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Hi! I got my shiny new Desire HD yesterday (upgraded from an iphone) and by god do I love it, just perfect for me.
Although with it comes a lot of.. junk that I simply do not need (scrolling through a good 30 apps just to get to my most used), plus I heard that 2.3 (Specifically Cyanogenmod 7) brings with it better battery, better performance and with it being rooted, more features.
I'm looking to root it as soon as possible before I start putting a lot of things on it, rather than do a lot with it now and then have to do it again a couple months down the road.
My main question is, I love htcsense.com and I love the extra features it gives me, especially being able to track the phone, gives me much needed peace of mind, if I root to a 2.3 ROM (probably cm7) will htcsense.com no longer work?
Thankyou for any/all replies, oh and a little quickie at the end, I'm planning to go with cm7 because it seems the most basic and customizable for my needs, and battery life is a huge plus for me as I'm planning to use this beauty in and around college, is cm7 a good idea?
Thank you and have a great day.
If that HTC feature relies on having the app on the phone then it wont work as CM7 is not a Sense ROM and contains no sense applications.
Neither do I believe simply installing the apk, if possible, would work.
Be nice to be wrong though.
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Ahh, so in short, no?
Fair enough, is there a way to install the part needed for it to work after rooting it with cm7?
Probably not. Again, hope I'm wrong because it is a great utility that would otherwise cost you (Wavesecure app for example and I believe one of the anti-virus apps provides same functionality).
If anyone has the apk I'd happily try it but IIRC the apps rely on the Sense framework.
Bear with me, just checking this out.
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Confirmed. Without the apk installed the phone can't communicate with the HTC servers.
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Hi there,
i've recently rooted my Desire HD (and upgraded to 2.3.3) & I can tell you that HTCsense still works. No idea about if it still works on non-sense roms such as CM7 or not.
I've been using RCMix and Android Revolution roms in the past week & both of them are a lot better than the stock Froyo that my phone came with though.
Did a search and found an apk but it is confirmed that it will not run on AOSP ROMs such as Cyanogenmod.
The only option you have would be to run a Sense based ROM then install something like ADW.Launcher which has categorised app drawer (meaning you can choose what apps appear).
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Thankyou for the replies you've really helped.
Does sense rom mean, a rom that has HTC sense enabled? I assume it does.
Also, if I want to get 2.3+ android with sense so I can use the htcsense.com service, which rom would be best to root too? I've only ever heard of cm7, that's about it.
Thanks again!
Coredroid is a sense ROM. Pretty good too. If your main concern is tracking your phone, why don't you try Lookout from the marketplace. its free and is also a very good virus checker too!
h3dfuk said:
Coredroid is a sense ROM. Pretty good too. If your main concern is tracking your phone, why don't you try Lookout from the marketplace. its free and is also a very good virus checker too!
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Does it improve the battery life at all?
Oh also, is it easy to change back to the original ROM that came with the phone in-case of any warranty issues? Coredroid just doesn't look as.. polished as cyanogen, I could be completely wrong though.
If so, I'll root it today! Love the community by the way, I can't say anything bad about the iPhone community really, although they seem to care a lot less.
Does rooting to an Android 2.3 ROM bring everything that normal Android 2.3 brings and then depending on the ROM, special things? So it doesn't matter what ROM I get that's 2.3 they'll all have 2.3 Android features?
Do a backup in Tom manager in case you want to go back to your previous rom. Coredroid is a very fast rom IMO, but its dependent on how you use it much like any other rom really.
batery life is better than stock but again you will need to be mindful of gps and wifi etc. An awesome gingerbread kernel to improve battery life does not yet exist.
Fantastic, I'll give CoreDroid a try then, thankyou for your help, you've been very useful and informative.
One last thing before I begin the process, what is Tom manager? I did a quick google search and a look into the market but found nothing, did you mean Rom manager?
my bad. I have auto correction on. I meant ROM manager.
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my bad. I have auto correction on. I meant ROM manager.
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Ahh, I got it and I'm trying to backup my current ROM but I need to install "clockwordmod recovery" and whenever I try I get a "An error occurred while attempting to run privilged commands!" which is a shame.
Oh, and is there an up-to-date guide on how to root? Pardon my ignorance.
You need root first.
There's several "how to's" in the development forum. More information than we could put here (or should).
Sorry, I'm being incredibly silly, I keep getting ROM's and rooting mixed up, I'm in the process of rooting it now then I'll install a ROM, I haven't decided which yet but I might.. shop around, sorta speak.
Thanks for the help guys, take care.
Because sense apps aren't running in background, Cyanogen should be less stressful on the battery. However stock roms are usually not developed to maximize battery life in the same way custom roms are (afterall, battery life is a bugbear for developers too!). With this in mind, Coredroid even with sense is still better on your battery life than stock sense. Its all dependent on how you use it though (turn off GPS and wifi when no longer required etc..). Intensive use will naturally drain your battery sooner than conservative use. If you find battery life a pain with any rom, you could try juice defender free to automatically regulate consumption of battery.
Best advice, try a number of mods every week or so, and settle on one you like once you've experienced them. You souls also download battery calibrator from market and use after every flash to help you with the battery.
After a little soulsearching I'm going to give RCMixHD a try, it seems very popular which is usually a good sign, it has sense 3.0 and 2.3.3 Android so it's practically perfect.
The only thing I'm puzzled by now is "radios" I've worked out that they determine call reception and 3G+HSPDA whatnots, but do I actually need a new one before/after flashing to a new ROM? There seems to be a lot of radios out there and I have no clue which to go with and what they do.
Oh, also, does overclocking your phone as you have done have a huge impact on the battery life? I assume it has atleast some impact.
Only certain roms currently support overclocking, with some having the ability only after a kernel flash. CM7.0.2 however comes with ability without need to install anything else. You will need SetCPU to overclock and select a governor to regulate how power is maintained. You need to set minimum frequency when phone is idle etc.. It's easier than it sounds but do read into the overclocking threads for dhd we have here if in any doubt.
Subject says it all. I'm using Virtuous 3.2.0 with a stock kernel, and it just sucks the life right out of the battery. Plus, when I unplug it from the charger, it instantly drops to 96%. Any suggestions? I'm not a n00b to this stuff, just recently stumbled onto this forum and registered 5 minutes ago. I've also used Cyanogen 7 with the same results.
I like the Sense layout, so is there any "stock" deodexed ROMs that have good battery life?
Ok I lied. I am a n00b when it comes to kernel's. Don't know anything about them, or what they do.
I tried one with Virtuous., and all it did was force reboot every minute or so, so I went back to the stock kernel.
Uber kingdom !
First of all, all phone/ROMs/kernels/everything drop a few percent immediately, and for amazing battery life, I used the 12/23 incredikernel. If you are looking at 2.3.3 you can only use the kernel that comes with the ROM. I got about 8 hours of moderate/heavy use out of it today.
I've found that SkyRaider and using Chad's incredikernel are the best match (make sure you use the one labeled for sense, it's at the very bottom of his 1st post)
As another user pointed out, when you first flash a ROM / Kernel your phone doesn't quite know how big your battery is, so it'll take a few days for it to calculate properly.
The gingerbread releases I've found are a bit harder on the battery, as developers continue to develop better kernels and ROM's I'm sure that will change.
Also a few general tips:
- Don't use Task Killers
- Make sure you don't have apps that auto update frequently, and if you do and want them to keep doing it, know that this puts further battery drain.
- Download "spare parts" and check under battery stats for programs that use a lot of Data, CPU, and GPS.
- Don't overclock (if you're using chad's incredikernel then don't worry about anything regarding your CPU, his kernel takes care of all of it)
- Read this article to better understand how your battery is working: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
Link to IncrediKernel Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848453
Link to correct Sense kernel download:
http://chad0989.dyndns.org/2.6.32.27-incredikernel-12232010_signed.zip
I know that was a bit long but hope it was helpful.
POQbum said:
I've found that SkyRaider and using Chad's incredikernel are the best match (make sure you use the one labeled for sense, it's at the very bottom of his 1st post)
As another user pointed out, when you first flash a ROM / Kernel your phone doesn't quite know how big your battery is, so it'll take a few days for it to calculate properly.
The gingerbread releases I've found are a bit harder on the battery, as developers continue to develop better kernels and ROM's I'm sure that will change.
Also a few general tips:
- Don't use Task Killers
- Make sure you don't have apps that auto update frequently, and if you do and want them to keep doing it, know that this puts further battery drain.
- Download "spare parts" and check under battery stats for programs that use a lot of Data, CPU, and GPS.
- Don't overclock (if you're using chad's incredikernel then don't worry about anything regarding your CPU, his kernel takes care of all of it)
- Read this article to better understand how your battery is working: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
Link to IncrediKernel Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848453
Link to correct Sense kernel download:
http://chad0989.dyndns.org/2.6.32.27-incredikernel-12232010_signed.zip
I know that was a bit long but hope it was helpful.
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I've heard of spare parts from reading other forums. What exactly does that program do?
I do use advanced task killer. I'll uninstall it and see how it goes. And as for the updating frequency, I use facebook, have it set to update every three hours, as well as the weather widget. Other than that, I don't have a whole lot of apps, besides angry birds and a few things here and there that don't update.
And as far as kernels, I'm more nervous about flashing those more than ROM's. I'll check out Chad's though. Thanks for the advice!
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I've heard of spare parts from reading other forums. What exactly does that program do?
I do use advanced task killer. I'll uninstall it and see how it goes. And as for the updating frequency, I use facebook, have it set to update every three hours, as well as the weather widget. Other than that, I don't have a whole lot of apps, besides angry birds and a few things here and there that don't update.
And as far as kernels, I'm more nervous about flashing those more than ROM's. I'll check out Chad's though. Thanks for the advice!
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You shouldn't be nervous about flashing kernels, all ROM's already have a Kernel included, so you do already flash them. As long as you make a nandroid backup via ClockWorkMod Recovery, then you should have no worries at all when experimenting with new setups.
Spare Parts is basically extended settings menu. The most useful features is it allows you to speed up basic and common transitions, and allows more in-depth view of programs using your battery and exactly what is using your battery (vibrating, 3G, Screen On, a certain app, CPU, etc)
It's free and it's not risky at all, so I suggest you give it a download.
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You shouldn't be nervous about flashing kernels, all ROM's already have a Kernel included, so you do already flash them. As long as you make a nandroid backup via ClockWorkMod Recovery, then you should have no worries at all when experimenting with new setups.
Spare Parts is basically extended settings menu. The most useful features is it allows you to speed up basic and common transitions, and allows more in-depth view of programs using your battery and exactly what is using your battery (vibrating, 3G, Screen On, a certain app, CPU, etc)
It's free and it's not risky at all, so I suggest you give it a download.
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Ok.
I downloaded it. It is a very good app.
But for what it's worth, if FC every time i click "battery history".
Hey guys I've had my Dinc for a while and I love it but the one thing I can't stand is the battery life. I listen to FM radio and a ton of podcasts at work all day and rarely get home with over 30% on a good day, not to mention the numerous phone calls and internet browsing. I've looked into rooting and am admittedly scared to do so, not because I am incapable I just hate to have anything that is less than perfectly stable.
After looking into all of the benefits of rooting, none of them mean much of anything to me, to be honest. The only thing that is causing me to want to root is an improved battery performance. My question is, do you think that it is worth rooting simply for an improved battery life alone? Is it really that significant? Also, I read early on in my Dinc days that there were ways of avoiding the whole "turn phone off to charge completely to 100% thing" by rooting, is that true as well? Thanks!
You can run a custom kernel with SBC to charge to "real" 100%. Many custom kernels will get you significantly better battery life than stock; you also may want to look into using undervolts and underclocks. Personally, I use MIUI latest with the included kernel, and it lasts me for about 2 days of medium use on my Seidio 1750 extended battery. Not that big of a difference in battery size from stock, but the battery life using the MIUI kernel with it is much better than the stock kernel on the same battery. Also, you will get a lot of new features no matter which ROM you try, and some it will become hard to live without. At the moment, I'd recommend CyanogenMod7 Stable Release for you, as it has working FM Radio and many excellent kernels, as well as the performance increases that Android 2.3 Gingerbread brings. I recommend in the way of kernels Tiamat or Chad's incredikernel. Both are much better than even the stock kernel from CM7 on battery life. Every device reacts a bit differently to kernels, so find one best for you. However, then there are the different types of ROMs. There are 3 basic types of ROMs in regards to kernels: Sense, GingerSense, and AOSP. Sense is what you have now most likely; it's a ROM with HTC's Sense interface running on top of Android 2.2 Froyo. There are many options for Sense kernels, and I highly recommend ziggy471's beta kernels and HeyItsLou's #8, #9, and #4. All have worked out well for me in the past. THe second, GingerSense, has no custom kernels out because HTC hasn't released the source code for it yet. When HTC releases it, there will be a flood of GingerSense kernels, and GingerSense ROMs are currently some of the most feature-packed. The third category, AOSP, has many different ROMs in it. It ranges from bone-stock Android 2.3 of OMGB to the custom Gingerbread of the aforementioned CM7 and OMFGB to the iPhone-yness of MIUI to the.... different experience that the Acer LiquidMetal ports offer. There are many kernels available for AOSP, and I recommend those I mentioned above. Also, the stock AOSP kernels are generally quite good. I find AOSP to be easiest on battery; as always, YMMV. In answer to your main question, yes. It really is that significant. We are always glad to add another member to the DInc XDA community. Find what works best for you, and have fun!
EDIT: wow, I just looked at this post, it's really long
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Hey guys I've had my Dinc for a while and I love it but the one thing I can't stand is the battery life. I listen to FM radio and a ton of podcasts at work all day and rarely get home with over 30% on a good day, not to mention the numerous phone calls and internet browsing. I've looked into rooting and am admittedly scared to do so, not because I am incapable I just hate to have anything that is less than perfectly stable.
After looking into all of the benefits of rooting, none of them mean much of anything to me, to be honest. The only thing that is causing me to want to root is an improved battery performance. My question is, do you think that it is worth rooting simply for an improved battery life alone? Is it really that significant? Also, I read early on in my Dinc days that there were ways of avoiding the whole "turn phone off to charge completely to 100% thing" by rooting, is that true as well? Thanks!
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Alright, I think you misunderstand rooting.
All rooting your phone will do will change the boot-loader to S-OFF, which will give you the option of flashing .zip files to your phone. It will also, however, give you complete control of your device. (Overclocking, TIbackup, Removing bloatware, etc.)
The ROM that came with your phone will still be there though. This will not change the stability of your device in any way. Just make sure to follow directions EXACTLY.
If you wanted improved battery life, you will have to go into the custom recovery accessible from the boot-loader, which will allow you to flash a new ROM.
So to answer your question, just rooting your phone will not necessarily improve your phones battery life, actually more likely not. You would have to flash custom ROMs. But to be honest, a lot of them are wayy more stable then stock INC. My buddy has one, and always texts me cause it messes up.
Anyways, good day
You can also root the phone and use custom kernels on the stock rom. Don't necessarily need to be running a different rom to increase battery life.
Awesome thanks a lot for your help guys! I have a couple of other noob questions before I go for it,
First off, would it be too much to ask to have everything setup and working well in the next two nights? I'm going to be going on vacation and only have tonight and tomorrow to get it all set. I jailbroke an ipod once and I remember having a problem and having to plug it into a computer and it was fixed no prob, but I won't have that option now. Would I be wise to wait until after vacation or should everything go smoothly as long I follow directions?
Also, I've looked all around, and I don't see how you guys go about backing everything up before you root. I see apps to backup a rooted phone before flashing a new ROM or something, but not beforehand. I want all of my apps and settings on my newly rooted phone quickly and easily. Possible? Thanks again!
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Awesome thanks a lot for your help guys! I have a couple of other noob questions before I go for it,
First off, would it be too much to ask to have everything setup and working well in the next two nights? I'm going to be going on vacation and only have tonight and tomorrow to get it all set. I jailbroke an ipod once and I remember having a problem and having to plug it into a computer and it was fixed no prob, but I won't have that option now. Would I be wise to wait until after vacation or should everything go smoothly as long I follow directions?
Also, I've looked all around, and I don't see how you guys go about backing everything up before you root. I see apps to backup a rooted phone before flashing a new ROM or something, but not beforehand. I want all of my apps and settings on my newly rooted phone quickly and easily. Possible? Thanks again!
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well when you root it doesnt reset everything you still have all your apps etc...what we do is backup everything after the root process is finished go into recovery and do a nandroid backup of you stock setup just in case and everyhting should go smoothly following directions
On Another Note: as long as youre rooting might as well try out my rom Kingdom Rewind 3D if you have any more questions on rooting just ask
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Here is what I recommend you do. Root by following a video on youtube from applepwns. (it's not me, but that's what I followed and it's very good) make sure you watch his newer video, he has 2, his newer one is better. Rooting will not delete any data. Then, I would download rom manager and buy rom manager pro, and download and install skyraider sense 4.2, a rom very identical to stock, so it will be easy to use, and very stable. Rom manager will do it all for you, just select both wiping options. Also, backup your rom (rom manager asks this after the rom has been downloaded) it will make it so that at any time you can restore back to what you have exactly how it is with apps and everything how it was how you left it. I would also recommend installing incredikernel, you can get the sense version from incredikernel.com. You flash that in recovery. (update your recovery in rom manager, turn off your phone, hold down power button and volume down and when your in hboot scroll down to recovery and go into it, then go to chose zip from sd card, and install it, then reboot. put the incredikernel on the root of your sd card, and don't unzip it, keep the zip zipped) and as for backing up apps, it's very possible. Buy an app called titanium backup pro (you need the free version downloaded as well) and hit menu, batch, backup all apps and data, and hit run (there are also youtube videos on this, just search) and it will put the backups on your SD card (don't backup system data) then after you install the new rom, install the app again, and hit batch, restore apps and data. If you have your google account synced with your phone then your contacts are on it and will automatically be put back on. This can be done in 2 days, it can be done in a few hours. PM me for any questions, I'm happy to help
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1 thing to add to that, I use MyBackup Root instead of Titanium because MyBackup Root is basically the full MyBackup Pro for free, and it can not only back up apps+data, but also photos, contacts, SMS/MMS, bookmarks, music playlists, etc. and you don't have to pay for it to get automated restores (with Titanium free you have to manually install each application once the restore starts.)
I was in a similar situation when trying to decide whether or not to root my DInc. My primary motivation was to remove the bloat, which did help a bit with battery life merely because there were fewer apps for Sense to load up in the background.
I then started trying different Sense kernels because I couldn't find much information out there about which ones were better than others. I felt strongly enough about this I started a thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1107423
I was able to squeeze a few more hours out of my phone using my top rated kernel, with results declining slowly in the lower ranks.
I say: GO FOR IT!
Once you get started, you may find yourself pushing farther into the guts of Android to get your phone working the way you want it to. But even stopping at rooting just to change kernels will get you what you are looking for. Adding a Seidio 1750 mAh battery could help add up to another few hours.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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1 thing to add to that, I use MyBackup Root instead of Titanium because MyBackup Root is basically the full MyBackup Pro for free, and it can not only back up apps+data, but also photos, contacts, SMS/MMS, bookmarks, music playlists, etc. and you don't have to pay for it to get automated restores (with Titanium free you have to manually install each application once the restore starts.)
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Thanks right, you can use MyBackup Root for APK+Data+Market Link + 0-click batch RESTORE for Free. It also allows you to schedule and have as many backups as you would like locally, for free.
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I was in a similar situation when trying to decide whether or not to root my DInc. My primary motivation was to remove the bloat, which did help a bit with battery life merely because there were fewer apps for Sense to load up in the background.
I then started trying different Sense kernels because I couldn't find much information out there about which ones were better than others. I felt strongly enough about this I started a thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1107423
I was able to squeeze a few more hours out of my phone using my top rated kernel, with results declining slowly in the lower ranks.
I say: GO FOR IT!
Once you get started, you may find yourself pushing farther into the guts of Android to get your phone working the way you want it to. But even stopping at rooting just to change kernels will get you what you are looking for. Adding a Seidio 1750 mAh battery could help add up to another few hours.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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I'm keeping up with that thread, it's pretty good
You should definitely take a look, OP.
Hi all,
I'm a new Nexus user and I was just wondering what is currently the best ROM and Kernal people are using. I put Android Revolution HD on my Nexus a few days ago and it's running great. I keep hearing people talk about Cyanogen or the Franco kernal though.
Are the performance improvements that much better, or should I stick to Revolution? I don't require a lot of personalization in terms of how things look. I'm quite happy with the stock look of the phone. I just want all the "behind the scenes" improvements like better battery life and loading times. What's the best setup in your experiences?
Thanks!
I've played around with several of the roms and kernels, with mixed results. It seemed like some roms and kernels would get me crazy performance, but really crappy stability.
The setup I'm running now is a cleanly wiped install of GummyNex 0.8.1 found here, or more directly here OnDemand governor is giving me respectable battery life. When I'm running short, I'll switch to Conservative. I've been meaning to set something up in Tasker or Setting Profiles to do it for me.
And Google apps found here, also more directly here
The kernel I run is Trinity, found here
If you haven't done so already, I found awesome performance improvements by opening the egl,cfg file in /system/lib/egl/, and deleting the first line- usually "0 0 android". Then going back into the egl folder and deleting both the .bak file some editors create, and the "libGLES_android.so" file. This is an ICS tweak that alleges to eliminate CPU rendering. I know there's an option in developer tools to "force GPU rendering", but apparently that doesn't quite cut it.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents, and it's blazing fast and stable. Averaging around 3800 in Quadrant.
Thanks! Revolution HD already does GPU rendering so I'm not to worried about that. I guess I'll just stick with that since it's basically stock with a few performance tweaks. I'm not big on instability :/.
The Trinity kernel looks interesting though... Is the overclock safe though? And does it drain a lot of extra battery?
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Thanks! Revolution HD already does GPU rendering so I'm not to worried about that. I guess I'll just stick with that since it's basically stock with a few performance tweaks. I'm not big on instability :/.
The Trinity kernel looks interesting though... Is the overclock safe though? And does it drain a lot of extra battery?
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Revolution HD is based on 4.0.2 so many kernels will not work because they are based on 4.0.3 and 4.0.4. I highly recommend you use a rom that is based on 4.0.3 AOSP (Such as GummyNex or AOKP). 4.0.3 has better stability/battery/performance tweaks anyway. If you want a better selection of Trinity's kernels go here. TNP1344-ANY-384-aelp (dated Feb 27th) is really nice. If it gives you bootloops up the voltages by 50 or 100.
aokp.27 + glados.v.1.18 OR leankernel.v.2.4.0 (both are stable as a rock)
Alright, I'll try Open Kang I guess. I'm so new to this... Sorry for all the questions :/.
It seems like a hassle to reinstall all your apps often so that you can switch to a new ROM . Does this need to be done every time the device changes its firmware version?
Luuthian said:
Alright, I'll try Open Kang I guess. I'm so new to this... Sorry for all the questions :/.
It seems like a hassle to reinstall all your apps often so that you can switch to a new ROM . Does this need to be done every time the device changes its firmware version?
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Well... you can always backup your apps with Titanium Backup, and save all your preferences (such as Nova Launcher, Minimalistic Text, etc.) and then reload that. And usually if you stick one one Rom and then an update comes from that rom, you don't have to wipe data (just cache & dalvik cache). But if you're switching Roms, then yes, you have to reinstall all your apps.
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Alright, I'll try Open Kang I guess. I'm so new to this... Sorry for all the questions :/.
It seems like a hassle to reinstall all your apps often so that you can switch to a new ROM . Does this need to be done every time the device changes its firmware version?
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with titanium pro its a matter of minutes, saves your app-data also, so you don't loose your highscores. but as was mentioned before, updates go through without factory-reset most of the time once you're settled.
btw, aokp is perfectly stable.
I'm running gummy with the latest lean kernel and love it. Battery life is great and performance is top notch. Big fan of team gummy. I get a solid full days use regularly. usually around 20% when I plug it in after 16 hours of use and I use it fairly regularly, wifi, 4g, txt, web, etc.
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Hi,
I have played with my Gnex for the Past 4 months (Released Dec 8th in Canada). I have installed many mods, kernels, ROMS (Currently on AOKP MS3 and Francko Kernel MS1). I love the utilities provided by these custom apps, but I keep having stability problems from time to time and its getting a little bit disapoint.
* My Juice Def apps gets killed and settings are reset.
* I only see 50% of the pic when people call me.
* Volume is at max, but cant hear my music because of ambiant noise (to tell yuo hoe low the volume becomes)
* I Dont know how to use he Undervolting and Overvolting of the CPUS, and I dont realy care (Too technical for me)
* Whatever ROM is used, it still sucks my battery. Juice Defender is very good at doubling my battery life.
These are some reasons that I might bo back to STOCK KERNEL and ICS.
For those of you who returned to STOCK, Did you miss all the tweaks ROMS and Kernel gives you? Do you notice a different in speed?
Thanks.
Sounds like you're overall not happy with your experience.
If all of these cool tweaks are making it so you can't regularly use the phone like you like it, just return to stock. Its not worth sacrificing your enjoyment of the phone just to get some cool tweaks.
Problem is.. I dont really remember how its to run a stock phone. :S
same here..i also would like to go back to stock..
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same here..i also would like to go back to stock..
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Then do it! No one's stopping you. There is no shame in returning to stock lol. Its okay.
I want back to stock for a day and changed my mind.... main reason that I don't like the stock is lack of toggles and overall smoothness. Oooo and you have no idea how often I use search icon on navbar . Also this is my main way of communicating with people. Voice actions are brill testing and calling is very easy with this. Someone will say that I can do that from search bar .... yes but 9 out of 10 times I'll miss tapping the icon ....
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Did I return to stock? Well, after successfully compiling my first ROM (AOSP 4.0.3) I found out that my backups were deleted so I had to reflash some stock images from Google. I'm having enough fun playing with the phone on my own...I can be patient to see what improvements other ROMs come up with.
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I am running AOKP MS3 and have been flashing the latest Franco kernel. I had the same issues as you and a full wipe and reflash solved all of those issues. Hope this helps you!
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Malarie said:
Hi,
I have played with my Gnex for the Past 4 months (Released Dec 8th in Canada). I have installed many mods, kernels, ROMS (Currently on AOKP MS3 and Francko Kernel MS1). I love the utilities provided by these custom apps, but I keep having stability problems from time to time and its getting a little bit disapoint.
* My Juice Def apps gets killed and settings are reset.
* I only see 50% of the pic when people call me.
* Volume is at max, but cant hear my music because of ambiant noise (to tell yuo hoe low the volume becomes)
* I Dont know how to use he Undervolting and Overvolting of the CPUS, and I dont realy care (Too technical for me)
* Whatever ROM is used, it still sucks my battery. Juice Defender is very good at doubling my battery life.
These are some reasons that I might bo back to STOCK KERNEL and ICS.
For those of you who returned to STOCK, Did you miss all the tweaks ROMS and Kernel gives you? Do you notice a different in speed?
Thanks.
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1. I use juice defender too and I NEVER saw it getting killed. The settings do reset everytime you flash something even if you don't wipe cache but that's the developer's problem no the roms/kernels. The solution is simple : just backup your settings from JD's status tab and restore it after you flash zips in recovery.
2. Well known issue with m3. there was a fix zip floating around but you should just update. m3 is not anymore stable than the newer aokp builds. b26/27 are very stable but just wait a few days and m4 will be out for sure.
3. I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying you can't hear the music at 100% volume? Does it go away with stock kernel? then it might be franco's volume hack. Try leankernel 2.4 if you want something lean, fast, with GREAT battery life and without all the extra bells and whistles. you need to go to rootzwiki.com to dl leankernel.
4. You don't need to undervolt with gnexus and even if you do, it's completely pointless. It causes instability and the battery savings are negligible.
5. Wipe data and cache and flash leankernel 2.4 and aokp b26 (or m4 when it comes out). You'll lose all your settings but I think this combination will keep you happy for along time.
6. I used JD Ultimate for a long time and after a lot of testing on leankernel 2.4, I find it completely redundant.
I'm back to stock (stock launcher too).
It's because I've never had any real problem with stock in the first place. No battery drain, no dropped calls, no sluggish interface and everything works. Then the most important thing is I LOVE the simplicity feel that stock offers so I've decided to go back to stock.
Nothing against custom ROMs.
This is why after you root its always good to Nandroid your stock rom.
The only thing i like about stock is that i know its not going to fail me and i know i dont have to always mess around with tweaks and other things.. it just does what it was meant to do..
Custom roms seems to always have problems with different kernels or maybe the ROM is just in beta.. or a tweak is causing something else to break..
But we also have some good custom roms base off of stock with nothing too much added.. like Android Revolatuion.. No diss towards other roms tho.. just people dont want to always have to change or fix something
Malarie said:
Hi,
I have played with my Gnex for the Past 4 months (Released Dec 8th in Canada). I have installed many mods, kernels, ROMS (Currently on AOKP MS3 and Francko Kernel MS1). I love the utilities provided by these custom apps, but I keep having stability problems from time to time and its getting a little bit disapoint.
* My Juice Def apps gets killed and settings are reset.
* I only see 50% of the pic when people call me.
* Volume is at max, but cant hear my music because of ambiant noise (to tell yuo hoe low the volume becomes)
* I Dont know how to use he Undervolting and Overvolting of the CPUS, and I dont realy care (Too technical for me)
* Whatever ROM is used, it still sucks my battery. Juice Defender is very good at doubling my battery life.
These are some reasons that I might bo back to STOCK KERNEL and ICS.
For those of you who returned to STOCK, Did you miss all the tweaks ROMS and Kernel gives you? Do you notice a different in speed?
Thanks.
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It all comes down to personal choices really.
To me i tried AOKP rom with Franco kernel and it really rocked. But then i went back to stock since 4.0.2 with XXKK6 gives me good battery life and its rock stable.. no issues. i do have to give up a lot of customizations but i can live with it. no problem.
The reason i don't want to install custom roms yet is that i would go crazy with flashing roms and it would be addicting so right now i just want to stay away..i would get bored after trying all new roms.. so right now STOCK.. just want to savour the beautiful Galaxy Nexus as is.
I went back to stock on Sunday. I was checking to see if wallet would work on stock but it didn't. When it booted up stock the first time I was like:
http://troll.me/images/snape-dafuq/dafuq-is-this-****.jpg
When I got my phone it was stock for about 5 minutes. AOKP FTW!
Confused. You can run ROMs with the stock kernel. IMHO, stock kernel> any custom kernel. My experience, custom kernels create different problems.
Kernel enthusiasts tend to be a little... too enthusiastic. They tend to ignore the problems and measurebate about supposed battery life or performance.
My best combination is AOKP ROM for the features and stock kernel with a couple performance tweaks in the developer settings.
Now I just go about using my phone to enhance my life rather than the other way round.
YMMV, and it is your life, of course.
Sent from the Galaxy Nexus far, far away.
liverstealerJobs said:
Confused. You can run ROMs with the stock kernel. IMHO, stock kernel> any custom kernel. My experience, custom kernels create different problems.
Kernel enthusiasts tend to be a little... too enthusiastic. They tend to ignore the problems and measurebate about supposed battery life or performance.
My best combination is AOKP ROM for the features and stock kernel with a couple performance tweaks in the developer settings.
Now I just go about using my phone to enhance my life rather than the other way round.
YMMV, and it is your life, of course.
Sent from the Galaxy Nexus far, far away.
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I agree 100%.
I never had any issue with AOKP. But I use stock kernel. Custom kernels are for those who can live with a phone not working 100 % and alarm clock fail to ring in the morning. If you want the best of the best for the Gnex, flash AOKP, and nothing else. And don't mess with performance settings.
And btw. The only ROM that ever randomly rebooted on me, was stock ROM. How is that for a laugh?
Stop using Juice Defender. It sucks or it has some serious bugs on Nexus I don't know. Stock everything I had juice defender on and strange things were happening. Touching screen would do nothing, apps would close on their own. When I took it off everything was fine again. Juice defender was recommended to me by someone else. So oh well, seems he was luckier than me running it. Fast forward a week, I got interested in ROM's, now running AOKP with Fugumod kernel and thought hmm maybe give juice defender another shot. Within 1 day I removed it. AGAIN, apps crashing, touches not being recognized, slowness switching screens. I say Juice defender stinks or has lots of bugs. My battery life is just fine with AOKP and Fugumod. Right now my Nexus is perfection. I can quickly get in and out of apps and there is no slowness or anything. I can't see myself ever going back to stock.
I'm running stock 4.0.4 with no issues.
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I'm debating going back to stock.
Came from 4.0.2 stock to AOKP 1-30 milestone + franco.
The new ROM is nice and all, but like every 15-30m I get randomly disconnected from the network and takes 15s to reconnect. It's semi-tolerable but I hate things like this.
why was music app missing from AOKP rom Milestone 3? who do you get it back?