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I have two Android devices, an AT&T Note II and a Nexus 7, and I'd like to get them running identical ROMs at some point. I'm just not the type of person that wants to learn multiple ways of doing the same thing. I wish somehow Android could have been developed in a way that every device was sold with the same OS, perhaps with some vendor specific apps that can be removed. But here we are.
I don't need any of the Samsung apps and am fine using Papyrus or other Memo apps to get the pen functionality (writing notes is the only thing I do with the pen).
What are good options to look into? I'll install on the Nexus 7 first and try it for a while before rooting the Note II. I'm a bit more nervous with the Note II as it is my phone, so it makes more sense to figure out what I want on the Nexus 7 first.
AOSP based ROMs that seem likely to land on the Note II (and I presume are all available for the Nexus 7) that I know of are:
CyanogenMod
AOKP
Paranoid Android
Any other suggestions?
Thanks, Dara
Pretty much all the aosp roms that are available for the note 2 right now are available for the nexus 7 too. I also have both but like variety to try other things. Paranoid would be best on the nexus 7 in my opinion.
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dara.parsavand said:
I have two Android devices, an AT&T Note II and a Nexus 7, and I'd like to get them running identical ROMs at some point. I'm just not the type of person that wants to learn multiple ways of doing the same thing. I wish somehow Android could have been developed in a way that every device was sold with the same OS, perhaps with some vendor specific apps that can be removed. But here we are.
I don't need any of the Samsung apps and am fine using Papyrus or other Memo apps to get the pen functionality (writing notes is the only thing I do with the pen).
What are good options to look into? I'll install on the Nexus 7 first and try it for a while before rooting the Note II. I'm a bit more nervous with the Note II as it is my phone, so it makes more sense to figure out what I want on the Nexus 7 first.
AOSP based ROMs that seem likely to land on the Note II (and I presume are all available for the Nexus 7) that I know of are:
CyanogenMod
AOKP
Paranoid Android
Any other suggestions?
Thanks, Dara
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ROOT-BOX (its AOKP+CM+PA) personally i like all the options and for now its running smoother than b3 AOKP for note 2.
Hi guys, sorry if this has already been asked, but I have searched, and searched, and searched for the answer to no avail.....
Does the Note 8 run tablet apps or phone apps? - mainly interested in document editing for revision and general notes etc. that is, is the note 8 a big Note 2/3 or a little Note 10.1
Reason I'm asking is I'm trying to decide between 2014 10.1 and, to me, the more useful note 8 (portability is a big thing), I'm heavily invested in android phone apps and like the functionality but need a bit more productivity potential - Note 2 is just too small for my uses. The 10.1 2014 looks perfect for what I need - other than the size, if the note 8 is close, software wise, that would be the perfect device for me. Screen res doesn't really matter too much as I'm fairly happy with the low res ipad2 and both Are better!
I've got a Note 2 and use it in preference to my ipad 2 for note taking But I'm a bit fed up with the fact that in S-Note, when exported, the font has to be really big (so that you can read it on the note 2). Most of my reading is done on the ipad (size does matter sometimes) but that is all, so I tend to write on Note 2 and export for reading (revision) to an app called Notability (which I dearly wish would come to android). I think, correct me if I'm wrong, I'll be able to write smaller relative to the page on either the note 8 or 10.1, and hence exports will be better proportioned
Ultimately, I'm looking to dump the ipad for one device just having difficulty deciding which (and learn to give up notability and clash of clans lol)
Looking forward to the day that samsung release a program that allows you to properly sync s-note to PC as well - very surprised this hasn't happened yet!
Thanks for your time, if this IS a repeated question, direction to an answer. The question is are the apps tablet or phone, the rest is just a bit of background so you know why I'm asking, sorry if I waffle
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Hi guys, sorry if this has already been asked, but I have searched, and searched, and searched for the answer to no avail.....
Does the Note 8 run tablet apps or phone apps? - mainly interested in document editing for revision and general notes etc. that is, is the note 8 a big Note 2/3 or a little Note 10.1
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It's a big phone
EmergencyMedic said:
Hi guys, sorry if this has already been asked, but I have searched, and searched, and searched for the answer to no avail.....
Does the Note 8 run tablet apps or phone apps? - mainly interested in document editing for revision and general notes etc. that is, is the note 8 a big Note 2/3 or a little Note 10.1
Reason I'm asking is I'm trying to decide between 2014 10.1 and, to me, the more useful note 8 (portability is a big thing), I'm heavily invested in android phone apps and like the functionality but need a bit more productivity potential - Note 2 is just too small for my uses. The 10.1 2014 looks perfect for what I need - other than the size, if the note 8 is close, software wise, that would be the perfect device for me. Screen res doesn't really matter too much as I'm fairly happy with the low res ipad2 and both Are better!
I've got a Note 2 and use it in preference to my ipad 2 for note taking But I'm a bit fed up with the fact that in S-Note, when exported, the font has to be really big (so that you can read it on the note 2). Most of my reading is done on the ipad (size does matter sometimes) but that is all, so I tend to write on Note 2 and export for reading (revision) to an app called Notability (which I dearly wish would come to android). I think, correct me if I'm wrong, I'll be able to write smaller relative to the page on either the note 8 or 10.1, and hence exports will be better proportioned
Ultimately, I'm looking to dump the ipad for one device just having difficulty deciding which (and learn to give up notability and clash of clans lol)
Looking forward to the day that samsung release a program that allows you to properly sync s-note to PC as well - very surprised this hasn't happened yet!
Thanks for your time, if this IS a repeated question, direction to an answer. The question is are the apps tablet or phone, the rest is just a bit of background so you know why I'm asking, sorry if I waffle
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The Note 8.0 with 3G or LTE can be used as a phone without any trouble, as long as you dont mind looking like a strange person with a 8 inch phone to your ear (or just use a headset ). It does not have a tablet UI, since the notificationbar comes down from the top, not the lower right corner.
As for the S-Note parts, i write in handwriting on the Note 8.0 and when i had the ported S-Note for my S3 i had no trouble reading the notes on that screen, even tho its smaller than the Note II with the same resolution.
I say dump the iPad for notes and such, and keep playing the games that are there, cuz there are some nice ones, like Clash of Clans
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The Note 8.0 with 3G or LTE can be used as a phone without any trouble, as long as you dont mind looking like a strange person with a 8 inch phone to your ear (or just use a headset ). It does not have a tablet UI, since the notificationbar comes down from the top, not the lower right corner.
As for the S-Note parts, i write in handwriting on the Note 8.0 and when i had the ported S-Note for my S3 i had no trouble reading the notes on that screen, even tho its smaller than the Note II with the same resolution.
I say dump the iPad for notes and such, and keep playing the games that are there, cuz there are some nice ones, like Clash of Clans
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Yeah, at native size the s-note files are fine. Unfortunately most of my notes were originally in iPad Natability format - these can be exported as PDF but need to zoom to read - a right royal pain in the ... Good to know 8 has better result
Wasn't going to use 8 as a phone, got note II for that, but good to know it uses the phone apps - all I want really is a bigger note II as it works well for me. Time to squirrel away a little pennies (and persuade the better half she really wants an ipad 2 lol)
An apology in advance - just seen post saying don't post questions in this section - SORRY, my bad
Lesson learned, won't happen again
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The Note 8.0 with 3G or LTE can be used as a phone without any trouble, as long as you dont mind looking like a strange person with a 8 inch phone to your ear (or just use a headset ).
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there's a bluetooth pen for the galaxy note 10.1 that could be used with this device also. it acts as an s-pen and a bluetooth phone receiver.
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there's a bluetooth pen for the galaxy note 10.1 that could be used with this device also. it acts as an s-pen and a bluetooth phone receiver.
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Nice, could that not be used with the other notes too?
i'd say yes since it just uses bluetooth to connect.
Its working as both. Phone and tablet. As some of my tablet only apps like sketch tablet edition can be use in note 8.0
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Its working as both. Phone and tablet. As some of my tablet only apps like sketch tablet edition can be use in note 8.0
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Interesting, wonder what other "tablet format" apps work on 8 (without root)
I'm not an expert but I think the Note 8 works fine as both phone and tablet.
I will get a phone SIM in a few days and see how it works. I have had a data only and this is fine.
Notifications coming from top keeps the eco system right with our phones. Actually I like it better on the top.
Whatever programs that I used on my ThinkPad Tablet seem to work fine on the Note.
I do email, read (Kindle), movies and have just installed Documents to Go which is my big productivity suite.
The OCR is very good and much faster for me that "typing" on the tablet.
I think the Note 8 is a winner though 32/64 GB RAM should have been stock.
I'm assuming you live in the US. There are different versions of the Note 8, some have built in telephony. The N5100 is basically an 8 inch smartphone. Its not carrier supported but works on T-mobile and ATT HSPA network. The SCH i467 is sold by ATT and works on their LTE network. It has the telephony capabilities removed, phone calling can only be done using VoIP. There are other models of the Note 8, but these two are the best choices for the US.
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I'm assuming you live in the US. There are different versions of the Note 8, some have built in telephony. The N5100 is basically an 8 inch smartphone. Its not carrier supported but works on T-mobile and ATT HSPA network. The SCH i467 is sold by ATT and works on their LTE network. It has the telephony capabilities removed, phone calling can only be done using VoIP. There are other models of the Note 8, but these two are the best choices for the US.
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I live in Israel and I bought my Note8 in Germany.
I expect it to work as a phe too.
It's a tablet
Mine is both. LTE for fast data and full telephony here in Oz.
Galaxy Note 8.0 Xposed Build JDQ39.N5120XXCMG7 / Baseband N5120XXBMD9 / Kernel CivZ-SpherEngine-Rev1.2 on Telstra LTE
Because the Note 8 has the button in portrait mode apps seem to display more like a phone.
I had the same question recently, and this is what I've discovered.
Android basically has 3 types of interfaces.
There is the phone interface, the small tablet interface, and the full tablet interface.
If you look at the Nexus 4, 7, and 10, you can see the differences. The Nexus 7 interface is kind of a blend between the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 10. There are some features and programs that look like the phone interface, and other features and programs that use the full tablet interface.
As an 8 inch tablet, the Galaxy Note 8.0 uses the "small tablet" interface that the Nexus 7 does.
Hey guys, I currently have a MacBook Air 11, and I am looking for a tablet that I can use for when I don't wanna pull out my Macbook.
I am trying to spend less than $300. So I can get a refurbished Tab 3 10.1 for $225. However I can also get the first Galaxy Note 10.1(first edition) for $250.
I also can get an iPad 3rd gen for about $275.
So I am a bit conflicted. I just want something cheap that I can browse the internet on, play a few games, and use SmartGlass for my XboxOne
If look around get a nexus 10 for under 300 or nexus 7, if not just go with refurbished one
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If look around get a nexus 10 for under 300 or nexus 7, if not just go with refurbished one
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Would the Nexus 10 be better than the Galaxy Tab 3 10.1?
Depends what your users are going to be. Being you have a Mac, I say go with iPad (as much as I hate saying that). You already have apple asps and usernames that would make it easier for you.
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NJ_RAMS_FAN said:
Depends what your users are going to be. Being you have a Mac, I say go with iPad (as much as I hate saying that). You already have apple asps and usernames that would make it easier for you.
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Well I do have a Macbook, and an iPhone 5. But I am trying to get out of the apple ecosystem.
I'm going to get an android phone when my upgrade is up.
Basically my uses are going to be: Using while I'm in bed, on the couch to mainly surf the web, email, play a few games here and there, and use for SmartGlass for my Xbox. If it's anything more than that, I'll just use my Macbook.
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Well I do have a Macbook, and an iPhone 5. But I am trying to get out of the apple ecosystem.
I'm going to get an android phone when my upgrade is up.
Basically my uses are going to be: Using while I'm in bed, on the couch to mainly surf the web, email, play a few games here and there, and use for SmartGlass for my Xbox. If it's anything more than that, I'll just use my Macbook.
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I think it is wise to switch as long as you've done your research first. It can be expensive switching ecosystems, but Android tends to be much cheaper that iOS from what I've witnessed at least. But that is only part of what makes Android wonderful. As for the Tab 3 10.1, right now, I'm struggling because I wanted it to have user switching. That's something supported by Jellybean, but alas, Samsung has omitted it from this build. So I've been searching everywhere for custom ROMs but it seems that no one is developing for it because it runs on Intel and people aren't used to that structure just yet. All I can do it root is and tweak things here and there, but not what I want it to, so my point of view is a little skewed toward dislike.
If you have the funds, I would recommend the Nexus 10 32GB. Unfortunately, Nexus devices don't have microSD expansion like the Galaxy devices, but it has all the features it should and it would be easy to find custom development for it once you get bored with the stock UI.
TBH I personally would NOT recommend you buying the tab 3 10.1. I'd rather buy a Nexus 7 2013 or a Nexus 10 or a LG Gpad 8.3.
thsi is because of the silly Intel processor within the tab and Android not really cooperating with it.
You'll be better off running an ARM processor.
Just my 2 cents. Hope you enjoy whatever tablet you buy.
And as much as I dislike Windows 8 it works well on tablets. So that is also a good choice IMO
Good luck !
Nitro
I have the tab 3 10.1 and it's a pretty good tablet. There's nothing so far about it that I don't like, BUT the resolution.
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I think it is wise to switch as long as you've done your research first. It can be expensive switching ecosystems, but Android tends to be much cheaper that iOS from what I've witnessed at least. But that is only part of what makes Android wonderful. As for the Tab 3 10.1, right now, I'm struggling because I wanted it to have user switching. That's something supported by Jellybean, but alas, Samsung has omitted it from this build. So I've been searching everywhere for custom ROMs but it seems that no one is developing for it because it runs on Intel and people aren't used to that structure just yet. All I can do it root is and tweak things here and there, but not what I want it to, so my point of view is a little skewed toward dislike.
If you have the funds, I would recommend the Nexus 10 32GB. Unfortunately, Nexus devices don't have microSD expansion like the Galaxy devices, but it has all the features it should and it would be easy to find custom development for it once you get bored with the stock UI.
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Well I don't need the user switching, I mean this is just going to be a device that I use when I am not using my Macbook for fun or leisure. It wont be something that I rely on.
How would you say the tegra 3 compares to the intel chip in the Galaxy Tab 3 10.1?
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TBH I personally would NOT recommend you buying the tab 3 10.1. I'd rather buy a Nexus 7 2013 or a Nexus 10 or a LG Gpad 8.3.
thsi is because of the silly Intel processor within the tab and Android not really cooperating with it.
You'll be better off running an ARM processor.
Just my 2 cents. Hope you enjoy whatever tablet you buy.
And as much as I dislike Windows 8 it works well on tablets. So that is also a good choice IMO
Good luck !
Nitro
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How much faster is the Nexus 7 2013 going to be than the Galaxy Tab 3 10.1? I am considering the Nexus 7 now possibly.
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I have the tab 3 10.1 and it's a pretty good tablet. There's nothing so far about it that I don't like, BUT the resolution.
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Do you think it would be a good first device to dive into android with?
Thank you all for replying.
I had a dell streak 7 and it had a poor following for development, but I used it enough to know my next tab would be a 10 inch.(7 inch Too Small) I just got this tab 3, and it is killer. It doesn't have any custom ROMS that are drastically different that stock, Still...it is running the newest version of Jelly Bean, and really doesn't need "upgrading" It is so snappy and fast, I am tickled to death with it. I love the stock OS, and I figure by the time I get bored with it Cyanogen Mod will be available for it. Of course my view is also skewed because I was struggling with a Dell Streak 7 (slowpoke) before I got my Tab 3. I also enjoy (watching) the developers forum for this device, it's very entertaining because they discover new things about this tablet every day it seems. That stuff is mostly over my head right now, but I hope to learn more, so I can contribute in the future. Good luck with your choice...I just love mine.
I just bought a Tab 3 10.1 from Amazon last week. I also purchased a leather case with Bluetooth keyboard to go with it. The order total was 311 for me and well worth it. I also have a Galaxy s4.
I think if you are looking to switch to the Android ecosystem I would recommend setting up a Google account now if you do not have one already. The one thing I like about Google and the android environment is the built in cloud environment.
I am on my 4th Android phone and first tablet and have never had to transfer or backup contacts, settings or files. I log into the new device it automatically downloads the settings wallpaper and apps I use. The contacts are stored in the Google account on Google servers. I have seen even the most experienced iDevice users try to mimic this seamless integration but fall short (though not impossible).
My only advice in order to make sure you never have to back up files and pictures (with caution) is to utilize Google drive if you do not already.
When I first moved to Android from Blackberry the selling point was that my contacts are stored in my Google account. Saved my life many times.
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Well guys, I went to BestBuy to check out the tablets.
I looked at the Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 and 10.1, Note 8.0 and 10.1 and the Nexus 7.
The two tabs seemed a bit sluggish when getting in and out of apps, and the load times in chrome were a little slower compared to the Notes.
The Note 10.1 is the perfect device for me, I absolutely loved it, but it's way out of my price range. But I also loved the Note 8.0.
The Nexus 7 seemed nice too, but it was in some demo mode so I couldn't actually open apps and such.
How does the Note 8.0 compare to the Nexus 7? At this point I think I like the Note 8.0 more, purely based on form factor.
Edit: How much faster is the Note 8.0 than the Tab 3?
Also how does the Note 8.0 compare to the original Note 10.1?
As far as I am concerned NO MORE SAMSUNG. Samsung just doesn't support…update the system on any of their tabs. I am selling my Galaxy 10.1 note today and getting something else. Sold my S4 and got a nexus 5 and am very happy.
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As far as I am concerned NO MORE SAMSUNG. Samsung just doesn't support…update the system on any of their tabs. I am selling my Galaxy 10.1 note today and getting something else. Sold my S4 and got a nexus 5 and am very happy.
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Well that is interesting.
If you had to recommend me a tablet, what would you recommend? Other than the Nexus 7.
I'd Recommend the LG Gpad 8.3 Google Play Edition as it has a slightly bigger screen.
I do NOT recommend Samsung devices as they have a CRAP LOAD of bloatware installed. Quite a few of those things run constantly using up RAM/CPU and eating battery life and in return, they give nothing.
I'd rather have an AOSP based ROM without the 'goodies' than a stock ROM with them.
I've owned 4 samsung devices so I think I can speak for them
This is my skightly skewed opinion. you should decide what you buy. We are just giving you advice
MY advice would be to purchase a google play edition device/ Nexus device as I find them the best in terms of everything
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I'd Recommend the LG Gpad 8.3 Google Play Edition as it has a slightly bigger screen.
I do NOT recommend Samsung devices as they have a CRAP LOAD of bloatware installed. Quite a few of those things run constantly using up RAM/CPU and eating battery life and in return, they give nothing.
I'd rather have an AOSP based ROM without the 'goodies' than a stock ROM with them.
I've owned 4 samsung devices so I think I can speak for them
This is my skightly skewed opinion. you should decide what you buy. We are just giving you advice
MY advice would be to purchase a google play edition device/ Nexus device as I find them the best in terms of everything
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Well maybe I should just get the Nexus 7.
I can't seem to find a Google Play G Pad in my price range :/
Did you get the Nexus 7? I was going to until I found that some of the 2013 model had screen/hardware and touchscreen issues. My wife has the gtab 2 10.1 which I put cm 4.3 and a custom overclocked kernal on and it runs smooth and quick. After using it a while I wanted something a bit smaller for myself and settled on the gtab 3 8.0. I like the size much better and the screen is plenty big and bright. It is quick and responsive with the stock rom. There is some development happening for it including an overclocked kernal and I am waiting patiently for a stable rom.
If you bought the Nexus, let us know how it is. I hope it's one of the good ones.
When Did You All Purchase Your AT&T Note 4? Any Tint? Charcoal Black or White? What is the date of manufacturing according to Samsung's website?
You can find this information when registering your device as you enter the serial number.
I'm trying to narrow my buying choices now between the Note 4, Nexus 6, and iPhone 6 Plus.
The Note 4 is silky smooth. I have the iPhone 6, and I hardly pick it up now. I use the 6 as my daily driver, and the NOTE has become my reading device.
I had a 6 Plus for about a week before I exchanged it for a Note 4. Just couldn't get used to the iOS way of doing things. It also didn't want to play nice with my truck's Sync. Joanna was always complaining about not being able to find the iPhone, even after master resets.
You don't happen to work for Samsung, do you? Just kidding.
I did play with a iPhone 6+ demo unit, but didn't like the fact it was built mainly for the iOS ecosystem. I find Android very versatile, it seems now its between the Note 4 and Nexus 6 (both having AMOLED displays). Not sure about the Quality Control of Samsung though.
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The Note 4 is silky smooth. I have the iPhone 6, and I hardly pick it up now. I use the 6 as my daily driver, and the NOTE has become my reading device.
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The question really becomes what you want out of your phone.
PreOrdered October 14. (what tint?)
Note provides a different experience. Spen functions ( snote etc).
While not an issue if you want to run touchwiz free android.
Really if you don't care for spen then any high end android device out there can suffice.
Then the choice falls between ios vs android.
You guys forget to mention multitasking windows, I'll find it very useful recently when open 3 apps at the same times with Note 4
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You guys forget to mention multitasking windows, I'll find it very useful recently when open 3 apps at the same times with Note 4
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True but... multi-windows can be achieved with custom roms... or third party apps...
Bought mine 2 weeks ago. No tint, dead pixels, etc. Beauty of a phone. I buried it in an OtterBox though.
I recieved my black Note 4 last Tuesday. As far as I can tell, it was manufactured in October. No issues whatsoever. Best phone I've had to date.
Bought at ATT store, no issues with the screen or the phone in general. In fact if it were not so locked down the phone would be awesome.
Same was hoping it could be the last phone I buy for awhile but with it being so locked down it'll just be decent unless by some miracle we get a workaround to extend its life.
I have hesitated to ask this here but after searching for answers think it is relevant. I am going to buy the Tab S 32GB for myself after much research. I am going to get my 3 kids tablets for Christmas for Minecraft, email and texting etc. They will be used on wifi only. I would like to spend $200 for each. I think they would be best suited with smaller tablets and have looked at the Nexus 7. I see the 2013 model has 2GB ram. I have been using Samsung phones and have been rooting them mainly with stock rooted ROMs. I don't anticipate rooting the kids tabs unless the bloat and space makes it necessary. I like sd slots and removable batteries but realize they might not be necessary for the kids. If you have a Tab S or other Samsung tab, what would you get for 11 and 12 year old kids? Minecraft and YouTube are the most likely uses.
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Nexus7 2013 is a perfect choice, no bloatware, snapdragon onboard, updates from google and from xda.
Also LG 8.3 is nice and comes at a compettitive price.
There are several physics games I like for kids,doodle physics for example.
The galaxy tab s is too fragile. 1 drop and this thing breaks! Get an galaxy tab 3 or 4 if you want a Samsung tablet. But the nexus 7 2013 is a good choice as well.
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The galaxy tab s is too fragile. 1 drop and this thing breaks! Get an galaxy tab 3 or 4 if you want a Samsung tablet. But the nexus 7 2013 is a good choice as well.
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Thanks for the replies. I was thinking Nexus 7 and your replies confirm it is solid for the use intended.
The Samsung Pro 8.4 is on sale this weekend at BB. Still has a great screen compared to most other tablets and you'll be able to link all together to share stuff with each other.
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