know. All your help will be greatly appreciated.
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S-Off is an HTC thing. It doesn't apply to Samsung devices.
Knox will be tripped and they COULD prevent you from filing a warrenty claim. But that hasn't been a big deal so far and your phone is outside of warrenty anyway it sounds like.
Search for CF Auto Root. It makes rooting this a really simple 30 second process. (No downgrading firmware and all that jazz that you did on your Sensation using PM5110IMG files or whatever they were called.)
Custom recovery flashes in seconds as well.
You'll have to decide for yourself if you like CWM or TWRP. We don't allow discussions on XDA about 'which is better'. Both have their advantages. It depends on which you like best for your use.
There is a list of 'safe to delete' bloatware around here somewhere. The search feature will help you find it. But you can also just make a Nandroid backup first and delete whatever teh hell you want. If you break it, just restore.
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S-Off is an HTC thing. It doesn't apply to Samsung devices.
Knox will be tripped and they COULD prevent you from filing a warrenty claim. But that hasn't been a big deal so far and your phone is outside of warrenty anyway it sounds like.
Search for CF Auto Root. It makes rooting this a really simple 30 second process. (No downgrading firmware and all that jazz that you did on your Sensation using PM5110IMG files or whatever they were called.)
Custom recovery flashes in seconds as well.
You'll have to decide for yourself if you like CWM or TWRP. We don't allow discussions on XDA about 'which is better'. Both have their advantages. It depends on which you like best for your use.
There is a list of 'safe to delete' bloatware around here somewhere. The search feature will help you find it. But you can also just make a Nandroid backup first and delete whatever teh hell you want. If you break it, just restore.
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Just a comment on CWM. I tend to use it more but had issues flashing multiple ROMS with it, kept getting an error about "4 arguments accepted, received 5" when it was partitioning. In the M919 developers forum someone recommended TWRP and that did the trick for me. I don't know if its KitKat or s4 related but for now I'd suggest TWRP, CWM has not been working for me.
Thanks bro ill keep that in mind
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I have a T-889 on Tmobile 4g that I want to root, I have rooted before but never properly. I remember I had a custom rom that was built from official that had features I swore already came with the phone (im crazy). Back to the point======》
I want to root my phone but I hastily upgraded to Android 4.3. Now I have Knox, which I don't want to trip because im on Jump! Which lets me upgrade my phone and switch.
I heard alot about this new method called "towelroot" I am skeptic to try this, also I hear you can't use Odin(what I used to use) because it will trip Knox. I trying to find a safe method that will allow me to root and unroot safely. Also Im also trying to find a way to back up the whole system because I fugged up before. And finally can someone tell me what will/won't trip knox counter.
Thanks Precursors(maybe wrong word)
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Also I would like to here about the mods you have on your Note 2
Can build G920PVPU3CPD3 be rooted?
Which root method should I use?
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Can build G920PVPU3CPD3 be rooted?
Which root method should I use?
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Just install TWRP and flash SuperSU.
So there is noway to do this without tripping knox?
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No.
Let me add on a bit to my initial response. Rooting the phone will trip Knox. Has been this way for quite some time. Discussed across many thread here and elsewhere.
Now the question comes up as to what do you lose by tripping Knox? Samsung Pay will never work for you. Android Pay may or may not work. Many people have been able to get it working at least in part, but disable Root (via SuperSu) when using Android Pay. I don't use either of those, so I don't care.
Then the question comes up if this voids warranty. The answer is only if you say "Hey, I rooted my phone and then broke something!" If you need warranty for a physical defect, go back to stock via Odin and you shouldn't have a problem. If you root your phone and then install a ROM not meant for your phone or local (like a Note ROM or an international ROM) you are probably going to mess something up that will be immediately obvious. The solution is not to do that.
Realistically, there aren't a ton of great ROMs available for this phone and most are based on stock anyway. No CM13 as yet. If you can live with your phone un-Rooted, that might be the wisest choice.
That said, I rooted my phone as soon as I got it. I went the full route, didn't care about tripping Knox and still don't. I have run both Renegade and TeamSPR ROMs and have been happy with them.
Now you can decide what to do.
Or u could root ur phone n install xposed on it ... Rooted S6 stock rom is now compatible with xposed its better than any custom roms out there
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In my case, I only need temporary root. After that it maybe removed. So it would be nice to be able keep knox from being tripped if possible. Installing twrp is an additional step too that I would like to avoid again because it would serve no purpose since root would only be temporary. I also wanted to be sure that build G920PVPU3CPD3 could be rooted. Thanks for your input guys.