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[Rumor] Android 4.4 (Kit Kat ) for old devices !

Hello everyone ;
i just read an article stat that old phones with weak memory 512mg didnt get any new updates but this could be changed with new android !
it says that and i copy from it : ' One important feature will be the ability of low memory models to update to newer builds of Android. Low memory handsets made by Huawei, Samsung and ZTE that have 512MB of RAM inside, are at a major disadvantage to today's mid to high-range models that are packed with 2 to 3GB of the stuff. These low memory models usually are not updated to newer builds of Android. That could change with Android 4.4. '
idk but i guess if they did it it will be such a great news for old beloved old devices like my xperia ray !!:fingers-crossed:​
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-4.4-features-include-support-for-wearables-and-improved-performance-for-low-memory-devices_id48896

Unfortunately, not likely that older phones will get it, New but even mid and low-end phones might get it for sure.
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stinky dentist said:
Hello everyone ;
i just read an article stat that old phones with weak memory 512mg didnt get any new updates but this could be changed with new android !
it says that and i copy from it : ' One important feature will be the ability of low memory models to update to newer builds of Android. Low memory handsets made by Huawei, Samsung and ZTE that have 512MB of RAM inside, are at a major disadvantage to today's mid to high-range models that are packed with 2 to 3GB of the stuff. These low memory models usually are not updated to newer builds of Android. That could change with Android 4.4. '
idk but i guess if they did it it will be such a great news for old beloved old devices like my xperia ray !!:fingers-crossed:​
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-4.4-features-include-support-for-wearables-and-improved-performance-for-low-memory-devices_id48896
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I think 4.4 will just run good on low-end devices and it might be easier to port to those devices. But I'd wager quite a lot that Sony isn't going to bother with our phone anymore, 18 months have passed and they have dozens of other devices to support.

No Qualcomm support - no official 4.4 for our devices, get over it. We can only hope to get KitKat beacuse of Letama or Rayman.

yUlekk said:
No Qualcomm support - no official 4.4 for our devices, get over it. We can only hope to get KitKat beacuse of Letama or Rayman.
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Letama doesnt have a XS anymore however ,soon enough i will be taking over letamas 4.3 project and just maybe i may be able to port 4.4 to xperia s. I assume RaymanFX will build 4.4 via CM10 it seems like he always has
also sony has compltely abandoned these old devices, most of the contracts end next year but sony dont care enough to even look in this direction.
they dont even care about the Xperia Z and more, then again cant blame them, they are almost bankrupt again :/
try to keep your hopes up , although xperia S is a orphan we have got some great devs

No KitKat 4.4 for Galaxy Nexus.
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3468085

I don't really think there would be anymore support or anything as such for SXS.. SONY has and completely will abandon SXS.. Already as Envious said SXZ is also old now and will soon be obsolete in another year.. Tech keeps on moving guys, everything gets old.. U just gotta live with it..
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Letama doesnt have a XS anymore however ,soon enough i will be taking over letamas 4.3 project and just maybe i may be able to port 4.4 to xperia s. I assume RaymanFX will build 4.4 via CM10 it seems like he always has
also sony has compltely abandoned these old devices, most of the contracts end next year but sony dont care enough to even look in this direction.
they dont even care about the Xperia Z and more, then again cant blame them, they are almost bankrupt again :/
try to keep your hopes up , although xperia S is a orphan we have got some great devs
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Wow.. That's good to hear.. I thought letama was gonna continue building 4.3.. Good to hear u r gonna takeover his project.. :good:
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No KitKat 4.4 for Galaxy Nexus.
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3468085
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Since Galaxy Nexus even is abandoned, then Why are there rumors in the first place.. Its so confirmed that they themselves have said its OLD and crossed 18 months.. So i guess old in their words mean basic low end budget devices.. Its like in "Pink Panther 2" where the HERO does both Good Cop Bad Cop Routine all by himself.. :silly: And still we gotta accept it..!!! Don't get any hopes up YET guys..

I dont think any old device will get 4.4 unless its a part of some new licence
I guess its good for old devices to run newer android , 4.3 is extremely smooth compared to 4.2 and 4.1 (on xs)
Speaking of which
The first thing im trying to fix with letamas 4.3 build is the HDMI and the graphics crashes and errors
Just waiting for source code
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Envious_Data said:
Letama doesnt have a XS anymore however ,soon enough i will be taking over letamas 4.3 project and just maybe i may be able to port 4.4 to xperia s. I assume RaymanFX will build 4.4 via CM10 it seems like he always has
also sony has compltely abandoned these old devices, most of the contracts end next year but sony dont care enough to even look in this direction.
they dont even care about the Xperia Z and more, then again cant blame them, they are almost bankrupt again :/
try to keep your hopes up , although xperia S is a orphan we have got some great devs
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@Envious_Data
Lol almost bankrupt ??
No way and totally nonsense about that, they maked alot money with tv's/phones/laptops/ps3's etc like millions in 2012/13
Read better the news ;(
About kitkat 4.4, we shall see because we must also wait a year or longer on JB !!
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Pandemic said:
@Envious_Data
Lol almost bankrupt ??
No way and totally nonsense about that, they maked alot money with tv's/phones/laptops/ps3's etc like millions in 2012/13
Read better the news ;(
About kitkat 4.4, we shall see because we must also wait a year or longer on JB !!
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realy maybe i need to research more often
Xperia s was supose to get 4.2.2 , why i dony think any old xperia is going to be updated by sony
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i want kitkat its will make my xperia s faster,smoother,effecient and best of all battery life i want it.can anybody get me a kitkat bar :laugh:

Source code released
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?hl=en#!topic/android-building/JVLaFRoJxFk
Someone please tag raymanfx.. I can't do it as I am on tapatalk app.
Kitkat is the way to go.. may be the best thing that can happen to xperia s and above all it features the much hyped screen recording feature out of the box as displayed by koush for CM.

Source code released
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?hl=en#!topic/android-building/JVLaFRoJxFk
Someone please tag raymanfx.. I can't do it as I am on tapatalk app.
Kitkat is the way to go.. may be the best thing that can happen to xperia s and above all it features the much hyped screen recording feature out of the box as displayed by koush for CM.
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@RaymanFX This is the source to 4.4 already.. I hope this helps.. Thanks to @fundoozzz.. :good:

Not gonna happen guys. Xperia S is pretty much EOL. I will be getting my new phone tomorrow. So I'm ready to leave this place

4.4 Will not be given by sony as the phone is now classed as "discontinued" and is a archived sony phone. I don't know if the end of support for updates has been done yet if not they can update it but very unwilling because they have lots of newer phones.
Most likely a developer will port it over

The only thing that I'm concerned of is, will it run smoother than other ported JB ROMs.

lewis021 said:
The only thing that I'm concerned of is, will it run smoother than other ported JB ROMs.
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It definitely should as according to google it will run smooth on devices with mere 512mb of RAM.
The major challenges is hacking the code for our soc as it has been discontinued by arm too..

If Google is not upgrading the Galaxy Nexus, why are you hoping Sony will not do the same?
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We'll know more next week.
This is from Sony Xperia News Tweet:
re. #Android @kitkat, we’re excited – next week our news on: 4.3, 4.4; products & more... #SonyXperia
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lewis021 said:
The only thing that I'm concerned of is, will it run smoother than other ported JB ROMs.
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4.3 is smooth as heaven no joke
So 4.4 is going to be a load better
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Your thoughts for future GNEX Development

Even though Galaxy Nexus is no more officialy supported by Google and stuck at Android 4.3, KitKat Roms emerged quickly and evolve rapidly - thanks to our crazy devs!!! :victory: So how you all handling this? Still at 4.3... already jumped to a 4.4 rom?
I know it took a long way for 4.3 roms to reach that point where everything works near perfect and I think that Cataclysm or SlimBean are such examples. So, some will prefer the comfort of this instead of jumping into the unknown and start dealing with bugs and the trial and error procedure???
As I write this Android 4.4.2 is rolling to newer Nexus devices, my new Nexus 7 already running this and something tells me, since none of the factory images for 4.4.1 and 4.4.2 are officialy on google's page, that another update maybe coming soon. Since our phone is not officialy supported, devs will strugle merging new code to their sources and adapting it for gnex. How do you see this evolving?
To end this, it's been 2 years after the release of GNEX and our forum still is in the top 5 list. Quite impressive if you ask me. Tell that to Google... Galaxy Nexus is a legendary phone even though it's not the sharpest out there. And I am sure its "endurance" over time, will make it even more legendary!
PS: Working on a cool Zooper Skin. Will let u know when it's out!

It will continue, but the gnex population will gradually move on. The new incomers will not likely join at the rate the existing users leave to upgrade to a new device.
If it's any indication, Nexus One and Nexus S development are still continuing and they are older than the Galaxy Nexus. At some point when newer android versions get too resource intensive (KK tried to improve the memory management) then we will start seeing users preferring to stick with an older version.

I will continue with my Galaxy nexus and I'm still very happy with it especially so because of the talented developers here at XDA. I'm currently using the 4.4 KK rom : [ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 11 for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus with gapps 20131207. This ROM is now my daily driver and I won't be going back to 4.3 :good:
Thanks for this post, I'll subscribe!

myself, I've been thinking of sticking with Cataclysm for a while. But can I ask those who already use a 4.4 rom if they noticed any signifcant improvement on battery life or multitasking?

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itasoulas said:
Even though Galaxy Nexus is no more officialy supported by Google and stuck at Android 4.3, KitKat Roms emerged quickly and evolve rapidly - thanks to our crazy devs!!! :victory: So how you all handling this? Still at 4.3... already jumped to a 4.4 rom?
I know it took a long way for 4.3 roms to reach that point where everything works near perfect and I think that Cataclysm or SlimBean are such examples. So, some will prefer the comfort of this instead of jumping into the unknown and start dealing with bugs and the trial and error procedure???
As I write this Android 4.4.2 is rolling to newer Nexus devices, my new Nexus 7 already running this and something tells me, since none of the factory images for 4.4.1 and 4.4.2 are officialy on google's page, that another update maybe coming soon. Since our phone is not officialy supported, devs will strugle merging new code to their sources and adapting it for gnex. How do you see this evolving?
To end this, it's been 2 years after the release of GNEX and our forum still is in the top 5 list. Quite impressive if you ask me. Tell that to Google... Galaxy Nexus is a legendary phone even though it's not the sharpest out there. And I am sure its "endurance" over time, will make it even more legendary!
PS: Working on a cool Zooper Skin. Will let u know when it's out!
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I'm not one to sit by idly and wait for confirmation of a stable new Android version. When 4.4 was released I flashed it right away. Whats the fun in not "jumping into the unknown"?
I dont think small updates are that hard for developers to merge into our current builds. We are already on 4.4.1 and I'm sure that 4.4.2 will be on our devices soon as well.
KitKat has been running great on my device. I dont know of any issues we have now that havent been fixed yet.

jsgraphicart said:
I'm not one to sit by idly and wait for confirmation of a stable new Android version. Wn 4.4 was released I flashed it right away. Whats the fun in not "jumping into the unknown"?
I dont think small updates are that hard for developers to merge into our current builds. We are already on 4.4.1 and I'm sure that 4.4.2 will be on our devices soon as well.
KitKat has been running great on my device. I dont know of any issues we have now that havent been fixed yet.
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Well...my GPS could be better. I'm seeing at best 30ft accuracy with about 8 satellites locked in with pretty low SNR values.

Im still on 4.3, Slimbean. Waiting for Slimkat to evolve just a litle bit more :good:

alpha-niner64 said:
Well...my GPS could be better. I'm seeing at best 30ft accuracy with about 8 satellites locked in with pretty low SNR values.
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I haven't had any issues with GPS. It pinpoints pretty fast for me.
And by the way, cyanogenmod just updated us to 4.4.2.

I will be continuing to use my Galaxy Nexus until the 'Nexus 6', it can totally hold up to most of the competition. Currently using the last 4.4.1 Galaxy Nexus Maguro CM11 ROM with ASKP/Franco/Mpokang/Fancy/Stock kernel.

[Q] Which one is the latest Android generation with working FM radio?

Hello, guys!
Can somebody please tell me, which one is the latest Android generation with working FM radio for Arc?
Is it CM9 or CM10 and with which radio apk is FM radio working? Spirit FM or some other app?
Is any chance to have working FM radio in Android KK?
Thanks for the info in advance!

Since there is no answer on my first question, let's ask you another way - is there any chance to compile a fully working Kit Kat ROM with 2.6 kernel, with FM radio working?

Upto 4.1.2 almost every rom has radio working with 2.6 kernel, no fm radio with 3.++ kernel

KK will not work on 2.6xx kernel, you will need kernel 3.xx which does not have FM radio due to no driver support from the chipset manufacturer.
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popthosegaskets said:
KK will not work on 2.6xx kernel, you will need kernel 3.xx which does not have FM radio due to no driver support from the chipset manufacturer.
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That's pretty poor to read and to know. A friend of mine, owner of the Samsung Galaxy S3 just got an official update to Jelly bean, expecting a new one to Kit Kat, and Sony leaves their flagman phone's users without support and with unofficial releases from CM only. Poor, Sony, poor experience from you!

novicebg said:
That's pretty poor to read and to know. A friend of mine, owner of the Samsung Galaxy S3 just got an official update to Jelly bean, expecting a new one to Kit Kat, and Sony leaves their flagman phone's users without support and with unofficial releases from CM only. Poor, Sony, poor experience from you!
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It's not fair to compare an arc and a s3...
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novicebg said:
That's pretty poor to read and to know. A friend of mine, owner of the Samsung Galaxy S3 just got an official update to Jelly bean, expecting a new one to Kit Kat, and Sony leaves their flagman phone's users without support and with unofficial releases from CM only. Poor, Sony, poor experience from you!
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I don't trust Samsung when it comes to software, their ROMs have always been buggy and full of problems.
You can't blame Sony as well, the update window is well past the 18 month period since the phone's release. They may have the obligation to fix bugs, but not the obligation to update the phone to a newer Android version.
That's the main problem with most of the users here; they expect the manufacturer to update the phone to the latest version of the OS, which is not 100% feasible due to hardware restrictions and some other PRBS by the company. Sometimes having an old but more stable ROM is more beneficial long term. I have been using a custom 4.2.2 ROM for almost a year and I find it good and stable enough for daily use. There's no rush to update to KK and face more problems with the OS since older ROMs are able to meet the demands of the end user.
The only issue with Sony is that I would have liked them to release the sources publicly so it can save the developers time and effort to develop custom ROMs.
Just my 2 cents on the issue.
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So what about that:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/2012/03/07/fm-radio-module-released-as-open-source-and-sensor-hal-updated/
it was quoted in another topic but no one answered whether exactly this are the drivers needed?

Already discussed here:
https://github.com/M66B/cm-xtended/issues/1
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with so many people creating roms, there will not be a soul here that applies to get the FM radio to work, sure it was well compensated! Greetings to all!
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popthosegaskets said:
I don't trust Samsung when it comes to software, their ROMs have always been buggy and full of problems.
You can't blame Sony as well, the update window is well past the 18 month period since the phone's release. They may have the obligation to fix bugs, but not the obligation to update the phone to a newer Android version.
That's the main problem with most of the users here; they expect the manufacturer to update the phone to the latest version of the OS, which is not 100% feasible due to hardware restrictions and some other PRBS by the company. Sometimes having an old but more stable ROM is more beneficial long term. I have been using a custom 4.2.2 ROM for almost a year and I find it good and stable enough for daily use. There's no rush to update to KK and face more problems with the OS since older ROMs are able to meet the demands of the end user.
The only issue with Sony is that I would have liked them to release the sources publicly so it can save the developers time and effort to develop custom ROMs.
Just my 2 cents on the issue.
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I'm on KitKat already and it's actually not half-bad, aside from a few random glitches here and there. Still too fresh to be perfect I guess.
I think that Arc's hardware is the main reason for the lack of further official upgrades. It'd take too much work to get it to work perfectly with all of Sony's additional apps and branding required to make it flashy enough for an official rom, if it would even be possible at all. Short on ram as well as internal memory as it is, I'm honestly amazed what developers are managing to port to our beloved phone.

Find 7 and questions about Oppo phones?

why on earth did they not launch this phone with Kitkat?
anyway I have a question regarding Oppo's software support, is it good? will they quickly update Find 7 to Kitkat? I have heard that Oppo's software are rather somewhat unreliable, is it true?
about Color OS, is it good? is it full of bloatwares or not? how deep is the customization?
will Find 7 have official Cyanogenmod support? how about other custom ROMs?
thanks for answering!

Oppo listen very much to their user base and they will update it to KitKat. You can flash other roms to Oppo using their stock recovery, they're partnered with CyanogenMod so Cm roms should run well on their devices.
As for other custom roms, it depended on if the Dev want to develop for it or not, if you purchase a Find 7 for them, they probably will. Hint: Take a look at the Find 5 and N1 development section.
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The oppo stock recovery flashes CM. OPPO are developer friendly,they even got OMNI Mediatek sources for the R819 (not an easy feat Mediatek are NOT willing)
They did not launch with kitkat because they are still adding features (ColorOS 2.0). They do that. If you are concerned about latest android version get on a custom rom like CM from the start,because OPPO don't move up the Android version until the previous ROM is stable enough to discontinue. The ROM itself is quite nice for a manufacturer skin,not bloated at all,and has some nice features built in you really miss if you go custom,but some people just hate the colorfulness so to each their own.

Allanitomwesh said:
The oppo stock recovery flashes CM. OPPO are developer friendly,they even got OMNI Mediatek sources for the R819 (not an easy feat Mediatek are NOT willing)
They did not launch with kitkat because they are still adding features (ColorOS 2.0). They do that. If you are concerned about latest android version get on a custom rom like CM from the start,because OPPO don't move up the Android version until the previous ROM is stable enough to discontinue. The ROM itself is quite nice for a manufacturer skin,not bloated at all,and has some nice features built in you really miss if you go custom,but some people just hate the colorfulness so to each their own.
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Did you say I can just use CM from the start even without proper official version? how? which version?

nap007 said:
Did you say I can just use CM from the start even without proper official version? how? which version?
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CM will probably have builds out within a month of release...

My concern with running CM on this phone is, will it lose features? Like the 50MP super zoom mode?

Yes you'll most likely lose SuperZoom and Maxxaudio with any AOSP ROM. You'd need stock based for that.

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Yes you'll most likely lose SuperZoom and Maxxaudio with any AOSP ROM. You'd need stock based for that.
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what? but didn't n1 retain it's features with cyanogen?
and can't you just install specific phones apps to get it's features?

Yes, because CM built the phone with OPPO,far as I know,they're making the OnePlus One ATM. So yeah, it'll be like on Find 5 most likely.

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CM will probably have builds out within a month of release...
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I haven't heard any news regarding a Cyngn partnership for the Find 7.
Remember, after last year's events, when talking about CM, there are really two different entities which are semi-connected:
CM - the original CyanogenMod open source software project. The Find5 was originally maintained by community members who were solely involved on this side of things. All of that team left for Omni as a result of the Focal relicensing fiasco (This is why the Find5 never saw official CM10.2)
Cyanogen Inc - Referred to from here on in this post as "Cyngn" - The corporate entity created by some of the Cyanogenmod leads
Cyngn was partnered with Oppo for the N1 so that Cyngn could gain experience with taking a device through GMS (Google Apps) certification. There has been little to no CM community involvement with the N1 - it's a purely Cyngn affair. All community efforts on the device are focused on other projects (Oppo sent preproduction N1s to people involved with CodefireXperiment, Omni, Paranoid Android, and a few others)
Cyngn is currently partnered with OnePlus to focus on their launch device. They aren't even putting much effort into the N1 now if you read any of the user reviews. (Both official 10.2 updates are full of bugs, and CM11 has had broken location services for two months now with not a single word from the development team.)
So the support of the Find7 by CyanogenMod is unknown and indeterminate. It will likely involve community effort if it happens, but all "community" contributors with current Oppo devices are working on other projects. Omni support is HIGHLY likely, I would not be surprised if, like the Find5 and N1, it proves to be one of Omni's best supported devices. CodefireXperiment and PA support are also highly likely (Actually I'd say pretty much guaranteed in the case of CFX, Oppo and Anders get along as well as the Omni team gets along with Oppo). (While PA usually focuses on Nexus devices, there usually have been exceptions for Oppos due to Oppo providing excellent support to Aaron from PA.)

Its the best phone out without a doubt right now .. Might even beat all new HTC one .. It's a no compromise phone .. Except speakers idk if they are good or bad .. Also you can choose your own software oppo skin or cm(later) and paranoidandroid. I'm very impressed .

returning to the color os talk, do you think it will be a long time before oppo move to kitkat based color os?
and as I asked before, is it true regarding color os instability and incompatibility with common android apps?
and I'm glad if Paranoid Android will indeed come to Find 7!

nap007 said:
returning to the color os talk, do you think it will be a long time before oppo move to kitkat based color os?
and as I asked before, is it true regarding color os instability and incompatibility with common android apps?
and I'm glad if Paranoid Android will indeed come to Find 7!
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About the apps yeah,there was a thing about Lightflow not working,but its usually a one app thing,especially if it works by identifying the phone,mostly coz OPPO is so unique. As a plus ANY Chinese app works without a hitch when they give other manufacturers incompatibility issues
Omni is confirmed,Maxwen is getting a Find 7.
Unless i'm wrong ColorOS 2.0 should be kitkat.

CHlCKEN said:
Its the best phone out without a doubt right now .. Might even beat all new HTC one .. It's a no compromise phone .. Except speakers idk if they are good or bad .. Also you can choose your own software oppo skin or cm(later) and paranoidandroid. I'm very impressed .
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Well I would consider the battery a moderate compromise. 3k mah is not really sufficient for a 5.5" 2k screen. I was really hoping for 3500mah or more.
I'm wondering how the screen compares to the Note 3 OLED screen. The Note 3 has an extra .02", extra 200mah, but Samsungs OLED's aren't as efficient as SLCD's.
The batt life is the defining factor here for me and I would assume a great many others. If HTC can deliver on this, they'll take a good few percent of the upgrade market. Damn Sony for not bringing their Z2 to the US. It would dominate the tech-savvy market completely.

last time I heard the screen use new low power tech so let's wait for a review first before calling the battery is a flop.

mhl, hdmi?
Does anyone know of any video output port on this device such as HDMI or MHL or any other?

Wyzco said:
Does anyone know of any video output port on this device such as HDMI or MHL or any other?
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likely not but during the unveiling they used a find 7 to output audio using huge cable, maybe it was just a huge stereo cable though.

I heard the lower-end version Oppo Find 7a is better than Oppo Find 7 in many sectors, like screen, performance, etc. I really hope that Oppo equips this phone with that brilliant touch-less voice command just like on Moto X. It's gonna be really awesome for this phone. In fact, i think all of the new phones in 2014 should also have this feature. I mean, the real touch-less voice control when the phone is still locked. Unlike Google Nexus 5's "Ok Google" voice control that can only be used when the phone has been unlocked.

nap007 said:
likely not but during the unveiling they used a find 7 to output audio using huge cable, maybe it was just a huge stereo cable though.
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Really??? You're telling me about Audio output?
Every phone has that! Smh

nap007 said:
likely not but during the unveiling they used a find 7 to output audio using huge cable, maybe it was just a huge stereo cable though.
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Supports a bunch of wireless outputs
DLNA and Miracast off the top of my head,and Wifi Display

Lost hope :/

SO guys I've finally LOST HOPE on my XPERIA S Lt26i..
I want to know are there any else people who've also LOST HOPE of a STABLE ROM for it ?

No......
U can upgrade if u wish....
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I've lost hope - at the time I bought this phone I could have got a SP for the same price. I regret this phone.
However, I don't really care about android updates now. The 12mp sensor is quite good on this phone.
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Saurav16 said:
SO guys I've finally LOST HOPE on my XPERIA S Lt26i..
I want to know are there any else people who've also LOST HOPE of a STABLE ROM for it ?
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I hate to say it but yes

There are two developers working on porting z2 firmware to our phone so I'm gonna say no... I didn't lose hope... Plus our phone is doing better than many phones which announced at the same time
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Well I've literally tried every single ROM that came by...
Most of them were so good...
But then either developer left the project or got a new phone or just stopped building for this phone... In last 2 years (quite literally the longest time I've kept a phone) I've totally enjoyed using this phone but I think it's time to move on...
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Saurav16 said:
Well I've literally tried every single ROM that came by...
Most of them were so good...
But then either developer left the project or got a new phone or just stopped building for this phone... In last 2 years (quite literally the longest time I've kept a phone) I've totally enjoyed using this phone but I think it's time to move on...
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Trinity Ultimate Rom? That was a good Rom until he abandoned it and deleted the files of his server.
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It´s getting old and it shows now.. Not top quality either, so many annoying little things, so yes!

Didn't lost hope
Still, with Sony JB (rooted), the best phone I ever had.
It's getting old as every phone does, so where's the problem. If you like to have more support on firmware you should have bought a Google phone. Didn't know that, I did at the time a bought my Sony.

I didn't expect more from a 2012 phone.. comparing to other phones released that year our Nozomi devices are quite good, we just didn't receive proper support from neither Qualcomm (abandoned our Scorpion CPUs) and Sony (1 year to upgrade to Jelly Bean with more bugs than anything and stoped support using the lack of drivers excuse).. Today we have the same as almost every mid-range phone, but with a good camera.
720p display, 12.1MPx Camera, 1750mAh Battery, dedicated camera button and the best of sony: we can use ports from newer xperia devices. I also have a Samsung Galaxy S II i9100 and I can say that our Xperia S is way superior. In the SGS2 Android Development section there are almost no ports from newer Galaxy devices, only AOSP/CM ROMs. The ROMs that claims to have SGS4/SGS5 features are mostly lies and I can confirm that. I flashed some of those ROMs and the features they "ported" are just copies they made themselfs, not the actual port itself. I don't know if they don't port it because Touchwiz is crap or because they can't do it... but after all a SGS2 won't run SGS5 apks, but a Xperia S easily runs Xperia Z2 apks.

Lunatiic said:
I didn't expect more from a 2012 phone.. comparing to other phones released that year our Nozomi devices are quite good, we just didn't receive proper support from neither Qualcomm (abandoned our Scorpion CPUs) and Sony (1 year to upgrade to Jelly Bean with more bugs than anything and stoped support using the lack of drivers excuse).. Today we have the same as almost every mid-range phone, but with a good camera.
720p display, 12.1MPx Camera, 1750mAh Battery, dedicated camera button and the best of sony: we can use ports from newer xperia devices. I also have a Samsung Galaxy S II i9100 and I can say that our Xperia S is way superior. In the SGS2 Android Development section there are almost no ports from newer Galaxy devices, only AOSP/CM ROMs. The ROMs that claims to have SGS4/SGS5 features are mostly lies and I can confirm that. I flashed some of those ROMs and the features they "ported" are just copies they made themselfs, not the actual port itself. I don't know if they don't port it because Touchwiz is crap or because they can't do it... but after all a SGS2 won't run SGS5 apks, but a Xperia S easily runs Xperia Z2 apks.
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can you give me a link for your kernel TX-Core Ultimate Kernel 5.9

If you just buy it recently and with the standar price i bought 2 year ago, then that's a hope to lost
I mean i stick with my Xperia S and still think it one of the best around, and if you buy it couple years ago then why lost hope? Just need a stable rom for calling and play some good game? it's still work perfectly
I's just recently start to using rom cook and the experience is more amazing so why to compare it to the new phone and lost hope ?
Just move on if you want, if you want hard enough you will find a way to get out of the *lost hope* phone :silly:

No I'm not. Try the OpenSEMC-U ROM. It's fast like hell, and stable enough for daily use. But this is the last stable and fast ROM after the offical. Our's phones has got an old SoC (Snapdragon S3). The Qualcomm has stopped developing drivers for this SoC early. I just call this SoC "Blacksheep". It has so much power inside, but without good drivers...

Szatyor said:
No I'm not. Try the OpenSEMC-U ROM. It's fast like hell, and stable enough for daily use. But this is the last stable and fast ROM after the offical. Our's phones has got an old SoC (Snapdragon S3). The Qualcomm has stopped developing drivers for this SoC early. I just call this SoC "Blacksheep". It has so much power inside, but without good drivers...
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yes i am using that only for quite some time now.... but now i am thinking of flashing the stock rom now and selling it though that would be hard for me as i was totally in love with this phone....

XDA_h3n said:
Trinity Ultimate Rom? That was a good Rom until he abandoned it and deleted the files of his server.
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ya that was a good rom from a good developer...

Sorry to ask but does this thread serve any purpose?
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