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[Question] Kindle Fire is possibly dead.

Guys,
Details: Using Windows 7 64 bits, on a notebook.
Here is the full history of my brand new brick... call me stupid.
Second day with my Kindle Fire, I tryed to root my kindle fire.
Downloaded the KFU 0.9.5, instaled the drivers.
But the KFU wasn't workig... I only was getting the ADB offline status and the "waiting for device" message.
When I realized that the drivers I had were from my Motorola Milestone.
Next step: Uninstall the wrong drivers, and reinstall the new ones.
Only with this i could get the device to work with KFU.
Open the Run application at KFU folder.
Choosed option 2: Install Permanent Root with Superuser.
All worked fine until i get the message "with great powers come great responsabilityies" press any key to continue...
[EDIT: Tried to install Gapps extras... I don't remember if Kindle was dead before this or after]
The Kindle rebooted, got to the screen with the "kindle" word, and died.
Since that I'm getting no power on, no led lights, no response when connected to usb... nothing.
What should I do?
Go to Motorola Tech Support (here in my city) and try to use a factory cable?
or
I can only put my hopes on USB Boot Mode?
Guys, thanks in advance and sorry for my english, I certainly made some msitakes.
Or I can try Firekit?

That's strange, installing the wrong device drivers on your computer shouldn't affect your Kindle.
What it really sounds like is your battery died in the process of installing the FFF bootloader. How was your battery before you started? Have you tried holding the power button for 20 seconds for a hard shutdown?
As far as I know, the only thing that will cause power on issues is a broken bootloader. In which case, USB boot with firekit is your only option.

I guess I had at least 50% o battery charge, or more... I can't remember...
If I push the power button now, the Kindle will get warm, as if it was in use. And if I hold for 20s, will shut down...
I don't even started to install de fire fire fire bootloader, I installed the permanent root with super user and then went to install GApps. I guess my kindle was shutdown before Gapps install.
What should I do? Test the factory cable first?
When you say that I have to use Firekit, you are saying that I have to open my Kindle?

Left the Fire charging for at least 12 hours.
Tried to power on, to hold 20s and nothing happened.
I'll gonna try this:
Fix power on problems: If the Fire's screen never seems to turn on, you may have wrecked the bootloaders or the partitioning. Fortunately most of the time this results in the CPU falling into the low level USB boot mode. Use the "usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp" to rebuild the flash enough to boot TWRP. You don't need to use the USB shorting trick for this one, just power up the Kindle after running the script.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430038
My question is: I'm running Ubuntu within VMWare tools. Can I boot from usb stick this way?
Gonna try this before I use factory cable or open my Kindle Fire.
EDIT:
Reading the FIREKIT Topic, this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25814062&postcount=26
My issue is kind of different from his... I'm guessing I'll have to open my Kindle anyway... Started yesterday, but I was messing with the case, gonna find some proper tools

VMs will not work. You have to create a bootable Linux LiveUSB thumb drive.

DuendePaladino said:
Left the Fire charging for at least 12 hours.
Tried to power on, to hold 20s and nothing happened.
I'll gonna try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430038
My question is: I'm running Ubuntu within VMWare tools. Can I boot from usb stick this way?
Gonna try this before I use factory cable or open my Kindle Fire.
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If you already have a working Ubuntu installation, you don't have to make the USB stick. You can just run the fk binary in your Ubuntu setup.

kinfauns said:
If you already have a working Ubuntu installation, you don't have to make the USB stick. You can just run the fk binary in your Ubuntu setup.
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I've tried it on a VM and had it confirmed by other users that VMs aren't fast enough to detect the USB in time. From what I've seen, it has always been suggested to either use either a straight Linux install or a bootable LiveUSB.

soupmagnet said:
I've tried it on a VM and had it confirmed by other users that VMs aren't fast enough to detect the USB in time. From what I've seen, it has always been suggested to either use either a straight Linux install or a bootable LiveUSB.
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I guess it might depend on the VM, but I disagree with the generalization that VMs are too slow and have issues with USB.
The only thing I've seen is that Oracle's VirtualBox USB implementation breaks adb. I've never tried VMWare, but Parallels Desktop for both my Ubuntu and Windows setups work perfectly. Never had an issue.

DuendePaladino said:
What should I do? Test the factory cable first?
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Anybody who is going to be modifying the basic software of their Kindle, or even just root it and play around, should have a factory cable. Xda member SkOrPn makes good ones at a reasonable price and ships them quickly. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25725396&postcount=338.
(From what you wrote earlier, I presume that you don't yet have convenient access to a factory cable but would have to go out of your way to use one. If you do, in fact, have easy access to one, I can't imagine why you wouldn't try using it instead of putting a lot of effort into looking for alternatives.)

aarons510 said:
Anybody who is going to be modifying the basic software of their Kindle, or even just root it and play around, should have a factory cable. Xda member SkOrPn makes good ones at a reasonable price and ships them quickly. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25725396&postcount=338.
(From what you wrote earlier, I presume that you don't yet have convenient access to a factory cable but would have to go out of your way to use one. If you do, in fact, have easy access to one, I can't imagine why you wouldn't try using it instead of putting a lot of effort into looking for alternatives.)
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Without a working bootloader, a factory cable is useless.

soupmagnet said:
Without a working bootloader, a factory cable is useless.
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All the scene leads to this... USB Boot.
About the USB stick, I was making some confusion about it.
But, I´ll gonna make one stick right now.

Guys,
I made the usb stick... just figuring how to open the kindle fire, without ruining the case.
But I guess today I'll made the short trick.
Question: I'll keep the 6.3 stock room that i tried to root? Or I'll have to download another ROM?

Is there any know issues about firekit compatibility with ubuntu 12.04?
Like this here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25918331&postcount=10

I WON!!!!
I'M BEOWULF!!!!
Serious now...
Firekit method, with short trick... keep trying... until you find the right spot for the shor... and will work
EDIT:
THANK YOU GUYS!!!
I wouldnt be that happy without your help and your knowledge... You're the real Beowulf!

Possibly bricked Kindle Fire....help needed, and appreciated!

A few of you know me already from my thread where I asked a million questions before attempting to install a custom ROM on my new KF. Well, it still went completely south somehow, so here I am.
So, I'm stuck with the stock Kindle Fire logo on the screen, and and can't get it to go anywhere.
Here's what I did:
Downloaded KFU, installed the drivers, plugged in the Kindle,and ran KFU. ADB status online, boot status 4000.....so everything seemed good, from what I've learned. Also looked in Device manager, and it showed up as Android phone, or whatever it's supposed to say. I figure I'm good to go.
My plan is to install TWRP,FFF, and root it, then boot into TWRP, and flash the ROM. The first thing I did(and it seems wrong now) was try to install FFF, instead of TWRP. I think that's the wrong order, but not totally sure if it matters, but it's my assumption that it does.
So, as soon as I sent the command, for some reason, my computer got this blue screen with some message that I didn't have time to read, because it restarted right after. It still said everything looked good, so I tried again to install FFF. I think the "crash" was just coincidental, because it didn't act like that the second time, but whatever.
Anyway.......said it was installing FFF, and then it went to <waiting for device>
I figured ...ok...need to wait.
After about 10 minutes of waiting, I held the power button down until it turned off, then turned it back on, because someone said that's what you should do if this happens. Well, essentially.....since then, I've not seen anything but the Kindle Fire logo on the screen, and it feels like I've tried everything. A forum member spent some time on the phone with me, and we tried everything he knew.....no luck.
At one point, someone told me to uninstall the drivers and reinstall them, which I did, but upon reinstalling them, nothing changed, and the computer no longer even recognizes it being plugged in as a USB device, the drivers don't show now in device manager, even though I told KFU to reinstall them. To me that's weird, and seems like a major problem, because the computer isn't "seeing" the device, but that's mu humble opinion. I'm at a total loss, and would sure appreciate some help bringing this thing back.
Thanks....immensely, in advance!

Make sure you reboot your computer. Also if you can, switch USB ports. Pay attention to your device manager when doing so. Trying on a different computer can also be helpful.
If nothing you do results in any change, it's time to give up on Windows and create a Linux LiveUSB. Linux is extremely stable and pretty easy to set up and send adb/fastboot commands with. If you do decide to take that route, Ubuntu is pretty much the standard and version10.4 generally works better than later versions.

soupmagnet said:
Make sure you reboot your computer. Also if you can, switch USB ports. Pay attention to your device manager when doing so. Trying on a different computer can also be helpful.
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I rebooted, switched ports, and it didn't seem to change. The computer didn't even recognize it being plugged in. I just plugged in a flash drive, just for fun, and got the message that USB device was detected, so it's not the computer....to me anyway. Also tried plugging the Kindle into my wife's older Dell, and it gave me a message that a USB device connected to the computer wasn't working properly.

soulweeper51 said:
I rebooted, switched ports, and it didn't seem to change. The computer didn't even recognize it being plugged in. I just plugged in a flash drive, just for fun, and got the message that USB device was detected, so it's not the computer....to me anyway. Also tried plugging the Kindle into my wife's older Dell, and it gave me a message that a USB device connected to the computer wasn't working properly.
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Use the KFU on the laptop to install the drivers and see if that makes a difference.

soupmagnet said:
Use the KFU on the laptop to install the drivers and see if that makes a difference.
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The older Dell is a desktop, is that what you meant? Just try installing drivers via KFU from there?

soulweeper51 said:
The older Dell is a desktop, is that what you meant? Just try installing drivers via KFU from there?
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Yeah, that's what I meant.

Why Windows fails to install/load the drivers for fastboot is really a mystery to me. It obviously has the adb part of it working or you wouldn't be in fastboot in the first place.
You need to provide details on exactly what's going on when Windows attempts to load drivers.
Turn up the sound volume on your computer. With the device connected to your PC, turn it (the Kindle Fire) off and back on. When the device puts itself into fastboot, Windows will provide a series of two tones.
low->high means it's connecting
high->low means it's disconnecting.
If you get the low->high tones without the high->low tones following them up, you should be seeing SOMETHING change in the device manager. Don't gloss over the details with "Android phone whatever" but report what you see. The device drivers post in the beginner's guide has details on what should appear in the device manager.
EDIT: Also do this...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315539
Even with the device disconnected, you should see 4 devices under "Android Phone" if you've managed to get those device drivers installed from KFU.

kinfauns said:
Why Windows fails to install/load the drivers for fastboot is really a mystery to me. It obviously has the adb part of it working or you wouldn't be in fastboot in the first place.
You need to provide details on exactly what's going on when Windows attempts to load drivers.
Turn up the sound volume on your computer. With the device connected to your PC, turn it (the Kindle Fire) off and back on. When the device puts itself into fastboot, Windows will provide a series of two tones.
low->high means it's connecting
high->low means it's disconnecting.
If you get the low->high tones without the high->low tones following them up, you should be seeing SOMETHING change in the device manager. Don't gloss over the details with "Android phone whatever" but report what you see. The device drivers post in the beginner's guide has details on what should appear in the device manager.
EDIT: Also do this...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315539
Even with the device disconnected, you should see 4 devices under "Android Phone" if you've managed to get those device drivers installed from KFU.
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I just did exactly what you said......plugged it in, turned it off. Turned volume all the way up, turned it on....no sound of any kind.
The weird part is when I first installed the drivers, I checked it by plugging the device in, and had adb status online, staus 4000, plus I went to the device manager, and I remember two things that said android phone. One said android phone, and the other said android something or other. And, it was seeing the device and everything seemed hunky dory, and I guess at that time it was???
I did uninstall and reinstall the drivers via KFU, and it says it's installing them, but never again have I seen anything in device manger that says Android anything. That is just wrong to me.

Personally I think you're spinning your wheels with Windows and causing yourself more headache than needed.
Create a bootable Linux LiveUSB on a thumb drive with Ubuntu 10.4 and get Android-SDK installed on it.
[Edit:]fixed spell check fail

I'm starting to think you've killed your bootloader or got a bad flash when your machine crashed. This is why I suggested you flash your recovery first, because you can still fix that through the bootloader if a recovery flash goes wrong.
In any case, I think soupmagnet is right... FireKit is probably the next thing you should try if Windows won't even recognize the device being there. If on top of that, I'm right about your bootloader, you're going to have to crack your case open and put it into USB boot mode because Firekit won't be able to fix that on its own.

kinfauns said:
I'm starting to think you've killed your bootloader or got a bad flash when your machine crashed. This is why I suggested you flash your recovery first.
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Trust me.....I realized not too long after that I had done the wrong order. I even had a note to myself right here that said:
TWRP
FFF
Root
For the life of me, I don't know why I did FFF first.
All the questions I asked, and as anal retentive as I am, I totally screwed that part up, which may be the entire problem. Trust me.......I'm pissed.

You should at the very least, set up the Android-SDK on your LinuxUSB and check to see if it's just a driver issue you're dealing with. Linux handles the drivers for Android devices much better, and in most cases, easier than with Windows.

kinfauns said:
I'm starting to think you've killed your bootloader or got a bad flash when your machine crashed. This is why I suggested you flash your recovery first, because you can still fix that through the bootloader if a recovery flash goes wrong.
In any case, I think soupmagnet is right... FireKit is probably the next thing you should try if Windows won't even recognize the device being there. If on top of that, I'm right about your bootloader, you're going to have to crack your case open and put it into USB boot mode because Firekit won't be able to fix that on its own.
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Can I ask what Firekit is?

Firekit is a tool used to fix major problems easily. I would use it as a last resort because there isn't a command for just installing TWRP without the bootloader.. Get your Android-SDK installed and I'll help you with the drivers and platform-tools install.

soupmagnet said:
You should at the very least, set up the Android-SDK on your LinuxUSB and check to see if it's just a driver issue you're dealing with. Linux handles the drivers for Android devices much better, and in most cases, easier than with Windows.
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I'll just be honest and tell you that I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't mean that in a bad way.......I'm not some computer whiz that speaks the same language as a lot of you. Right now I wish I had left the freakin thing alone with Go Launcher Ex and called it a day. I'm really pissed off right now....that's not your fault.
I don't suppose that Factory Cable will do anything for this situation, correct? The guy said he will send it ASAP FWIW.
Had to ask.

soupmagnet said:
Get your Android-SDK installed and I'll help you with the drivers and platform-tools install.
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Can you kindly tell me how I get to the point you're speaking of?
Sorry....this stuff is foreign language to me.
Do I have to install ubuntu on my computer?

Take a breath...relax. We'll walk you through it.
Get a thumb drive w/approximately 1Gb of storage and create a bootable LiveUSB.

soupmagnet said:
Take a breath...relax. We'll walk you through it.
Get a thumb drive w/approximately 1Gb of storage and create a bootable LiveUSB.
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Should I trust this method?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB
I know NOTHING about this.
EDIT: Never mind.......that's another OS......damnit!
Can't I just play dumb, and send it back? I hate to say that, but.....

I guess this is it
http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download
^See.......trying as hard as I can to keep a good attitude.

That will work. Download Ubuntu 10.4

[Q] Bricked Kindle Fire- Stuck on FFF, device not recognized by anything.

Alright folks, I would like to start off with a little introduction:
I'm extremely new to the rooting scene, i've been jailbreaking iphones and ipods since day one. That being said, I probably should have spent more time researching this technique before I went through with it.
Fast forward to today:
I tried rooting my device awhile back, wasn't a 100% successful and I really didn't have the time to work it out. I did have FFF installed and the next window (which i'm not exactly sure what it's called, which allowed me to boot in various moods and such)
Earlier today I got stuck in a boot loop, where my kindle would turn off as soon as i restarted it, and after i selected normal boot mode. I decided it would be a good idea to try a different boot option, so i tried the FF boot, which completely ruined my day.
My current situation is as follows:
I'm currently stuck on the first FFF screen (yellow triangle, with the green light on), i can do nothing else from that screen except hard (cold) reboots. When i plug my kindle in (Mac, windows 7, windows XP), the device is not recognized and i get zero response. I've tried a decent amount of suggestions on this forum, including Kindle fire unbrick (Which can somehow see that there adb is installed, but the bootmode is unknown)
Help out of this current situation would be wonderful. I'm really in a jam here.

Sounds like you are stuck in fastboot and you might have a dead battery too.
You should read this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547
1st post for background information, 2nd post for making sure your device drivers are loading/working, and the 3rd post for fastboot and adb commands. You'll probably need to use fastboot to change the bootmode back to normal.
This one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623244
address dead battery problems. You might be affect this by this one as well.

Thanks for the reply,
I read pieces of the first one before I posted on this thread. The KF was 100% charged and i only used it for about 15mins before the whole crashing problem occurred, so i highly doubt it's a low battery issue.
The screen that i'm stuck on is actually the recovery screen. After reading the article in it's entirety, i'm still not exactly sure what to do. My problem is that i cannot get my kindle fire to be recognized as any type of USB device on any type of computer. Wouldn't that issue need to be addressed before i can go about doing anything else? Or will drivers see what my computer think is not there?

B4CKlash said:
Thanks for the reply,
I read pieces of the first one before I posted on this thread. The KF was 100% charged and i only used it for about 15mins before the whole crashing problem occurred, so i highly doubt it's a low battery issue.
The screen that i'm stuck on is actually the recovery screen. After reading the article in it's entirety, i'm still not exactly sure what to do. My problem is that i cannot get my kindle fire to be recognized as any type of USB device on any type of computer. Wouldn't that issue need to be addressed before i can go about doing anything else? Or will drivers see what my computer think is not there?
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What do you mean by recovery screen? Because your first post said FFF and that's your bootloader. If the yellow triangle boot logo comes up and that's all that the display does (doesn't go black and redisplay the boot logo), then it's in fastboot mode. Windows should give you an indication that it's connecting with a series of 2 connection beeps (low->high tone) without a following set of disconnect beeps (high->low tone). The device manager will show something new in the list (this is covered in post #2 in the first URL I pasted for you).
Yes, you need to get something to get recognized by your computer then you need to install the proper drivers for it. Look at post #2 again, and see if you can figure out what device is appearing in the list and get the drivers loaded for it. If you get absolutely nothing, there's something wrong with the bootloader, your USB cable, USB port, or computer in general and it's a bigger problem.
If nothing happens on your computer, find another one and hook it up there. You might also look at this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430038
and see if Linux can help you.

I'm sorry, I was mistaken. I am stuck in Fastboot mode, The one with the yellow triangle. I get zero indication from Windows device manager list, or beeps (same on my mac). I have tried 3 different cables, so i highly doubt that's the problem either.
My next step is the linux distro, which i will get back to you with when I get everything installed. My only concern is that the linux distribution isn't going to recognize the USB either (seeing as 2 other operating systems haven't) and that there's something inherently wrong with my kindle. In which case i'm ****ed? or is there any chance that amazon will take it back?

B4CKlash said:
I'm sorry, I was mistaken. I am stuck in Fastboot mode, The one with the yellow triangle. I get zero indication from Windows device manager list, or beeps (same on my mac). I have tried 3 different cables, so i highly doubt that's the problem either.
My next step is the linux distro, which i will get back to you with when I get everything installed. My only concern is that the linux distribution isn't going to recognize the USB either (seeing as 2 other operating systems haven't) and that there's something inherently wrong with my kindle. In which case i'm ****ed? or is there any chance that amazon will take it back?
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Windows will be the only one that of the three that will beep at you. There's a better chance of you getting something done with Linux, but it's starting to sound like a bootloader problem to me. There's another user with a similar problem to yours and he's basically where you are now. Both of you might have to open up the case and get it to USB boot mode where you can upload a bootloader to it through USB. Try Firekit and see if it gets anywhere.

[Q] Bricked ... tried most things ... need some guidance

Hi,
Some background - I've been tinkering with android roms on phones for a while, and thought i'd give it a go on my Kindle, which I hardly ever use with the stock rom. I have a very low level of understanding regarding rooting, etc., but generally I'm good at following instructions (until now!)
So everything was going along nicely. Because I hardly ever use the device, I decided to do a full wipe before installing the new rom. Then, when I went to flash it, it turns out that I had forgotten to copy the new rom onto the SD card. In a moment of temporary insanity, I turned the device off (don't ask me why, I can't explain it).
On restart, the device now gets stuck on the logo screen. KFU tells me that the device is online, but boot status is unkown, and it can't change the status (although it does reboot the device when I try to put it into fast boot mode- but it doesn't actually 'fastboot').
If I try to reinstall TWRP or anything else, I get the 'exec system\bin\sh failed' error. The Kindle unbrick utility is unable to help.
I did some research and it kept pointing me to a factory cable, which I duly bought off eBay. When I use the factory cable, the only difference is that the boot sequence is slightly different (different levels of backlight) and KFU can't recognise the device at all - it says its offline.
I have no idea if the factory cable I have bought is any good - it might be complete rubbish.
Can any tell me if there is a simple option I have missed? Is trying fixes through Linux the only option? Will I have to open my kindle to fix it? I've already spent a heap of time on it, and I'm just about ready to call it a paperweight. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I`m a little confused so file me in. Do you have access to recovery? with your type of error "exec system\bin\sh failed" a factory cable is indeed needed to reinstall twrp and the bootloader, unless you can access TWRP and mount your sdcard and transfer a rom. If that is not possible then you have some kind of mounting issue. So I still wonder what happened to your recovery and your bootloader? For me yet not everything is meshing to well. No bootloader, no acces to recovery, kindle just boots to logo and no further. Does the logo flicker and brighten and dim at boot? Yes very likely you will need to run linux on a live usb then run soupkit on it. Still you may still need a real factory cable not one half **s one from ebay you can find that here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392693 from user @SkOrPn no one can beat what he does I`m sorry. As for linux and soupkit the where and how is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850038 . Unless you get easily confused then try the iso I created with some fairly easy instructions soupkit is ran already simple create boot and use you can find that here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413358 post # 7 make no mistake that this is only for the kindle like the last person I helped with this setup. This is your best route to get your kindle fixed sounds like it could still be a combined effort cable and soupkit .You will know when you hook your kindle up and run some of the features in soupkit if your device is truly online or if a cable is needed. If you run my iso teamviewer is also installed so it provides a nice edition for assistance if you want someone to see what you see. If you choose to run soupkit then the par for instructions differ from those of my iso.

Thepooch said:
I`m a little confused so file me in. Do you have access to recovery? with your type of error "exec system\bin\sh failed" a factory cable is indeed needed to reinstall twrp and the bootloader, unless you can access TWRP and mount your sdcard and transfer a rom. If that is not possible then you have some kind of mounting issue. So I still wonder what happened to your recovery and your bootloader? For me yet not everything is meshing to well. No bootloader, no acces to recovery, kindle just boots to logo and no further. Does the logo flicker and brighten and dim at boot? Yes very likely you will need to run linux on a live usb then run soupkit on it. Still you may still need a real factory cable not one half **s one from ebay you can find that here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392693 from user @SkOrPn no one can beat what he does I`m sorry. As for linux and soupkit the where and how is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850038 . Unless you get easily confused then try the iso I created with some fairly easy instructions soupkit is ran already simple create boot and use you can find that here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413358 post # 7 make no mistake that this is only for the kindle like the last person I helped with this setup. This is your best route to get your kindle fixed sounds like it could still be a combined effort cable and soupkit .You will know when you hook your kindle up and run some of the features in soupkit if your device is truly online or if a cable is needed. If you run my iso teamviewer is also installed so it provides a nice edition for assistance if you want someone to see what you see. If you choose to run soupkit then the par for instructions differ from those of my iso.
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No, I can't access recovery at all. When I use the factory cable, there is no flicker, but all other ways (standard cable, no cable) there is a flicker and it brightens. Either way, it just hangs on the logo.
I suspect that the factory cable is not all it should be ... I will probably try the @SkOrPn option first, then work my way through the other options you mention. I had kind of figured from reading other posts that this would be the case ...
Thanks for taking the tiime to help.

There is no flicker because your likely in fastboot the lack of recognition is drivers which can easily be solved using linux and soupkit. Otherwise straighten out your drivers in windows by running the driver bat packaged with kfu. If your on XP it`s a fight to the death to try to sort out unsigned drivers on that os. Sometimes I can get it fast other times it`s pointlessbut a huge hassle nonetheless. Attempt to fix your drivers while using the factory cable you have maybe you will get lucky.

Fixed! Thanks so much!
I used your pre-installed ISO and it was a piece of cake. Initially, I had the device connected over the factory cable and it wasn't recognising it, but when I swapped to a standard cable, suddenly I was able to reboot into recovery straight away. Rom mounted and installed, and I have a new tablet!
Definitely appreciate all your hard work!

That`s great I`m happy you had good success!!

[Q] No power after Usbboot shorting trick

While attempting to unbrick my kindle using the Linux usbboot short trick and not getting anything detected in firekit and soupkit nor win7 for that matter, my little green power light now is always off. No power via battery and worse not even usb cable to pc even lightsup. Is this totally useless, now?

Probably not. What exactly were you doing when this happened? Please be as detailed as possible.
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I had cm7 on for a long time with usb mass storage working and adb etc. Then I went with an early ver. of cm9 and found no usb connection or sd mount was possible. Months later i gave to my gf who wanted photos on it. But windows has not detected it. So I tried to update with cm10 and it was advised to update my twrp to 2.2.2.1. But upon using this new version of twrp I noticed I could only restore a backup I made. That worked. But the flashing of the cm10 rom did not, The touch screen was not responding at all, there.I rebooted into twrp and retried to flash the cm10 with still no screen response so I pressed reboot and saw "bootloader" and pressed it instead of reboot or sysem or plain shutdown. Thus my brick. I read much and guess i was stuck in fastboot mode and w/o any adb detection by windows 7 went with Linux usbboot shorting trick. Made the usb stick boot up to ubuntu and tried firekit and soupkit to no avail. Always showed Waiting for device!. Of course the back was off and pin shorted on mobo. Minutes later I notice all lights of kindle fire are out. No more Triangle or anything! Pc usb cable does not power it on nor does my battery charger in ac or solo w/battery. This is what I can recall from last 3 days.

Smmoph said:
I had cm7 on for a long time with usb mass storage working and adb etc. Then I went with an early ver. of cm9 and found no usb connection or sd mount was possible. Months later i gave to my gf who wanted photos on it. But windows has not detected it. So I tried to update with cm10 and it was advised to update my twrp to 2.2.2.1. But upon using this new version of twrp I noticed I could only restore a backup I made. That worked. But the flashing of the cm10 rom did not, The touch screen was not responding at all, there.I rebooted into twrp and retried to flash the cm10 with still no screen response so I pressed reboot and saw "bootloader" and pressed it instead of reboot or sysem or plain shutdown. Thus my brick. I read much and guess i was stuck in fastboot mode and w/o any adb detection by windows 7 went with Linux usbboot shorting trick. Made the usb stick boot up to ubuntu and tried firekit and soupkit to no avail. Of course the back was off and pin shorted on mobo. Minutes later I notice all lights of kindle fire are out. No more Triangle or anything! Pc usb cable does not power it on nor does my battery charger in ac or solo w/battery. This is what I can recall from last 3 days.
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Ok, the reason I ask...
Your device is either in USBboot or you didn't install a bootloader properly. At first glance it seems it's the latter. In Firekit, select "usb_install_fff_twrp". If it just sits at "waiting for OMAP4 device" you'll need to use the shorting trick to detect the device and get the bootloader installed properly. Afterwards, if I were you, I would use recovery to install the latest version of FFF before rebooting.
"That's a special kind of stupid. The kind that makes me laugh."

soupmagnet said:
Ok, the reason I ask...
Your device is either in USBboot or you didn't install a bootloader properly. At first glance it seems it's the latter. In Firekit, select "usb_install_fff_twrp". If it just sits at "waiting for OMAP4 device" you'll need to use the shorting trick to detect the device and get the bootloader installed properly. Afterwards, if I were you, I would use recovery to install the latest version of FFF before rebooting.
"That's a special kind of stupid. The kind that makes me laugh."
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I will try when the Kindle fire turns on. Rather, if it ever powers up. Thanks for your time and response.

Smmoph said:
I will try when the Kindle fire turns on. Rather, if it ever powers up. Thanks for your time and response.
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No, you misunderstood. The device already powers up (even though it doesn't seem like it), it just doesn't have a working bootloader. Without a working bootloader, the only way you can communicate with the device is to put it in USBboot.
There's a possibility it is already in USBboot (unlikely) and Firekit will send commands anyway. Otherwise, you need to use the shorting trick to temporarily put it in USBboot long enough for Firekit to work.
"That's a special kind of stupid. The kind that makes me laugh."

soupmagnet said:
No, you misunderstood. The device already powers up (even though it doesn't seem like it), it just doesn't have a working bootloader. Without a working bootloader, the only way you can communicate with the device is to put it in USBboot.
There's a possibility it is already in USBboot (unlikely) and Firekit will send commands anyway. Otherwise, you need to use the shorting trick to temporarily put it in USBboot long enough for Firekit to work.
"That's a special kind of stupid. The kind that makes me laugh."
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Alright I will give it a go. It will have to wait till tmmrrw, tho.
Thanks

On another route, What if I buy a new KF 1st Gen. from a retail store and put this bricked one in the new box with cords, papers etc. and return it within the full refund time would I stand a chance at getting refunded? Also since it won't light up could I claim it is simply bad hardware section of the unit? Plus would it eventually get torn down ,Amazon..where they might see it was rooted and registered by me?

I have a better idea. Why don't you take some personal responsibility for a problem YOU created and either fix it yourself, send it to someone who can, or suck it up and cut your losses?
I could go on all day about the moral, let alone the practical, implications of how such a decision will impact the community as a whole, but we both know that would be a complete waste of my time.
Do as previously suggested or not, but don't complain when it becomes increasingly harder to make a device, one that you've spent your hard earned money on, your own.
"That's a special kind of stupid. The kind that makes me laugh."