I can't post to the Windows 8 or Surface forum, but I updated the Feburary (2/12) Microsoft updates to my Surface RT and the jailbreak no longer works, it looks like they "fixed" it. Blue screens on each attmept to run
Seems going directly to preview.windows.com doesn't work any more, as MS has pulled the file download from the site. For what purpose, I don't really know.
So I have been busy all summer and missed out on the RT 8.1 preview, which I finally decided to go for today. However, preview.windows.com simply states "Windows RT 8.1 Preview is not available", stating "the preview is no longer available."
I know it's only a month(ish) until full 8.1 comes out, but now i'm trying to figure out how to get 8.1 on it via other means. I know it's through the store - but it's triggered by a small file download. (an msu i think?)
Does anyone have a mirror of the .msu or has it locally? Or is there another way to try and force the preview to pull down? I thought maybe an 8.1 recovery file would work as well, but I haven't found any of those either. I'd really like to try to get my hands on this.
The preview has ended because 8.1 has been released to manufacturing.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
The preview has ended because 8.1 has been released to manufacturing.
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I understand that but it's a stupid reason, companies still need to test RT devices before October.
brad1825 said:
I understand that but it's a stupid reason, companies still need to test RT devices before October.
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That is not the purpose of the preview builds.
The preview is intended for developers to ensure their software still works with 8.1. It also serves as public testing. It is not intended for consumers or businesses to go "hey whats 8.1 gonna be like", that is what the microsoft demonstration stands are for at various public events (of which I attended one yesterday).
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Seems going directly to preview.windows.com doesn't work any more, as MS has pulled the file download from the site. For what purpose, I don't really know.
So I have been busy all summer and missed out on the RT 8.1 preview, which I finally decided to go for today. However, preview.windows.com simply states "Windows RT 8.1 Preview is not available", stating "the preview is no longer available."
I know it's only a month(ish) until full 8.1 comes out, but now i'm trying to figure out how to get 8.1 on it via other means. I know it's through the store - but it's triggered by a small file download. (an msu i think?)
Does anyone have a mirror of the .msu or has it locally? Or is there another way to try and force the preview to pull down? I thought maybe an 8.1 recovery file would work as well, but I haven't found any of those either. I'd really like to try to get my hands on this.
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Yep, it's a MSU file and you can still get it here:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=302157 (x64)
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=302158 (x86)
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=302159 (ARM)
However, I just installed it on my SurfaceRT, rebooted and it's still not showing up in the store.
I'm pretty sure Microsoft pulled it from the Store.
ISO files still available from
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-8/preview-iso
I'm in the same boat. I just bought a Surface RT for my mom, only to discover that the 8.1 Preview is "not available" anymore. I was counting on it because my mom insists on having Outlook. Now, I have to either successfully convince her to use Windows Mail for two months or re-sell the device.
This is such a dumb decision by Microsoft. They're desperate to sell off their still-large inventory of 1st-gen Surface RTs (see the $150 price drop, as well as the $50 drop on the Touch Cover), and, yet, the devices are actually less attractive now than they were just a week ago. It wouldn't have hurt them any to continue offering the RT 8.1 Preview until mid-October, but pulling it now will hurt them a little. You really have to wonder what Microsoft is thinking.
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The preview has ended because 8.1 has been released to manufacturing.
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The preview is still available for x64 and x86 architectures and in over a dozen languages (see the link just above). It's only the RT 8.1 Preview that has been pulled. I can't think of any valid rationale for that. If it has something to do with the Surface RT 2 coming, it still doesn't make sense, since the 1st-gens have to be sold eventually (and they'll only get less profitable) and will be freely upgraded to 8.1, anyways.
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ISO files still available from
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-8/preview-iso
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ISOs are available for x64 and x86, not for ARM (RT). When you visit the page on RT, you get the "Windows RT 8.1 Preview is not available" message.
I am totally lost as to how this hurts microsoft?
THE PREVIEW IS NOT FOR CONSUMERS - IE YOU GUYS.
So they pull something not even intended for you guys to use it and you say this hurts microsoft? Hurts you perhaps but not microsoft. They have the real 8.1 in the pipe.
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I am totally lost as to how this hurts microsoft?
THE PREVIEW IS NOT FOR CONSUMERS - IE YOU GUYS.
So they pull something not even intended for you guys to use it and you say this hurts microsoft? Hurts you perhaps but not microsoft. They have the real 8.1 in the pipe.
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If you're just going to effectively shout at other users, I'm not going to bother to answer your questions or correct the multiple false assertions that you've made in this thread. I'm not even sure why you're here, since you're not helping with the problem any.
actually, I heard 8.1 doesn't work very well
but anyway, I am really looking forward to 8.1
You cannot update windows 8.1 preview to the 8.1 release version by the way.
Dude, seriously, calm down a bit.
1) The RT preview is supposed to be upgradable to RTM.
2) Pulling the RT preview so long before general availability is, in fact, stupid; how are third-party developers (like, you know, the target audience of this web forum) supposed to test their 8.1 apps unless they already upgraded?
3) While not intended for general usage and having multiple known issues, the 8.1 preview is certainly usable by the general public. It might not be the greatest idea, but still, it's better to have the option than to not have it. Removing that option removes a reason for people to buy RT right now.
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brad1825 said:
I understand that but it's a stupid reason, companies still need to test RT devices before October.
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SixSixSevenSeven said:
That is not the purpose of the preview builds.
The preview is intended for developers to ensure their software still works with 8.1. It also serves as public testing. It is not intended for consumers or businesses to go "hey whats 8.1 gonna be like", that is what the microsoft demonstration stands are for at various public events (of which I attended one yesterday).
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Chill out dude.
I am a professional developer, own a software company and happen to be a Microsoft Partner.
That's exactly why I need this, to test software.
For anyone else, it looks like the RT version just leaked online within the last 24hours.
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Hey, I recently got a Vivotab Rt TF600TL, which runs windows rt. And I hate windows, but since it was a present, I don't really wanna sell it. I researched about installed android into it and couldn't find one, there are some for other vivotabs that are already androids. So is there a way to install android, on a Vivotab Rt specifically for TF600TL. Thanks
Depends on if there's a recognized signature for the bootloader. But the short answer is "almost certainly not possible"
Dam that's a pitty, oh well. I guess I'll just use Windows.
I have been trying to find out any definitive info on what I can and cant do with my surface. Im hoping that I can install something other than Wins 8 RT. It has not looked hopeful in the past, I was given the device as a promo training gift 3 years ago. Im tired of the neutered and damn near useless ness of this tablet. Im looking to install ubuntu or an android flavor of some sort.
As far as I know from scouring the web. Nothing as far as dual booting with an alternate OS is viable at this point. Everything has come to a halt. Surface and the RT OS is basically the Apple Powerbook of the x86 side of the world now.
In my opinion Windows RT 8.0 with the jailbreak is about as good as it's going to get (though there might finally be the possibility of an 8.1 jailbreak). I don't know if you've tried the jailbreak (not sure if you have an original Surface RT or the Surface 2) but for me it filled in most of what I was missing on RT, and has kept the device useful.
It is unfortunate that installing a non-Microsoft OS isn't possible.
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In my opinion Windows RT 8.0 with the jailbreak is about as good as it's going to get (though there might finally be the possibility of an 8.1 jailbreak). I don't know if you've tried the jailbreak (not sure if you have an original Surface RT or the Surface 2) but for me it filled in most of what I was missing on RT, and has kept the device useful.
It is unfortunate that installing a non-Microsoft OS isn't possible.
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Would be great to install linux in this tablet
I found a link with this method. Does anyone else know if this is actually doable or works? And could this apply to a windows RT tablet like the 2520?
makeuseof.com/tag/install-android-windows-8-tablet
There are times I would like to elements or apps from andoid on my windows tablet and am also looking for a dual boot solution.
rman99 said:
I found a link with this method. Does anyone else know if this is actually doable or works? And could this apply to a windows RT tablet like the 2520?
makeuseof.com/tag/install-android-windows-8-tablet
There are times I would like to elements or apps from andoid on my windows tablet and am also looking for a dual boot solution.
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Unfortuanately your answer is in the article you mentioned:
Although the process of installing Android on your Windows tablet – and by this I’m specifically referring to an Intel x86 device here rather than one equipped with an ARM processor (such as the Microsoft Surface RT) – will differ from device to device, the general approach is the same.
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It is talking about Windows 8 tablets, i.e. x86 devices. RT devices unfortunately have a locked bootloader, and so far no one has found a way around that, nor have OEMs released anything to unlock them, so RT devices are pretty much stuck. I hate the fact that Microsoft made that a requirement for RT devices.
I wasted my money on a Surface RT. If Microsoft had updated the platform to Windows 10 with universal apps they would have restored my faith in their hardware. Never again. Now for AMD to release a proper tablet SOC that I can actually play games on.
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Hi everyone,
since win10 arm32 is slow on surface rt from what i saw on the forums.
is there a hope for win10x to be installed in surface rt once it is released in the spring?
is this idea is already dead or there is a hope ?
Nope - never going to happen.
Microsoft stopped building ARM32 Windows a long time ago. There is no reason why they would start building for ARM32 again.