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UPDATE: I added "solved" to the title since I am now unbricked. That said, I do hope someone will pop in and tell me how to run the shell scripts on a mac...
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Hi there. I have spent several days searching xda forums, popping into the kindlefire irc channel, and searching google however have not yet figured this out, could use some help.
I have read: the Kindle Fire Beginners Guide, the Kindle Fire Unbrick thread, The Kindle Fire Utility thread (yup the whole thing), and more.
According to the Kindle Fire Beginner's Guide, only 1% of all brick situations are actually a brick, so I'm going to persevere and go ahead and ask for the help, because also according to the guide, if your fire can't be seen as a device then actually it's a brick. To quote: " unless something else was done to the device after the change in bootmode preventing access to adb or fastboot commands. Then it’s actually a brick at that point."
I can't be sure if anything else was done after the change in bootmode so I'll just explain how I got here and hopefully someone can help out.
I have a mac mini running Os x 10.6.8, and the Kindle Fire which was running stock version 6.2.2.
I used the kindlewater root method to install firefirefire and cwm recovery. Was able to boot into recovery by pressing on the power button for it to go orange and then load the recovery options.
Before doing anything at all (and in consultation with St3p_2 of this forum, one of the kindlewater developers), I decided to perform a backup in preparation for flashing a ROM.
so, I booted, went into recovery, navigated to "install a .zip" and chose "backup" at which point I got a message/nag/reminder that this was a permanent change, and I selected "ok". It did it's thing for a while, went into reboot, and I then had the firefirefire logo blinking in a very very slow loop.
It was recommended to me to perform a factory reset by holding the power button for 2 solid minutes, which should then have returned me to stock. Actually, the first time i did it for minutes I went from having a very slow blinking firefirefire to having a rather fast blinking firefirefire. Following a suggestion i then tried it with the kindlefire unplugged. This resulted in a plain black screen until the fire was plugged in again: no boot, no indication of response to use of the power button. Once plugged in, it has gone back to the rather fast blinking firefirefire logo.
I read through the Kindle Fire Utility thread, found the v0.9.2 version prepared for mac and linux, and downloaded it. Although I am not new to terminal, I am not familiar with what command language is necessary to perform the actions required by this tool. If I open the install_drivers.sh with terminal, i get this:
Reverie:~ apple$ /kindlefire/Kindle_Fire_Utility_MacLinux_0.9-1.2/install_drivers.sh ; exit;
This file will install the correct adb_usb.ini file for proper Kindle Fire detection.
cp: drivers/adb_usb.ini: No such file or directory
Done!
logout
[Process completed]
so I tried running it in the console. I will spare you the output of the console as it appeared to be merely a printout of the actual code of the file and was quite long.
Trying to run the file runme.sh in terminal before running the install_drivers.sh in the console, I got error messages stating there is no such command, or no such file, depending on my command language.
After running the install_drivers.sh in the console, when I try to run runme.sh in terminal, i get this:
/kindlefire/runme.sh ; exit;
Reverie:~ apple$ /kindlefire/runme.sh ; exit;
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Easy rooting toolkit (v1.0)
created by DooMLoRD
using exploit zergRush (Revolutionary Team)
Credits go to all those involved in making this possible!
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[*] This script will:
(1) root ur device using zergRush exploit
(2) install Busybox (1.18.4)
(3) install SU files (3.0.5)
[*] Before u begin:
(1) make sure adb is in your path
(2) enable "USB DEBUGGING"
from (Menu\Settings\Applications\Development)
(3) enable "UNKNOWN SOURCES"
from (Menu\Settings\Applications)
(4) [OPTIONAL] increase screen timeout to 10 minutes
(5) connect USB cable to PHONE and then connect to PC
(6) skip "PC Companion Software" prompt on device
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CONFIRM ALL THE ABOVE THEN
Press any key to continue... --- STARTING ----
--- WAITING FOR DEVICE
Which I affirmed because all the requirements had indeed been set that way on the device before the bricking happened. After "starting" and "waiting for device" nothing happens even waiting indefinitely (more than half an hour) and then it never finds the device.
When I go into terminal and type: "adb devices" I get:
Last login: Sun Mar 18 17:08:38 on ttys001
Reverie:~ apple$ adb devices
List of devices attached
Reverie:~ apple$
This result is the same both before attempting to use the 0.9.2 mac utility and after.
I really am stuck at this point, as everything I find with instructions on how to "unbrick" does require that the machine recognize that your kindlefire is attached. Running any of the tools I find requires that basic bottom dollar, which I don't seem to have.
That said, the behavior of "nothing at all: blank screen" when unplugged, and the behavior of "blinking firefirefire logo" when plugged in would tend to indicate that at the very least the device knows it's plugged in and getting juice, and some process is happening when that's true.
Can someone help? Is my next step to purchase a factory cable, or do I have a software solution available to me that I just didn't find in this haystack of solutions?
nothing doing when unplugged seems like a dead battery
would try to charge it with the wall charger for some hours regardless if the orange light comes up - this can last a while
furthermore i don't know which version of kfu for mac you'r using but zergrush is'nt working any more since stock rom 0.6.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21369040&postcount=653
for rooting use kindlewater:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443071
as far as i know the commands need to be entered with a ./ in front ie: ./install_drivers.sh
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Can someone help? Is my next step to purchase a factory cable, or do I have a software solution available to me that I just didn't find in this haystack of solutions?
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Thanks for reading my guide. I hope it helped you a bit.
Mac OS X is also my primary OS and I take my hat off to you for even trying things this way. I took the easy way out from the very beginning and just used Parallels Desktop to build Windows and Linux virtual machines. If things ultimately don't work out, you might want to try going that route as well. I believe Parallels offers a demo version if you want to see it in action. Regardless, I don't think that matters quite yet, because I tend to agree with b63 here. I think the biggest problem you have right now is a dead battery.
I've never had a dead battery, so I can't comment directly, but take a look at this thread, starting at post #226...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392693&page=23
There some back and forth for a couple of pages, but that user describes symptoms that sound very much like what you are seeing right now. I think you should try the wall charger first. Plug it in, force the Kindle Fire to turn off and just try to let it charge overnight or something. If you cannot get your KF charged with the stock wall charger, you might want to buy a factory cable. From what I gather, that user reported that his Kindle Fire booted into fastboot mode by using the factory cable even with a (nearly) dead battery. He was then able to flash the stock software, which is able to handle the dead battery situation better than some alternative ROM and have it go through the charge cycle.
Wow... so simple...
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nothing doing when unplugged seems like a dead battery
would try to charge it with the wall charger for some hours regardless if the orange light comes up - this can last a while
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This was the deal. When plugged in with the usb cord it didn't seem to be giving it power and being powerless could not be recognized by the computer. Plugged it into the wall charger and Voila! was able to start up just fine, still rooted via the kindlewater method, capable of being booted normally or booted into CWM recovery. Awesome!
I also did a quick double-check, and now that it's powered-up, running a terminal and typing "adb devices" actually returns a list with the kindle (serial number?) on it.
furthermore i don't know which version of kfu for mac you'r using but zergrush is'nt working any more since stock rom 0.6.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21369040&postcount=653
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I read through everything and the version of kfu that was modded for mac was 0.9.2 which I mentioned in my original post. Sounds like since I was on 6.2.2 that mac version is definitely not going to help me (both kfu out of date and stock version out of date on zergrush) if I were to want it for rooting purposes.
for rooting use kindlewater:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443071
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that is the one i used. I was looking for a mac tool for post-root rescue methods...i had thought that the kfu mac version had valuable rescue/unbrick capabilities but at this point I don't remember.
as far as i know the commands need to be entered with a ./ in front ie: ./install_drivers.sh
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Thankfully, I don't need to try that. my kf got properly unbricked just by plugging it into the wall charger.
Great guide, it was the battery
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Thanks for reading my guide. I hope it helped you a bit.
Mac OS X is also my primary OS and I take my hat off to you for even trying things this way. I took the easy way out from the very beginning and just used Parallels Desktop to build Windows and Linux virtual machines. If things ultimately don't work out, you might want to try going that route as well. I believe Parallels offers a demo version if you want to see it in action. Regardless, I don't think that matters quite yet, because I tend to agree with b63 here. I think the biggest problem you have right now is a dead battery.
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Thank you for your guide. I thought it was extremely well written and very helpful. It definitely helped me relax a little stress-wise while looking for a solution.
That was it (dead battery). I did try meddling around a bit with virtualbox virtual machines: a windows 7 ultimate, and a linux box that I have that does not have internet access making doing anything realtime while reading suggestions just isnt easy/feasible right now. I found that the virtualbox vms did not have access to the usb devices (flash drives, external hard drives, ostensibly if it were visible to the computer the kindle) despite my installing some optional extension packs for that purpose. I didn't explore the vms further to linux or xp simply because of the time required to install and configure a vm. I also didn't rewire my home so net access went to the linux box for the same reason... ultimately both are possible but both more hassle than it seems to be worth before simply asking the question, can it be done on a mac?
I've never had a dead battery, so I can't comment directly, but take a look at this thread, starting at post #226...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392693&page=23
There some back and forth for a couple of pages, but that user describes symptoms that sound very much like what you are seeing right now. I think you should try the wall charger first. Plug it in, force the Kindle Fire to turn off and just try to let it charge overnight or something. If you cannot get your KF charged with the stock wall charger, you might want to buy a factory cable. From what I gather, that user reported that his Kindle Fire booted into fastboot mode by using the factory cable even with a (nearly) dead battery. He was then able to flash the stock software, which is able to handle the dead battery situation better than some alternative ROM and have it go through the charge cycle.
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I'm just so glad this worked. Thank you for your help!
glad to help ...
please mark the subject of the topic (edit first post) with [Solved]
Similar issue
My KF is seeming to have a similar but distinctly different issue as the OP. Because I can turn on the KF without it being plugged in, I cannot imagine that it is a battery issue.
When I plug it in to a Windows machine, the FFF bootloader comes on, the KF seems to connect, be recognized, fail at driver installation (which I have done manually, with no success), and then disconnect. This prevents me from running any sort of commands.
When I connect to my Mac, I get the FFF bootloader and then no response whatsoever.
Trying to run commands from Terminal or the Command line or using KFU on my Windows machine all result in a "waiting for device" message.
Not sure what I should do from this point to get it back to accepting adb commands. I'm confident that once I do I'll be able to save it, but at this point I'm stuck.
Any ideas?
A few of you know me already from my thread where I asked a million questions before attempting to install a custom ROM on my new KF. Well, it still went completely south somehow, so here I am.
So, I'm stuck with the stock Kindle Fire logo on the screen, and and can't get it to go anywhere.
Here's what I did:
Downloaded KFU, installed the drivers, plugged in the Kindle,and ran KFU. ADB status online, boot status 4000.....so everything seemed good, from what I've learned. Also looked in Device manager, and it showed up as Android phone, or whatever it's supposed to say. I figure I'm good to go.
My plan is to install TWRP,FFF, and root it, then boot into TWRP, and flash the ROM. The first thing I did(and it seems wrong now) was try to install FFF, instead of TWRP. I think that's the wrong order, but not totally sure if it matters, but it's my assumption that it does.
So, as soon as I sent the command, for some reason, my computer got this blue screen with some message that I didn't have time to read, because it restarted right after. It still said everything looked good, so I tried again to install FFF. I think the "crash" was just coincidental, because it didn't act like that the second time, but whatever.
Anyway.......said it was installing FFF, and then it went to <waiting for device>
I figured ...ok...need to wait.
After about 10 minutes of waiting, I held the power button down until it turned off, then turned it back on, because someone said that's what you should do if this happens. Well, essentially.....since then, I've not seen anything but the Kindle Fire logo on the screen, and it feels like I've tried everything. A forum member spent some time on the phone with me, and we tried everything he knew.....no luck.
At one point, someone told me to uninstall the drivers and reinstall them, which I did, but upon reinstalling them, nothing changed, and the computer no longer even recognizes it being plugged in as a USB device, the drivers don't show now in device manager, even though I told KFU to reinstall them. To me that's weird, and seems like a major problem, because the computer isn't "seeing" the device, but that's mu humble opinion. I'm at a total loss, and would sure appreciate some help bringing this thing back.
Thanks....immensely, in advance!
Make sure you reboot your computer. Also if you can, switch USB ports. Pay attention to your device manager when doing so. Trying on a different computer can also be helpful.
If nothing you do results in any change, it's time to give up on Windows and create a Linux LiveUSB. Linux is extremely stable and pretty easy to set up and send adb/fastboot commands with. If you do decide to take that route, Ubuntu is pretty much the standard and version10.4 generally works better than later versions.
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Make sure you reboot your computer. Also if you can, switch USB ports. Pay attention to your device manager when doing so. Trying on a different computer can also be helpful.
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I rebooted, switched ports, and it didn't seem to change. The computer didn't even recognize it being plugged in. I just plugged in a flash drive, just for fun, and got the message that USB device was detected, so it's not the computer....to me anyway. Also tried plugging the Kindle into my wife's older Dell, and it gave me a message that a USB device connected to the computer wasn't working properly.
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I rebooted, switched ports, and it didn't seem to change. The computer didn't even recognize it being plugged in. I just plugged in a flash drive, just for fun, and got the message that USB device was detected, so it's not the computer....to me anyway. Also tried plugging the Kindle into my wife's older Dell, and it gave me a message that a USB device connected to the computer wasn't working properly.
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Use the KFU on the laptop to install the drivers and see if that makes a difference.
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Use the KFU on the laptop to install the drivers and see if that makes a difference.
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The older Dell is a desktop, is that what you meant? Just try installing drivers via KFU from there?
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The older Dell is a desktop, is that what you meant? Just try installing drivers via KFU from there?
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Yeah, that's what I meant.
Why Windows fails to install/load the drivers for fastboot is really a mystery to me. It obviously has the adb part of it working or you wouldn't be in fastboot in the first place.
You need to provide details on exactly what's going on when Windows attempts to load drivers.
Turn up the sound volume on your computer. With the device connected to your PC, turn it (the Kindle Fire) off and back on. When the device puts itself into fastboot, Windows will provide a series of two tones.
low->high means it's connecting
high->low means it's disconnecting.
If you get the low->high tones without the high->low tones following them up, you should be seeing SOMETHING change in the device manager. Don't gloss over the details with "Android phone whatever" but report what you see. The device drivers post in the beginner's guide has details on what should appear in the device manager.
EDIT: Also do this...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315539
Even with the device disconnected, you should see 4 devices under "Android Phone" if you've managed to get those device drivers installed from KFU.
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Why Windows fails to install/load the drivers for fastboot is really a mystery to me. It obviously has the adb part of it working or you wouldn't be in fastboot in the first place.
You need to provide details on exactly what's going on when Windows attempts to load drivers.
Turn up the sound volume on your computer. With the device connected to your PC, turn it (the Kindle Fire) off and back on. When the device puts itself into fastboot, Windows will provide a series of two tones.
low->high means it's connecting
high->low means it's disconnecting.
If you get the low->high tones without the high->low tones following them up, you should be seeing SOMETHING change in the device manager. Don't gloss over the details with "Android phone whatever" but report what you see. The device drivers post in the beginner's guide has details on what should appear in the device manager.
EDIT: Also do this...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315539
Even with the device disconnected, you should see 4 devices under "Android Phone" if you've managed to get those device drivers installed from KFU.
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I just did exactly what you said......plugged it in, turned it off. Turned volume all the way up, turned it on....no sound of any kind.
The weird part is when I first installed the drivers, I checked it by plugging the device in, and had adb status online, staus 4000, plus I went to the device manager, and I remember two things that said android phone. One said android phone, and the other said android something or other. And, it was seeing the device and everything seemed hunky dory, and I guess at that time it was???
I did uninstall and reinstall the drivers via KFU, and it says it's installing them, but never again have I seen anything in device manger that says Android anything. That is just wrong to me.
Personally I think you're spinning your wheels with Windows and causing yourself more headache than needed.
Create a bootable Linux LiveUSB on a thumb drive with Ubuntu 10.4 and get Android-SDK installed on it.
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I'm starting to think you've killed your bootloader or got a bad flash when your machine crashed. This is why I suggested you flash your recovery first, because you can still fix that through the bootloader if a recovery flash goes wrong.
In any case, I think soupmagnet is right... FireKit is probably the next thing you should try if Windows won't even recognize the device being there. If on top of that, I'm right about your bootloader, you're going to have to crack your case open and put it into USB boot mode because Firekit won't be able to fix that on its own.
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I'm starting to think you've killed your bootloader or got a bad flash when your machine crashed. This is why I suggested you flash your recovery first.
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Trust me.....I realized not too long after that I had done the wrong order. I even had a note to myself right here that said:
TWRP
FFF
Root
For the life of me, I don't know why I did FFF first.
All the questions I asked, and as anal retentive as I am, I totally screwed that part up, which may be the entire problem. Trust me.......I'm pissed.
You should at the very least, set up the Android-SDK on your LinuxUSB and check to see if it's just a driver issue you're dealing with. Linux handles the drivers for Android devices much better, and in most cases, easier than with Windows.
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I'm starting to think you've killed your bootloader or got a bad flash when your machine crashed. This is why I suggested you flash your recovery first, because you can still fix that through the bootloader if a recovery flash goes wrong.
In any case, I think soupmagnet is right... FireKit is probably the next thing you should try if Windows won't even recognize the device being there. If on top of that, I'm right about your bootloader, you're going to have to crack your case open and put it into USB boot mode because Firekit won't be able to fix that on its own.
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Can I ask what Firekit is?
Firekit is a tool used to fix major problems easily. I would use it as a last resort because there isn't a command for just installing TWRP without the bootloader.. Get your Android-SDK installed and I'll help you with the drivers and platform-tools install.
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You should at the very least, set up the Android-SDK on your LinuxUSB and check to see if it's just a driver issue you're dealing with. Linux handles the drivers for Android devices much better, and in most cases, easier than with Windows.
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I'll just be honest and tell you that I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't mean that in a bad way.......I'm not some computer whiz that speaks the same language as a lot of you. Right now I wish I had left the freakin thing alone with Go Launcher Ex and called it a day. I'm really pissed off right now....that's not your fault.
I don't suppose that Factory Cable will do anything for this situation, correct? The guy said he will send it ASAP FWIW.
Had to ask.
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Get your Android-SDK installed and I'll help you with the drivers and platform-tools install.
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Can you kindly tell me how I get to the point you're speaking of?
Sorry....this stuff is foreign language to me.
Do I have to install ubuntu on my computer?
Take a breath...relax. We'll walk you through it.
Get a thumb drive w/approximately 1Gb of storage and create a bootable LiveUSB.
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Take a breath...relax. We'll walk you through it.
Get a thumb drive w/approximately 1Gb of storage and create a bootable LiveUSB.
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Should I trust this method?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB
I know NOTHING about this.
EDIT: Never mind.......that's another OS......damnit!
Can't I just play dumb, and send it back? I hate to say that, but.....
I guess this is it
http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download
^See.......trying as hard as I can to keep a good attitude.
That will work. Download Ubuntu 10.4
I know this has been covered thoroughly in this forum multiple times, and I have really tried to read as many threads as possible before asking.
I rooted my device months ago and finally got a Nexus 7 and want to give my KF to my kids but wanted it stock first. I must have done something in TWRP that removed my bootloader.
I have tried the unbrick tool, I ordered a factory cable from Skorpn (awesome work btw) and by using KFU, my PC can finally see my Kindle.
The problem I'm having is that none of the commands are working and it looks like the bootloader is either bad or completely gone.
It used to turn on and the logo stayed bright. After I used the factory cable it now turns on, blinks, and goes dim.
All the drivers loaded correctly and KFU see's it online.
When I try to reinstall TWRP through KFU it downloads, but is stuck at waiting for device.
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* Activating Fastboot (4002) *
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2433 KB/s (510876 bytes in 0.205s)
- exec '/system/bin/sh' failed: No such file or directory (2) -
- exec '/system/bin/sh' failed: No such file or directory (2) -
The kindle has been told to reboot in Fastboot Mode.
< waiting for device >
After reading further, I think I formatted too much and wiped the SD card partition. It doesn't seem like there is a bootloader at all.
Did I miss something in all the reading?
Thanks.
So after doing even further reading I found
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1638452
I connected the factory cable and the logo is now staying brightly lit, so I assume it's in FB Mode.
I downloaded TWRP based on the link and FFF, but now I don't know what to do with them.
I went to ADB's site and installed SDK, but I'm not sure how to get the cmd portion to sideload TWRP and then FFF.
I'm doing my best to following along in the instructions and went to the ADB site and installed SDK.
I saved it to my C drive but when I try to do the following, along with "adb devices,
c:\Android\android-sdk-windows>
I get:
'adb' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
Update:
NVM, I had it in the wrong directory.
Once I got that figured out, I did an "adb devices" and no devices came back. Of course I have the factory cable connected and I'm not sure if that matters.
Update:
Ok, now I used a standard USB and it sees my device, but now the logo went back to going dim after reboot.
So it looks like my problem is fairly common, however forum searches don't seem to be helping.
It looks like I wiped too much in TWRP.
Now that I finally figured out ADB, I'm confused about the factory cable.
When it's connected ADB does not see my device but the logo is lit bright yellow. When I use a standard cable ADB sees the device but the turns on and goes dim but the logo is still there.
I've downloaded the ZIP files for TWP and FFF, but I can't seem to figure out how to side load them no matter what I do.
I'm about to give up on this.
I decided to go the Soupkit rout and installed ubuntu 11.10 and got my PC to boot to USB.
I followed all the directions but my device is always offline. The only thing I can think of is that the 3rd step says to reboot, when I reboot Soupkit is gone and I have to download it again. When I download it, I save it, drag it to the desktop and extract it there and then run in terminal, use option 1 and then option 2.
I realize forums contain a ton of duplicate posts but I really tried to research and follow all the guides before posting.
Does anyone have any advice?
Update:
Realized I forgot to add persistence to the LiveUSB drive. I'm going to try again.
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I'm about to give up on this.
I decided to go the Soupkit rout and installed ubuntu 11.10 and got my PC to boot to USB.
I followed all the directions but my device is always offline. The only thing I can think of is that the 3rd step says to reboot, when I reboot Soupkit is gone and I have to download it again. When I download it, I save it, drag it to the desktop and extract it there and then run in terminal, use option 1 and then option 2.
I realize forums contain a ton of duplicate posts but I really tried to research and follow all the guides before posting.
Does anyone have any advice?
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Realized I forgot to add persistence to the LiveUSB drive. I'm going to try again.
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Let me know if this soup kit route works. we have the exact same problem going on here... ill live install ubuntu as well, Ill try my hand here shortly, and give you feedback on my testing.
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Let me know if this soup kit route works. we have the exact same problem going on here... ill live install ubuntu as well, Ill try my hand here shortly, and give you feedback on my testing.
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No luck with adding persistence.
I get everything to to boot in Linux, followed all the instructions, but Soupkit still does not see my Kindle.
I've tried my factory cable and a regular cable. No luck
Some has changed though because now my Kindle logo light is solid bright whereas before it would blink and dim.
Good luck to you!
Well I've had a great dialogue with myself, but I fixed it by accident.
You guys do awesome work and I know its frustrating when people ask repeat questions. I thought I had truly given it my best shot before asking, but in the end it was an accident that seem to have fixed it, that and Skorpns factory cable LOL.
Right before I got ready to pitch it in the trash I figured I would try KFU one more time even though it wasn't seeing my Kindle. Device manager saw the ADB drivers in Android device though.
I plugged in the factory cable
Launched KFU
KFU said "offline"
Tried various options until I finally saw the install permanent root with superuser (option 2)
That did the trick
I then unplugged my factory cable from both the PC and KF and booted the KF into recovery
Plugged in a standard USB
I downloaded a ROM (Hashcodes and GAPPS) and side loaded them
That did it!
I'm not sure how or why since it said it was offline but it fixed it.
Can anyone shed light on why KFU said offline but it still took a root?
Also, regarding the factory cable, I read a ton of material on when to use it and why, but not really how. What I mean is when to plug in and when to revert to the standard cable. If I missed that, my apologies.
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Well I've had a great dialogue with myself, but I fixed it by accident.
You guys do awesome work and I know its frustrating when people ask repeat questions. I thought I had truly given it my best shot before asking, but in the end it was an accident that seem to have fixed it, that and Skorpns factory cable LOL.
Right before I got ready to pitch it in the trash I figured I would try KFU one more time even though it wasn't seeing my Kindle. Device manager saw the ADB drivers in Android device though.
I plugged in the factory cable
Launched KFU
KFU said "offline"
Tried various options until I finally saw the install permanent root with superuser (option 2)
That did the trick
I then unplugged my factory cable from both the PC and KF and booted the KF into recovery
Plugged in a standard USB
I downloaded a ROM (Hashcodes and GAPPS) and side loaded them
That did it!
I'm not sure how or why since it said it was offline but it fixed it.
Can anyone shed light on why KFU said offline but it still took a root?
Also, regarding the factory cable, I read a ton of material on when to use it and why, but not really how. What I mean is when to plug in and when to revert to the standard cable. If I missed that, my apologies.
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wow im def. gonna try this seeing how we have similar issues with my kindle fire being recognized with a reg usb and online in kfu but with a boot status of unknown and then not seeing it and status being offline when i plus in the factory cable. also with the regular cables it boots to the cm10 boot logo and then with the factory cable it stays at the kindlefire orange and white cable. only thing im confused on is where you say you
"I then unplugged my factory cable from both the PC and KF and booted the KF into recovery"
how did you reboot to recovery? or this was automatic after option 2? thanks and its awesome you were pretty much able to figure this out on your own. i feel i wont have the same luck
Remi85 said:
wow im def. gonna try this seeing how we have similar issues with my kindle fire being recognized with a reg usb and online in kfu but with a boot status of unknown and then not seeing it and status being offline when i plus in the factory cable. also with the regular cables it boots to the cm10 boot logo and then with the factory cable it stays at the kindlefire orange and white cable. only thing im confused on is where you say you
"I then unplugged my factory cable from both the PC and KF and booted the KF into recovery"
how did you reboot to recovery? or this was automatic after option 2? thanks and its awesome you were pretty much able to figure this out on your own. i feel i wont have the same luck
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When I unplugged the factory cable from the PC and the KF, I could have done 1 of 2 things. Powercycle the KF and hold the power button down to get into TWRP or use a regular USB to side load a ROM and then load it.
Good luck to you, I hope you get it figured out.
Remi85 said:
wow im def. gonna try this seeing how we have similar issues with my kindle fire being recognized with a reg usb and online in kfu but with a boot status of unknown and then not seeing it and status being offline when i plus in the factory cable. also with the regular cables it boots to the cm10 boot logo and then with the factory cable it stays at the kindlefire orange and white cable. only thing im confused on is where you say you
"I then unplugged my factory cable from both the PC and KF and booted the KF into recovery"
how did you reboot to recovery? or this was automatic after option 2? thanks and its awesome you were pretty much able to figure this out on your own. i feel i wont have the same luck
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If you're getting the Kindle Fire orange and white, you haven't installed the new bootloader. Rerun KFU with the Kindle in Fastboot (using Cable) and select install FireFireFire. This will give you the bootloader to reboot to recovery.
Edit: You might as well reinstall TWRP while you're at it, just to be safe.
So I was trying to change my son's Fire 2 over to the new Kit Kat OS, and as I was downloading the necessary files to my computer, I thought I would wipe everything, since he had managed to pretty much fill it with junk, (he's 8). I have TWRP, (2.3.3.0) installed, and used that to wipe everything, including the internal storage and the format data wipe. I have done this with my Fire 1 with no issues, but this time I ran into a problem. TWRP works fine, but now windows won't recognize the tablet. When I go to mount the usb storage to copy the os files over, windows 7 cant load the device drives, and in my device manager it shows the Amazon Kindle fire 2 with the yellow exclamation mark next to it, saying that the drivers for this device are not installed. I have the SDK installed, and I have gone through and re installed the device drivers several times, and also uninstalled the kindle from the device list in manager. Nothing is working. I have attempted fastboot, but when I do try, it gets stuck at the "press the button menu" for TWRP, and after running the fastboot -i 0x1949 getvar product command, it tells me it sees an Otter2-Prod-04.
Does anybody have any ideas or suggestions on how I can get into the usb storage so I can load the OS info? Thanks for any help.
Dead?
Well, I rebooted from TWRP and it just went black. No light when the cable is plugged in, (factory cable), no twenty second reset working, nothing. IS it safe to assume I now have a pretty paperweight, and I should be looking into getting my son another tablet?
xanthian23 said:
Well, I rebooted from TWRP and it just went black. No light when the cable is plugged in, (factory cable), no twenty second reset working, nothing. IS it safe to assume I now have a pretty paperweight, and I should be looking into getting my son another tablet?
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Leave it on the charger overnight. Keep trying 20 second reboot. If you can get back into recovery you can adb sideload a rom into the device.
You've never been able to USB Mount this device from recovery.
Good luck. No reason it should be bricked....
How did you try to get into fast boot? You need a fastboot cable. This device is NOTHING LIKE the kf1.
Edit: also need to be sure exactly which kf2 you have.
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mindmajick said:
Leave it on the charger overnight. Keep trying 20 second reboot. If you can get back into recovery you can adb sideload a rom into the device.
You've never been able to USB Mount this device from recovery.
Good luck. No reason it should be bricked....
How did you try to get into fast boot? You need a fastboot cable. This device is NOTHING LIKE the kf1.
Edit: also need to be sure exactly which kf2 you have.
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I have the standard cheap Kf2, no HD, just the upgrade from the first from last year, (2012), they were selling around Christmas last year. I have tried getting it to start back up, but with no success. I don't even understand why it shut down like that. I hadn't done anything to it other than reboot, which I had done successfully several times before. As for the fastboot, I may be incorrect. I ran the adb command: fastboot -i 0x1949 getvar product in CMD, and then plugged the kindle in and booted up. It showed it was an otter4 or something like that, which I thought meant it was in fastboot. At that time I was using my S4 usb cable. I'm sure I can sort out ho to sideload a rom via adb if I can ever get it started back up again. I had thought about opening it up and unplugging the battery and then re-plugging it back it to try to reset it, but I doubt it will help. Would getting a fastboot cable possibly make it start back up? If anyone has any suggestions on how I can get this thing started up again I would greatly appreciate it. I fell like crap for bricking my kids kindle, he's 8, so it's really important to him. It'll take me several months to save up to buy another one, so if I can get it running again, that would be awesome.
Here's a bit of an oddity, and maybe this spells some hope for me yet. So I plug the KF2 into the computer with the factory cable, hold down the power button for twenty seconds, let go, and then hit the power button again, for about a second, and windows makes the usb device plugged in sound, followed by a usb rejected or not recognized sound. It repeats this over and over for about thirty seconds or so and then stops. So there is something going on with the kindle, and its not flat out dead, or at least it seems. Is this a good sign? Does this help anyone to figure out what I might need to do?
So just to be sure that I was using a fastboot cable, even though I believe that my samsung s4 cable is fastboot capable, and I'm pretty sure I am using the factory cable, (it's not marked so I can't be 100% sure), I built my own fastboot cable, via instructions on how to do so on xda. (found HERE) It's doing the same thing with windows making the usb device inserted / recognized sound, followed by the usb device error sound. I'm guessing that this is a bad thing, am I correct?
One more bit of information to add to the list. I attempted to do the fastboot mode again,and decided to watch my device manager. Whenever windows chimes off that it detects a usb device, something called OMAP 4430 pops up for about a second before disappearing when the error sound comes on. I'm going to try and get a driver for that, just to see what happens. Maybe it'll help. I doubt it, but you never know until you try...
This just keeps getting weirder and weirder. So I installed the omap driver for windows and android, and now windows recognizes the device, but only for about a second. It just keeps cycling through the usb connected sound, recognizing the omap device, and then the usb disconnected sound, as though the device were being plugged in and then unplugged about every second for roughly thirty seconds. I'm starting to think there is something seriously wrong, which bites. If anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears.
That's a hard brick' we can't use the usboot/aboot utility to fix the device like you can on other omap devices because we need a certain signed file to fix the boot loader. Only amazon has that file and they aren't giving it out. There is a way to recover your device from a hard brick but you need to be good with a soldering iron and have a USB sdcard reader, the kind that kinda is like a flashdrive rather than the multi type readers and some really small wire. Kurohyou wrote a tutorial on how to fix it in the kf2 dev section, not sure if he ever added the part in on how to reflash the boot loader from Linux, but if you take this route and try to fix it I wouldn't mind helping.
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stunts513 said:
That's a hard brick' we can't use the usboot/aboot utility to fix the device like you can on other omap devices because we need a certain signed file to fix the boot loader. Only amazon has that file and they aren't giving it out. There is a way to recover your device from a hard brick but you need to be good with a soldering iron and have a USB sdcard reader, the kind that kinda is like a flashdrive rather than the multi type readers and some really small wire. Kurohyou wrote a tutorial on how to fix it in the kf2 dev section, not sure if he ever added the part in on how to reflash the boot loader from Linux, but if you take this route and try to fix it I wouldn't mind helping.
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OK, I have both a tf - micro sd card usb card reader, and a full sd card usb card reader. I'll have to go digging for them in the morning, but I think I can find them. I'm also really good with a soldering iron, (used to be a vcr / tv repair technician), It took me roughly two minutes to do the homemade factory cable. So I am game, especially since at this point I really have nothing to loose by trying. Would you mind posting a link to where the tutorial is? I'm going to go looking for it, but just in case I can't find it, a link would help. And thank you so much for this suggestion!
OK, I found the tutorial on how to wire everything up and what's needed. I'll have to go get some small wire and a better tip for my iron, but aside form that, the wiring and soldering seems simple enough. My problem is going to be dealing with linux. I know Windows backwards and forwards, but I have a pretty limited knowledge of linux, aside from a few things we did in school to cover general PC repair. I can get it up an running, which I will do tomorrow, but I may need some help sorting out what to do with it once I have the board lined up and ready to roll, which will have to wait till next week when I get back from a work trip. Do you know if kurohyou offers repairs? If it's not too expensive, I would be willing to pay for the fix.
He might repair it, he just made a solderless repair tool to repair them. But like I said I'm more than willing to help with the Linux side, I'm a PC tech myself and use Linux primarily, you can basically burn an ubuntu live CD or put it on a USB stick and boot into the entire os without having to install it, from there's its as simple as plugging the device into the PC, and seeing what device path it assigned to the kindle's emmc, and running a dd command to flash the boot loader back onto the device.
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stunts513 said:
... you can basically burn an ubuntu live CD or put it on a USB stick and boot into the entire os without having to install it, from there's its as simple as plugging the device into the PC, and seeing what device path it assigned to the kindle's emmc, and running a dd command to flash the boot loader back onto the device.
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Yeah, I've ran a live usb version of unbuntu a few times, and in the past I have had the full version on my system, but I rarely ever used it, so I got rid of it. I have an extra 600 gig's of space just sitting around on my laptop, so I will install a full version, and get off my lazy rear and start learning linux. This should be a good first lesson. I can't do any of this until next week though, so I will be pm'ing you once I've gotten everythig hooked up and ready to go. Thanks again for the help.
I had a question about the repair though. I went through the discussion, and I may have just missed it, but did he ever figure out how to get the OS up and running? From what I could tell, he was still working on it, and hadn't managed to get a working rom loaded. I probably just either missed it, or didn't understand one of the post's.
This post is coming after hours upon hours and days upon days of research, trial, and no success. Hopefully someone can help me out...
I was asked to work on a "bricked Kindle" due to a reputaion among friends and co-workers of being the "go to" guy for rooting, custom ROMs, and the like. I am familiar with adb, fastboot, etc, and have used them often. Even though I didn't know what had happened to this particular Kindle, I was confident I could fix it.
I got it and began investigating. It powered on and FFF 1.4a popped up, followed by the stock Kindle logo where it stayed. I rebooted and used FFF to boot to Recovery, which is TWRP 2.6.3.1. Further checking found that there is no ROM installed, only FFF and TWRP, nothing else. I thought "This will be easy!". Wrong...
I connected it to my Windows 7 PC and ... nothing. Didn't even show as anything being connected at all. Installed drivers, still no luck. ADB doesn't see it either. Tried using 'mount' in TWRP, nope. Then began my trip down the numerous fixit programs KFU, FireKit, ReKindle, etc. Not a thing. Linux doesn't see it either. Like it is not even connected. Even tried the USB Shorting Trick, still wont register on anything, as anything. Bought a Fasboot "Factory" Cable, still nothing. My only hope at this point is the terminal in TWRP. I have successfully run various commands in there, verified the different boot modes with idme. Found that it did change to Fastboot (4002) and back to Normal (4000) when asked. Attempted to use Parted for some investigation but it is difficult to use in that terminal. I did discover that several partitions are screwed up. How to fix them is beyond my expertise. My thought at the moment is to wipe the thing 100%, partitions and all, to see if I can then connect at least with FK or something to reformat and put FFF and TWRP back on (latest versions). Also when looking through the logs in the terminal, it listed failures with an OMAP clock file.
The original owner told me he knew it couldn't be fixed and told me to keep it. I think it is still possible to salvage it. Any ideas?
Thanks.
kyle8b16 said:
This post is coming after hours upon hours and days upon days of research, trial, and no success. Hopefully someone can help me out...
I was asked to work on a "bricked Kindle" due to a reputaion among friends and co-workers of being the "go to" guy for rooting, custom ROMs, and the like. I am familiar with adb, fastboot, etc, and have used them often. Even though I didn't know what had happened to this particular Kindle, I was confident I could fix it.
I got it and began investigating. It powered on and FFF 1.4a popped up, followed by the stock Kindle logo where it stayed. I rebooted and used FFF to boot to Recovery, which is TWRP 2.6.3.1. Further checking found that there is no ROM installed, only FFF and TWRP, nothing else. I thought "This will be easy!". Wrong...
I connected it to my Windows 7 PC and ... nothing. Didn't even show as anything being connected at all. Installed drivers, still no luck. ADB doesn't see it either. Tried using 'mount' in TWRP, nope. Then began my trip down the numerous fixit programs KFU, FireKit, ReKindle, etc. Not a thing. Linux doesn't see it either. Like it is not even connected. Even tried the USB Shorting Trick, still wont register on anything, as anything. Bought a Fasboot "Factory" Cable, still nothing. My only hope at this point is the terminal in TWRP. I have successfully run various commands in there, verified the different boot modes with idme. Found that it did change to Fastboot (4002) and back to Normal (4000) when asked. Attempted to use Parted for some investigation but it is difficult to use in that terminal. I did discover that several partitions are screwed up. How to fix them is beyond my expertise. My thought at the moment is to wipe the thing 100%, partitions and all, to see if I can then connect at least with FK or something to reformat and put FFF and TWRP back on (latest versions). Also when looking through the logs in the terminal, it listed failures with an OMAP clock file.
The original owner told me he knew it couldn't be fixed and told me to keep it. I think it is still possible to salvage it. Any ideas?
Thanks.
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If you want to re-do the partitions and install the very latest bootloader and TWRP +ROM, you should install otterX (1st gen only!!). Follow the steps in this link and you'll be fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2671619
kyle8b16 said:
This post is coming after hours upon hours and days upon days of research, trial, and no success. Hopefully someone can help me out...
I was asked to work on a "bricked Kindle" due to a reputaion among friends and co-workers of being the "go to" guy for rooting, custom ROMs, and the like. I am familiar with adb, fastboot, etc, and have used them often. Even though I didn't know what had happened to this particular Kindle, I was confident I could fix it.
I got it and began investigating. It powered on and FFF 1.4a popped up, followed by the stock Kindle logo where it stayed. I rebooted and used FFF to boot to Recovery, which is TWRP 2.6.3.1. Further checking found that there is no ROM installed, only FFF and TWRP, nothing else. I thought "This will be easy!". Wrong...
I connected it to my Windows 7 PC and ... nothing. Didn't even show as anything being connected at all. Installed drivers, still no luck. ADB doesn't see it either. Tried using 'mount' in TWRP, nope. Then began my trip down the numerous fixit programs KFU, FireKit, ReKindle, etc. Not a thing. Linux doesn't see it either. Like it is not even connected. Even tried the USB Shorting Trick, still wont register on anything, as anything. Bought a Fasboot "Factory" Cable, still nothing. My only hope at this point is the terminal in TWRP. I have successfully run various commands in there, verified the different boot modes with idme. Found that it did change to Fastboot (4002) and back to Normal (4000) when asked. Attempted to use Parted for some investigation but it is difficult to use in that terminal. I did discover that several partitions are screwed up. How to fix them is beyond my expertise. My thought at the moment is to wipe the thing 100%, partitions and all, to see if I can then connect at least with FK or something to reformat and put FFF and TWRP back on (latest versions). Also when looking through the logs in the terminal, it listed failures with an OMAP clock file.
The original owner told me he knew it couldn't be fixed and told me to keep it. I think it is still possible to salvage it. Any ideas?
Thanks.
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Even people think of me as a 'go to' guy. I love that respect
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Sounds like the USB port could be bad.
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Wish I could...
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If you want to re-do the partitions and install the very latest bootloader and TWRP +ROM, you should install otterX (1st gen only!!). Follow the steps in this link and you'll be fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2671619
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I would like to give that a try but the problem is that I cant push anything to the device w/ adb at the moment. No computer, Linux or Windows, will recognize it at all (not even incorrectly). I thought initially that the usb port on the Kindle was bad but I can get it to react differently when it is plugged in vs not. For example, when the fastboot cable is connected it stops at the FFF boot screen as if it is in fastboot, but nothing recognizes it and fastboot doesn't work. When I connect to the computer with a regular cable it will turn the Kindle on and charge it, but no connection. I am still leaning toward it being some kind of software problem on the Kindle.
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kyle8b16 said:
I would like to give that a try but the problem is that I cant push anything to the device w/ adb at the moment. No computer, Linux or Windows, will recognize it at all (not even incorrectly). I thought initially that the usb port on the Kindle was bad but I can get it to react differently when it is plugged in vs not. For example, when the fastboot cable is connected it stops at the FFF boot screen as if it is in fastboot, but nothing recognizes it and fastboot doesn't work. When I connect to the computer with a regular cable it will turn the Kindle on and charge it, but no connection. I am still leaning toward it being some kind of software problem on the Kindle.
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Hi, Noob here but I faced a similar situation to you just last week. The ONLY thing that helped me is a tool known as Return2Stock by N2A. Since I am new, I cannot post outside links but I made a post on reddit in the kindle fire "hot" section titled Bricked Kindle Fire With No Access to TWRP (it's on the first page about halfway down. It describes what I had to do in order to get it working. But it did work! And I tried EVERYTHING. Good luck