A few of you know me already from my thread where I asked a million questions before attempting to install a custom ROM on my new KF. Well, it still went completely south somehow, so here I am.
So, I'm stuck with the stock Kindle Fire logo on the screen, and and can't get it to go anywhere.
Here's what I did:
Downloaded KFU, installed the drivers, plugged in the Kindle,and ran KFU. ADB status online, boot status 4000.....so everything seemed good, from what I've learned. Also looked in Device manager, and it showed up as Android phone, or whatever it's supposed to say. I figure I'm good to go.
My plan is to install TWRP,FFF, and root it, then boot into TWRP, and flash the ROM. The first thing I did(and it seems wrong now) was try to install FFF, instead of TWRP. I think that's the wrong order, but not totally sure if it matters, but it's my assumption that it does.
So, as soon as I sent the command, for some reason, my computer got this blue screen with some message that I didn't have time to read, because it restarted right after. It still said everything looked good, so I tried again to install FFF. I think the "crash" was just coincidental, because it didn't act like that the second time, but whatever.
Anyway.......said it was installing FFF, and then it went to <waiting for device>
I figured ...ok...need to wait.
After about 10 minutes of waiting, I held the power button down until it turned off, then turned it back on, because someone said that's what you should do if this happens. Well, essentially.....since then, I've not seen anything but the Kindle Fire logo on the screen, and it feels like I've tried everything. A forum member spent some time on the phone with me, and we tried everything he knew.....no luck.
At one point, someone told me to uninstall the drivers and reinstall them, which I did, but upon reinstalling them, nothing changed, and the computer no longer even recognizes it being plugged in as a USB device, the drivers don't show now in device manager, even though I told KFU to reinstall them. To me that's weird, and seems like a major problem, because the computer isn't "seeing" the device, but that's mu humble opinion. I'm at a total loss, and would sure appreciate some help bringing this thing back.
Thanks....immensely, in advance!
Make sure you reboot your computer. Also if you can, switch USB ports. Pay attention to your device manager when doing so. Trying on a different computer can also be helpful.
If nothing you do results in any change, it's time to give up on Windows and create a Linux LiveUSB. Linux is extremely stable and pretty easy to set up and send adb/fastboot commands with. If you do decide to take that route, Ubuntu is pretty much the standard and version10.4 generally works better than later versions.
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Make sure you reboot your computer. Also if you can, switch USB ports. Pay attention to your device manager when doing so. Trying on a different computer can also be helpful.
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I rebooted, switched ports, and it didn't seem to change. The computer didn't even recognize it being plugged in. I just plugged in a flash drive, just for fun, and got the message that USB device was detected, so it's not the computer....to me anyway. Also tried plugging the Kindle into my wife's older Dell, and it gave me a message that a USB device connected to the computer wasn't working properly.
soulweeper51 said:
I rebooted, switched ports, and it didn't seem to change. The computer didn't even recognize it being plugged in. I just plugged in a flash drive, just for fun, and got the message that USB device was detected, so it's not the computer....to me anyway. Also tried plugging the Kindle into my wife's older Dell, and it gave me a message that a USB device connected to the computer wasn't working properly.
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Use the KFU on the laptop to install the drivers and see if that makes a difference.
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Use the KFU on the laptop to install the drivers and see if that makes a difference.
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The older Dell is a desktop, is that what you meant? Just try installing drivers via KFU from there?
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The older Dell is a desktop, is that what you meant? Just try installing drivers via KFU from there?
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Yeah, that's what I meant.
Why Windows fails to install/load the drivers for fastboot is really a mystery to me. It obviously has the adb part of it working or you wouldn't be in fastboot in the first place.
You need to provide details on exactly what's going on when Windows attempts to load drivers.
Turn up the sound volume on your computer. With the device connected to your PC, turn it (the Kindle Fire) off and back on. When the device puts itself into fastboot, Windows will provide a series of two tones.
low->high means it's connecting
high->low means it's disconnecting.
If you get the low->high tones without the high->low tones following them up, you should be seeing SOMETHING change in the device manager. Don't gloss over the details with "Android phone whatever" but report what you see. The device drivers post in the beginner's guide has details on what should appear in the device manager.
EDIT: Also do this...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315539
Even with the device disconnected, you should see 4 devices under "Android Phone" if you've managed to get those device drivers installed from KFU.
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Why Windows fails to install/load the drivers for fastboot is really a mystery to me. It obviously has the adb part of it working or you wouldn't be in fastboot in the first place.
You need to provide details on exactly what's going on when Windows attempts to load drivers.
Turn up the sound volume on your computer. With the device connected to your PC, turn it (the Kindle Fire) off and back on. When the device puts itself into fastboot, Windows will provide a series of two tones.
low->high means it's connecting
high->low means it's disconnecting.
If you get the low->high tones without the high->low tones following them up, you should be seeing SOMETHING change in the device manager. Don't gloss over the details with "Android phone whatever" but report what you see. The device drivers post in the beginner's guide has details on what should appear in the device manager.
EDIT: Also do this...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315539
Even with the device disconnected, you should see 4 devices under "Android Phone" if you've managed to get those device drivers installed from KFU.
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I just did exactly what you said......plugged it in, turned it off. Turned volume all the way up, turned it on....no sound of any kind.
The weird part is when I first installed the drivers, I checked it by plugging the device in, and had adb status online, staus 4000, plus I went to the device manager, and I remember two things that said android phone. One said android phone, and the other said android something or other. And, it was seeing the device and everything seemed hunky dory, and I guess at that time it was???
I did uninstall and reinstall the drivers via KFU, and it says it's installing them, but never again have I seen anything in device manger that says Android anything. That is just wrong to me.
Personally I think you're spinning your wheels with Windows and causing yourself more headache than needed.
Create a bootable Linux LiveUSB on a thumb drive with Ubuntu 10.4 and get Android-SDK installed on it.
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I'm starting to think you've killed your bootloader or got a bad flash when your machine crashed. This is why I suggested you flash your recovery first, because you can still fix that through the bootloader if a recovery flash goes wrong.
In any case, I think soupmagnet is right... FireKit is probably the next thing you should try if Windows won't even recognize the device being there. If on top of that, I'm right about your bootloader, you're going to have to crack your case open and put it into USB boot mode because Firekit won't be able to fix that on its own.
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I'm starting to think you've killed your bootloader or got a bad flash when your machine crashed. This is why I suggested you flash your recovery first.
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Trust me.....I realized not too long after that I had done the wrong order. I even had a note to myself right here that said:
TWRP
FFF
Root
For the life of me, I don't know why I did FFF first.
All the questions I asked, and as anal retentive as I am, I totally screwed that part up, which may be the entire problem. Trust me.......I'm pissed.
You should at the very least, set up the Android-SDK on your LinuxUSB and check to see if it's just a driver issue you're dealing with. Linux handles the drivers for Android devices much better, and in most cases, easier than with Windows.
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I'm starting to think you've killed your bootloader or got a bad flash when your machine crashed. This is why I suggested you flash your recovery first, because you can still fix that through the bootloader if a recovery flash goes wrong.
In any case, I think soupmagnet is right... FireKit is probably the next thing you should try if Windows won't even recognize the device being there. If on top of that, I'm right about your bootloader, you're going to have to crack your case open and put it into USB boot mode because Firekit won't be able to fix that on its own.
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Can I ask what Firekit is?
Firekit is a tool used to fix major problems easily. I would use it as a last resort because there isn't a command for just installing TWRP without the bootloader.. Get your Android-SDK installed and I'll help you with the drivers and platform-tools install.
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You should at the very least, set up the Android-SDK on your LinuxUSB and check to see if it's just a driver issue you're dealing with. Linux handles the drivers for Android devices much better, and in most cases, easier than with Windows.
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I'll just be honest and tell you that I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't mean that in a bad way.......I'm not some computer whiz that speaks the same language as a lot of you. Right now I wish I had left the freakin thing alone with Go Launcher Ex and called it a day. I'm really pissed off right now....that's not your fault.
I don't suppose that Factory Cable will do anything for this situation, correct? The guy said he will send it ASAP FWIW.
Had to ask.
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Get your Android-SDK installed and I'll help you with the drivers and platform-tools install.
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Can you kindly tell me how I get to the point you're speaking of?
Sorry....this stuff is foreign language to me.
Do I have to install ubuntu on my computer?
Take a breath...relax. We'll walk you through it.
Get a thumb drive w/approximately 1Gb of storage and create a bootable LiveUSB.
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Take a breath...relax. We'll walk you through it.
Get a thumb drive w/approximately 1Gb of storage and create a bootable LiveUSB.
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Should I trust this method?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB
I know NOTHING about this.
EDIT: Never mind.......that's another OS......damnit!
Can't I just play dumb, and send it back? I hate to say that, but.....
I guess this is it
http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download
^See.......trying as hard as I can to keep a good attitude.
That will work. Download Ubuntu 10.4
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Alright folks, I would like to start off with a little introduction:
I'm extremely new to the rooting scene, i've been jailbreaking iphones and ipods since day one. That being said, I probably should have spent more time researching this technique before I went through with it.
Fast forward to today:
I tried rooting my device awhile back, wasn't a 100% successful and I really didn't have the time to work it out. I did have FFF installed and the next window (which i'm not exactly sure what it's called, which allowed me to boot in various moods and such)
Earlier today I got stuck in a boot loop, where my kindle would turn off as soon as i restarted it, and after i selected normal boot mode. I decided it would be a good idea to try a different boot option, so i tried the FF boot, which completely ruined my day.
My current situation is as follows:
I'm currently stuck on the first FFF screen (yellow triangle, with the green light on), i can do nothing else from that screen except hard (cold) reboots. When i plug my kindle in (Mac, windows 7, windows XP), the device is not recognized and i get zero response. I've tried a decent amount of suggestions on this forum, including Kindle fire unbrick (Which can somehow see that there adb is installed, but the bootmode is unknown)
Help out of this current situation would be wonderful. I'm really in a jam here.
Sounds like you are stuck in fastboot and you might have a dead battery too.
You should read this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547
1st post for background information, 2nd post for making sure your device drivers are loading/working, and the 3rd post for fastboot and adb commands. You'll probably need to use fastboot to change the bootmode back to normal.
This one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623244
address dead battery problems. You might be affect this by this one as well.
Thanks for the reply,
I read pieces of the first one before I posted on this thread. The KF was 100% charged and i only used it for about 15mins before the whole crashing problem occurred, so i highly doubt it's a low battery issue.
The screen that i'm stuck on is actually the recovery screen. After reading the article in it's entirety, i'm still not exactly sure what to do. My problem is that i cannot get my kindle fire to be recognized as any type of USB device on any type of computer. Wouldn't that issue need to be addressed before i can go about doing anything else? Or will drivers see what my computer think is not there?
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Thanks for the reply,
I read pieces of the first one before I posted on this thread. The KF was 100% charged and i only used it for about 15mins before the whole crashing problem occurred, so i highly doubt it's a low battery issue.
The screen that i'm stuck on is actually the recovery screen. After reading the article in it's entirety, i'm still not exactly sure what to do. My problem is that i cannot get my kindle fire to be recognized as any type of USB device on any type of computer. Wouldn't that issue need to be addressed before i can go about doing anything else? Or will drivers see what my computer think is not there?
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What do you mean by recovery screen? Because your first post said FFF and that's your bootloader. If the yellow triangle boot logo comes up and that's all that the display does (doesn't go black and redisplay the boot logo), then it's in fastboot mode. Windows should give you an indication that it's connecting with a series of 2 connection beeps (low->high tone) without a following set of disconnect beeps (high->low tone). The device manager will show something new in the list (this is covered in post #2 in the first URL I pasted for you).
Yes, you need to get something to get recognized by your computer then you need to install the proper drivers for it. Look at post #2 again, and see if you can figure out what device is appearing in the list and get the drivers loaded for it. If you get absolutely nothing, there's something wrong with the bootloader, your USB cable, USB port, or computer in general and it's a bigger problem.
If nothing happens on your computer, find another one and hook it up there. You might also look at this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430038
and see if Linux can help you.
I'm sorry, I was mistaken. I am stuck in Fastboot mode, The one with the yellow triangle. I get zero indication from Windows device manager list, or beeps (same on my mac). I have tried 3 different cables, so i highly doubt that's the problem either.
My next step is the linux distro, which i will get back to you with when I get everything installed. My only concern is that the linux distribution isn't going to recognize the USB either (seeing as 2 other operating systems haven't) and that there's something inherently wrong with my kindle. In which case i'm ****ed? or is there any chance that amazon will take it back?
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I'm sorry, I was mistaken. I am stuck in Fastboot mode, The one with the yellow triangle. I get zero indication from Windows device manager list, or beeps (same on my mac). I have tried 3 different cables, so i highly doubt that's the problem either.
My next step is the linux distro, which i will get back to you with when I get everything installed. My only concern is that the linux distribution isn't going to recognize the USB either (seeing as 2 other operating systems haven't) and that there's something inherently wrong with my kindle. In which case i'm ****ed? or is there any chance that amazon will take it back?
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Windows will be the only one that of the three that will beep at you. There's a better chance of you getting something done with Linux, but it's starting to sound like a bootloader problem to me. There's another user with a similar problem to yours and he's basically where you are now. Both of you might have to open up the case and get it to USB boot mode where you can upload a bootloader to it through USB. Try Firekit and see if it gets anywhere.
So guys I feel so very stupid right now because I completely did this to myself and I realized what I did after the fact and now I am stuck with a KF that is booting up and then crashing and rebooting after about 20-30 seconds.... I decided that I wanted to have a stock ROM on the fire backup up if for some reason I wanted to go back to that UI. I made a nandroid and then flashed the 6.3.1.zip file that i downloaded from amazon's website. Have you spotted the mistake already? that's right, i forgot to wipe the cache and system and now I have a broken KF.... does anyone know what I can do to recover from this horrific boot loop? perhaps a hard reset of some sort that will erase everything so I can start from scratch? or at least have a stock fire?? thanks in advance for any help, such a n00b mistake....
If you think it helps, I CAN access the "SD" memory but I haven't had success with ADB
If you can reach the sdcard then you should have adb..... AFTER reinstalling the drivers.. try that..
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If you can reach the sdcard then you should have adb..... AFTER reinstalling the drivers.. try that..
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Disconnect KF, shut it off, reinstall driver and finally connect the KF to the computer.
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If you can reach the sdcard then you should have adb..... AFTER reinstalling the drivers.. try that..
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Two odd things: I rooted the kindle using this computer, so you would think that the drivers would be fine but for some reason it is not working. I ran the install_drivers.bat from KFU and it installs fine but then if i go back to device manager it says that these drivers "WPD FileSystem Volume Driver" is installed and when I try to install the adb drivers it says that the best driver for the device is already installed which is the WPD FileSystem Volume Driver and if I try to uninstall the drivers, it seems like it doesn't do anything at all. I will uninstall the drivers, disconnect and then reconnect the kindle and then it shows up with the same drivers again! any suggestions? I would really like to be able to use my kindle again...
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Two odd things: I rooted the kindle using this computer, so you would think that the drivers would be fine but for some reason it is not working. I ran the install_drivers.bat from KFU and it installs fine but then if i go back to device manager it says that these drivers "WPD FileSystem Volume Driver" is installed and when I try to install the adb drivers it says that the best driver for the device is already installed which is the WPD FileSystem Volume Driver and if I try to uninstall the drivers, it seems like it doesn't do anything at all. I will uninstall the drivers, disconnect and then reconnect the kindle and then it shows up with the same drivers again! any suggestions? I would really like to be able to use my kindle again...
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Uninstall the drivers from device manager first, then run install_drivers.bat
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Thought I saw someone else with this problem a bit ago. Found this link. Maybe it will help a bit.
http://forum.soft32.com/windows/Microsoft-WPD-FileSystem-Volume-Driver-bootup-ftopict347023.html
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Uninstall the drivers from device manager first, then run install_drivers.bat
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It's very strange, the install_drivers.bat seems to be installing drivers for a device that it is not associating with my kindle so every time I try to uninstall, it just comes back. It's really strange too because ALL of my computers are doing this... would I be better off if i tried from a linux machine rather than windows? from what I've gathered this default driver is a windows/microsoft substitute for mass storage that it doesn't know what else to do with. Is it possible that even though android is clearly running (even though it is only for a little while) that it is unable to communicate with the computer at all?
this is mostly a bump, not sure if it will work but I still haven't had any luck. I was grounded on my XP machine when it wouldn't install the drivers because they were unsigned... saw a tutorial on how to fix that but it was very confusing and unclear. But if anyone has had this problem or has ANY suggestions I am all ears. The kindle was a christmas gift from my parents and I really wish I had just left it alone now. ("if it ain't broke, don't fix it")
It is really much harder on xp to sort out the driver issue acesss to a machine running at least windows 7 would help you out alot. Otherwise go through the process of downloading the Java development kit and using sdk manager to acquire the platform tools for android 2.3 make sure you grab the Google driver this one is signed .
I have no problem putting the jdk and sdk on my personal computers but the xp machine is my mom's so I'm not going to put those on. I thought there would be no problem if i could have used the install_drivers.bat but that turned out to be a bust. Besides that, I wasn't able to find the kindle in the device manager...
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I have no problem putting the jdk and sdk on my personal computers but the xp machine is my mom's so I'm not going to put those on. I thought there would be no problem if i could have used the install_drivers.bat but that turned out to be a bust. Besides that, I wasn't able to find the kindle in the device manager...
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Your last sentence tells me that you might not be sure what you are looking for in the device manager.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23747671&postcount=2
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Your last sentence tells me that you might not be sure what you are looking for in the device manager.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23747671&postcount=2
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I really appreciate your help. I've actually been trying to use your guide to see if there was anything I missed. Unfortunately I've not had very much luck. Honestly I've gotten to the point that I would be willing to pay someone if they were confident that they could fix it and I would even pay the shipping both ways. I just want to try to use a linux box to fix it and if I am still unable to communicate with the device through ADB I would be willing to employ anyone from these forums with enough knowledge that they are confident that they could fix it to do it for me. As long as the price was reasonable, of course, keeping in mind that I could buy a refurbished one from amazon for $160 so paying 70-100 would be outlandish... I bought a new HDD for my pc so I could boot linux (I hate dual boots) and after that comes and I still have no luck I will be seeing if anyone would be interested. It's probably a great learning opportunity as well and would be a great addition to the forums if we know what to do when something like this happens.
What OS were you basing this guide from out of curiosity?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26491884
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Thank you so much, this will certainly come in handy! I've actually used Ubuntu 11.04 before and I really liked it aside from a few bugs that I didn't feel like dealing with that eventually led me to switch back to windows. So, hopefully this will be the end all in terms of android/kindle fire issues.
okay so, I finally got a hard drive today for my laptop. Booted up Ubuntu 12.04 and used andadb.sh to install all of the necessary software. However, I am not able to connect to my kindle through adb, even on linux. Is there something I may have done wrong somehow? I used the adb_usb.ini from KFU, I don't know for sure that was correct but soup didn't put a link up on his guide so I made an educated guess. I am amazed that nobody has had this problem before, it seems like a very easy mistake to make, at least it was for me! as always, any suggestions will be greatly appreciated!
Try sudo fastboot devices
I'm sorry is this a command? I'm not very familiar with linux you might need to hold my hand on this one. and I tried to adb devices and nothing was listed, will using sudo fastboot devices make a difference? again, sorry for the ignorance, I will try it, I am just addressing concerns.
What bootloader are you using just give me a refresh of your situation so I don't have to read I'm at work but I can still help ya.
okay so basically I don't have a bootloader or recovery because I was planning on rerooting after reinstalling the stock amazon android, only problem is that I forgot to wipe before installing the OS and now I have a Frankenstein amazon gingerbread which is competing with the ICS i had previously installed on the device and continues to crash after about 20 seconds being on and reboots. I am able to access the sd memory, even when it is rebooting but I haven't had any successful connection using adb. If I had, I would imagine I could just reflash twrp and fff and I would then wipe and install a ROM and be good to go but as of now I just have a constantly bootcycling KF that for some reason has no precedent for repairing.
Shutdown and reboot the phone
I know this has been covered thoroughly in this forum multiple times, and I have really tried to read as many threads as possible before asking.
I rooted my device months ago and finally got a Nexus 7 and want to give my KF to my kids but wanted it stock first. I must have done something in TWRP that removed my bootloader.
I have tried the unbrick tool, I ordered a factory cable from Skorpn (awesome work btw) and by using KFU, my PC can finally see my Kindle.
The problem I'm having is that none of the commands are working and it looks like the bootloader is either bad or completely gone.
It used to turn on and the logo stayed bright. After I used the factory cable it now turns on, blinks, and goes dim.
All the drivers loaded correctly and KFU see's it online.
When I try to reinstall TWRP through KFU it downloads, but is stuck at waiting for device.
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* Activating Fastboot (4002) *
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2433 KB/s (510876 bytes in 0.205s)
- exec '/system/bin/sh' failed: No such file or directory (2) -
- exec '/system/bin/sh' failed: No such file or directory (2) -
The kindle has been told to reboot in Fastboot Mode.
< waiting for device >
After reading further, I think I formatted too much and wiped the SD card partition. It doesn't seem like there is a bootloader at all.
Did I miss something in all the reading?
Thanks.
So after doing even further reading I found
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1638452
I connected the factory cable and the logo is now staying brightly lit, so I assume it's in FB Mode.
I downloaded TWRP based on the link and FFF, but now I don't know what to do with them.
I went to ADB's site and installed SDK, but I'm not sure how to get the cmd portion to sideload TWRP and then FFF.
I'm doing my best to following along in the instructions and went to the ADB site and installed SDK.
I saved it to my C drive but when I try to do the following, along with "adb devices,
c:\Android\android-sdk-windows>
I get:
'adb' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
Update:
NVM, I had it in the wrong directory.
Once I got that figured out, I did an "adb devices" and no devices came back. Of course I have the factory cable connected and I'm not sure if that matters.
Update:
Ok, now I used a standard USB and it sees my device, but now the logo went back to going dim after reboot.
So it looks like my problem is fairly common, however forum searches don't seem to be helping.
It looks like I wiped too much in TWRP.
Now that I finally figured out ADB, I'm confused about the factory cable.
When it's connected ADB does not see my device but the logo is lit bright yellow. When I use a standard cable ADB sees the device but the turns on and goes dim but the logo is still there.
I've downloaded the ZIP files for TWP and FFF, but I can't seem to figure out how to side load them no matter what I do.
I'm about to give up on this.
I decided to go the Soupkit rout and installed ubuntu 11.10 and got my PC to boot to USB.
I followed all the directions but my device is always offline. The only thing I can think of is that the 3rd step says to reboot, when I reboot Soupkit is gone and I have to download it again. When I download it, I save it, drag it to the desktop and extract it there and then run in terminal, use option 1 and then option 2.
I realize forums contain a ton of duplicate posts but I really tried to research and follow all the guides before posting.
Does anyone have any advice?
Update:
Realized I forgot to add persistence to the LiveUSB drive. I'm going to try again.
Copcheck said:
I'm about to give up on this.
I decided to go the Soupkit rout and installed ubuntu 11.10 and got my PC to boot to USB.
I followed all the directions but my device is always offline. The only thing I can think of is that the 3rd step says to reboot, when I reboot Soupkit is gone and I have to download it again. When I download it, I save it, drag it to the desktop and extract it there and then run in terminal, use option 1 and then option 2.
I realize forums contain a ton of duplicate posts but I really tried to research and follow all the guides before posting.
Does anyone have any advice?
Update:
Realized I forgot to add persistence to the LiveUSB drive. I'm going to try again.
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Let me know if this soup kit route works. we have the exact same problem going on here... ill live install ubuntu as well, Ill try my hand here shortly, and give you feedback on my testing.
leroy329 said:
Let me know if this soup kit route works. we have the exact same problem going on here... ill live install ubuntu as well, Ill try my hand here shortly, and give you feedback on my testing.
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No luck with adding persistence.
I get everything to to boot in Linux, followed all the instructions, but Soupkit still does not see my Kindle.
I've tried my factory cable and a regular cable. No luck
Some has changed though because now my Kindle logo light is solid bright whereas before it would blink and dim.
Good luck to you!
Well I've had a great dialogue with myself, but I fixed it by accident.
You guys do awesome work and I know its frustrating when people ask repeat questions. I thought I had truly given it my best shot before asking, but in the end it was an accident that seem to have fixed it, that and Skorpns factory cable LOL.
Right before I got ready to pitch it in the trash I figured I would try KFU one more time even though it wasn't seeing my Kindle. Device manager saw the ADB drivers in Android device though.
I plugged in the factory cable
Launched KFU
KFU said "offline"
Tried various options until I finally saw the install permanent root with superuser (option 2)
That did the trick
I then unplugged my factory cable from both the PC and KF and booted the KF into recovery
Plugged in a standard USB
I downloaded a ROM (Hashcodes and GAPPS) and side loaded them
That did it!
I'm not sure how or why since it said it was offline but it fixed it.
Can anyone shed light on why KFU said offline but it still took a root?
Also, regarding the factory cable, I read a ton of material on when to use it and why, but not really how. What I mean is when to plug in and when to revert to the standard cable. If I missed that, my apologies.
Copcheck said:
Well I've had a great dialogue with myself, but I fixed it by accident.
You guys do awesome work and I know its frustrating when people ask repeat questions. I thought I had truly given it my best shot before asking, but in the end it was an accident that seem to have fixed it, that and Skorpns factory cable LOL.
Right before I got ready to pitch it in the trash I figured I would try KFU one more time even though it wasn't seeing my Kindle. Device manager saw the ADB drivers in Android device though.
I plugged in the factory cable
Launched KFU
KFU said "offline"
Tried various options until I finally saw the install permanent root with superuser (option 2)
That did the trick
I then unplugged my factory cable from both the PC and KF and booted the KF into recovery
Plugged in a standard USB
I downloaded a ROM (Hashcodes and GAPPS) and side loaded them
That did it!
I'm not sure how or why since it said it was offline but it fixed it.
Can anyone shed light on why KFU said offline but it still took a root?
Also, regarding the factory cable, I read a ton of material on when to use it and why, but not really how. What I mean is when to plug in and when to revert to the standard cable. If I missed that, my apologies.
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wow im def. gonna try this seeing how we have similar issues with my kindle fire being recognized with a reg usb and online in kfu but with a boot status of unknown and then not seeing it and status being offline when i plus in the factory cable. also with the regular cables it boots to the cm10 boot logo and then with the factory cable it stays at the kindlefire orange and white cable. only thing im confused on is where you say you
"I then unplugged my factory cable from both the PC and KF and booted the KF into recovery"
how did you reboot to recovery? or this was automatic after option 2? thanks and its awesome you were pretty much able to figure this out on your own. i feel i wont have the same luck
Remi85 said:
wow im def. gonna try this seeing how we have similar issues with my kindle fire being recognized with a reg usb and online in kfu but with a boot status of unknown and then not seeing it and status being offline when i plus in the factory cable. also with the regular cables it boots to the cm10 boot logo and then with the factory cable it stays at the kindlefire orange and white cable. only thing im confused on is where you say you
"I then unplugged my factory cable from both the PC and KF and booted the KF into recovery"
how did you reboot to recovery? or this was automatic after option 2? thanks and its awesome you were pretty much able to figure this out on your own. i feel i wont have the same luck
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When I unplugged the factory cable from the PC and the KF, I could have done 1 of 2 things. Powercycle the KF and hold the power button down to get into TWRP or use a regular USB to side load a ROM and then load it.
Good luck to you, I hope you get it figured out.
Remi85 said:
wow im def. gonna try this seeing how we have similar issues with my kindle fire being recognized with a reg usb and online in kfu but with a boot status of unknown and then not seeing it and status being offline when i plus in the factory cable. also with the regular cables it boots to the cm10 boot logo and then with the factory cable it stays at the kindlefire orange and white cable. only thing im confused on is where you say you
"I then unplugged my factory cable from both the PC and KF and booted the KF into recovery"
how did you reboot to recovery? or this was automatic after option 2? thanks and its awesome you were pretty much able to figure this out on your own. i feel i wont have the same luck
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If you're getting the Kindle Fire orange and white, you haven't installed the new bootloader. Rerun KFU with the Kindle in Fastboot (using Cable) and select install FireFireFire. This will give you the bootloader to reboot to recovery.
Edit: You might as well reinstall TWRP while you're at it, just to be safe.
I have read to a nausea thread after thread about fixing my bricked Kindle, unfortunately I cannot post in the development section since I am a big NOOB. I'm sure most have heard this a million times, and have read about it a million times but have I still have not a clue how to go about it.
If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.
So story is downloaded KFU, installed drivers via KFU, plugged in Kindle, started option 2(ROOT w/ SU), it chugged away snagged at install FFFing, so I thought okay let me unplug and re do it, but now it is stuck at KF logo white/orange which many of you say is in fastboot mode. I cannot get the computer to recognize when connected, usually you hear a audible tone when connecting via usb, but nothing. Have tried reinstalling drivers again but they show they have already been installed. People say unistall but I cannot find the device to uninstall the drivers!! I have tried the unbrick util, but KF does not show nor on KFU. Thus I think Soupkit would be the same if it cannot see that KF is connected.
Another q, is even if I get it unbricked and use KFU will it still hang at FFF again...is it just dependent on computer or something, I don't understand why it works for some and not for others(causing them to use linux instead of windows?)
Please help me
You can still reboot to normal mode. Load KFU, and press 1, and then enter, and then 1 and then enter. This should reboot the kindle EVEN if it says its offline in KFU.
If that doesnt work, turn off the kindle, and as soon as you turn it back on, press 1 enter 1 enter in KFU.
Both these methods worked for me... but my KFU still hangs every time it enters fastbootmode!
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I have read to a nausea thread after thread about fixing my bricked Kindle, unfortunately I cannot post in the development section since I am a big NOOB. I'm sure most have heard this a million times, and have read about it a million times but have I still have not a clue how to go about it.
If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.
So story is downloaded KFU, installed drivers via KFU, plugged in Kindle, started option 2(ROOT w/ SU), it chugged away snagged at install FFFing, so I thought okay let me unplug and re do it, but now it is stuck at KF logo white/orange which many of you say is in fastboot mode. I cannot get the computer to recognize when connected, usually you hear a audible tone when connecting via usb, but nothing. Have tried reinstalling drivers again but they show they have already been installed. People say unistall but I cannot find the device to uninstall the drivers!! I have tried the unbrick util, but KF does not show nor on KFU. Thus I think Soupkit would be the same if it cannot see that KF is connected.
Another q, is even if I get it unbricked and use KFU will it still hang at FFF again...is it just dependent on computer or something, I don't understand why it works for some and not for others(causing them to use linux instead of windows?)
Please help me
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first of all lets get this straight. KFU did not (what you call bricking) brick it. you did by taking on the challenge.
second does device manager show up with anything when you plug it in?
goldflame09 said:
first of all lets get this straight. KFU did not (what you call bricking) brick it. you did by taking on the challenge.
second does device manager show up with anything when you plug it in?
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Thanks for the replies guys, I tried the first solution of using KFU and option 1, however it just hangs and just says waiting for device/device not found. Goldflame you are correct, I did it myself, no one forced me LOL. The device does not show up when I plug it in. If I power down(hold power down for 15secs, and then plug it in the KF logo comes back up but remains nonresponsive.) Seems the computer doesn't know its connected so the two cannot communicate. I've installed drivers so don't know what the problem is, tried different usb ports as well. I am also using a non factory micro cable, IDK if that matters or not read other people ordering factory ones to help them.
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Thanks for the replies guys, I tried the first solution of using KFU and option 1, however it just hangs and just says waiting for device/device not found. Goldflame you are correct, I did it myself, no one forced me LOL. The device does not show up when I plug it in. If I power down(hold power down for 15secs, and then plug it in the KF logo comes back up but remains nonresponsive.) Seems the computer doesn't know its connected so the two cannot communicate. I've installed drivers so don't know what the problem is, tried different usb ports as well. I am also using a non factory micro cable, IDK if that matters or not read other people ordering factory ones to help them.
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ok well this is different from my case where it showed up as an unknown device in device manager. reboot your computer without the kindl plugged in and let me know if anything different happens when you plug in your kindle
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ok well this is different from my case where it showed up as an unknown device in device manager. reboot your computer without the kindl plugged in and let me know if anything different happens when you plug in your kindle
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Yes rebooted still reacts the same way. any other ideas? tia.
jinhypen said:
Yes rebooted still reacts the same way. any other ideas? tia.
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I have no guarantee that it will work but try to delete your .android folder.
Its located in c:/users/your user name/.android
Then plug in your kindle, open kfu and choose option 2 even if it says device offline
Sent from my Kindle Fire running CM10.1/SGT7
goldflame09 said:
I have no guarantee that it will work but try to delete your .android folder.
Its located in c:/users/your user name/.android
Then plug in your kindle, open kfu and choose option 2 even if it says device offline
Sent from my Kindle Fire running CM10.1/SGT7
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TY you for being so responsive goldflame, but I have already done that as well...I researched quite bit before posting this..as I didn't wanna be "that" person. Still nothing works does anyone have anymore solutions for me?
So I was trying to change my son's Fire 2 over to the new Kit Kat OS, and as I was downloading the necessary files to my computer, I thought I would wipe everything, since he had managed to pretty much fill it with junk, (he's 8). I have TWRP, (2.3.3.0) installed, and used that to wipe everything, including the internal storage and the format data wipe. I have done this with my Fire 1 with no issues, but this time I ran into a problem. TWRP works fine, but now windows won't recognize the tablet. When I go to mount the usb storage to copy the os files over, windows 7 cant load the device drives, and in my device manager it shows the Amazon Kindle fire 2 with the yellow exclamation mark next to it, saying that the drivers for this device are not installed. I have the SDK installed, and I have gone through and re installed the device drivers several times, and also uninstalled the kindle from the device list in manager. Nothing is working. I have attempted fastboot, but when I do try, it gets stuck at the "press the button menu" for TWRP, and after running the fastboot -i 0x1949 getvar product command, it tells me it sees an Otter2-Prod-04.
Does anybody have any ideas or suggestions on how I can get into the usb storage so I can load the OS info? Thanks for any help.
Dead?
Well, I rebooted from TWRP and it just went black. No light when the cable is plugged in, (factory cable), no twenty second reset working, nothing. IS it safe to assume I now have a pretty paperweight, and I should be looking into getting my son another tablet?
xanthian23 said:
Well, I rebooted from TWRP and it just went black. No light when the cable is plugged in, (factory cable), no twenty second reset working, nothing. IS it safe to assume I now have a pretty paperweight, and I should be looking into getting my son another tablet?
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Leave it on the charger overnight. Keep trying 20 second reboot. If you can get back into recovery you can adb sideload a rom into the device.
You've never been able to USB Mount this device from recovery.
Good luck. No reason it should be bricked....
How did you try to get into fast boot? You need a fastboot cable. This device is NOTHING LIKE the kf1.
Edit: also need to be sure exactly which kf2 you have.
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mindmajick said:
Leave it on the charger overnight. Keep trying 20 second reboot. If you can get back into recovery you can adb sideload a rom into the device.
You've never been able to USB Mount this device from recovery.
Good luck. No reason it should be bricked....
How did you try to get into fast boot? You need a fastboot cable. This device is NOTHING LIKE the kf1.
Edit: also need to be sure exactly which kf2 you have.
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I have the standard cheap Kf2, no HD, just the upgrade from the first from last year, (2012), they were selling around Christmas last year. I have tried getting it to start back up, but with no success. I don't even understand why it shut down like that. I hadn't done anything to it other than reboot, which I had done successfully several times before. As for the fastboot, I may be incorrect. I ran the adb command: fastboot -i 0x1949 getvar product in CMD, and then plugged the kindle in and booted up. It showed it was an otter4 or something like that, which I thought meant it was in fastboot. At that time I was using my S4 usb cable. I'm sure I can sort out ho to sideload a rom via adb if I can ever get it started back up again. I had thought about opening it up and unplugging the battery and then re-plugging it back it to try to reset it, but I doubt it will help. Would getting a fastboot cable possibly make it start back up? If anyone has any suggestions on how I can get this thing started up again I would greatly appreciate it. I fell like crap for bricking my kids kindle, he's 8, so it's really important to him. It'll take me several months to save up to buy another one, so if I can get it running again, that would be awesome.
Here's a bit of an oddity, and maybe this spells some hope for me yet. So I plug the KF2 into the computer with the factory cable, hold down the power button for twenty seconds, let go, and then hit the power button again, for about a second, and windows makes the usb device plugged in sound, followed by a usb rejected or not recognized sound. It repeats this over and over for about thirty seconds or so and then stops. So there is something going on with the kindle, and its not flat out dead, or at least it seems. Is this a good sign? Does this help anyone to figure out what I might need to do?
So just to be sure that I was using a fastboot cable, even though I believe that my samsung s4 cable is fastboot capable, and I'm pretty sure I am using the factory cable, (it's not marked so I can't be 100% sure), I built my own fastboot cable, via instructions on how to do so on xda. (found HERE) It's doing the same thing with windows making the usb device inserted / recognized sound, followed by the usb device error sound. I'm guessing that this is a bad thing, am I correct?
One more bit of information to add to the list. I attempted to do the fastboot mode again,and decided to watch my device manager. Whenever windows chimes off that it detects a usb device, something called OMAP 4430 pops up for about a second before disappearing when the error sound comes on. I'm going to try and get a driver for that, just to see what happens. Maybe it'll help. I doubt it, but you never know until you try...
This just keeps getting weirder and weirder. So I installed the omap driver for windows and android, and now windows recognizes the device, but only for about a second. It just keeps cycling through the usb connected sound, recognizing the omap device, and then the usb disconnected sound, as though the device were being plugged in and then unplugged about every second for roughly thirty seconds. I'm starting to think there is something seriously wrong, which bites. If anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears.
That's a hard brick' we can't use the usboot/aboot utility to fix the device like you can on other omap devices because we need a certain signed file to fix the boot loader. Only amazon has that file and they aren't giving it out. There is a way to recover your device from a hard brick but you need to be good with a soldering iron and have a USB sdcard reader, the kind that kinda is like a flashdrive rather than the multi type readers and some really small wire. Kurohyou wrote a tutorial on how to fix it in the kf2 dev section, not sure if he ever added the part in on how to reflash the boot loader from Linux, but if you take this route and try to fix it I wouldn't mind helping.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD running CM10.1 Tablet UI using xda-developers app
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That's a hard brick' we can't use the usboot/aboot utility to fix the device like you can on other omap devices because we need a certain signed file to fix the boot loader. Only amazon has that file and they aren't giving it out. There is a way to recover your device from a hard brick but you need to be good with a soldering iron and have a USB sdcard reader, the kind that kinda is like a flashdrive rather than the multi type readers and some really small wire. Kurohyou wrote a tutorial on how to fix it in the kf2 dev section, not sure if he ever added the part in on how to reflash the boot loader from Linux, but if you take this route and try to fix it I wouldn't mind helping.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD running CM10.1 Tablet UI using xda-developers app
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OK, I have both a tf - micro sd card usb card reader, and a full sd card usb card reader. I'll have to go digging for them in the morning, but I think I can find them. I'm also really good with a soldering iron, (used to be a vcr / tv repair technician), It took me roughly two minutes to do the homemade factory cable. So I am game, especially since at this point I really have nothing to loose by trying. Would you mind posting a link to where the tutorial is? I'm going to go looking for it, but just in case I can't find it, a link would help. And thank you so much for this suggestion!
OK, I found the tutorial on how to wire everything up and what's needed. I'll have to go get some small wire and a better tip for my iron, but aside form that, the wiring and soldering seems simple enough. My problem is going to be dealing with linux. I know Windows backwards and forwards, but I have a pretty limited knowledge of linux, aside from a few things we did in school to cover general PC repair. I can get it up an running, which I will do tomorrow, but I may need some help sorting out what to do with it once I have the board lined up and ready to roll, which will have to wait till next week when I get back from a work trip. Do you know if kurohyou offers repairs? If it's not too expensive, I would be willing to pay for the fix.
He might repair it, he just made a solderless repair tool to repair them. But like I said I'm more than willing to help with the Linux side, I'm a PC tech myself and use Linux primarily, you can basically burn an ubuntu live CD or put it on a USB stick and boot into the entire os without having to install it, from there's its as simple as plugging the device into the PC, and seeing what device path it assigned to the kindle's emmc, and running a dd command to flash the boot loader back onto the device.
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stunts513 said:
... you can basically burn an ubuntu live CD or put it on a USB stick and boot into the entire os without having to install it, from there's its as simple as plugging the device into the PC, and seeing what device path it assigned to the kindle's emmc, and running a dd command to flash the boot loader back onto the device.
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Yeah, I've ran a live usb version of unbuntu a few times, and in the past I have had the full version on my system, but I rarely ever used it, so I got rid of it. I have an extra 600 gig's of space just sitting around on my laptop, so I will install a full version, and get off my lazy rear and start learning linux. This should be a good first lesson. I can't do any of this until next week though, so I will be pm'ing you once I've gotten everythig hooked up and ready to go. Thanks again for the help.
I had a question about the repair though. I went through the discussion, and I may have just missed it, but did he ever figure out how to get the OS up and running? From what I could tell, he was still working on it, and hadn't managed to get a working rom loaded. I probably just either missed it, or didn't understand one of the post's.