SO basically have a new phone here with absouletely nothing done to it. I would like to root and get rid of the bloat, but i need to use knox for my work. I take it that means custom roms are out, but Ill be happy with 4.4 and ART.
Before I break anything, can you guys give me the basic run down or any thing i should know before i start rooting? I havent really messed with rooting much since the droid x days (what a great phone that was)
also, im curious...how do they send down OTAs and not trigger knox? isnt that technically a new ROM?
Go to original development thread and use the "root De La vega" method which doesn't trip the Knox counter but let's you keep root so you can uninstalled bloatware, you'll need to download odin. Basically just read everything in that thread it walks you thru it very simply.
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Looking over in the Note 3 forums it looks like a way has been found to root the phone WITHOUT tripping Knox. I tried a search here but can't find anything on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46818366
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481330
I'm all up for giving this a shot so I can undo SU.
The only thing is, is that I have no clue what a terminal is or how to use one. It does look like this can be done via Odin.
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THIS IS FOR STOCK TW ROOT ONLY. Anything else will trip knox.
So what do you think? Personally (if this works) I think this is a great way to achieve Root and use root apps.
I don't wont to trip any counters...
kingo would be the easiest way. install the program on your computer, connect your device, click a couple times, let it do its thing and you'll have instant root. nothing else changes and nothing is lost. there was some bad feedback about the app but its been cleared up since then.
many people have used it.
www.kingoapp.com
rlee008 said:
kingo would be the easiest way. install the program on your computer, connect your device, click a couple times, let it do its thing and you'll have instant root. nothing else changes and nothing is lost. there was some bad feedback about the app but its been cleared up since then.
many people have used it.
www.kingoapp.com
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Seconded. It probably won't even trigger your Knox flag (I have rooted several times with Kingo and my Knox flag is still 0x0)
thompsos said:
Seconded. It probably won't even trigger your Knox flag (I have rooted several times with Kingo and my Knox flag is still 0x0)
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Why would we not want to trigger that, does that make Knox useless? Reason I ask is because I do use this phone for work with an exchange account and have been curious about this. If I use Knox to just try it out will that screw anything up?
ilogik said:
Why would we not want to trigger that, does that make Knox useless? Reason I ask is because I do use this phone for work with an exchange account and have been curious about this. If I use Knox to just try it out will that screw anything up?
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I tripped knox and never looked back I guess I'll figure out what I can do when my jump comes up
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ilogik said:
Why would we not want to trigger that, does that make Knox useless? Reason I ask is because I do use this phone for work with an exchange account and have been curious about this. If I use Knox to just try it out will that screw anything up?
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Tripping KNOX may make the phone incompatible with certain enterprise scenarios. Using kingo wont trip the counter so it shouldnt matter in your case.
ilogik said:
Why would we not want to trigger that, does that make Knox useless? Reason I ask is because I do use this phone for work with an exchange account and have been curious about this. If I use Knox to just try it out will that screw anything up?
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Check out this thread which is linked in the FAQ sticky here.
There is one person claiming Kingo tripped his Knox flag despite MI7, so unless we figure exactly why, I would be careful and maybe wait a little.
pete4k said:
There is one person claiming Kingo tripped his Knox flag despite MI7, so unless we figure exactly why, I would be careful and maybe wait a little.
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I don't know about that other person, but I had the same issue, I'm still on MI7, I used Kingo to rood my Note 3, everything was fine until it asked me to install an app called MtkCamera, which I declined, then Kingo kind of frozed and then it restarted. When I checked the Knox counter it was tripped ...so, I would suggest caution with this.
Well, first of all I would ask why do you want to root to begin with and secondly is that reason more important than using it for work. At least In theory Knox was developed for people like you, who have one phone for work and personal use, by providing secure environment for sensitive data. Even if your job doesn't use Knox yet, they may in the future. If I was doing banking or CC transactions on my phone I would seriously consider Knox as well, albeit I have no idea if it would actually serve it's purpose well. If you just test Knox you would need to download some extra software from Samsung, Samsung is aware of security holes and already patched them in the latest bootloaders, so Knox flag will trip when rooting for sure, so I wouldn't be surprised if those security updates wouldn't be the first downloaded as part of Knox suite, when installing it. So here I would speculate, since I have not tried it myself, that you should either root and take your chances, or use Knox and forget about rooting. I wonder if PTJunkie didn't play with Knox, or somehow manage to get Samsung security update, to get his flag tripped, where others didn't. I actually disabled updates to make sure I don't get any new enhancements from T-mo or Samsung.
If you have used Odin before,
root de la vega is easy.
http://www.android.gs/root-t-mobile...-root-de-la-vega-tool-knox-flags-not-tripped/
I root because i have a lot of apps that required root like titanium explorer and root explorer .
Moreso, I need to freeze all the bloatware like google now and s voice.
Dattack said:
If you have used Odin before,
root de la vega is easy.
http://www.android.gs/root-t-mobile...-root-de-la-vega-tool-knox-flags-not-tripped/
I root because i have a lot of apps that required root like titanium explorer and root explorer .
Moreso, I need to freeze all the bloatware like google now and s voice.
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I have 2 quick questions:
1. root delavega uses att rom, att phones don't have wifi calling, is wifi calling still working as usual on rooted, t-mo phones? or in general Is there anything T-mo specific that breaks after root?
2. I assume bringing the phone back to original would require reflashing original T-mo ROMS? Anything else needs to be flashed?
I haven't flashed back to tmobile stock yet. I still have wifi calling and I make sure to disable my tmobile account because they can tell if you are rooted.
Yeah, when you run that system check, but what can they do? Even if they cared, I'm not sure if they do, if your phone is stock with no flags tripped, I would argue and play stupid if needed return, or repair. Also I wonder if this check could be somehow disabled all by itself, for example by taking away some permissions.
Moving over here from the S3 side. Holy crap what a difference! Sold on the Note 3 and all future Notes. I don't think I'll ever go back.
I've been reading over the Tmo Note 3 forums for the last week leading up to me getting the N3 last Friday. I want to root but I don't care too much for flashing roms anymore. I'm fine with stock for the most part. I went through hundreds of flashes on my S3 and ended up sticking with an Infamous TW ROM from April last year and could care less for 4.3 on the S3. All I want is the ability to remove the crap, install ViPER for android, remove the stupid start up and shutdown sounds, and install Xposes+Wanam for everything else that I want.
I luckily got a N3 that still has 4.3 on it, and I want to keep it that way for now. I know that there are two ways to root, CF and De La Vega. I signed up for jump at the same time as getting the phone and so I don't know if that affects anything either.
Now I'm stuck deciding how to root,
If I root with CF I trip knox and void that but then I have the luxury if I want to flash something in the future thats not stock.
If I root with De La Vega, I keep knox and just keep it simple as far as the ROM goes.
What benefits are there to each method. Can I still upgrade when the time comes with either root method?
I want to make sure I do this right the first time.
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Moving over here from the S3 side. Holy crap what a difference! Sold on the Note 3 and all future Notes. I don't think I'll ever go back.
I've been reading over the Tmo Note 3 forums for the last week leading up to me getting the N3 last Friday. I want to root but I don't care too much for flashing roms anymore. I'm fine with stock for the most part. I went through hundreds of flashes on my S3 and ended up sticking with an Infamous TW ROM from April last year and could care less for 4.3 on the S3. All I want is the ability to remove the crap, install ViPER for android, remove the stupid start up and shutdown sounds, and install Xposes+Wanam for everything else that I want.
I luckily got a N3 that still has 4.3 on it, and I want to keep it that way for now. I know that there are two ways to root, CF and De La Vega. I signed up for jump at the same time as getting the phone and so I don't know if that affects anything either.
Now I'm stuck deciding how to root,
If I root with CF I trip knox and void that but then I have the luxury if I want to flash something in the future thats not stock.
If I root with De La Vega, I keep knox and just keep it simple as far as the ROM goes.
What benefits are there to each method. Can I still upgrade when the time comes with either root method?
I want to make sure I do this right the first time.
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Seems like you have a lot to consider. There has as you have read been a huge conversation on rather to trip Knox or not. Your choice. There are plenty of good 4.3 roms and 4.4.2 roms running on the 4.3 bootloader with fixes. You just have to decide on rooting or not to root.
I decided to keep it safe and go with UDLV. So far so good.
I use Kingo root because if anything happens to my Note 3 and I need to send it for repair, I want to be able to un-root.
I am not sure how to unroot if I root the phone with De La Vega, but when I had my Galaxy S4 Active, it was really a b*tch to unroot. I had to revert to the stock ROM (finding one is another story), but I believe if I do this with the Note 3, this may or may not trip Knox, but I am not taking any chances for a $650 gadget.
Anyways, just FYI.
Can build G920PVPU3CPD3 be rooted?
Which root method should I use?
Maverick923 said:
Can build G920PVPU3CPD3 be rooted?
Which root method should I use?
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Just install TWRP and flash SuperSU.
So there is noway to do this without tripping knox?
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No.
Let me add on a bit to my initial response. Rooting the phone will trip Knox. Has been this way for quite some time. Discussed across many thread here and elsewhere.
Now the question comes up as to what do you lose by tripping Knox? Samsung Pay will never work for you. Android Pay may or may not work. Many people have been able to get it working at least in part, but disable Root (via SuperSu) when using Android Pay. I don't use either of those, so I don't care.
Then the question comes up if this voids warranty. The answer is only if you say "Hey, I rooted my phone and then broke something!" If you need warranty for a physical defect, go back to stock via Odin and you shouldn't have a problem. If you root your phone and then install a ROM not meant for your phone or local (like a Note ROM or an international ROM) you are probably going to mess something up that will be immediately obvious. The solution is not to do that.
Realistically, there aren't a ton of great ROMs available for this phone and most are based on stock anyway. No CM13 as yet. If you can live with your phone un-Rooted, that might be the wisest choice.
That said, I rooted my phone as soon as I got it. I went the full route, didn't care about tripping Knox and still don't. I have run both Renegade and TeamSPR ROMs and have been happy with them.
Now you can decide what to do.
Or u could root ur phone n install xposed on it ... Rooted S6 stock rom is now compatible with xposed its better than any custom roms out there
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In my case, I only need temporary root. After that it maybe removed. So it would be nice to be able keep knox from being tripped if possible. Installing twrp is an additional step too that I would like to avoid again because it would serve no purpose since root would only be temporary. I also wanted to be sure that build G920PVPU3CPD3 could be rooted. Thanks for your input guys.