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This thread is about discussing ROMs, mostly reviewing, giving opinions and else. ~~~~~~~~~~~
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Hello Guys,
Many people using Android handset confused about making decision on which ROM they will be using for daily activities...
Before flashing they may take a look at others' reviews. The opinions about the ROM are usually posted under ROMs thread, so users can make better judgement before install it depending on what they want it to be. But on some cases, the reviews may not be perfectly honest sometimes on new developed ROMs which have a lot of bugs to at least appreciate the developers, and someone who've tested would rather say honestly in PMs. It's obliously pretty difficult for us to decide whether it's good enough or not. But sometimes, even new, they are good. Happens when the testers make complete review in posts of the ROM's thread.
Hail Open Source, Android lovers!
That is normal, so the users would trust the developers capability. If the bugs are clearly said in the thread, we still can assume that we need opinions. Because every person might say different about something. Nice screenshots aren't enough. In regular ROM thread, we have to search for opinions. No way every posts contained opinions.
Summary, most of the issues which have been said above just happened if the ROMs are still in development. Of course we could undoubtedly trust the proven ones. Issues that have been said above are mostly about newly developed ROMs.
So, to simplify searching and observing the ROMs (mostly the new-developed), we are making this thread. That's what we want to find here and discuss.
You are INVITED here to make reviews about ROM you are using with guides about what to flash and install or with another third party support to make it perfect enough.
Before Starting. . .
There are some points you should know about this thread: ~~~~~~~~~~~
~This thread is made for sharing about ROMs so people could know how and what to do to get a stable, smooth, and suitable ROMs for specific needs of every person. (Customized, Performance-boosted, etc)
~ YOU ARE INVITED to post your experience about specific ROMs in the compilation, and things that might boost performance which added, like Kernels, Fixes or maybe Scripts. But you may suggest unlisted ROM to be published. The post mainly talks about ROMs and the added things like boost are just for supporting the ROMs' capability. YOUR POSTS will be posted below the compilation of ROMs listed (if attractive and important enough, may contained information guides, etc.) The compilation may be limited (it will not be as much as regular compilation of ROMs because it just is including ROMs of Most Users. No kernels. Nothing other than ROMs.) Opinions could be helping. Explanation required. Posted updated at a period of time.
~Before posting, you are expected to read the rules and understand it. Then implement when posting. We expect your obedience for the neatness of the thread.
Here are the rules:
Here are the basic rules, additions will be added if necessary:
»»» The post should obey the Xda Forum Rules. «««
»»» The post shouldn't be offense others, you can say disagree for others' opinions but please make sure the words are good enough to be read and fulfill the politeness. «««
»»» Please post facts, so people will not confuse whether it's real or not. «««
»»» The discussion is expected to be according to the topic. «««
»»» Opinions are the major main problem expected by many people, so don't hesitate yourself by not saying it. It won't be considered spamming at all, we need THIS to be stickied! «««
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Our object of discussion is. . . Gio!
Gio, as middle devices, has gotten upgrade from Froyo to Gingerbread, and the ported developed ICS rom still seems pretty difficult to be used for daily activities because the problems of camera, and else...
Example, the Cyan9.0, people who want to install it may not know if the camera is not working if they miss the detailed bugs. And because of reading reviews the may know it well. Even though after knowing they might install without any hesitation. But overall, the ROM is perfect enough in stability and everyone has been using it.
And still, this device has many ways in order to make good performance for various user needs.
So? So? So? !?
Let's share all things to make the handset stable and smooth!
REVIEWS AND OPINIONS
Basically we're helping each other to build better ROM.
Because even a genius needs others' helps. . .
So why don't we help if we could.
So let's get started by the compilation.
Here are what the most users would have:
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Good Day!.
I create this thread not only for me
but for all P350 users.
Because of too many Custom Roms
made by Diff. Developers.
Some of the users really confused.
they always ask, what is the best rom?
Thats why i created this thread to help
others to choose their rom
and get some information to
the others who have experience their roms.
you can vote using poll or
you can rply on this thread.
and answer this question.
"-What is the best rom for you? Why?"
SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH
This thread and poll have been closed
While many of you believe a poll like this might be useful, I do not want things like this to become a popularity contest for ROMs. All ROMs are different and people want different things in their ROMs. While I believe it's useful to compare and contrast the good and bad in all the different ROMs, polls like this are not. Please encourage all developers to pursue their projects and support them if you like their work. Don't let things like this discourage their efforts because they didn't get as many votes as other developers.
If you have any thoughts and concerns about this moderating decision, feel free to send me a PM.
Is it possible for someone to make a thread about ROM and Kernel benchmarking and comparisons, and make that thread sticky?
A lot of threads like this has come and gone, but I think something revolving around this idea should be kept open and accessible for improvement purposes.
Here are a couple of my ideas:
1. There should be a poll in the thread, which is updated and contains all active ROMs and Kernels
2. All poll stats and old reply posts should be wiped every 2 weeks/ 1 month
3. All voters are expected to leave SMART comments about their vote choice and have actually tried and tested a LOT of ROMs already
4. All developers for ROMs and Kernels should provide a link to this thread, and ask their patronizers to vote and leave comments about their ROMs there.
5. Mods should regularly check the thread for spam posts and delete them.
6. If possible there should be a ROM+Kernel combination which will be awarded "ROM and Kernel" of the week/month.
This is a serious suggestion!
Some positive outcomes of this are:
1. Since its' basically come down to a competition, developers will be ever more diligent in updating their work, making it possible for them to be encouraged to make better ROMs.
2. Many newcomers may come in and "try" to join in on the "competition". (More new devs, and not the poser-kind)
3. Galaxy Younger's can easily have a benchmark on which ROM is currently top notch, especially with the monthly/weekly award.
4. xda's SGY community might possibly increase in population.
5. There is a possibility that some ROM critics might be born out of the process, taking android development into a whole new tier.
This thread that I suggested isnt easy to manage, so someone who has a lot of free time and technical know-how should handle it. It also might be biased for just anybody to make it, so preferably it has to be an admin or moderator. I know this could be asking for a lot, but it may make SGY one of the best sections on xda.
Thanks for writing this up and I too agree with you!
Such a thread coupled with brief user reviews as comments will help a lot of people decide which rom suits them!
Btw y don't you start the thread we can ask captain to make it sticky if thats okay!
great idea but unfortunately only mods have the ability to wipe posts, modify polls and move / edit stuffs,
so it would cause xda a high upkeep
U need some supportes..
I am here...
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+1 from me too
Good suggestion
May Allah Bless U All...
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I'm looking for a stable 4.4 which would be as stable as possible. The reason for this is that I use my Nexus for alarm clock and it's really unpleasant if I find it in SOD when I oversleep. I don't really need so much additional features, it's a bonus though, but it's more important that it's fast and bugless.
Are there any or should I stay on Cataclysm 4.3?
Well, you can only reliably know which ROM is the most stable by trying them yourself. That's part of the culture of XDA, to try ROMs from different developers and then to give feedback on them.
As for me, I just installed the latest CM11 nightly and it seems reasonably stable. Will test the battery life and stability for a few more days after installing some apps. Will try XenonHD next if this one isn't stable enough or has poor battery life. The phone does get hot when I'm running heavy applications and games, which is the only problem I have noticed so far.
Im running the CM11 Nightlies as well and cant complain at all. Havent had any issues with any of them. I usually update every couple days to the latest nightly.
If it's just using the device as an alarm, then CM11 nightlies would be quite enough. I've been using my own GNex as an alarm too.
Sent from Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE @ CM11
I've read through several ROM threads that a lot of them have have slowdowns and lags. Is that also the case for CM11? How about other CM based ROMs, like CM-remix?
Can't say much about other roms (aside from CM i've only ever tried AOKP jb-mr2 briefly), i'm on CM11 M2 right now and i can say it's smooth and has no hiccups and lags - much better than stock 4.3 and cm10.2 which i had beforehand.
I'm also using the device as an alarm clock and it works well.
Seriously? How many times do people have to be told that threads like this are against XDA rules. If you want a stable rom then try some roms out yourself and decide what you prefer for yourself. This is a development community meant for people that want to take the initiative to learn and do for themselves not a place for people to have others do their work for them.
Do some reading and you'll surely find the answers you seek.
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I'm looking for a stable 4.4 which would be as stable as possible.
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me too. cant find anything. CM blows, pa has graphics glitches and vanir gives me reboots.
tried em all and they all seem to suck.
4.3 is waaaay smoother for me.
a stock 4.4.2 build would be great.
if anyone finds any decent roms + a good 4.4 kernel (Franco/Faux) or two let me know.
Nephilim, sorry, I thought that it's forbidden to open only general ROM comparison threads, but I'm asking only for the ideas of pretty specific needs. You could also take this thread as a discussion if 4.4 ROMs in general are really stable enough for everyday use.
Not all of us have time to test every build of every ROM, because it would take a bit too much. That's why we have a community here to ask others for their opinion and experiences. At least that's how I imagine it, but of course, I might be wrong.
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not a place for people to have others do their work for them
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what is your problem anyway ?
since when is illegal to ask for some information ? i was also curious for some information about custom roms and i stumbled upon the same message from you several times
if i ask for any useful information.....am i automatically a lazy who prefers to have others do my work ?
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what is your problem anyway ?
since when is illegal to ask for some information ? i was also curious for some information about custom roms and i stumbled upon the same message from you several times
if i ask for any useful information.....am i automatically a lazy who prefers to have others do my work ?
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No it isnt illegal. But these threads are pointless... There is no best ROM so these threads will never be solved/answered. And the devs work hard to build a ROM and then some people in a thread will tell him his ROM sucks and the other one is better.. Its personal preference anyway. And every ROM is stable otherwise they wouldnt be released on xda (except when told otherwise or in beta etc.). Thats the whole point. There are tons of these threads. They are just useless. Just try out a ROM and if it suits your needs be happy and thank the developer and if you arent just move on to the next one.
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No it isnt illegal. But these threads are pointless... There is no best ROM so these threads will never be solved/answered. And the devs work hard to build a ROM and then some people in a thread will tell him his ROM sucks and the other one is better.. Its personal preference anyway. And every ROM is stable otherwise they wouldnt be released on xda (except when told otherwise or in beta etc.). Thats the whole point. There are tons of these threads. They are just useless. Just try out a ROM and if it suits your needs be happy and thank the developer and if you arent just move on to the next one.
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acknowledged, thank you
iconicpaul said:
what is your problem anyway ?
since when is illegal to ask for some information ? i was also curious for some information about custom roms and i stumbled upon the same message from you several times
if i ask for any useful information.....am i automatically a lazy who prefers to have others do my work ?
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My problem is that if you aren't willing to put in the work and try roms yourself you have no business on a development forum. Asking others is just looking for someone else to do the work for you. Threads like this are basically spam because any info you need can be found in the threads made for each rom. If you are asking in a thread like this you are definitely lazy because you obviously dont want to put in the effort of finding the information by reading the rom threads. Mrgnex pretty much said the rest.
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ParanoidAndroid 4 BETA
I'm using an edited version of ParanoidAndroid 4 BETA. The official beta has some graphical issues and random freezes, but the edited version is very stable with no problems at all. It's based on Android 4.4.2. Give it a try: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2589481
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My problem is that if you aren't willing to put in the work and try roms yourself you have no business on a development forum. Asking others is just looking for someone else to do the work for you. Threads like this are basically spam because any info you need can be found in the threads made for each rom. If you are asking in a thread like this you are definitely lazy because you obviously dont want to put in the effort of finding the information by reading the rom threads. Mrgnex pretty much said the rest.
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I'd fully agree with your comments, IF this thread was posted in development section, but it's not, it's in the GENERAL section.
So I don't see why NORMAL users(AKA non-flashaholics) can't freely discuss which ROM they prefer, regardless of stability.
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I've tried out a lot of different/newer ROM's from 4.1 to 4.4.2 yet every time I've still went back to using PA 4.1.2 for over a year now, since no other ROM have the exact same great features I enjoy using daily.
Also I don't see why any Developer would really care if certain people dislike their ROM's, seeing as the whole reason they created one would be because they disliked the other ROM's available and wanted to build one them selves to their liking, many using the same features from other developers, just with their own tweaks.
Which is what I'm thinking I'll have learn to do since every ROM I've tested has some feature that's just not working as I'd like.
You suggesting every user go and test out every ROM just means there will be more individual threads created complaining about every ROM they flash/test.
So don't you think it's better to have 1 or 2 main ROM version threads in the GENERAL section to DISCUSS different individual Rom's in the GENERAL matter?
In other words if you don't really have anything to help out in the thread topic/discussion then just don't view it.
I personally enjoy reading about what others have to say, likely saving me time and headache from having to test out every Rom's myself.
I very much doubt there would be as many Rom's available as there are today if nobody discussed them.
Wasn't that the whole point of having an open sourced android OS?
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I'd fully agree with your comments, IF this thread was posted in development section, but it's not, it's in the GENERAL section.
So I don't see why NORMAL users(AKA non-flashaholics) can't freely discuss which ROM they prefer, regardless of stability.
BTW
I've tried out a lot of different/newer ROM's from 4.1 to 4.4.2 yet every time I've still went back to using PA 4.1.2 for over a year now, since no other ROM have the exact same great features I enjoy using daily.
Also I don't see why any Developer would really care if certain people dislike their ROM's, seeing as the whole reason they created one would be because they disliked the other ROM's available and wanted to build one them selves to their liking, many using the same features from other developers, just with their own tweaks.
Which is what I'm thinking I'll have learn to do since every ROM I've tested has some feature that's just not working as I'd like.
You suggesting every user go and test out every ROM just means there will be more individual threads created complaining about every ROM they flash/test.
So don't you think it's better to have 1 or 2 main ROM version threads in the GENERAL section to DISCUSS different individual Rom's in the GENERAL matter?
In other words if you don't really have anything to help out in the thread topic/discussion then just don't view it.
I personally enjoy reading about what others have to say, likely saving me time and headache from having to test out every Rom's myself.
I very much doubt there would be as many Rom's available as there are today if nobody discussed them.
Wasn't that the whole point of having an open sourced android OS?
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First of all, threads like this would not be constantly deleted by Senior Moderators if they were allowed. Next, I never once said that everyone should go and try every rom. I said that people need to go to the rom threads and READ, if the rom seems like something they would like to try then they should flash it, if not move onto another rom. Next, after flashing the said rom they are trying they can READ the thread pertaining to said rom to find answers to their questions.
You see where I am going here?
There is NO REASON for threads like this. All the information anyone could need can be found in the rom threads. If an individual needs to make a thread like this it just says that they are too lazy to read all the information that is already provided in multiple threads, available to everyone. If you want to discuss a rom then make a community on Google+, I already have done the same. This site is called XDA Developers. If you have questions about a rom then read the thread about the rom and if you do not see the question you have already asked then go ahead and ask it.
If you want to make a thread here in the general section to discuss a rom you have already flashed and are running, that would not be a big issue either but..... Making a thread simply to ask others to tell you which rom is most stable or which rom is the best serve no purpose but to congest areas of XDA with useless spam.
If you are here, you have either rooted your device or plan to, either way if you are here for that then you have enough brains to read and gain knowledge the correct way by doing the legwork yourself.
If the amount of effort you put into trying to debate my legitimate reasons why this thread does not belong was put into discovering roms for yourself then there would never be a need for anyone to make a thread like this.
Bottomline, only lazy people make threads like this and XDA is for forum for adults seeking to enhance their knowledge of mobile development by way of contribution, not a G+ community to request everyone do your work for you while you sit around posting screenshots of your homescreen and icon theme.
Not a thing anyone responds to me with will justify these type of useless threads. Every way you can learn what you need about roms has been mentioned in my posts and none of them require an entire thread dedicated to asking others to give you the answers.
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First of all, threads like this would not be constantly deleted by Senior Moderators if they were allowed. Next, I never once said that everyone should go and try every rom. I said that people need to go to the rom threads and READ, if the rom seems like something they would like to try then they should flash it, if not move onto another rom. Next, after flashing the said rom they are trying they can READ the thread pertaining to said rom to find answers to their questions.
You see where I am going here?
There is NO REASON for threads like this. All the information anyone could need can be found in the rom threads. If an individual needs to make a thread like this it just says that they are too lazy to read all the information that is already provided in multiple threads, available to everyone. If you want to discuss a rom then make a community on Google+, I already have done the same. This site is called XDA Developers. If you have questions about a rom then read the thread about the rom and if you do not see the question you have already asked then go ahead and ask it.
If you want to make a thread here in the general section to discuss a rom you have already flashed and are running, that would not be a big issue either but..... Making a thread simply to ask others to tell you which rom is most stable or which rom is the best serve no purpose but to congest areas of XDA with useless spam.
If you are here, you have either rooted your device or plan to, either way if you are here for that then you have enough brains to read and gain knowledge the correct way by doing the legwork yourself.
If the amount of effort you put into trying to debate my legitimate reasons why this thread does not belong was put into discovering roms for yourself then there would never be a need for anyone to make a thread like this.
Bottomline, only lazy people make threads like this and XDA is for forum for adults seeking to enhance their knowledge of mobile development by way of contribution, not a G+ community to request everyone do your work for you while you sit around posting screenshots of your homescreen and icon theme.
Not a thing anyone responds to me with will justify these type of useless threads. Every way you can learn what you need about roms has been mentioned in my posts and none of them require an entire thread dedicated to asking others to give you the answers.
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I would respectfully disagree. Not everyone has followed the entire course of development for the Galaxy Nexus from the beginning. It is hard to know where to start if you are just now reading up on things (as I am). People are trying to do their research otherwise they would just flash any old thing and then complain when nothing works.
In many other fields (I work in biology) it is very common to have a review article to get people up to speed on a specific topic without them having to read every primary piece of evidence on a topic because that is a lot of needless repetitive work that has already been done. It isn't being lazy. It is being efficient.
I stumbled upon this thread and found it to be EXACTLY what I was looking for and very relevant. Just a quick guide to let me know if it was worth looking into kitkat roms or if (as I suspected) I should stick with Jelly Bean roms for now since stability is also my primary goal. I can't understand the hostile nature towards people trying to educate themselves that seems to permeate xda sometimes...
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I would respectfully disagree. Not everyone has followed the entire course of development for the Galaxy Nexus from the beginning. It is hard to know where to start if you are just now reading up on things (as I am). People are trying to do their research otherwise they would just flash any old thing and then complain when nothing works.
In many other fields (I work in biology) it is very common to have a review article to get people up to speed on a specific topic without them having to read every primary piece of evidence on a topic because that is a lot of needless repetitive work that has already been done. It isn't being lazy. It is being efficient.
I stumbled upon this thread and found it to be EXACTLY what I was looking for and very relevant. Just a quick guide to let me know if it was worth looking into kitkat roms or if (as I suspected) I should stick with Jelly Bean roms for now since stability is also my primary goal. I can't understand the hostile nature towards people trying to educate themselves that seems to permeate xda sometimes...
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Apparently you have not read a word of what I posted.
There is NO reason for these type of posts because all the information you seek on a rom or kernel is in their respective thread. Even if you do not want to use them you still have all the review you need from people on the thread that actually used the rom or kernel, these threads are a copout for lazy people that do not take the time to read where the information is already easily accessible. These types of threads are spam, they are made by people who come to XDA and do not even put a second of time into looking through threads before just expecting that posting a new thread and asking about what is the best will get them all the info they need without any effort.
I have said this many times already, In school, when you have a test or assignment, does your teacher give that test or assignment to you and then immediately hand over the answers? Hell no they don't, they expect you to research and study to find the answers. As adults that is what should be done here as well, otherwise you ultimately learn nothing.
I use the official 4.4.2 gummy build and it is very stable for me and have not encountered any issues.
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I am using VanirAOSP. Its very fast and also stable!
I want to install a custom sense based rom. So my question is which is the best (less bloatware, smooth, light etc) sense based rom for htc one M8? ????
This is going to become a comparison thread once discussion starts. It will thus lead to no end. Just try them out one after another and decide for yourself.
Btw.: as far as I know such kind of comparison threads aren't very welcome.
5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
This is going to become a comparison thread once discussion starts. It will thus lead to no end. Just try them out one after another and decide for yourself.
Btw.: as far as I know such kind of comparison threads aren't very welcome.
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They changed the forum rules fairly recently (just this year) to allow such ROM discussions. So such threads aren't against the rules exactly. But I'm with you, they don't serve much purpose (nor am I crazy about that rule change). The OP may get some ROM recommendations, and that is the most they can hope for. The worst that can happen, is it descends into a popularity contest, pissing contest, etc.
To the OP, quite simply there is no such thing as a "best ROM". The opinion of "best ROM" from others is not that valuable. The reason I say that: what works best for you, may not for someone else, and vice versa. It depends on your own specific needs, preferences, etc. One prime example, is bloatware (as you mentioned): what one person considers useless bloat, another may consider a valuable app. Along similar lines, performance is a very subjective thing.
There are already a number of similar threads, with some recommendations; if you bother to look. But I'm with the previous response. Look through the ROM threads, which in the huge majority of cases, do a good job of describing the ROM features (plus any issues, comments by users, etc.). Pick a couple that look good to you, and try them for yourself. See what works best for you.