Hello Everyone,
I am going to be getting a Nexus 7 for Christmas this year with plans to use it at the office, particularly to take to meetings for note-taking and sharing PDF's of plans and reports (I'm a civil engineer). I've been doing some research on gear and believe I'm going to want an external keyboard, but don't know exactly which way to go. I've read lots of mixed reviews on the keyboard cases such as this one. Some say they're great, others say they're too small to be useful (and I have pretty big hands).
I've read awesome reviews on this keyboard as well as this one. But I'm not sure how I would easily transport the tablet and keyboard.
In addition, I'll need some sort of case I would imagine. I've got all these thoughts going through my head and would like some advice from you guys on things that have worked for you
Don't buy the keyboard cases if I were you. It's pretty hard to type on I have big hands and was just not comfortable at all to type on it. Ended up returning two keyboards very similar to those. I guess they can't really make a very comfortable keyboard in a7 inch form factor so can't really blame them. I'm in the same boat as you I would like to get some sort of case what the keyboard so that I can carry my tablet with me all together. I'm still on the quest to looking for a nice keyboard case. But if you really want to be comfortable and typing something thats really usable then get just a normal Bluetooth keyboard full-size.
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you Might be best to go for a case like this http://www.xtremecables.net/7inchneoprenecase.aspx so you can carrry KB too if it fits or even a larger 10" neoprene case. I really like the neoprenecases myself. Man purse
I've been looking at the Stealth Pro case by M-Edge, but only because I have a ridiculous discount; the cost would be prohibitive otherwise.
Trouble is, no one seems to have reviewed it. The feel of a keyboard is personal but crucial, so I hesitate to experiment (even at $40) when I'm fairly sure I'd like the Logitech 760.
Pity the Microsoft Wedge Mobile is said to have connection issues. It seems like the best ergonomic compromise (the slant of the raised keyboard looks perfect for typing) and comes with a useful case that "powers down the device when attached," doubles as a tablet stand and adds a lovely silver border around the relatively large keys.
I like the look of the stealth pro, but same issue comes up in my mind....is the keyboard too small to really be usable. Plus it's too expensive. I'd really like to find a slimmer case that has a pocket or sleeve I could slide that Anker keyboard into.
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joelcripes said:
I like the look of the stealth pro, but same issue comes up in my mind....is the keyboard too small to really be usable. Plus it's too expensive. I'd really like to find a slimmer case that has a pocket or sleeve I could slide that Anker keyboard into.
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As I say, the Stealth Pro would be $40 for me, but M-Edge doesn't have a history of making any keyboard before this one, let alone great ones.
Are you talking about the Anker Ultra-Slim 4mm? It does seem to get stellar reviews, and I like how easily it can be switched from Android to Windows if key combinations become problematic.
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As I say, the Stealth Pro would be $40 for me, but M-Edge doesn't have a history of making any keyboard before this one, let alone great ones.
Are you talking about the Anker Ultra-Slim 4mm? It does seem to get stellar reviews, and I like how easily it can be switched from Android to Windows if key combinations become problematic.
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Yep, that's the Anker I'm talking about. I just need a good carrying method.
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joelcripes said:
Yep, that's the Anker I'm talking about. I just need a good carrying method.
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I have the N7 and the Anker Slim keyboard. I have this case for the keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Cosmos-Neoprene-Carrying-Protection-Wireless/dp/B00BUYIHN2/ref=pd_sim_pc_3
The N7 in a thin case like the Poetic Slimline:
http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Slimli...386992704&sr=1-2&keywords=poetic+slim+nexus+7
fits in the Cosmos outer mesh pocket.
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I have the N7 and the Anker Slim keyboard. I have this case for the keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Cosmos-Neoprene-Carrying-Protection-Wireless/dp/B00BUYIHN2/ref=pd_sim_pc_3
The N7 in a thin case like the Poetic Slimline:
http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Slimli...386992704&sr=1-2&keywords=poetic+slim+nexus+7
fits in the Cosmos outer mesh pocket.
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Nice. How's the typing on it?
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joelcripes said:
Yep, that's the Anker I'm talking about. I just need a good carrying method.
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Nice. How's the typing on it?
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Personally, I like it and it has a lot of positive reviews on Amazon. It is incredibly light. I also have the Logitech keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-...5&sr=1-7&keywords=logitech+bluetooth+keyboard
It weighs a ton compared to the Anker.
So here's another question. Has anyone used a stylus to write notes on their Nexus "by hand"?
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IMHO, using Swiftkey Flow is much faster than any 7" keyboard or stylus option.
If you want a bluetooth keyboard, you'll be better off to spring for a full sized. I had an HP Touchpad keyboard that worked very well. When I bought a 7" keyboard case, I found that the keys are WAY too cramped to type on any faster than hunt-peck.
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Personally, I like it and it has a lot of positive reviews on Amazon. It is incredibly light. I also have the Logitech keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-...5&sr=1-7&keywords=logitech+bluetooth+keyboard
It weighs a ton compared to the Anker.
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I own devices which run on four platforms at the moment: Windows, OX X, Linux and Android (though you could argue I've only listed three platforms, since Android = Linux).
Since Logitech is the only option with a lit keyboard, I might get one for home use at some point.
Logically, the Anker is the one to get for the road and for everything but Windows 8.
That said, I was able to use a discount code on the Mobile Wedge (W8) from Office Depot and thought I'd try it, since the price has only climbed everywhere else. Some people have complained about connection issues; I'll let you know how it fares.
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IMHO, using Swiftkey Flow is much faster than any 7" keyboard or stylus option.
If you want a bluetooth keyboard, you'll be better off to spring for a full sized. I had an HP Touchpad keyboard that worked very well. When I bought a 7" keyboard case, I found that the keys are WAY too cramped to type on any faster than hunt-peck.
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I can agree with you this one.
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I can agree with you this one.
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I really can't agree. I find SwiftKey's substitutions maddening -- particularly when I'm writing fiction or an essay that uses neologisms, and especially when punctuating more elaborately than might be appropriate while texting, tweeting or twatting (insert pelvis-clutching emoticon). The whole point of being a writer is not to use predictable, repetitive language, which is what SwiftKey is constantly trying to force the user to do.
Besides which, full-sized keyboards aren't always an option.
I also think that users' idiosyncrasies and abuse-case scenarios are too disparate for keyboard generalizations to ever prove universal. Sparksd makes a fair point, but it isn't always applicable (though it might be to the OP's concerns).
In my case, the relative size of the keyboards doesn't matter. I'm a classically trained studio keyboardist and writer; I grew up playing full-sized weighted keys, but part of the craft involves being able to play accurately on keyboards of every size and touch. That's why I have various controllers for different tasks -- from a hoary KX88 for its heavy action to a lowly Keystation 32 for the lightest possible size and weight.
I find that being able to scale my technique to the size and touch of an instrument is also useful on QWERTY keyboards.
I'm sure I'll find the Wedge Mobile and the Anker infinitely more intuitive than SwiftKey (which I also own). The only thing I'm unsure of is whether the Wedge will disappoint in terms of holding its bluetooth connection.
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I really can't agree. I find SwiftKey's substitutions maddening -- particularly when I'm writing fiction or an essay that uses neologisms, and especially when punctuating more elaborately than might be appropriate while texting, tweeting or twatting (insert pelvis-clutching emoticon). The whole point of being a writer is not to use predictable, repetitive language, which is what SwiftKey is constantly trying to force the user to do.
Besides which, full-sized keyboards aren't always an option.
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In my case, the relative size of the keyboards doesn't matter. I'm a classically trained studio keyboardist and writer; I grew up playing full-sized weighted keys, but part of the craft involves being able to play accurately on keyboards of every size and touch. That's why I have various controllers for different tasks -- from a hoary KX88 for its heavy action to a lowly Keystation 32 for the lightest possible size and weight.
I find that being able to scale my technique to the size and touch of an instrument is also useful on QWERTY keyboards.
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Quite the contrarian!
I learned initially on a mechanical typewriter that weighed more than I did (or so it seemed). I type over 100wpm when I'm copying text or writing something I've pre-composed in my head, and 80+wpm if I'm composing while I write.
Doesn't matter how well you're trained - unless you have tiny hands and fingers, a tiny keyboard is never going to be as fast as a full sized keyboard, unless you're slow on the full sized keyboard. Sure, you may be faster on the tiny keyboard than others, but you won't be as fast as you would be on a larger keyboard. 7" is just the wrong size for a QWERTY. Smaller and you could thumb it like a blackberry. Bigger and you could touch type properly. It is in that nebulous void between those two areas. Sure, you could have one that is SLIGHTLY more precise than using the touchscreen, but the only gain is going to be tactile feedback. And what you lose is flow/swype ability that exists in most top-tier software keyboards now. If you haven't adopted a flow/swype style yet, maybe that's not important. But it's much faster than hunt-pecking, and approaches touch typing speed if you're accustomed to it.
As far as SwiftKey "forcing" you to do anything, nobody says you have to use the predictions. Mostly I use them just for when it guesses the word wrong on Flow, or when I typo the word and get something else. The correct word is usually in the predictions, which is faster than backspacing and trying again.
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If I'm the contrarian, then why are you the one who posted on a thread asking for the best scaled-down keyboard just to say they're all useless?
Doesn't matter how well you're trained - unless you have tiny hands and fingers, a tiny keyboard is never going to be as fast as a full sized keyboard, unless you're slow on the full sized keyboard.
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You're presupposing that every user expects the same experience from a smaller keyboard as a larger one -- as opposed to an improved experience for an individual with specific preferences.
Sure, you may be faster on the tiny keyboard than others, but you won't be as fast as you would be on a larger keyboard. 7" is just the wrong size for a QWERTY. Smaller and you could thumb it like a blackberry. Bigger and you could touch type properly. It is in that nebulous void between those two areas. Sure, you could have one that is SLIGHTLY more precise than using the touchscreen, but the only gain is going to be tactile feedback. And what you lose is flow/swype ability that exists in most top-tier software keyboards now. If you haven't adopted a flow/swype style yet, maybe that's not important. But it's much faster than hunt-pecking, and approaches touch typing speed if you're accustomed to it.
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Your extended use of the second person implies you feel that your optimal experience is normative. And while I appreciate the specificity of your preferences, and don't doubt that many people would agree with them, I have to point out that your preferences aren't mine, which is an indication that you don't speak for everyone.
What I'm after is stochastic precision of thought as opposed to pure speed. I revise heavily, so there are times when haste is actually a deterrent. When I write, I feel most alive not when thought is quickest but when word alchemy is purest.
As far as SwiftKey "forcing" you to do anything, nobody says you have to use the predictions.
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The entire experience of SwiftKey is predicated on the ease of use afforded by predictive text. The idea is that it learns what the user does repeatedly, which is fine if one's intention is to repeat oneself and if one's style is not felicitously idiosyncratic.
Mostly I use them just for when it guesses the word wrong on Flow, or when I typo the word and get something else. The correct word is usually in the predictions, which is faster than backspacing and trying again.
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Whereas my experience is that SwiftKey's substitutions are almost never correct. Google's were actually more accurate, but neither VK is satisfactory when I'm writing fiction.
I don't mind lingering over text while I'm writing. The speed afforded by the keyboard needn't be Andretti-fast. What must never happen is for the AI to insert banal words and syntax continuously while I'm confecting sentences deliberately.
Everyone has their own preferences when seeking tools for specific work. I picked up my Mobile Wedge two nights ago and, so far, it's been aces. No bluetooth dropouts, perfect form factor, extremely useful keyboard cover / tablet stand and very reasonable output. The Anker has more versatile keyboard mapping (separate maps for android, windows and mac; the home button really takes you to the home page, unlike the Wedge's), but I bought a keyboard for writing, not navigating the desktop.
Alright, after much thought and research. I've decided to go with either the Anker Ultra Slim (4mm) keyboard, or the Lumsing Ultra Thin Keyboard.
The Anker has awesome reviews, but I'm concerned with the placement and size of the right shift key. I do like that it's incredibly small and thin.
The Lumsing is slightly larger, but has a better shift key. It also has an awesome built in stand feature. However, it's only got 7 reviews.
Thoughts?
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Alright, after much thought and research. I've decided to go with either the Anker Ultra Slim (4mm) keyboard, or the Lumsing Ultra Thin Keyboard.
The Anker has awesome reviews, but I'm concerned with the placement and size of the right shift key. I do like that it's incredibly small and thin.
The Lumsing is slightly larger, but has a better shift key. It also has an awesome built in stand feature. However, it's only got 7 reviews.
Thoughts?
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I could probably get used to Anker's right shift key, eventually, but not comfortably. The Lumsing looks so nice that I'm tempted to get one. Overall I think the relatively few reviews are still pretty good.
Not related to office but I find at home, I use a case to stand it up then fire up my PS3 controller and rock on emulators and play the classic games, plenty of games on the Market but there's something special about playing nostalgia games. Just another use for the tab if your into gaming.
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I am looking for a successor to my Desire Z and as manufacturers do not release any new devices with a hard keyboard I am trying to find a solution to have a hard keyboard. I'd like to have an SGS 3 with keyboard. I had found this keyboard case for the Galaxy Note at Brando http:// shop.brando.com/samsung-galaxy-note-reclosable-fastener-case-with-bluetooth-keyboard_p7254c299d57.html. I have asked if they planned to release the same kind for the SGS 3 but it's not in their plans for the moment.
Are you aware of similar products or do you have any idea on how I could build my own slide-out keyboard on the phone or attached to an appropriate case ?
For the 2nd solution I would need to find a closing cover with right dimensions (needs to allow to be closed while phone and device are both inside; the case should be not too loose, I mean if I'm typing from the keyboard not laying on a desk I should be able to have a right angle to view the screen and the phone should stay firmly in place....) and I could attach the keyboard with a scratch.
Thanks for your advices.
I'm in the exact same boat. I want a higher spec phone, but I can't bare to leave my physical keyboard behind. It's just so much better than swype or whatever.
I had a friend who insisted on a a full keyboard coming from Blackberrys, back when he had a Motorola Droid. He upgraded to a Galaxy Nexus recently and has told me he couldn't believe why he was such a stickler for a keyboard. honestly I haven't found my typing to be any worse.
You really are going to be left behind if you expect high end hardware to have physical keyboards. The whole platform is moving away from physical buttons, best learn to adapt now, many people have wondered why Samsung gave the S3 a physical home button since the GNex went without.
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I had a friend who insisted on a a full keyboard coming from Blackberrys, back when he had a Motorola Droid. He upgraded to a Galaxy Nexus recently and has told me he couldn't believe why he was such a stickler for a keyboard. honestly I haven't found my typing to be any worse.
You really are going to be left behind if you expect high end hardware to have physical keyboards. The whole platform is moving away from physical buttons, best learn to adapt now, many people have wondered why Samsung gave the S3 a physical home button since the GNex went without.
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I love the home button, so glad S III has it. Love the tactile FEEL of it. Wish it had camera button too.
I have a Droid. I love its keyboard. I'd buy a keyboard case (like OP posted for Note above) if someone made it for S III.
Although the screen is big it makes on screen keys ok but I would still buy a keyboard case for S III. If someone makes one. There is a thread on this at AndroidCentral IIRC as well...will find a link later if I remember..
You could get an inexpensive micro bluetooth keyboard and keep it on hand, or get someone on etsy to make a case that both your phone and the keyboard would fit into. http://www.amazon.com/s/?field-keywords=micro+bluetooth+keyboard I've got that keyboard and just keep it in my bag.
There is a company called boxwave that has a keyboard "buddy" case for the iphone. I have contacted them and they say if they receive enough requests that they will create one. Request url is [colon]//www[dot]boxwave[dot]com/community/request/request_model.cfm.
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There is a company called boxwave that has a keyboard "buddy" case for the iphone. I have contacted them and they say if they receive enough requests that they will create one. Request url is [colon]//www[dot]boxwave[dot]com/community/request/request_model.cfm.
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This would probably be the best option TBH. I'm not a huge fan of a physical keyboard myself, but I see a lot of people not making the switch from RIM because of the lack of great Android hardware with this (primitive?) feature. I agree with the above poster in regards to the fact that the industry is moving away from physical buttons, in general. Even RIM tried multiple times to "dip their fingers" into touchscreen technology (see BlackBerry Storm or BlackBerry Torch) but (IMO) could not sell enough units to justify abandoning what has been successful for them for nearly the past decade. Of course manufacturers are seeing sales explode as they are producing thinner and thinner phones, simply because phones that have slim, aesthetically-pleasing design profiles are much more desirable for a multitude of reasons. I'm afraid to say that until a manufacturer can produce a device that is competitively thin and light I don't see physical keyboards remaining relevant for much longer.
However, to more directly address the topic of this thread, I don't think that any other "keyboard cases" will be seen for this phone, so you should probably try and request that the company in the quoted post create one. For one, as hinted to above, most people purchasing this device see its sleek profile as a major perk. Many people across multiple forums are discussing which cases are best and are looking for the following desirable attributes: thin with a lot of protection. Some will sacrifice their "1mm or less" requirement for a case that will survive a fall from a pocket or backpack, and these people (sometimes begrudgingly) purchase popular high-protection cases such as the Otterbox Commuter/Defender or Trident Aegis/Kraken. I believe that this is the only reason people would be willing to purchase thicker cases for this phone (or at least enough people for these companies to justify making cases that are purposely thicker). Additionally, these people are paying a premium because the manufacturing costs for making these thicker cases are certainly higher. If just having thicker, more protective materials are driving the costs of these cases above ~$25, how much would you assume the Bluetooth keyboard cases would cost? BoxWave charges $79.99 for their iPhone 4S version at the time of this post - a pretty hefty amount in a market where people are looking to eBay to purchase cases for under $10. It just doesn't make sense economically for companies to produce cases like this.
One might argue this point by using the existence of the BoxWave iPhone 4S model as proof that enough people will buy an expensive, thick case to make it happen for our comparatively slim phone. However, this defense would ignore the main reason why a physical keyboard is more (read: slightly) in demand for Apple's flagship device. When comparing the ease of typing on the iPhone 4S, which has a 3.5 inch screen, to that of the Galaxy S3, which has a 4.8 inch screen, their is no comparison. The larger screen real estate of our phone is vastly superior mainly due to the fact that the key size can be quite a bit larger. Also, one should consider the fact that Android keyboards can be changed quite readily and are becoming much easier to customize. It appears that anyone can find a keyboard that works for them, no matter their virtual typing style. Therefore, I don't imagine the demand being even close to similar.
That is just my two cents. I will request the case for you, but I honestly don't think that it will come to fruition for the aforementioned reasons. People are not looking for heavy, sturdy handsets anymore - they try to keep it simple and light. Keep in mind that Samsung was able to sell 10 million units in record time and the build quality does not even resemble that of stuggling manufacturers like HTC and Motorola.
Thank you. Requested. Please everyone let's join in on this request here...
Requested 1 myself. I've always missed the keyboard that my G1 had. Since the GS3 is fairly large, wonder if a track pad could be added onto the far right of the keyboard. I miss a trackpad/roller ball to move the cursor around for editing or whatnot.
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That is just my two cents. I will request the case for you, but I honestly don't think that it will come to fruition for the aforementioned reasons. People are not looking for heavy, sturdy handsets anymore - they try to keep it simple and light. Keep in mind that Samsung was able to sell 10 million units in record time and the build quality does not even resemble that of stuggling manufacturers like HTC and Motorola.
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Could you explain this part in other words i dont get it. Not your fault my english is not so advances
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Could you explain this part in other words i dont get it. Not your fault my english is not so advances
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He means even thought the S3 is actually pretty cheaply made (goddamn **** plastic like always), it sells like cocaine to a homeless drug addict. Even though Motorola, and HTC make far superior handsets build wise (trust me, I had the One X, best phone I've owned by far), they can't compete with Samsung.
Nowadays, thinner and lighter is better, and therefore buying a big, bulky keyboard case is silly if you think about it for such a thin and light device.
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He means even thought the S3 is actually pretty cheaply made (goddamn **** plastic like always), it sells like cocaine to a homeless drug addict. Even though Motorola, and HTC make far superior handsets build wise (trust me, I had the One X, best phone I've owned by far), they can't compete with Samsung.
Nowadays, thinner and lighter is better, and therefore buying a big, bulky keyboard case is silly if you think about it for such a thin and light device.
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This. Saved me some time explaining. Thanks, my friend. Love the metaphor :laugh:
A co-worker of mine has the Keyboard Buddy for his iPhone 4, and it's actually pretty nice. He said it takes a little getting used to, but once you have it, you can't go without it. The physical keyboard makes typing way easier, and if you're used to sending all emails/messages directly from your phone (i.e. crackberry users), then this is a must have if you have an iPhone 4.
Sorry, I got off on a little tangent talking about the keyboard case for iPhone 4, but I was just trying to illustrate how useful a keyboard case could be for the S3. So maybe for the casual everyday user, it's not as crucial. But if you're a more heavy duty/business type user, a decent keyboard case could make all the difference.
Also just my $0.02 =)
yes most people won't want one, sure. Some people DO want a real keyboard and are willing and ready to pay. I'd pay GOOD money for one. I hope this Buddy Case company makes one. Since S III is such a hugely popular phone. I think they'd for sure make a profit if they were to make Buddy Case for S III. Again...people looking to buy this have tried touchscreen keyboards and already decided they'd prefer a keyboard case. It's settled. We are not changing our mind. I have SwiftKey. Yes it's ok. But I'd prefer a good keyboard case.
Yay more "learn to do without" and "evolve" posts about physical keyboards.
As for the "thinner" excuse, the Nokia E7 was right in the ballpark at 13.6mm (say compared to the HTC EVO at it's 13mm, or the iPhone 3GS at 12.3mm but 4.3mm thicker than the iPhone4) too bad it just had a 600MHz CPU and Symbian.
I just had to chime in. We all know that those who prefer form over function (thinner vs keyboard) are the majority, but that doesn't mean we all like hearing those of us who prefer a physical keyboard are relics and need to "adapt/evolve" with the times or "deal with it."
Kinda does actually, companies cater to the masses. The masses being the "thinner, lighter, better" boat, while the "keyboard people" boat is way behind. Companies won't invest in something that won't sell well
If you guys really want a keyboard that bad, the S3 isn't for you. Its better to buy a phone with one already.
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Kinda does actually, companies cater to the masses. The masses being the "thinner, lighter, better" boat, while the "keyboard people" boat is way behind. Companies won't invest in something that won't sell well
If you guys really want a keyboard that bad, the S3 isn't for you. Its better to buy a phone with one already.
Sent from my sexy white Galaxy S3 on T-Mobile.
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agreed maybe you guys should keep a look out for the t-mobile relay 4g. smaller screen but hopefully same internals as the s3!
They made one already. http://shop.brando.com/Samsung-Gala...-with-Bluetooth-Keyboard_p07999c1420d057.html
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They made one already. http://shop.brando.com/Samsung-Gala...-with-Bluetooth-Keyboard_p07999c1420d057.html
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Eh. Meh.
I want a SLIDING case like the Case Buddy, but for our S III. With a nice solid sliding click that is beefy and satisfying, the the mechanism in the Droid series by Moto. I reeeeally miss the build quality and keyboard of my Droid 2.
I actually found one. I want to buy this. http://www.ele-boat.com/Details.asp?ID=1
But I can not figure out how to buy it?? Anyone else get one of these?
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Eh. Meh.
I want a SLIDING case like the Case Buddy, but for our S III. With a nice solid sliding click that is beefy and satisfying, the the mechanism in the Droid series by Moto. I reeeeally miss the build quality and keyboard of my Droid 2.
I actually found one. I want to buy this. http://www.ele-boat.com/Details.asp?ID=1
But I can not figure out how to buy it?? Anyone else get one of these?
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According to http://www.ele-boat.com/Contact.asp I believe you can set it up by emailing [email protected]
I just got my Note 10.1 as a surprise gift . Great day .
I am not sure whether I will need a keyboard because I have a small notebook for heavy typing but still...
I just checked ebay and chinese/hk sellers have some interesting stuff like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/x/390562886255
Did you try something like this? Or do you have some other recommendations?
cer67 said:
I just got my Note 10.1 as a surprise gift . Great day .
I am not sure whether I will need a keyboard because I have a small notebook for heavy typing but still...
I just checked ebay and chinese/hk sellers have some interesting stuff like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/x/390562886255
Did you try something like this? Or do you have some other recommendations?
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I tried a similar one purchased from Amazon and it was awful.
There seem to be two types of keyboards available for this device: The fully integrated keyboard/case/stand like this one, which has a keyboard with AWFUL keys. It also would frequently disconnect from the device.
The second appear to be the "clip on" style with "chiclet" keys on the keyboard. I haven't purchased one of these since it isn't a full blown case.
The fully integrated keyboard/case/stand
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you say that this keyboard is somehow "glued" to the case? or it just looks like that.
thanks for the other information. I am not even sure whether I really need it because I use notebook for typing.
I had one of these cases for my tab 8.9 and although I never had any problems with it disconnecting, the keys do feel awful. I couldn't type very fast with it so never really used it that much. I prefered to use the onscreen keyboard with swype.
i purchased this 20 dollar one from amazon
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I had one of these cases for my tab 8.9 and although I never had any problems with it disconnecting, the keys do feel awful. I couldn't type very fast with it so never really used it that much. I prefered to use the onscreen keyboard with swype.
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i purchased this one from amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Anker®-Blueto...0733&sr=8-1&keywords=anker+bluetooth+keyboard
i like it. works well.
connects easily
I was able to score a Microsoft wedge keyboard from ebay for $32. Its a great little keyboard, excellent feel, and it has a heavy rubber cover that makes me feel a little better about putting it in my bag with everything else.
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I bought one of the clip-on keyboards. Using use it very often but it works fibre. I have small hands so it works for me. I also have a usb folio case for another tab. It was cheap and freshly like it would fall apart, but it keeps on touching and it even works with the galaxy.
Both work well enough for my purposes.
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It's from the same seller that sells the Poetic cases so customer service should be stellar if there are any problems. And their keyboard for the 1st gen N7 gets pretty decent reviews.
http://www.amazon.com/Exact-Bluetoo...=8-1&keywords=exact+google+nexus+7+2+keyboard
Here are the reviews for the 1st gen:
http://www.amazon.com/Exact-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Rubberized-Non-Slip/dp/B00AD9RLJ6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_2
This is exactly what I came here looking for: a Bluetooth keyboard to use with my Nexus 7. For $10, I think I'll pull the trigger. The reviews of the first-gen aren't too promising, but it seems like they took care of a few of the concerns voiced in those reviews (the Tab key, etc.). I guess I'll find out whether or not I like it when it gets here. Again, for $10, why not?
I figured the same. I've spent 10 bucks on dumber stuff than this...let's give it a try.
Wow... $10 looks like a steal for that keyboard; I bought what looks like the same one for 3 times as much off ebay.
If it is the same one, I like it a lot less than the model for the original Nexus 7. The ridge around it (the silver part) is actually taller for some reason -- though the entire thing is still slimmer thanks to the nexus 7 itself being slimmer -- but the worst part is the fit; it's loose, the tablet slides around (horizontally if you are reading the nexus logo straight on.) (If the "Exact" model DOESN'T have that issue please let me know so I can get one. )
None of that is a deal breaker for me though; I still like the case enough to use it. Keeps the screen protected and clips in and out, then lets you type when you need to.
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If anyone who gets this case can post some pics and reviews, that would be much appreciated. I'm looking for a good, no frills keyboard, and this could be it.
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By the time someone gets it and posts a review, they're probably going to raise the price. They always start off with an introductory promo price like they did with the Poetic case. FWIW, the same keyboard for the old N7 is $18.95.
I should've bought it last night. The price has already doubled & jumped to $19.95.
Damn, I wanted it for 10 bucks. I'll wait for it.
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See edit; the issue outlined in the following paragraph has been remedied:
Well I got mine today, and I have to say, I'm kind of disappointed. It fits the tablet perfectly when closed, but it JUST misses the mark when standing it up. It seems like the lip where the bottom part of the tablet hits, to prevent it from falling over, is around half a millimeter too long, the tablet almost catches, but doesn't quite do it. I think just a little bit more of the tablet needs to get underneath it, and it'll catch. I have some pics that I took; I'll upload them later tonight or early tomorrow (I don't usually post from the mobile app).
That aside: I really like this case. It fits the N7 snugly when closed, the keyboard part works well, and it seems like it would protect the tablet if one should need it. I would be extremely satisfied with this keyboard/protector if only the tablet stood in it. I'll try to contact customer service and let them know the critical design flaw so they can remedy it ASAP.
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OK, never mind the first paragraph. Figured it out. The little rubber strip down in the groove where the tablet sits to stand up wasn't fully glued down so the tablet was sitting higher than it should have been. After pressing the strip down to be flush with the bottom of the groove, the tablet now stands up. I'm happy now. After using it this weekend I'll edit this post with a review after using it a few days.
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Hmm it looks like a nice keyboard but is it stable? Like it looks like a small tap and Itll come off and fall off ...which wouldn't be nice for my Nexus
I ended up getting this Logitech keyboard from Ebay. It doesn't function as a case like the Exact keyboard but it's longer so typing should be more comfortable. Won the auction for $16 including shipping.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlKQJtNjl0E
Mine showed today as well. Very happy for 10 bucks. Works a treat.
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I ended up getting this Logitech keyboard from Ebay. It doesn't function as a case like the Exact keyboard but it's longer so typing should be more comfortable. Won the auction for $16 including shipping.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlKQJtNjl0E
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I heard that this logitech keyboard was incompatible with the new Nexus 7 and gives repeated inputs because of that bluetooth bug.
Hope to hear from you coz I'm considering this keyboard as well.
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I heard that this logitech keyboard was incompatible with the new Nexus 7 and gives repeated inputs because of that bluetooth bug.
Hope to hear from you coz I'm considering this keyboard as well.
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I'll let you know when I get it and try it out.
how much battery does a bluetooth keyboard drain off the tablet?
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how much battery does a bluetooth keyboard drain off the tablet?
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Directly? None.
Indirectly (meaning requiring the Bluetooth antenna be on at all times)? Very little in the grand scheme of things.
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I heard that this logitech keyboard was incompatible with the new Nexus 7 and gives repeated inputs because of that bluetooth bug.
Hope to hear from you coz I'm considering this keyboard as well.
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I received it today and briefly tested it. Didn't experience any repeated inputs.
I really like it so far. Very comfortable to type on and the function keys work well except for the browser key which kind of sucks. I'm wondering if there's any way to map that key to open a 3rd party browser.
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I received it today and briefly tested it. Didn't experience any repeated inputs.
I really like it so far. Very comfortable to type on and the function keys work well except for the browser key which kind of sucks. I'm wondering if there's any way to map that key to open a 3rd party browser.
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Thank you for your input, I might go ahead and buy that
I purchased this keyboard because for $10 why not. The build quality is nice, connecting to bluetooth is simple and it works, it functions well, the rechargeable battery is nice and everything. I especially like that it clips on to the N7 but that's also the 2 issues I have with the keyboard. 1 being it's a bit too small for my comfort and 2 being that the clip right by the space bar makes it difficult to hit the space bar. It's not really the keyboard fault I guess, those 2 things are sacrificed for the convenience of having it clip onto the N7 (though I do have a case already, it makes it easier to be able to carry the KB together with the case, haven't used my N7 outside the house yet however). For what I paid it's great, I wouldn't send it back but it still doesn't make typing that much easier for me. Trust me I'm trying to get better with typing on it, I've typed about those damn quick brown foxes so many times but I just end up making so many typos.
The only other keyboard I was looking at was the $40 Logitech one but it's pretty bulky for a 7 inch tablet (though that's probably the smallest it can get without sacrificing functionality) , it takes 4 batteries and I hear it has issues with the latest Jelly Bean. So whatever, for $10 I'll take what I can get.
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The only other keyboard I was looking at was the $40 Logitech one but it's pretty bulky for a 7 inch tablet (though that's probably the smallest it can get without sacrificing functionality) , it takes 4 batteries and I hear it has issues with the latest Jelly Bean. So whatever, for $10 I'll take what I can get.
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I think you're referring to this Logitech keyboard I posted above.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlKQJtNjl0E
I haven't had any issues with it. I wouldn't necessarily call it bulky but yea, it's nowhere close to as compact as the Exact keyboard. I was willing to sacrifice a little size for typing comfort though. Got it for $16 on an Ebay auction.
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I think you're referring to this Logitech keyboard I posted above.[/url]
I haven't had any issues with it. I wouldn't necessarily call it bulky but yea, it's nowhere close to as compact as the Exact keyboard. I was willing to sacrifice a little size for typing comfort though. Got it for $16 on an Ebay auction.
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Nice, that's a steal at $16 and it looks like it actually functions as a great keyboard. I personally love Logitech products, I haven't seen much negative about that keyboard (aside from the batteries imo, is it 4 AAA? Some reviews said only 2 but some say 4)and I'd probably buy it also if I could find it for around that price. Bulkys not the word so much as not as convenient relative to the Exact.. I originally wrote too big for a 7 inch tablet, carrying it around and everything, though it really needs to be that big for functionality but yea, if you need to actually write some lengthy stuff on the go then it's worth the trade off.
These two keyboards have the same price $29.99 on Amazon, therefore I will focus on appearance and function features. They are both black, glossy, aluminum, and ultrathin. Anker’s dimension is 9.4 x 5.1 x 0.2 inches, Lumsing’s is 10.24 x 5.31 x 0.39 inches. The weight have slim difference, 8 ounces Anker and 7.95 ounces Lumsing.
Both of them have the thickest part on the top. There are the rechargeable lithium batteries. Both work up to 140 hours. Also, same recharging solution through USB cable. However, there is a little bit different. The batteries of Anker is in the top front. It makes that part hidden visually. Therefore, the whole keyboard looks like a very thin board. Meanwhile, Lumsing put it in the top bottom as a stand for the keyboard. It makes the keyboard inclined on horizontal surface. Moreover, Lumsing designed a hidden stand for tablet / phones. It pop out from the top of keyboard.
Furthermore, their keystrokes are similar. Either of them have number pad. Anyways, it is normal for ultrathin keyboard. Function keys are on the top, 3 OS shiftable, bla bla bla. However, there is a tiny difference. Lumsing’s characters are printed with fluorescent materials. Therefore, you can see it in dark environment. Those materials emit soft green yellow light. Quite a sweet design for me as I like the room light out during with a screen.
Overall, they are similar mostly even the price. but Lumsing have pop out stand for tablets and fluorescent keystroke for the same price. Considered a better bargain.
Thanks for posting this review.
Could you post a picture of the Lumsing with the Nexus 7 on it?
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Thanks for posting this review.
Could you post a picture of the Lumsing with the Nexus 7 on it?
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Not to question the integrity of the OP, but he's got one post which seems, ah, pretty invested in one of those two keyboards.
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Not to question the integrity of the OP, but he's got one post which seems, ah, pretty invested in one of those two keyboards.
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And I suddenly noticed that.
I bought the Anker keyboard and it works quite well with my 2013 N7.
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I bought the Anker keyboard and it works quite well with my 2013 N7.
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How portable is it? Isn't it a bit larger than the N7? How are you carrying it around? I've been thinking about a folding keyboard.
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How portable is it? Isn't it a bit larger than the N7? How are you carrying it around? I've been thinking about a folding keyboard.
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It is slightly larger than the N7. I bought a Cosmos neoprene case for it. At 8 oz it's hard to really get any lighter and that was the big reason I bought it to replace my heavy Logitech Bluetooth keyboard. This thing weighs next to nothing.
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It is slightly larger than the N7. I bought a Cosmos neoprene case for it. At 8 oz it's hard to really get any lighter and that was the big reason I bought it to replace my heavy Logitech Bluetooth keyboard. This thing weighs next to nothing.
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Hm. Thanks for the info. I might end up going for this after all-- but the one I'm seeing on Amazon says it's 11oz-- still plenty light for a keyboard (almost exactly what the N7 weighs.) It's also dropped to $20 bucks.
Larrondo said:
How portable is it? Isn't it a bit larger than the N7? How are you carrying it around? I've been thinking about a folding keyboard.
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Larrondo said:
Hm. Thanks for the info. I might end up going for this after all-- but the one I'm seeing on Amazon says it's 11oz-- still plenty light for a keyboard (almost exactly what the N7 weighs.) It's also dropped to $20 bucks.
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You're looking at the larger Anker keyboard - that one is 1.8" longer than the Anker I got:
http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Slim-Wireless-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B00BKW2410/ref=pd_cp_pc_2
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You're looking at the larger Anker keyboard - that one is 1.8" longer than the Anker I got:
http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Slim-Wireless-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B00BKW2410/ref=pd_cp_pc_2
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I see. Very nice. Thanks for pointing me at the right one.
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I see. Very nice. Thanks for pointing me at the right one.
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Glad to help.
On a more general note regarding Bluetooth keyboards, some are not playing well with Android 4.3:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-compatibility-with-many-bluetooth-keyboards/
Also, don't expect full compatibility with those that work. I've tried several different makes and there's always something popping up, usually having to do with particular apps (e.g., use of arrows to scroll doesn't work with some browsers) but also special function keys (like increasing or decreasing brightness) may not work. On the Anker keyboard, the Delete key is purposefully used to toggle the N7's screen on or off (Backspace works as expected). Each one seems to have its quirks.
I can confirm certain issues with the anker keyboard.
While generally working perfectly fine, some keys simply do not what they are intended to, others are not functional at all.
Sometimes i have double keystroke recongnition while fast typing, which can reesult in ssome interresting typping. (errors in last sentence are for showcase only )
What bugs me most is, that i cant press enter in skype to send a message. in fact skype recognizes the keyboard, sets the focus and disables the send button completely. i have to switch off the keyboard or try to get a focus change to get back the ability to klick on send. Seems to be a mixed problem of android an buggy skype though.
Just another option...
I tried the N7 with Apple Wireless Keyboard and Logitech K810 Bluetooth Keyboard. The Apple one have some issue with delayed key.
The K810 seems to works well...so far. And this is in addition to allowing the keyboard to connect up to 3 devices, with button so you can switch easily (F1, F2 and F3).
I am planning to buy one more when it's on sale (was $59.99 on Amazon) and bring it to my office so I can use it with my Win 7 machine, iMac and Nexus 7!
I thought I read somewhere that the Bluetooth keyboard issues happened early in 4.3 but have since been fixed. Does anyone know if that's true or just wishful thinking on my part. If the issues aren't fixed on 4.3, are they fixed on 4.4?
The new S4 is marketed as to use with a keyboard, preferably the original samsung keyboard cover. In multiple reviews I've read you can use this cover in only one position. What I would like to know is if you can flip the keyboard completely over (360 degrees) as I would do intuitively when using it as a drawing block using the S Pen.
Wondering that too, I've pre-ordered so will get the keyboard cover free a few weeks after I get the device, so potentially it'll be unprotected during that time. I'll probably buy a case from Amazon (seen one for around £6) to see me through.
From what I saw in store, yes the keyboard can flip over behind the device.
Though I did find this interesting on the Tab S3 the little 1/3 flap behind the tablet secured to the back side of the device automatically, pretty well to hold it in place if you flipped the keyboard over behind the screen. The S4 did not, and there was a little extra slop in the case because of this. Course it might be the security device holding it down but its just something I noticed.
Well, yes and no. It can but backwards. It would have been nice if it was able to fold back with the tablet's back against the keyboard but it actually flips over so that the keys are at the bottom and the tablet is at the top. I'm unsure if this does damage to the keys but its not optimal.
Silly question but...
why not just use the otg cable, plug in your logitech module, and use your logitech keyboard and mouse? For the rare times I need a keyboard, that's what I do. Then the tablet is still easily used as you always would, flip, landscape, etc.
just a thought.
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Silly question but...
why not just use the otg cable, plug in your logitech module, and use your logitech keyboard and mouse? For the rare times I need a keyboard, that's what I do. Then the tablet is still easily used as you always would, flip, landscape, etc.
just a thought.
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That is a silly question because many folks will use this as a traditional portable tablet as well as an occassional desktop machine. When you are out and about with your expensive tablet, you need a case to protect it from accidents, but this case also needs to be convenient. Leather wallet / folio cases are ideal for this, but (most) obviously don't feature a keyboard. Given how slippery this tablet is, with its all glass rear, I'm guessing that accidents may be relatively frequent!
So the OPs original question is pefectly valid. What is the likely durability of the keyboard when folded right over and sat on the users lap, for example, playing Pokemon on a bus? Perhaps, maybe, the keyboard case is an expensive gimmick and a standard leather wallet case would be a much better option (if such a thing actually exists yet)? The real leather case on my Galaxy NotePro 12.2 has served me extremely well over the years.
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That is a silly question because many folks will use this as a traditional portable tablet as well as an occassional desktop machine. When you are out and about with your expensive tablet, you need a case to protect it from accidents, but this case also needs to be convenient. Leather wallet / folio cases are ideal for this, but obviously don't feature a keyboard. Given how slippery this tablet is, with its all glass rear, I'm guessing that accidents may be relatively frequent!
So the OPs original question is pefectly valid. What is the likely durability of the keyboard when folded right over and sat on the users lap, for example, playing Pokemon on a bus? Perhaps, maybe, the keyboard case is an expensive gimmick and a standard leather wallet case would be a much better option (if such a thing actually exists yet)? The leather case on my Galaxy NotePro 12.2 has served me extremely well over the years.
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Who said the OP question wasn't valid? Who said not to use a case?
I'm merely suggesting an alternative for those of us who don't play "Pokemon on a bus", for example.
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Who said the OP question wasn't valid? Who said not to use a case?
I'm merely suggesting an alternative for those of us who don't play "Pokemon on a bus", for example.
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Personally, I never play Pokemon, however, my daughter does on her commute to work... and the Tab S4 is her tablet Cables and peripherals are totally impractical in this particular usage case. Everyone has different requirements. Anyway, her "free" keyboard case has just been delivered today, so I'll check it out tonight.
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Everyone has different requirements. .
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thank you for making my point.
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thank you for making my point.
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You are welcome.
However, this is an interesting point for discussion, as to how folk plan to make use of their new investment. From what I can work out from my daughter, at home it will be docked into a Cable Matters USB-C hub and used to stream movies over an Ethernet LAN connection, to her HDMI TV, amongst numerous other things. At work, she will use it as a desktop with the keyboard case and a bluetooth mouse. I've already described her commute.
If it were mine, I'd be using it as a passenger navigation device, along with AlpineQuest and a full set of OSGB maps, which is what I currently do with my aging NotePro.
Now that I've received the keyboard case I can confirm that the case can be flipped in such a way that the keyboard faces up, into the rear of the case when using as a traditional tablet. In this mode, the footprint of the tablet extends along a long edge by 38mm, which is due to the way the "fold" works.
Alternatively, it can be flipped with the keyboard facing down, which only extends the footprint by 10mm along the same edge.
First impressions are that it adds a fair bit of weight to the tablet, mainly due to good build quality. The case is pretty solid, but not padded, so it may not be great at absorbing shocks, say from a drop! The keyboard is compact, but has a reasonable feel. Note, that the pen is essential for using the keyboard with DeX as there is no trackpad.
Is it worth the RRP? Err, no, however, as a pre-order "freebe", I've got no grounds to complain.