PS4 and Xperia smartphone interactivity “completely happening” says Sony
Sony has confirmed that there will be increased interactivity between Xperia devices and the PS4 following the PS4 release date later this year.
Complementing the PS4 and PS Vita Remote Play connectivity, Sony has been working to increase the second screen compatibility of Xperia devices as well.
Part of the One Sony philosophy, President of Sony Mobile North West Europe Pierre Perron has confirmed that the PlayStation and Xperia team have been collaborating on the PS4 and Xperia relationship.
“This is absolutely not only in the agenda, but it is completely happening,” said Perron. “Our engineers that are working on the user interface that we put into our phones are also offering their services when it is necessary to ensure that the PlayStation 4 is fully compatible in certain scenarios to be connected [to Xperia devices].”
When the PS4 release date rolls around, those looking to purchase the console and a Sony Xperia device like the newly launched Sony Xperia Z1 or Sony Xperia Tablet Z will be able to enjoy new compatibility between devices.
“We have established a platform that is now compatible with our phone and we are offering as part of this ‘Play’ entertainment experience that we provide. The One Sony experience is happening behind the curtains, it’s not something that is just claimed on the stage by our president [Kazuo Hirai], it’s definitely happening.”
Arriving in the UK on November 29, the PS4 will be priced at £349 and comes complete with the all-new DualShock 4 controller. It will go head-to-head with the Xbox One which will hit the UK one week earlier on November 22.
“You can actually connect your phone to the DualShock controller so you can play games on your phone, using the DualShock controller to talk to your phone,” added Catherine Cherry, Marketing Director of Sony Mobile North West Europe. ”Ideally then you can connect your phone to your TV via the HDMI out port. There’s already things happening.”
With mobile gaming on the rise, Sony is looking to increase gamers’ options for playing different titles.
“PlayStation 4 is about bringing the best gaming experience for the core gamers. This is the future for them, a super powerful device like PS4 that will deliver the best class in every which way.”
Read more at http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/...etely-happening-says-sony#7UFDOyKBUklmL6vb.99
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Can't wait for that to happen because right now USB gamepads and MHL can't work at the same time.
ScuzUK said:
Can't wait for that to happen because right now USB gamepads and MHL can't work at the same time.
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lol it will mean squat, have you tried connection your phone using MHL to a tv?? it's wayy too laggy to play fast games.. i tried Asphalt 8 and it had an anoying delay, and was not too smooth...
on the phone it works perfectly fine even with cpu limit set at 1.2Ghz...
The current dualshock3 will connect without USB (after initial pairing).
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shteren said:
lol it will mean squat, have you tried connection your phone using MHL to a tv?? it's wayy too laggy to play fast games.. i tried Asphalt 8 and it had an anoying delay, and was not too smooth...
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This is a bad news. Are you sure there is no way to do this?
MobileBritain said:
The current dualshock3 will connect without USB (after initial pairing).
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We know that. Its how it works.
eclyptos said:
This is a bad news. Are you sure there is no way to do this?
We know that. Its how it works.
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no idea...
thats just my experience... mybe it's a fault, but i did some googeling and all xperia devices report this behavior...
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no idea...
thats just my experience... mybe it's a fault, but i did some googeling and all xperia devices report this behavior...
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We should do a test. I think if you connect the phone via MHL to HDMI it's too much for him to processing the image because of high resolution. Maybe if we connect it via MHL cable to TV or any Screen via VGA connection will not have this behavior because VGA entrance do not request to much.
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We should do a test. I think if you connect the phone via MHL to HDMI it's too much for him to processing the image because of high resolution. Maybe if we connect it via MHL cable to TV or any Screen via VGA connection will not have this behavior because VGA entrance do not request to much.
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my old nokia N8 with a single 600 MHz cpu could deliver 720p on hdmi flawless.... including playing games, there is no hardware reason why Z1 beast should struggle... only bad software, hell, theres a good chance this phone has better cpu than my laptop!
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my old nokia N8 with a single 600 MHz cpu could deliver 720p on hdmi flawless.... including playing games, there is no hardware reason why Z1 beast should struggle... only bad software, hell, theres a good chance this phone has better cpu than my laptop!
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Actually you are right, so I hope it's a bad software.
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Actually you are right, so I hope it's a bad software.
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my old nokia N8 with a single 600 MHz cpu could deliver 720p on hdmi flawless.... including playing games, there is no hardware reason why Z1 beast should struggle... only bad software, hell, theres a good chance this phone has better cpu than my laptop!
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We should do a test. I think if you connect the phone via MHL to HDMI it's too much for him to processing the image because of high resolution. Maybe if we connect it via MHL cable to TV or any Screen via VGA connection will not have this behavior because VGA entrance do not request to much.
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no idea...
thats just my experience... mybe it's a fault, but i did some googeling and all xperia devices report this behavior...
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This is a bad news. Are you sure there is no way to do this?
We know that. Its how it works.
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lol it will mean squat, have you tried connection your phone using MHL to a tv?? it's wayy too laggy to play fast games.. i tried Asphalt 8 and it had an anoying delay, and was not too smooth...
on the phone it works perfectly fine even with cpu limit set at 1.2Ghz...
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And the answer is.... It's cable's fault it's not the software that limits it, it's not a resolution as our screen already is full HD just as TV, the size of pixel doesnt matter, and hardware of our phone is capable of 1080p screen mirroring just like lots of less powerfull processors. And I'm 100% sure about it, as I had some chinesse mhl cable that was lagging a lot, I googled it and found lots of people saying that it's because of ****te mhl cable so I bought a better one and... I finished asphalt 8, NFS Most wanted, modern warfare 3,4 and played other games on my tv without any lag. Just pay a bit more and get getter mhl cable, that will solve the problem
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Huge post my man, you will can avoid all the spaces, btw, thanks for the info, good to know.
gallardo5 said:
And the answer is.... It's cable's fault it's not the software that limits it, it's not a resolution as our screen already is full HD just as TV, the size of pixel doesnt matter, and hardware of our phone is capable of 1080p screen mirroring just like lots of less powerfull processors. And I'm 100% sure about it, as I had some chinesse mhl cable that was lagging a lot, I googled it and found lots of people saying that it's because of ****te mhl cable so I bought a better one and... I finished asphalt 8, NFS Most wanted, modern warfare 3,4 and played other games on my tv without any lag. Just pay a bit more and get getter mhl cable, that will solve the problem
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so which one did you but that works well?
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so which one did you but that works well?
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00CI42C4S/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1391783472&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165
A bit expensive but does the job much better thab chinesse cheap cables
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Thought this might interest owners and potential owners:
Incidentally, tried Splashtop after the video over 3G whilst out and about today - amazing! Watched a video with sound - playback was smooth. Hardly any lag via 3G in a reasonable coverage area. Also installed an antivirus to my laptop and did some other useful stuff while I was having a coffee at Bunnings - RDP on a 1280x800 screen is awesome.
I should be receiving a USB DAC in the coming week too, so will update as to whether that works or not...
UPDATE: USB DACs do NOT work with the USB OTG feature (as expected). Shame, because the cheapy one I got today sounds amazing compared to my laptop and desktops sound cards! The one I have is a HiFiMAN Express available from here for only $40. Not really for audiophiles, but for those who can appreciate better quality at a fraction of the price these are very good (I think Gizmodo linked to an audiophile review of them where he said they were 70% as good as the sound put out my a $400 sound card, not bad for what the HiFiMAN costs).
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Thought this might interest owners and potential owners:
Incidentally, tried Splashtop after the video over 3G whilst out and about today - amazing! Watched a video with sound - playback was smooth. Hardly any lag via 3G in a reasonable coverage area. Also installed an antivirus to my laptop and did some other useful stuff while I was having a coffee at Bunnings - RDP on a 1280x800 screen is awesome.
I should be receiving a USB DAC in the coming week too, so will update as to whether that works or not...
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sorry,
can you tell me what is the model of the gamepad you use?
Thanks.
Thank you very much for this post. This pretty much seals the deal for me. I will be grabbing one soon.
After watching your video, it looks like I need to find me a nice 20"-23" LED HDMI monitor to go with my Note.
Thank you for this awesome video.
Disappointed to the fact that USB hubs don't work, specially because someone in the forum answered me to this same question saying "yes"
In fact my question was if a SB keyboard and a USB mouse can work together using a USB hub.
Could you please confirm this case?
Thnks!
Pere said:
Thank you for this awesome video.
Disappointed to the fact that USB hubs don't work, specially because someone in the forum answered me to this same question saying "yes"
In fact my question was if a SB keyboard and a USB mouse can work together using a USB hub.
Could you please confirm this case?
Thnks!
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Hey there, sorry if it wasn't clear in the video - the hub itself works fine, its just that using the hubs external power source to power portable HDDs that the Note can't supply enough power to on its own doesn't work (it does in the SGSII). I presume that KB and Mouse would work together with a hub, but unfortunately I can't confirm as I don't own models that are compatible with the Note (or the SGSII).
If anyone in Auckland has some that are compatible I'd love to try this out for people.
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Hey there, sorry if it wasn't clear in the video - the hub itself works fine, its just that using the hubs external power source to power portable HDDs that the Note can't supply enough power to on its own doesn't work (it does in the SGSII). I presume that KB and Mouse would work together with a hub, but unfortunately I can't confirm as I don't own models that are compatible with the Note (or the SGSII).
If anyone in Auckland has some that are compatible I'd love to try this out for people.
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I can confirm that Keyboard and Mouse together work well on SGS2 using powered USB hubs, however its very unstable and sometimes freezes the phone. Hope it becomes better with ICS.
Do you mean that external HDD's can be powered by SGS2? I never thought its possible, seems I need to test that again as my HDD is NTFS formatted so wasn't recognized the last time I tried.
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I can confirm that Keyboard and Mouse together work well on SGS2 using powered USB hubs, however its very unstable and sometimes freezes the phone. Hope it becomes better with ICS.
Do you mean that external HDD's can be powered by SGS2? I never thought its possible, seems I need to test that again as my HDD is NTFS formatted so wasn't recognized the last time I tried.
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No, the SGSII can't supply external HDDs - I was saying that they do work with the SGSII when connected to a hub that has it's own power supply (that doesn't seem to work in the Note however...).
I don't own a hub but I was able to use a 120 gb external 2.5" USB hdd on the note with external power.
The hdd came with a y cable for additional power supply. I just used the note charger to supply power.
I had to format the hdd with fat32 of course. Win7 wouldn't do it, not with GUI and not on command line.
A app did it http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm.
Another thing was to make 1080p movies playable from the fat32 hdd. I used mkvtoolnix to split the movie into 4gb files.
https://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/
With diceplayer I was able to play them without any problems.
What resolution does your laptop run at? When I installed splashtop (phone version), I get set to 1024x720 resolution (looks crappy), while my home PC is 1600x1200. I wonder if splashtop HD would allow me to use the native resolution of my PC (1600x1200)? Any way to install HD apps on the Note?
I set my laptop to run at the same resolution as Splashtop when I'm not at home (otherwise it runs in 1080p).
Don't worry, Splashtop are working on a release version for HD phones (probably just an update to the phone Splashtop) and it'll be available soon - I've been in contact with them recently.
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I set my laptop to run at the same resolution as Splashtop when I'm not at home (otherwise it runs in 1080p).
Don't worry, Splashtop are working on a release version for HD phones (probably just an update to the phone Splashtop) and it'll be available soon - I've been in contact with them recently.
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Thanks for the info, Ill hold off on purchasing. Do you know if there is a way to install HD apps on the Note when the market states they are incompatible?
VTEChump said:
Thanks for the info, Ill hold off on purchasing. Do you know if there is a way to install HD apps on the Note when the market states they are incompatible?
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Not that I'm aware of as yet, some talented dev here needs to work it out for us!
UPDATE: USB DACs do NOT work with the USB OTG feature (as expected). Shame, because the cheapy one I got today sounds amazing compared to my laptop and desktops sound cards! The one I have is a HiFiMAN Express available from here for only $40. Not really for audiophiles, but for those who can appreciate better quality at a fraction of the price these are very good (I think Gizmodo linked to an audiophile review of them where he said they were 70% as good as the sound put out my a $400 sound card, not bad for what the HiFiMAN costs).
Thanks for this thread. Very good information.
But I think it's a bit annoying that it's not 'real' upscaled HD, but just the resolution of the Note (1280x800) being outputted to the screen.
I think Splashtop technically looks very good. But I don't like the security - it seems there is not any encryption in the software, not even the passwords!
What bandwidth does Splashtop require over a 3G connection to be stable? And how intelligent is the streamer to figure out which quality to stream in, in order to get the optimal dynamic stream without lag/pauses ?
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Thanks for this thread. Very good information.
But I think it's a bit annoying that it's not 'real' upscaled HD, but just the resolution of the Note (1280x800) being outputted to the screen.
I think Splashtop technically looks very good. But I don't like the security - it seems there is not any encryption in the software, not even the passwords!
What bandwidth does Splashtop require over a 3G connection to be stable? And how intelligent is the streamer to figure out which quality to stream in, in order to get the optimal dynamic stream without lag/pauses ?
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Not sure what bandwidth it requires over 3G for stability, I was in a reasonable reception area at the times I've used it over 3G - may have been the amount of bandwidth on offer but the experience was really great with minimal lag (bad upload for my PC at home is the rate limiting step here).
Must be some other Splashtop users here who can chime in?
Great video.
Does an ordinary usb keyboard work directly on the Note?
oronte said:
Great video.
Does an ordinary usb keyboard work directly on the Note?
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+1
And if keyboard layout is other than the English version, all the special signs (%&Ç@#) works correctly?
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. Do you know if there is a way to install HD apps on the Note when the market states they are incompatible?
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yes, just use an older version of Market - pull it from an old ROM. And freeze "market updater" in Tibu.
/system/app/Vending.apk
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Great video.
Does an ordinary usb keyboard work directly on the Note?
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Yes, they do, tried one today. Some USB mice also work, will try and connect both with the hub when I get home and see how that goes.
Will also revisit HDD connectivity too, as I have a second note Rooted with CF Root - possible that the drives weren't working because of Netchips kernel (in the same way that WiFi tether was broken).
Great video
Iwas surfing around for a page that ensures this device has definitely tv-out feature. I could not be sure for it, cause at most of the pages promoting galaxy note, it is not being said exactly..
Anyway, found here, and watched your video. now I want a galaxy note even 10 times more..
Thanks man, great job..
Has anybody experience with the LiveDock?
I've seen the Xperia spot about it and I was really fascinated, so I've ordered one.
Now I have the following questions:
What's about the USB Host? And which devices are supported?
And what's about the gaming part with the controller? Which controllers are working?
Source spot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VKIj6J6IX5g#!
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Has anybody experience with the LiveDock?
I've seen the Xperia spot about it and I was really fascinated, so I've ordered one.
Now I have the following questions:
What's about the USB Host? And which devices are supported?
And what's about the gaming part with the controller? Which controllers are working?
Source spot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VKIj6J6IX5g#!
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Hi,
I want to buy one for my Neo too and would like to know if someone already tested it.
Btw, can you please send me a PM telling where did you bought it?
Thanks.
dp94 said:
Has anybody experience with the LiveDock?
I've seen the Xperia spot about it and I was really fascinated, so I've ordered one.
Now I have the following questions:
What's about the USB Host? And which devices are supported?
And what's about the gaming part with the controller? Which controllers are working?
Source spot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VKIj6J6IX5g#!
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I'm getting one for xmas hopefully so I will tell youky views then so long as someone don't tell you . It is supposed to be the best thing if you play games or are a facebook fan or a massive web surfer. But you have to have all the gadgets to go with that. The HDMI cable, USB keyboard and mouse, games pad, ect.... So long as you have all that then it a must buy gadget. But if not then well.... It's useless really. For a dock just to show your clock or photos on the bedside unit then you might as well get a more simple one as they are cheaper. But if you are using it for the USB capability and the HDMI or pc screen ect...... Then definitely get it. Me I'm a hardcore gamer of Order & Chaos and NFS HP & Shift. So I want it for the control pad capabilities.
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I'm getting one for xmas hopefully so I will tell youky views then so long as someone don't tell you . It is supposed to be the best thing if you play games or are a facebook fan or a massive web surfer. But you have to have all the gadgets to go with that. The HDMI cable, USB keyboard and mouse, games pad, ect.... So long as you have all that then it a must buy gadget. But if not then well.... It's useless really. For a dock just to show your clock or photos on the bedside unit then you might as well get a more simple one as they are cheaper. But if you are using it for the USB capability and the HDMI or pc screen ect...... Then definitely get it. Me I'm a hardcore gamer of Order & Chaos and NFS HP & Shift. So I want it for the control pad capabilities.
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Do you know which USB keyboard or gamepads are supported?
Slightly off topic considering it has little to do with the HTC One X and more to do with Tegra 3... but: caught this little gem yesterday http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console
Basically it's a quad-core Tegra 3 board (I'm presuming it has the ninja core as well) with these features:
1GB of RAM
8GB of internal flash storage
HDMI connection to the TV, with support for up to 1080p HD
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth LE 4.0
USB 2.0 (one)
Wireless controller with standard controls (two analog sticks, d-pad, eight action buttons, a system button), a touchpad (add $30 per extra controller)
Android 4.0 < more Tegra 3 love in other words
And the price is $119 shipped! ($99 if you live in America, which I guess, considering the nature of the product that has brought us together, less of you guys do than is common for forums )
So I guess what this means for us (other than a pretty epic deal on a very cool gadget) is that there will be more Tegra 3-based games being developed in the future, and generally more Tegra 3-based Linux development! Congratulations everyone!
Cheap console, cheap games, good graphics - recipe for like Nintendo era again :good:
Oh man!
That thing is gonna be awesome!!
maybe one should throw 225$ at them!
Ouya gaming console raises $2 million on Kickstarter, doesn't know what to do with it
When we first detailed the Ouya $99 Android-based game console yesterday, we had a feeling it would become a hot property over at Kickstarter. But still, there's no way we anticipated this: the project has just raised $2 million in its first day, having sped past its initial $950,000 goal within a record-breaking 12 hours. Now, in an email to backers, the project has asked for feedback on its "stretch goals" -- in other words, what it should do if it makes even more cash and is able to set its sights on loftier ambitions. If you're a backer then check your email, if you're a potential backer then check the source link, and if you're a traditional VC then weep.
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just watched the video
very impressive effort
so now we have Nvidia's THD initiative, Nexus 7, PS Mobile and Ouya
who needs overclocked Mali
consider this, how many devices will be based on mali? vs how many containing T3? you do the math
If you ask me Nvidia low cost to the masses tegra policy seems to be working like magic
It reminds me of this article Tegra 3's Graphics: Untapped Potential?
Saw this yesterday from a gaming site, it looks impressive. Might pick one up just for an emulator fact.
If I'm correct they said this device came easy to root and install anything you wanted. I'm excited to see this run.
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Cheap console, cheap games, good graphics - recipe for like Nintendo era again :good:
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Honestly I think we can expect better graphics from this thing than the Wii! I'd like an ethernet port or 802.11ac WLAN though, 802.11n often isn't enough for 1080p content.
I saw this yesterday too. They hit their budget/investment requirement in hours! Its not a surprise as its a really really great idea if implemented well. People love gaming on tvs and since almost everyone owns one, picking up a console like this is very affordable. Its price beats most consoles on the market. Forget consoles, even Tegra3 smartphones such as the HOX and others.
On a side note good for gamers on the hox as it will definitely push the THD powered games market means more and better THD games on the market can possible come.
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Honestly I think we can expect better graphics from this thing than the Wii! I'd like an ethernet port or 802.11ac WLAN though, 802.11n often isn't enough for 1080p content.
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considering how its android,open source with a usb port and all....
you can add that in yourself... maybe not all by yourself but support will be there
death__machine said:
I saw this yesterday too. They hit their budget/investment requirement in hours! Its not a surprise as its a really really great idea if implemented well. People love gaming on tvs and since almost everyone owns one, picking up a console like this is very affordable. Its price beats most consoles on the market. Forget consoles, even Tegra3 smartphones such as the HOX and others.
On a side note good for gamers on the hox as it will definitely push the THD powered games market means more and better THD games on the market can possible come.
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there is one more important thing
T3 will not be left to dust unlike T2
TV consoles last for years and so no dev can simply neglect optimizing for it
if they collected backers this fast, imagine the sales for this thing
however i doubt they will hit their price point
they will also face another issue by the time this thing launches, T4 will start shipping and hence you have an outdated platfrom on day 1 and it won't keep up with the incredible pace of mobile
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they linked to this video from their spec list
i imagine Gameloft is starting to panick after all the hate they collected in Tegra3 owners
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considering how its android,open source with a usb port and all....
you can add that in yourself... maybe not all by yourself but support will be there
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Actually now that you mention it and I think more, it could be as small or basic as a Rasberry Pi PC with a little bit more. But thats taking the price into consideration. If they really aim at 99$ or so thats how I would do it.
A small device with basic functionality such as wifi(necessary as console gamers won't be downloading .apks and such they would buy directly from play store) output for tv and input for controllers. Obviously the mainboard and some memory and a few usb ports but nothing extra.
hamdir said:
there is one more important thing
T3 will not be left to dust unlike T2
TV consoles last for years and so no dev can simply neglect optimizing for it
if they collected backers this fast, imagine the sales for this thing
however i doubt they will hit their price point
they will also face another issue by the time this thing launchs, T4 will start shipping and hence you have an outed platfrom on day 1 and it won't keep up with the incredible pace of mobile
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I haven't really looked up on Tegra2 but you sound like it just died. Tegra3 on the other hand is a huge success imo. HOX, Nexus 7, Ouya, etc. like you mentioned. The Tegra3+ they plan to release won't be as successful imo.
Rekoil said:
Slightly off topic considering it has little to do with the HTC One X and more to do with Tegra 3... but: caught this little gem yesterday http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console
Basically it's a quad-core Tegra 3 board (I'm presuming it has the ninja core as well) with these features:
1GB of RAM
8GB of internal flash storage
HDMI connection to the TV, with support for up to 1080p HD
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth LE 4.0
USB 2.0 (one)
Wireless controller with standard controls (two analog sticks, d-pad, eight action buttons, a system button), a touchpad (add $30 per extra controller)
Android 4.0 < more Tegra 3 love in other words
And the price is $119 shipped! ($99 if you live in America, which I guess, considering the nature of the product that has brought us together, less of you guys do than is common for forums )
So I guess what this means for us (other than a pretty epic deal on a very cool gadget) is that there will be more Tegra 3-based games being developed in the future, and generally more Tegra 3-based Linux development! Congratulations everyone!
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Ninja Core xD
death__machine said:
Actually now that you mention it and I think more, it could be as small or basic as a Rasberry Pi PC with a little bit more. But thats taking the price into consideration. If they really aim at 99$ or so thats how I would do it.
A small device with basic functionality such as wifi(necessary as console gamers won't be downloading .apks and such they would buy directly from play store) output for tv and input for controllers. Obviously the mainboard and some memory and a few usb ports but nothing extra.
I haven't really looked up on Tegra2 but you sound like it just died. Tegra3 on the other hand is a huge success imo. HOX, Nexus 7, Ouya, etc. like you mentioned. The Tegra3+ they plan to release won't be as successful imo.
Ninja Core xD
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the 5th core can be used in a console differently to drive the UI and free the other cores for their main job
their release date is march
dunno its starting to feel we are going backwards after all the advancing we made with the PS3/Xbox360
why do we need this when the next gen is around the corner?
T3 makes sense in a mobile but as a console i dunno
I nearly brought this I even entered my details then cancelled.
This is why I wanted it- cheap and more than likely be worth more than the money you pay for it. It looks great.
The reason why I cancelled is yes games on my phone are great but personally I don't think they compare to a console.
I don't see a lot of devs making games expecially for this either. I just see this playing phone or tablet games on my tv.
I can do this already if I buy a cable for my phone and use a bluetooth controller.
I hope they do well as more tegra 3 games for us would be great
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I nearly brought this I even entered my details then cancelled.
This is why I wanted it- cheap and more than likely be worth more than the money you pay for it. It looks great.
The reason why I cancelled is yes games on my phone are great but personally I don't think they compare to a console.
I don't see a lot of devs making games expecially for this either. I just see this playing phone or tablet games on my tv.
I can do this already if I buy a cable for my phone and use a bluetooth controller.
I hope they do well as more tegra 3 games for us would be great
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yea my thoughts exactly
by the way the N7 doesnt have MHL support if i am correct?
This would have actually been a no brainer for gameloft if you think about it
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hamdir said:
the 5th core can be used in a console differently to drive the UI and free the other cores for their main job
their release date is march
dunno its starting to feel we are going backwards after all the advancing we made with the PS3/Xbox360
why do we need this when the next gen is around the corner?
T3 makes sense in a mobile but as a console i dunno
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I don't think ouya is really aiming at the hardcore gaming market, the Wii came around the same time as the Xbox 360 and the PS3, yet it wasn't nearly as good, that's because they went for the casual and younger gamer, and their needs are very likely both met and exceeded by the Tegra 3.
And yeah, 5th core could power background tasks like say a chat network similar to what Xbox live has.
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I nearly brought this I even entered my details then cancelled.
This is why I wanted it- cheap and more than likely be worth more than the money you pay for it. It looks great.
The reason why I cancelled is yes games on my phone are great but personally I don't think they compare to a console.
I don't see a lot of devs making games expecially for this either. I just see this playing phone or tablet games on my tv.
I can do this already if I buy a cable for my phone and use a bluetooth controller.
I hope they do well as more tegra 3 games for us would be great
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You do realise that you don't buy things on Kickstarter right, you fund projects, and your money wouldn't have been taken from your bank account until the 9th of August.
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This would have actually been a no brainer for gameloft if you think about it
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so far im puzzled as their attitude toward the T3
if you look at the A7 config files, its detecting the game as "medium_android" with almost everything off, not a single reference to tegra
its as if it doesn't exists
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I don't think ouya is really aiming at the hardcore gaming market, the Wii came around the same time as the Xbox 360 and the PS3, yet it wasn't nearly as good, that's because they went for the casual and younger gamer, and their needs are very likely both met and exceeded by the Tegra 3.
And yeah, 5th core could power background tasks like say a chat network similar to what Xbox live has.
You do realise that you don't buy things on Kickstarter right, you fund projects, and your money wouldn't have been taken from your bank account until the 9th of August.
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Err yeah duhhhh.
I pay $99 I get console that's all I care about I'm not in it for charity
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Err yeah duhhhh.
I pay $99 I get console that's all I care about I'm not in it for charity
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i would take the N7 instead with a blind eye but google shot it in the legs by removing MHL support
its just hit me! this thing will fly!
OnLive and this are a match made in heaven, but I think they need an Ethernet port
the more I think of it the more I feel tegra3 is just ingenious, yes the sgs3 processor is stronger and the snapdragon 4 is more efficient
but we r missing the point, t3 is ingenious because of its older process and low cost nature, as well as prism, direct touch, lp core and amazing media abilities
add to this a ready gaming centric SDK and u can see why they r selling them like hot cakes
as a whole t3 is the best solution out there, its unique, capable and well supported
I dont think qualcomm has a chance of catching up this round
when NV ceo answered we will release quad first and then devs will figure out how to u use it, he was spot on!
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its just hit me! this thing will fly! - ENGAGE BRAIN LESS BULL**** MODE SON!
OnLive and this are a match made in heaven, but I think they need an Ethernet port - YEA BUT ON LIVE IS **** I BETA TESTED IT
the more I think of it the more I feel tegra3 is just ingenious, yes the sgs3 processor is stronger and the snapdragon 4 is more efficient - MY GTX570 is more efficient!!!
but we r missing the point, t3 is ingenious because of its older process and low cost nature, as well as prism, direct touch, lp core and amazing media abilities - MY PC CAN PLAY ANYTHING
add to this a ready gaming centric SDK and u can see why they r selling them like hot cakes - I DONT NEED AND SKD TO DEVELOP FOR PC!
as a whole t3 is the best solution out there, its unique, capable and well supported - ITS NOT USE YOUR BRAIN
I dont think qualcomm has a chance of catching up this round - THEY DONT NEED TO
when NV ceo answered we will release quad first and then devs will figure out how to u use it, he was spot on!
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Dont be fukin stupid. Why would anyone buy a device which can do less than my PC, and less than my phone....
So I tried HDMI-out on my GN2 yesterday, and while I can see the potential (Sixaxis Controller + GTA3 = awesome), it was seriously laggy, to the point that most stuff was unplayable. In addition to the input lag, there was a noticeable amount of stutter that wasn't present on the phone's screen.
Anyone find a way to fix or improve this? Is this a hardware limitation, or something a new ROM could help fix (and if so is that something we'd need the Exynos source to fix?)?
Thanks.
skochw said:
So I tried HDMI-out on my GN2 yesterday, and while I can see the potential (Sixaxis Controller + GTA3 = awesome), it was seriously laggy, to the point that most stuff was unplayable. In addition to the input lag, there was a noticeable amount of stutter that wasn't present on the phone's screen.
Anyone find a way to fix or improve this? Is this a hardware limitation, or something a new ROM could help fix (and if so is that something we'd need the Exynos source to fix?)?
Thanks.
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It could be your cable. What are you using to connect to your TV? Also, does your TV have a Game Mode? Try turning that on if it does.
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It could be your cable. What are you using to connect to your TV? Also, does your TV have a Game Mode? Try turning that on if it does.
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I'm using this one: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...UTF8&qid=1358179914&sr=8-12&keywords=MHL+hdmi
Seems to have great reviews. I used it on a TV and also on my PC monitor, same results for both. It seems that this is an issue others have as well, as googling "galaxy note 2 hdmi lag" returns a few relevant results (but no solutions).
I'd happily pay for a nicer cable if I knew that was the issue, though..
Well the GS3 and Note 2 use an 11 pin connector. Older devices use 9 pin (I'm not exactly sure on those numbers). That could be your issue.
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ainen said:
Well the GS3 and Note 2 use an 11 pin connector. Older devices use 9 pin (I'm not exactly sure on those numbers). That could be your issue.
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Nope, I'm sure it's an 11 pin one. Pretty disappointing, I was looking forward to the desktop dock with USB and all that, but might say forget it if it's this laggy.
skochw said:
Nope, I'm sure it's an 11 pin one. Pretty disappointing, I was looking forward to the desktop dock with USB and all that, but might say forget it if it's this laggy.
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That is disappointing because I was looking forward to getting a smart dock at some point
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ainen said:
That is disappointing because I was looking forward to getting a smart dock at some point
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Same here. I was hoping to only have to fire up my desktop if I really needed to do something heavy-duty. Maybe someone else can chime in here with more input?
U need the actual 11 pin NHL adapter, the note 2 is not in the list of compatible devices
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The one I purchased specifically said 11-pin. I think if it wasn't an 11-pin adaptor, it wouldn't work at all. Problem is, it DOES work but is laggy.
From what I know for sure, beside an 11 pin NHL adapter, it requires a power cable connected to supply power during the time you stream stuff from your phone to TV, monitor, ...
This is the must.
ElpeePhablet said:
From what I know for sure, beside an 11 pin NHL adapter, it requires a power cable connected to supply power during the time you stream stuff from your phone to TV, monitor, ...
This is the must.
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Yup, I have a power cable connected. I think this is another thing that would make it just not work in the first place were it not set up right.
Since IOGEAR GWAVR is no where to find in EU and in Ebay cost to much. (shipp+tax). So Im gonna buy a cheap china miracast dongle instead. But which of so many miracast dongle does works with Note 2014?
Considering these cheaps one: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=miracast&_sop=15
But if any know where in EU does it sale IOGEAR GWAVR, that doesnt cost a fortune and I will buy it instead.
dt33 said:
Since IOGEAR GWAVR is no where to find in EU and in Ebay cost to much. (shipp+tax). So Im gonna buy a cheap china miracast dongle instead. But which of so many miracast dongle does works with Note 2014?
Considering these cheaps one: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=miracast&_sop=15
But if any know where in EU does it sale IOGEAR GWAVR, that doesnt cost a fortune and I will buy it instead.
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I am using Google Chrome cast. While i don't get the entire tablet on the screen I can watch any videos, pictures etc on my TV and it was 35 bucks at best buy. The video is pretty much all I cared about and it saved me some money doing it this way.
i search Taobao. Com ,there are a lot of options. The price is about 160 rmb (20-30 US dollars)
I'm using the action tech screen beam pro right now and its great. Watching one piece via S anime while writing this.
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xZAOx said:
I am using Google Chrome cast. While i don't get the entire tablet on the screen I can watch any videos, pictures etc on my TV and it was 35 bucks at best buy. The video is pretty much all I cared about and it saved me some money doing it this way.
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Chromecast doesnt support screen mirroring and maybe it will support it later.
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i search Taobao. Com ,there are a lot of options. The price is about 160 rmb (20-30 US dollars)
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The site is in chinese. >_>
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I'm using the action tech screen beam pro right now and its great. Watching one piece via S anime while writing this.
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Too expensive, cost over 100US to buy it and that is too much.
I just want stream live streams to TV and screen mirroring. Buy from ebay, takes around 1-2 months (if lucky an be faster) and dont want to wait if buy a none working with Note 2014.
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Chromecast doesnt support screen mirroring and maybe it will support it later.
The site is in chinese. >_>
Too expensive, cost over 100US to buy it and that is too much.
I just want stream live streams to TV and screen mirroring. Buy from ebay, takes around 1-2 months (if lucky an be faster) and dont want to wait if buy a none working with Note 2014.
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I know whet you looking but mine was 60 and I frequently see it for close to 40
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Ordered 24US dongle and see how it works out. Just need to wait few weeks for it to arrive. Last 2 packages from China, took less than 2 weeks and hopes this one too.
Galaxy Note SM-P605
dt33 said:
Ordered 24US dongle and see how it works out. Just need to wait few weeks for it to arrive. Last 2 packages from China, took less than 2 weeks and hopes this one too.
Galaxy Note SM-P605
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link?
Romokos said:
link?
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Its in mine first post and just pick u choice. Myself I picked this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-HD-108...U_MultiFormatMediaPlayers&hash=item25866d697c
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why not use transfer services ,so cheap
dt33 said:
Chromecast doesnt support screen mirroring and maybe it will support it later.
The site is in chinese. >_>
Too expensive, cost over 100US to buy it and that is too much.
I just want stream live streams to TV and screen mirroring. Buy from ebay, takes around 1-2 months (if lucky an be faster) and dont want to wait if buy a none working with Note 2014.
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Nice thread! I would like to learn a little more of this!
Please can someone share the experience ?
EZCast/ EZMirror ? iPush ? Some say can do miracast and airplay!
Can we have a dongle :
- HDMI and AV connection ?
- Mirror what's on our Android screen
- Mirror what's on iPhone screen
- Mirror PC/MAC
Thanks
Hi all,
My colleagues and I use this :
www.tinydeal.com/fr/hi763-miracast-dlna-airplay-wifi-display-dongle-for-smartphone-p-111836.html
It is compatible with Miracast, DLNA and AirPlay. I can mirror my android devices and computers screen (Wifi Display) and stream airplay on the TV.
Also, there are some little issue with some of custom roms. But with my SM-P600 (MK1) it works flawlessly.
MxCraft said:
Hi all,
My colleagues and I use this :
www.tinydeal.com/fr/hi763-miracast-dlna-airplay-wifi-display-dongle-for-smartphone-p-111836.html
It is compatible with Miracast, DLNA and AirPlay. I can mirror my android devices and computers screen (Wifi Display) and stream airplay on the TV.
Also, there are some little issue with some of custom roms. But with my SM-P600 (MK1) it works flawlessly.
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Thanks!
I read that some requires iPush to be downloaded from Play others EZCast/EZAir, is it the case for this dongle?
I've seen some youtube reviews and it seems that visualizing video the audio is a little lag from the image, is it common from this cheap dongles?
Anyone knows if there is any dongle with RCA analogue output instead of using an expensive HDMI-RCA converter ?
jpl69 said:
Thanks!
I read that some requires iPush to be downloaded from Play others EZCast/EZAir, is it the case for this dongle?
I've seen some youtube reviews and it seems that visualizing video the audio is a little lag from the image, is it common from this cheap dongles?
Anyone knows if there is any dongle with RCA analogue output instead of using an expensive HDMI-RCA converter ?
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Sorry, I don't really understand "some requires iPush to be downloaded from Play others EZCast/EZAir, is it the case for this dongle?". But I'm using the Note 10.1 2014 with the native mirroring service included. And on my computer I'm using the native wireless display of windows 8 (I have an Intel proc with an Nvidia video card). Some of my colleagues use iTunes for streaming on the dongle.
I've forgot to mention one thing. The dongle does not allow to receive all airplay, miracast, dlna on the same time. There is a little switch on the dongle for choosing the dlna or airplay mode.
My recommendation is to avoid all cheap chinese miracast dongles. Got mine from Ebay and it works like crap.
- Wifi streaming hangs all the time.
- Resolution works fine from beginning and suddenly it changed to a weird aspect ratio size and all is zoomed in on TV.
That dongle is collecting dust now.
UAU
I've decided to give a try and i'm just impressed! It was the cheapest i've found on ebay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371043321886?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Not only came well packed on an impressive case as it does exactly what it says!
Tried our Note 2014 (605), iphone 5S and a toshiba laptop.
I advise you to just look at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrzaLjA1EiiBiYR4VKCoZpA
It works just like on the videos.
@ jpl69
Does it work for movies and gaming? How the range?
For gaming, just forget. At least half second gap, to much for gaming.
I have everything in my room, router tv/dongle pc, android, iphone so the range is about 3m.
For movies, youtube is awsome.
jpl69 said:
For gaming, just forget. At least half second gap, to much for gaming.
I have everything in my room, router tv/dongle pc, android, iphone so the range is about 3m.
For movies, youtube is awsome.
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Do you need to use the EZcast app or you simply use the built-in screen mirroring function of the Note 2014?
You must use the EZCast , but just to trigger the mirror function on the device.