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[Q] which is better?

Hello,
I have some doubts about the opendesire roms and defrost roms's and the cynogen mod roms. What are your opinion on these Roms? I am currently using defrost 4.7. Also what are the differences between these roms?
Also there is a theme called blufrost and it has also another name call gefrost or something like that. Whenever I try to install it, when I boot up, it goes into a constant boot loop. What am I to do? I really, really, love that theme. I really want to install it. Any opinions?
If there are almost exact themes that work I would not mind them. But hopefully there is a way to allow the original to work.
Thirdly, I want to overclock my desire and the kernal defrost gives is at 1.275 volts. What is the normal voltages the processor recieves? What is the maximum it can take? What is the minimum too?
Thank you all in advance!

Cyanogenmod is the base. There all the bugs get solved, features integrated.
To run Cyanogenmod on the Desire a specific Kernel is required which gets constanly updated, too.
The source code of both Cyanogenmod and the kernel are public available.
CyanogenMod releases a Desire ROM every now and then, with a lot of additional apps and tools integrated.
Both OpenDesire and DeFrost use the CyanogenMod source and mod it a bit, compile it and release it. Either modifiying the kernel, adding HAVS (DeFrost), or just removing not needed apps, adding other apps, adding custom settings, etc.
So all three are very similar and most often suffer from the same issues, because all of them use the same kernel, so all of them had the Optical Joystick wake issue, had a general sleep issue, etc. which should be solved now, however.
I don't recommend using the real CyanogenMod ROM. Simply because not so many Desire users use it, so don't expect too much help, themes, mods, etc. It's also bloated in my opinion with a lot of already installed apps.
OpenDesire makes it smaller, remove unwanted apps. It also offers an over the air (OTA) update app so it makes it easier to update the roms. It allows overclocking and undervolting. Has a lot of themes and users.
DeFroST is similar. Don't know if it's still true, but DeFrost seems to be slimmer, even more not needed apps removed. Also has an OTA app and allows you to change the Kernel without troubles. I used OpenDesire a few months ago, so I don't know if it got an improved OTA now, however, DeFrost had the much better and more flexible one. DeFrost also offers a HAVS kernel, which gives more battery life, however, it also isn't stable on some phones.
So in the end it's a personal decision. I also switched to DeFrost because the OpenDesire community got flooded with noobs after the Playstation mod got released for OpenDesire, noobs, who have no idea how to count till 10. The thread became flooded and useless. I also prefer the way Richard (DeFrost) does his work.
1.3V is the default max. voltage. You shouldn't go higher, because you can't improve the cooling nor anything else hardware related.

Time to root,

Real quick,
1. Do I loose all the apps I installed? (I'll just reinstall them I assume?)
2. Can I get rid of the preinstalled apps that keep running?
3. Is it fairly easy to overclock when screen clicks on, and underclock when its clicked off?
4. What is the best kernel for stability and battery life?
5. Whats the most stable ROM for stability and battery life?
Both me and my girlfriend use the G2 and we love them. I just want to milk the hardware a bit more
Also added another line with the MT4G going to do that one next :0
Wrap Up. I'm trying to get the snappiest, most stable, running G2, with the longest battery life. Please help, I've been trolling and reading these for a while, just wanted to repost the information in case anything has changed/updated. Cheers from Minneapolis!

xandermpls said:
Real quick,
1. Do I loose all the apps I installed? (I'll just reinstall them I assume?)
2. Can I get rid of the preinstalled apps that keep running?
3. Is it fairly easy to overclock when screen clicks on, and underclock when its clicked off?
4. What is the best kernel for stability and battery life?
5. Whats the most stable ROM for stability and battery life?
Both me and my girlfriend use the G2 and we love them. I just want to milk the hardware a bit more
Also added another line with the MT4G going to do that one next :0
Wrap Up. I'm trying to get the snappiest, most stable, running G2, with the longest battery life. Please help, I've been trolling and reading these for a while, just wanted to repost the information in case anything has changed/updated. Cheers from Minneapolis!
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Just rooting won't make you lose anything; the only time you'll have to reinstall apps is when you flash a new ROM as you need to do a full wipe however, Market will start to reinstall them on its own.
When you root, you can do whatever you want, including removing stock apps. Titanium Backup has a feature to remove apps (be sure to make a backup though, incase something breaks)
Overclocking requires an overclocked kernel and SetCPU has profiles to allow screen on/off settings.
Pershoots kernel is generally viewed as the best however, it doesn't work with the stock ROM or Sense ROMs; for the stock ROM try Baconbits (v3 is the latest, I believe).
Most ROMs are generally equally stable, which to choose depends on what you like. Most use CyanogenMOD though, there are many to choose from.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

Regardless of the rom/kernel, you'll get pretty sweet battery life

dietotherhythm said:
Regardless of the rom/kernel, you'll get pretty sweet battery life
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Not neccessarily; just rooting doesn't give one better battery life, Sense ROMs generally have worse battery lives, Pershoot under-volts giving better battery life, etc.
The only way just rooting your device gives you better battery life is that it allows you to remove the carrier installed bloatware that runs at startup.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

Anybody Returned to Stock after trying different mods and Kernels? Tell us about it.

Hi,
I have played with my Gnex for the Past 4 months (Released Dec 8th in Canada). I have installed many mods, kernels, ROMS (Currently on AOKP MS3 and Francko Kernel MS1). I love the utilities provided by these custom apps, but I keep having stability problems from time to time and its getting a little bit disapoint.
* My Juice Def apps gets killed and settings are reset.
* I only see 50% of the pic when people call me.
* Volume is at max, but cant hear my music because of ambiant noise (to tell yuo hoe low the volume becomes)
* I Dont know how to use he Undervolting and Overvolting of the CPUS, and I dont realy care (Too technical for me)
* Whatever ROM is used, it still sucks my battery. Juice Defender is very good at doubling my battery life.
These are some reasons that I might bo back to STOCK KERNEL and ICS.
For those of you who returned to STOCK, Did you miss all the tweaks ROMS and Kernel gives you? Do you notice a different in speed?
Thanks.

Sounds like you're overall not happy with your experience.
If all of these cool tweaks are making it so you can't regularly use the phone like you like it, just return to stock. Its not worth sacrificing your enjoyment of the phone just to get some cool tweaks.

Problem is.. I dont really remember how its to run a stock phone. :S

same here..i also would like to go back to stock..

jeck025 said:
same here..i also would like to go back to stock..
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Then do it! No one's stopping you. There is no shame in returning to stock lol. Its okay.

I want back to stock for a day and changed my mind.... main reason that I don't like the stock is lack of toggles and overall smoothness. Oooo and you have no idea how often I use search icon on navbar . Also this is my main way of communicating with people. Voice actions are brill testing and calling is very easy with this. Someone will say that I can do that from search bar .... yes but 9 out of 10 times I'll miss tapping the icon ....
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Did I return to stock? Well, after successfully compiling my first ROM (AOSP 4.0.3) I found out that my backups were deleted so I had to reflash some stock images from Google. I'm having enough fun playing with the phone on my own...I can be patient to see what improvements other ROMs come up with.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

I am running AOKP MS3 and have been flashing the latest Franco kernel. I had the same issues as you and a full wipe and reflash solved all of those issues. Hope this helps you!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA

Malarie said:
Hi,
I have played with my Gnex for the Past 4 months (Released Dec 8th in Canada). I have installed many mods, kernels, ROMS (Currently on AOKP MS3 and Francko Kernel MS1). I love the utilities provided by these custom apps, but I keep having stability problems from time to time and its getting a little bit disapoint.
* My Juice Def apps gets killed and settings are reset.
* I only see 50% of the pic when people call me.
* Volume is at max, but cant hear my music because of ambiant noise (to tell yuo hoe low the volume becomes)
* I Dont know how to use he Undervolting and Overvolting of the CPUS, and I dont realy care (Too technical for me)
* Whatever ROM is used, it still sucks my battery. Juice Defender is very good at doubling my battery life.
These are some reasons that I might bo back to STOCK KERNEL and ICS.
For those of you who returned to STOCK, Did you miss all the tweaks ROMS and Kernel gives you? Do you notice a different in speed?
Thanks.
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1. I use juice defender too and I NEVER saw it getting killed. The settings do reset everytime you flash something even if you don't wipe cache but that's the developer's problem no the roms/kernels. The solution is simple : just backup your settings from JD's status tab and restore it after you flash zips in recovery.
2. Well known issue with m3. there was a fix zip floating around but you should just update. m3 is not anymore stable than the newer aokp builds. b26/27 are very stable but just wait a few days and m4 will be out for sure.
3. I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying you can't hear the music at 100% volume? Does it go away with stock kernel? then it might be franco's volume hack. Try leankernel 2.4 if you want something lean, fast, with GREAT battery life and without all the extra bells and whistles. you need to go to rootzwiki.com to dl leankernel.
4. You don't need to undervolt with gnexus and even if you do, it's completely pointless. It causes instability and the battery savings are negligible.
5. Wipe data and cache and flash leankernel 2.4 and aokp b26 (or m4 when it comes out). You'll lose all your settings but I think this combination will keep you happy for along time.
6. I used JD Ultimate for a long time and after a lot of testing on leankernel 2.4, I find it completely redundant.

I'm back to stock (stock launcher too).
It's because I've never had any real problem with stock in the first place. No battery drain, no dropped calls, no sluggish interface and everything works. Then the most important thing is I LOVE the simplicity feel that stock offers so I've decided to go back to stock.
Nothing against custom ROMs.

This is why after you root its always good to Nandroid your stock rom.
The only thing i like about stock is that i know its not going to fail me and i know i dont have to always mess around with tweaks and other things.. it just does what it was meant to do..
Custom roms seems to always have problems with different kernels or maybe the ROM is just in beta.. or a tweak is causing something else to break..
But we also have some good custom roms base off of stock with nothing too much added.. like Android Revolatuion.. No diss towards other roms tho.. just people dont want to always have to change or fix something

Malarie said:
Hi,
I have played with my Gnex for the Past 4 months (Released Dec 8th in Canada). I have installed many mods, kernels, ROMS (Currently on AOKP MS3 and Francko Kernel MS1). I love the utilities provided by these custom apps, but I keep having stability problems from time to time and its getting a little bit disapoint.
* My Juice Def apps gets killed and settings are reset.
* I only see 50% of the pic when people call me.
* Volume is at max, but cant hear my music because of ambiant noise (to tell yuo hoe low the volume becomes)
* I Dont know how to use he Undervolting and Overvolting of the CPUS, and I dont realy care (Too technical for me)
* Whatever ROM is used, it still sucks my battery. Juice Defender is very good at doubling my battery life.
These are some reasons that I might bo back to STOCK KERNEL and ICS.
For those of you who returned to STOCK, Did you miss all the tweaks ROMS and Kernel gives you? Do you notice a different in speed?
Thanks.
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It all comes down to personal choices really.
To me i tried AOKP rom with Franco kernel and it really rocked. But then i went back to stock since 4.0.2 with XXKK6 gives me good battery life and its rock stable.. no issues. i do have to give up a lot of customizations but i can live with it. no problem.
The reason i don't want to install custom roms yet is that i would go crazy with flashing roms and it would be addicting so right now i just want to stay away..i would get bored after trying all new roms.. so right now STOCK.. just want to savour the beautiful Galaxy Nexus as is.

I went back to stock on Sunday. I was checking to see if wallet would work on stock but it didn't. When it booted up stock the first time I was like:
http://troll.me/images/snape-dafuq/dafuq-is-this-****.jpg
When I got my phone it was stock for about 5 minutes. AOKP FTW!

Confused. You can run ROMs with the stock kernel. IMHO, stock kernel> any custom kernel. My experience, custom kernels create different problems.
Kernel enthusiasts tend to be a little... too enthusiastic. They tend to ignore the problems and measurebate about supposed battery life or performance.
My best combination is AOKP ROM for the features and stock kernel with a couple performance tweaks in the developer settings.
Now I just go about using my phone to enhance my life rather than the other way round.
YMMV, and it is your life, of course.
Sent from the Galaxy Nexus far, far away.

liverstealerJobs said:
Confused. You can run ROMs with the stock kernel. IMHO, stock kernel> any custom kernel. My experience, custom kernels create different problems.
Kernel enthusiasts tend to be a little... too enthusiastic. They tend to ignore the problems and measurebate about supposed battery life or performance.
My best combination is AOKP ROM for the features and stock kernel with a couple performance tweaks in the developer settings.
Now I just go about using my phone to enhance my life rather than the other way round.
YMMV, and it is your life, of course.
Sent from the Galaxy Nexus far, far away.
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I agree 100%.

I never had any issue with AOKP. But I use stock kernel. Custom kernels are for those who can live with a phone not working 100 % and alarm clock fail to ring in the morning. If you want the best of the best for the Gnex, flash AOKP, and nothing else. And don't mess with performance settings.
And btw. The only ROM that ever randomly rebooted on me, was stock ROM. How is that for a laugh?

Stop using Juice Defender. It sucks or it has some serious bugs on Nexus I don't know. Stock everything I had juice defender on and strange things were happening. Touching screen would do nothing, apps would close on their own. When I took it off everything was fine again. Juice defender was recommended to me by someone else. So oh well, seems he was luckier than me running it. Fast forward a week, I got interested in ROM's, now running AOKP with Fugumod kernel and thought hmm maybe give juice defender another shot. Within 1 day I removed it. AGAIN, apps crashing, touches not being recognized, slowness switching screens. I say Juice defender stinks or has lots of bugs. My battery life is just fine with AOKP and Fugumod. Right now my Nexus is perfection. I can quickly get in and out of apps and there is no slowness or anything. I can't see myself ever going back to stock.

I'm running stock 4.0.4 with no issues.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA

I'm debating going back to stock.
Came from 4.0.2 stock to AOKP 1-30 milestone + franco.
The new ROM is nice and all, but like every 15-30m I get randomly disconnected from the network and takes 15s to reconnect. It's semi-tolerable but I hate things like this.

why was music app missing from AOKP rom Milestone 3? who do you get it back?

[Q] De-Sense a Sense based ROM?

So I know this is probably a really stupid question, but I'll ask anyway.
For about 18 months I ran Decks ROM and really liked how lean the whole thing was. I got stellar battery life, and had next to no bloat and it was nice and fast. I recently put a sense ROM on my phone (Infamous 2.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1836346 ). I always knew the AOSP ROMs had pretty lack luster camera support, but I swear the pictures and video are night and day different. So I've been using this Sense based ROM since I found myself taking pictures more now that the camera doesn't take shaky, grainy and overly warm pictures. However, there's a few things that I really don't like about Sense based ROMs and was wondering if there are any work arounds for them.
The bloat... oh the bloat! I use zero of the built in HTC apps/widgets, but as far as I can tell, they can't be removed. I looked around and removed the apks from the system/app directory but after reboot they're still there and the apks just reappear. Maybe it's not that simple of a process, I found something similar in a script, but it's only for Sense 4+ and the ROM I'm using is 3.5. If I could be lead in the right direction of removing some of this junk that would be great! Mostly looking to ditch services that are eating into RAM that I'll never use. Namily Weather (looks like a big battery drain), anything facebook/twitter/social network related and Voicemail (I use google voice).
Question 2. I really miss the functionality of the long press back killing the foreground app. I have a feeling it's kernel related, which means there probably isn't a way to just add it some how to a kernel that doesn't support it. Along the same lines, I have no CPU control what so ever. A little OC never hurt, and governor options would be nice. I never got into messing with kernels too much back when I was flashing ROMs daily until I settled on Decks and stuck with it for ~18 months. I'm way out of the loop of things now, and development has slowed on this phone quite a bit since I messed around with it, so I'm kinda lost with this one. Are their Sense based kernels that allow any of these features?
I ended up writing more than I wanted to, but I like to be thorough when asking questions. If I could get some information on these little quirks it'd go a long way to making me embrace this Sense based ROM a lot more.
Thanks guys!

faustt said:
So I know this is probably a really stupid question, but I'll ask anyway.
For about 18 months I ran Decks ROM and really liked how lean the whole thing was. I got stellar battery life, and had next to no bloat and it was nice and fast. I recently put a sense ROM on my phone (Infamous 2.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1836346 ). I always knew the AOSP ROMs had pretty lack luster camera support, but I swear the pictures and video are night and day different. So I've been using this Sense based ROM since I found myself taking pictures more now that the camera doesn't take shaky, grainy and overly warm pictures. However, there's a few things that I really don't like about Sense based ROMs and was wondering if there are any work arounds for them.
The bloat... oh the bloat! I use zero of the built in HTC apps/widgets, but as far as I can tell, they can't be removed. I looked around and removed the apks from the system/app directory but after reboot they're still there and the apks just reappear. Maybe it's not that simple of a process, I found something similar in a script, but it's only for Sense 4+ and the ROM I'm using is 3.5. If I could be lead in the right direction of removing some of this junk that would be great! Mostly looking to ditch services that are eating into RAM that I'll never use. Namily Weather (looks like a big battery drain), anything facebook/twitter/social network related and Voicemail (I use google voice).
Question 2. I really miss the functionality of the long press back killing the foreground app. I have a feeling it's kernel related, which means there probably isn't a way to just add it some how to a kernel that doesn't support it. Along the same lines, I have no CPU control what so ever. A little OC never hurt, and governor options would be nice. I never got into messing with kernels too much back when I was flashing ROMs daily until I settled on Decks and stuck with it for ~18 months. I'm way out of the loop of things now, and development has slowed on this phone quite a bit since I messed around with it, so I'm kinda lost with this one. Are their Sense based kernels that allow any of these features?
I ended up writing more than I wanted to, but I like to be thorough when asking questions. If I could get some information on these little quirks it'd go a long way to making me embrace this Sense based ROM a lot more.
Thanks guys!
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Ok as far as the system apps(bloat)you can remove it,use an explorer app,delete the apps you dont want,reboot into recovery and wipe cache and delvik and reboot,they should now be gone,the reason they werent before,is because of the dalvik and cache left behind,theres also a system app remover on playstore,or you can use 7-zip before insalling the rom and remove the apps from the zip file.
As far as the kernel goes,theres 2 sense kernels in the development section,not sure they have what your looking for.

Well I was halfway there. Didn't know I had to clear the cache afterwards. Makes sense though.
Will take a look at the dev section and see if I can glean some info on those alternative sense kernels. Just gotta backup before I wreck things too much.
Thanks for the info!

Looking for info. Solid Rom suggestions only.

Got me a Z5p E6853 over a year ago.
Stock rom is ok, a bit laggy but runs well enough. over time it gets stale and I looked around for Custom roms.
Tried a few, mainly the AOSP roms on this Forum and the Z5 fourm. found some bug or another that didn't sit well with me. custom stock roms causes a display failure on my device for some reason at random times, sometimes more than once a day, others will run for weeks without a problem. happens at the oddest times too so no way to pin down the cause. (plus all the devs from those roms have moved on so little point in requesting help for them)
So my main question is. other than going back to full stock. (with the possibility of xposed in the future) - What are the current best roms for function and Camera.
Stock roms take advantange of the DRM keys saved on your device. AOSP roms don't from what I can understand. is there a Lineage or AOSP type rom that has a better camera than stock?
what have the users here experienced to be their best combination of rom, with long term stability / Camera quality being top priority.
I don't normally ask Questions here, I usually lurk and help people with problems with flashing and such. but my current experiece with the Z5p has been a bit poor. and I would like to use this phone to its full potential. I just don't see that yet with whats currently available. I may have missed an old rom, or some patch fix that someone mentioned somewhere, but i've been reading the threads for the past few months looking for something that stands out.
I feel like I've bought into a dud of a phone. and my only real option is to just go back to normal stock and pass the phone onto a relative and buy a better phone.

Hey there. I used to have an HTC One M9 (I now have the Z5 Premium (E6853))and the best decision I've ever made with that phone is to keep the stock rom, but root it (preferably with magisk). For me this had the best stability with all the perks of rooting it as you could still flash kernels, and use the millions of root apps that boost your phone and clean out bloatware. Maybe just do some exploring into apps that'll completely change the behaviour of your phone, rather than the OS. What I have found in my rom flashing addict days is that the ROMs themselves really only change a couple of things and device performance is never one of them. If you're looking for massive customisation options a custom rom can help, but you should also check out Substratum. I hope it all goes well!
P.S. - I find Lineage OS is probably the most stable custom rom out there but who knows every custom rom can be a real hit and/or miss.

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