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Should I buy the Note II?

I currently have the Galaxy Note 10.1, which currently has most of the features that the Note II already has, and soon to get more whenever they roll out JB.
I quite like the Note 10.1 and think that the Note II is quite a nice piece of equipment. But, I have this overwhelming feeling that the Note II's features will be redundant considering I have the tablet. That, or it'd make my tablet a bit useless, depends on how you look at it.
So, my question is, do you guys think I should buy the Galaxy Note II or the Galaxy S III? I also seen that the new LG Nexus 4 is quite nice, but with the flaw of not having expandable storage from what I've been able to gather. Or, do you guys have any phones that you would recommend that's pretty high end and expected to be good? I'm not buying my phone for at least a month, so I'm starting my research now.

The Note 2 is a perfect combination of a phone and a tablet. You can utilize it for both purposes easily. I strongly recommend it.
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The Note 2 is a perfect combination of a phone and a tablet. You can utilize it for both purposes easily. I strongly recommend it.
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Thank you for your recommendation. I'm going to do more digging into the phones to see what would be the best for me. But I'm unfortunately one of those techies that like my equipment to be high end and very pretty..

Question is really.. what do you do on your phone? watch movies? alot of web browsing?
i love my note 2 cos i do just that.. watch movies, listen to music, surf on the web reading news, forums.
couldnt live with anything smaller now. and me and my G/F use the pen daily.
if you like the Note 10.1 i think you cant go wrong with note 2 if you can stand the size

heatfire said:
Question is really.. what do you do on your phone? watch movies? alot of web browsing?
i love my note 2 cos i do just that.. watch movies, listen to music, surf on the web reading news, forums.
couldnt live with anything smaller now. and me and my G/F use the pen daily.
if you like the Note 10.1 i think you cant go wrong with note 2 if you can stand the size
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Well, on my current phone (Galaxy W CM9 Beta 1) I used to do a lot of web browsing, but, my current phone right now isn't playing very nice with me and Dolphin. I tend to do a lot of texting, as well. If I have the time in college or out and about I may watch a few things, depending on battery. It does seem like a brilliant choice. But, the 5.5 inches does sound rather insane! But the pen does come in handy a great deal. The Note II is the top contender for me, right now. No other phone even amounts to how amazing it is to me.

Note 2 is simply the best phone yet. And size is really good. Felt like it was designed for me after several hours of use. And the battery is so goood
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Well, I think it's decided! Thank you guys. I really do need something with good battery. I was worried that with the massive screen and overwhelming processor that the poor wee battery wouldn't be able to cope! The Galaxy W has terrible battery life when the data is active, which is something I tend to use a lot.

the size is huge but you get used to it, and i gotta say i love the pen for writing notes you can have a small notepad pop up every time you remove the pen im not a huge fan of onscreen keyboards and writing with the pen is very comfortable with almost no lag on the input.
was in the hospital for 4 days and the note 1 phone saved me with its huge screen, i watched youtube and movies and never felt the screen beeing to small or got eyestrain from its size.
Battery time is amazing on the note 2 also. about 8 hours watching movies twice what the first note could do, and the same the iphone 5 can do
ive seen some reports of even 10 hours watching movies
i dont see my phone as large any more, its normal its the other phones thats small.. smartphones should be about 5" with all this CPU power!

You should buy the note 2 because there is no other phone on the market now that can perform better than it benchmark test prove that.

zaslamel42 said:
I currently have the Galaxy Note 10.1, which currently has most of the features that the Note II already has, and soon to get more whenever they roll out JB.
I quite like the Note 10.1 and think that the Note II is quite a nice piece of equipment. But, I have this overwhelming feeling that the Note II's features will be redundant considering I have the tablet. That, or it'd make my tablet a bit useless, depends on how you look at it.
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I'm betting the note 2 is going to make your tablet redundant and not the other way around. You'd probably find yourself using the phone more than the tablet because how much easier it is to hold on to and take with you on the go.
Tablet functions on a phone that fits into my pocket? Yes, please.
My advice, sell the note 10.1 before the value goes down too much if you plan to get the note 2.

Silent25r said:
I'm betting the note 2 is going to make your tablet redundant and not the other way around. You'd probably find yourself using the phone more than the tablet because how much easier it is to hold on to and take with you on the go.
Tablet functions on a phone that fits into my pocket? Yes, please.
My advice, sell the note 10.1 before the value goes down too much if you plan to get the note 2.
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See, I use the tablet for note taking in college. Well, that's what I bought it for, at least. It arrived as my classes got to the point where I wasn't getting taught anything. So that's on hold for a month or so. I also use it for organisation with the calender for things such as college assessments and important dates. So I'd have the calender synced on both devices, which might increase productivity. I'm using it for app creation, whenever I get back into it, too. It's also used for when I need to use stuff like remote desktop, or take it out with me for when I go to fix up computers, or do work on my own, as well as general web browsing. And I use it for guitar, as well. One of the best uses I've found for it!
The Note II will make some of the features in my tablet useless, but I do use it for a great deal which the Note II couldn't do as well due to is smaller size. Being a programmer and musician, the screen, the better the results. I do admit that certain things will be used less, but certain things will be boosted, too. I've only just began to explore the uses for the tablet.

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zaslamel42 said:
See, I use the tablet for note taking in college. Well, that's what I bought it for, at least. It arrived as my classes got to the point where I wasn't getting taught anything. So that's on hold for a month or so. I also use it for organisation with the calender for things such as college assessments and important dates. So I'd have the calender synced on both devices, which might increase productivity. I'm using it for app creation, whenever I get back into it, too. It's also used for when I need to use stuff like remote desktop, or take it out with me for when I go to fix up computers, or do work on my own, as well as general web browsing. And I use it for guitar, as well. One of the best uses I've found for it!
The Note II will make some of the features in my tablet useless, but I do use it for a great deal which the Note II couldn't do as well due to is smaller size. Being a programmer and musician, the screen, the better the results. I do admit that certain things will be used less, but certain things will be boosted, too. I've only just began to explore the uses for the tablet.
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After looking at your list it would still seem the note 10.1 is a waste. I'm a programmer as well but not a musician. A laptop note 2 combo should beat out a note 2, note 10.1 combo for school related task by a long shot and both could sink to Google calendar. As a programmer I would hate to be stuck with all my devices running a mobile OS not to mention the added weight I would be force to endure from carrying all those devices. When fixing pc's I want the fastest and easiest to use device possible and there the note 2 would again beat out the 10.1 and not mention since it is a phone we'd always be carrying it.
It seems like the only real area it would shine is the musician route for your guitar and for that it seems overpriced. Of course this is all my opinion so please don't take any offensive to it.

If you get the note 2 you will end up selling the note 10.1... I own a note 1 (waiting for my note 2 to arrive) and I had a galaxy tab 10.1 p7500.. I bought my tab back when I had a gnexus and was very useful but since I got the note 1, I didn't use my tab at all so I've sold it because it was just a dust collector...
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Silent25r said:
After looking at your list it would still seem the note 10.1 is a waste. I'm a programmer as well but not a musician. A laptop note 2 combo should beat out a note 2, note 10.1 combo for school related task by a long shot and both could sink to Google calendar. As a programmer I would hate to be stuck with all my devices running a mobile OS not to mention the added weight I would be force to endure from carrying all those devices. When fixing pc's I want the fastest and easiest to use device possible and there the note 2 would again beat out the 10.1 and not mention since it is a phone we'd always be carrying it.
It seems like the only real area it would shine is the musician route for your guitar and for that it seems overpriced. Of course this is all my opinion so please don't take any offensive to it.
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I see where you're coming from, and I'm happy with your input. The Note 10.1 is brilliant for college related stuff because I have a desktop, meaning with my Note 10.1 I'm able to sit downstairs to study. It's also great for college because of how light weight it is. I just pop it in my bag and off I go. The way I use it is quite productive, for me. When fixing PC's it's normally so that I can have certain things up on the screen such as instructions, videos and what not, meaning the bigger screen is still more efficient. I normally have my bag with me when fixing PC's so it's again, on my person and easily carried. I went with the Note 10.1 over a laptop because of 1.) It's lighter 2.) Faster to boot up and operate, since everything in android is small (for the most part) and 3.) A laptop would be a waste, considering I have a high-end desktop. I did plan out what I needed before making the decision of getting one. As a programmer, though.. I work on Visual Studio for college and my own C# projects, but with Android - when I go to learn to develop on it - I will be programming with a mixture of AIDE and Eclipse. AIDE is an APK in android that lets you design apps straight from your device, then build and test them, too. It also syncs with your workspace for on the go.
But, I do thank you for your honesty. My set up is ideal for me, so far. Just that my phones a bit rubbish because of the lack of ram. I still need to look more into what is out there. Money is a bit of a factor so if I can get something that's pretty great with a lower price tag I'll probably jump on it.

aaah galaxy note 2 may be best for me
very helpfull thread after reading through this thread i think i am gonna buy not 2 only i have this old galaxy S which i think needs a replacement :cyclops: few days back i saw this galaxy note 2 in a show room since then i doubted whether to buy such a big phone or not but now i think i will buy it as soon as i collect enough resources i mainly use android phones to play games

shameless15 said:
very helpfull thread after reading through this thread i think i am gonna buy not 2 only i have this old galaxy S which i think needs a replacement :cyclops: few days back i saw this galaxy note 2 in a show room since then i doubted whether to buy such a big phone or not but now i think i will buy it as soon as i collect enough resources i mainly use android phones to play games
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If you want an android phone for gaming I'd recommend a T3 device like the HTC One X+. T3 has exclusive THD games however Gameloft games don't work as well as not optimised properly for T3.
None the less GN2 is still packing some gaming power behind it.

A simple answer to your question is. If you are buying a smart phone now, than buy Note 2. Why settle for something less, when the next big thing is already here. Lol
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EvoYas said:
A simole answer to your question is. If youbare buying a snart phone now, than buy Note 2. Why settle for aomething less, when the next big thing is already here. Lol
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Aha, top lad! I'm hoping that the 32Gb/64Gb version is out by next month! Samsung never have enough chips to actually release those modes. (

planning to get one, how is it?

I'm planning to get one for college, how is it (overall)?
but if you're a student using this, please let me know too.

Have had mine for about right hours now. Was thinking of moving down from the 10.1 to something smaller for a while now (GT7.7 is current daily driver). The 10.1 is a great tab but the size is a bit too cumbersome for me. So far, very impressed with the overall experience. Typical quality Samsung build. Got root (MSkip's Tool Kit) no issue. Lecture Notes perform well. Will be doing more as the days go by for meeting notes.
You notice that at first the available space is limited to around 9GB. Plan to add a uSD you'll probably need it.
Screen is same resolution as 10.1 but looks a bit better (smaller screen size helps).
So far it's a keeper.

skeeterpro said:
Have had mine for about right hours now. Was thinking of moving down from the 10.1 to something smaller for a while now (GT7.7 is current daily driver). The 10.1 is a great tab but the size is a bit too cumbersome for me. So far, very impressed with the overall experience. Typical quality Samsung build. Got root (MSkip's Tool Kit) no issue. Lecture Notes perform well. Will be doing more as the days go by for meeting notes.
You notice that at first the available space is limited to around 9GB. Plan to add a uSD you'll probably need it.
Screen is same resolution as 10.1 but looks a bit better (smaller screen size helps).
So far it's a keeper.
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thanks for the info!

Yea I use mine for college... works well but you will need an sd card. Take a look at the new nexus 7 aswell.
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Honestly, if you want the spen, there is no real alternative. It's very light and thin... perfect for carrying around in public and taking notes.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291973
Here's my thread on my experience

I have had mine for about 2 weeks now and love it. I primarily bought it for the S Pen to use during my meetings at work and my classes at night. . I will say that I am still getting used to writing with the S Pen. I still have issues writing certain symbols and letters with the pen so I am not effective as I want to be. Hopefully that will change soon. As many have said, if you think you will use the S Pen feature a lot, I would highly recommend it. If not, for a cheaper price, I would look at a few other tabs out there.

I would say that unless you want/need/would use the S-Pen, the new Nexus 7 would be the best route to go....and it's half the price. That said, this is the best tablet in it's class for pen support.
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I noticed some people mentioning the Nexus 7, but it has its own drawbacks. Benchmarks posted on Youtube, show the Note 8.0 still beating the new Nexus 7 in some benchmarks. The gpu on the Nexus 7 probably is faster though.
But the Nexus 7" screen really is actually smaller than 7", due to the command buttons being on the screen itself. The Note pen also has more uses than just writing. I find the pen great for selecting items that are in tiny print on a web page, you can also view drop down boxes on websites with the pen by hovering the pen over them, something you can't do by hand.

Note 8.0 is so worth it imo. I wasnt sure like u, but I just went for it cause I wanted a tablet not big or small so of course tried 8 inch and havent regretted it. But I must admit, stock rom (out of the box) I did not like it. I was close to returning it but decided to root and installs civs rom. Since then, my tablet is pure awesome. To me its an ordinary tablet like theothers just has some special features which is modtly the spen and some spen apps.
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Very happy with this good battery life, smooth system, great performance :thumbup:
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im considering this myself. I was wondering, however, has anyone taking notes with the note 2, and how is it? I'd rather wait for the note 3 and basically compact all my devices into to one thing if possible.

Anyone know what gpu the Note 3 is getting? I'm only curious because that's what the Note 8.0 successor will be getting next year...
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thank you guys, i got one today!! although the new nexus is nice, i wanted the s pen!

Has Samsung made any announcements as far as the next generation of the Note 8? I love the S pen but I really need a display higher than 320 ppi...

Bulishor said:
Has Samsung made any announcements as far as the next generation of the Note 8? I love the S pen but I really need a display higher than 320 ppi...
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not being a PITA but really would love to know what you'll be using yours for that truly requires that level of pixel density? We are always seeing new uses so it's great to share your use.
My use is just text with a handful of sketching so a screen PPI of 170ish is OK. Butaeyonehas different needs.
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brecklundin said:
not being a PITA but really would love to know what you'll be using yours for that truly requires that level of pixel density? We are always seeing new uses so it's great to share your use.
My use is just text with a handful of sketching so a screen PPI of 170ish is OK. Butaeyonehas different needs.
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All my books are digital now and unless the display looks like a page (pixels are indistinguishable), my eyes get tired after about half an hour of reading.

evernote. lecture notes, audio master floating, multiwindow. s pen perfect for notes
pham818 said:
I'm planning to get one for college, how is it (overall)?
but if you're a student using this, please let me know too.
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I've been using the note 8 for a while now and if what you want is work and note taking...it's just perfect: here's my set up for note taking:
1) With multiwindow on...
2) EVERNOTE on the left panel (window). --yep EVERNOTE supports MULTIWINDOW hurray!!!!
3) Lecture notes on the right panel(window)
4) Audio Master Floating....floating around.
I know evernote has skitch but switching between this and the main app loses valuable time when you're taking down notes. it's much easier to jot down text on evernote and scribble into lecture notes (side by side)...then if you're done with the lecture, you can just export the entire lecture note scribble onto evernote and everything get's synchronized...plus if you don't wanna export to evernote...that's fine too since images are really a lot of data to upload.
I know evernote also has a built in recording function but again switching between that and the actual text app again loses valuable time, Audiomaster floating is fast, pumps up the voice recording volume (if the speaker is far) and you can save the audio under various formats...and it can record while you write....I know lecture notes has an audiorecorder as well but as I said, it's much faster to have all three options available instantaneously while taking down notes and that's all made possible by...yep,...you guessed it...the note 8.
final APPS:
5) ES file explorer, camera ace on your android phone and FOLDER SYNCLITE:
--SET up es file explorer as an FTP server on your phone or tablet and assign a folder to store all your lecture pics (to be taken for a particular lecture) using camera ace on your phone. Then set up folder sync lite to synchronize those folders between the note 8 and you're android phone...voilia...no more flailing around the large note 8 to take pictures,,,you can take pics with your camera phone (less bothersome) and synchronize it striaght to your note 8 to annotate powerpoint slides captured directly from the phone but edited more efficiently on the larger screen of the note 8 (no internet requiring drop box or other cloud storage service required). This one I haven't had the chance to do yet...But I believe it is possible...
I know all these individual apps are already available on other devices...but none of these even come close to the sheer..."multitasking behemoth" that is the note 8. Actually, the "behemoth" would be the note 10 (which is also great for that size category) so this would make the note 8 the porsche....really easy to slip into a large enough coat pocket (side pockets of course). Built in 3G also adds functionality for early cross referencing using the internet.
Battery life is good...lasts a day (one app at a time use)...but when I use it for this type of simultaneous multitasking (s pen, hover, constantly updating evernote with imports from lecture note), it will probably only last half a day...still no tablet out there can do the same I think in half a day...You can always go back to one app at a time note taking to get the regular bat life...but the option for true multitasking will always be there.
note 8 is expensive but as the name emplies...It's for hard core note taking....
Just my 2 cents worth...good luck to you on your decision.

The Note 8 is a fantastic tablet. While the specs of the new Nexus 7 look impressive for the price, I find 7 inch screens too small. For me 8 inch is the perfect size. Also I actually like TouchWiz and prefer it to stock Android which looks kind of dull.
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Bulishor said:
All my books are digital now and unless the display looks like a page (pixels are indistinguishable), my eyes get tired after about half an hour of reading.
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I had a suspicion it was reading. I've been a longtime ebook guy so I know exactly what you are saying. Better fonts help some folks but not always.
As an aside for the N8. I set the system font to...ROSEMARY @ normal font size plus legibility set to ENHANCED and have been pleased. weirdly COOL JAZZ set to LARGE works for me as well. Those fonts are two I would never have considered because I am a pretty plain & boring Helvetica sorta guy but on the N8 they simply work for my eyes... who knew??
For me its the lighter weight fonts and smaller text where resolution becomes critical. Luckily for me there is something about the way Samsung seems to manage the color temperature of the backlight which helps me a great deal.
My Asus TF 700T (Transformer Infinity) has a lot higher PPI but I find I prefer the end result on my Note 8.0 over reading on the larger device. I will add I haven't put in any reading sessions ( literature not mags) > l-hr. on the N8. So how my eyes feel is still not fully determined.. I do use it all day long and several hours each night.
I have noticed we might have begun to see a return of importance of screen refresh rates. I suspect rhe IPS-type panels aredoing things to make them useless power but at the cost of eyestrain returning. d wish he trade rags had the stones to do real reviews like in the 80's & 90's but fear those days are long gone.
I still do most all my novel reading on my Kindle II.
Thanks for elaborating I'm sure it will help others trying decide which way to jump.
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[Q] Note 8 vs Note 10.1

Hello, everybody.
I was looking to buy a Galaxy Note 8 for the past weeks, reading forums, reviews, etc. I really like it for the SPen, Quadcore and for being 8 inch. Then I saw a promotion on Note 10.1 which is the cheapest I've ever seen. Well, the difference between Note 8 and Note 10.1 prices is only $28 (Note 8 as more expensive). Both of them only wifi version.
Considering the image quality, the updates, the lightly fast processing, the light weight and new technology on Note 8, I really don't know what to do. I mean, 149ppi of Note 10.1 is really annoying and its weight is not comparable to Note 8 (but the weight is not a really problem to me).
On the other hand, I'm just thinking if I would be pleased in watching videos, reading books or other results with images (photo, games) with the 8" screen. What would be better in general for you?
P.S.: The Note 8 wifi only has a samsung official update (on-the-air) for Android 4.2.2?
Thank you all.

happydisorder said:
Hello, everybody.
I was looking to buy a Galaxy Note 8 for the past weeks, reading forums, reviews, etc. I really like it for the SPen, Quadcore and for being 8 inch. Then I saw a promotion on Note 10.1 which is the cheapest I've ever seen. Well, the difference between Note 8 and Note 10.1 prices is only $28 (Note 8 as more expensive). Both of them only wifi version.
Considering the image quality, the updates, the lightly fast processing, the light weight and new technology on Note 8, I really don't know what to do. I mean, 149ppi of Note 10.1 is really annoying and its weight is not comparable to Note 8 (but the weight is not a really problem to me).
On the other hand, I'm just thinking if I would be pleased in watching videos, reading books or other results with images (photo, games) with the 8" screen. What would be better in general for you?
P.S.: The Note 8 wifi only has a samsung official update (on-the-air) for Android 4.2.2?
Thank you all.
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I'll attempt to help you out. Never used a Note 10.1 but have read many posts from users that have both. Most feedback is exactly what you stated. Note 8 has a better screen, speed/smoothness, and feel to it. As for reading books I'm not sure but for me the 8" screen is about the perfect tablet size. If you use the tablet at home primarily than a 10" tablet would work out fine. However if you plan on carting the thing around my opinion is the 10" tablet is a bit cumbersome.
As far as I know there is no official Samsung 4.2.2 release. The build being used currently is a beta leak. However, I'm running a 4.2.2 custom rom and it is 100% stable, has floating multiwindows like the Note 10, and is smoother than 4.1.2. The Note 8 may never see an official release because Samsung might just jump right to 4.3. I would think something should be released in the near future.

Thank you, CCallahan!
I was convinced to get Note 8 when I saw this promo that put the choice in my personal view and not exactly in the price.
I would like to get around with my tablet as I'm doing some academic works and I would use it at home for entertainment since my notebook can always do the hardwork here. I do work with video so I would like to get a nice screen for viewing pics/videos, image quality is pretty important here (considering the Note 10.1 screen). I have another doubt about web browsing (I'm putting this things cause I've never tried both tablets on my hands), but in video reviews the Note 8 seems to get it done as well.
I'm voting on Note 8 as I only think in Note 10.1 for its screen size.
P.S.: what do you mean when you say "I would think something should be released in the near future." Do you mean a new GNote tablet or that Note 8 could get 4.3 update?

err we do have the official release of 4.2.2 on note 8 but the last release was for germany & asean region. but the features are less then what we expected... plus some feat missing.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/12...e-rolling-out-to-galaxy-note-8-0-3g-gt-n5100/

happydisorder said:
Thank you, CCallahan!
I was convinced to get Note 8 when I saw this promo that put the choice in my personal view and not exactly in the price.
I would like to get around with my tablet as I'm doing some academic works and I would use it at home for entertainment since my notebook can always do the hardwork here. I do work with video so I would like to get a nice screen for viewing pics/videos, image quality is pretty important here (considering the Note 10.1 screen). I have another doubt about web browsing (I'm putting this things cause I've never tried both tablets on my hands), but in video reviews the Note 8 seems to get it done as well.
I'm voting on Note 8 as I only think in Note 10.1 for its screen size.
P.S.: what do you mean when you say "I would think something should be released in the near future." Do you mean a new GNote tablet or that Note 8 could get 4.3 update?
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I was wrong about 4.2.2 obviously. Did not realize some 3g models were currently getting that rolled out.
What I meant was since 4.3 is already out some manufacturers such as HTC are choosing to bypass a 4.2.2 release and go straight to 4.3 on certain devices. Thought this could be a possibility for some Samsung devices as well.
As for web browsing on the Note 8, I was pleasantly surprised with how quickly it loads web pages. I have an S4 as well and the Note is much faster.
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The note 8 is a great device. . Better than the note 10.1
If you don't do much reading... and don't need spen ..get the nexus 7 2013. ..it has an amazing screen and the speakers are awesome... and the price and updates are unbeatable.. (just got it too)
Also consider the new LG gpad 8.3 inch tab which had been announced
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happydisorder said:
Hello, everybody.
I was looking to buy a Galaxy Note 8 for the past weeks, reading forums, reviews, etc. I really like it for the SPen, Quadcore and for being 8 inch. Then I saw a promotion on Note 10.1 which is the cheapest I've ever seen. Well, the difference between Note 8 and Note 10.1 prices is only $28 (Note 8 as more expensive). Both of them only wifi version.
Considering the image quality, the updates, the lightly fast processing, the light weight and new technology on Note 8, I really don't know what to do. I mean, 149ppi of Note 10.1 is really annoying and its weight is not comparable to Note 8 (but the weight is not a really problem to me).
On the other hand, I'm just thinking if I would be pleased in watching videos, reading books or other results with images (photo, games) with the 8" screen. What would be better in general for you?
P.S.: The Note 8 wifi only has a samsung official update (on-the-air) for Android 4.2.2?
Thank you all.
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I have a tab10.1 and a note 8.0.
I use both for:
Internet, Email, movies, games. reading books and magazines.
Advantage 8.0: Weight, size
Disadvange: The only real disadvantage compared to the 10.1 is when reading magazines. Have to zoom in a lot and then lose track
8.0 goes on travel, I find the 10.1 to big for on the road.
Im just comparing form factor, not the actual devices.

Ok!
edan1979: Thanks for the link, i'm going to ready some stuff about that. I was confused about the update being for 5010 or only 5000 but now I understand.
pakure: I'm choosing Note series for reading and Spen for writing in first place and to see as well if I can do some others creative works with the Spen. Anyway, I will be watching a lot of stuff ocasionally and gaming but I'll be primmarly focusing on Spen and reading/writing. And getting a good use of its quadcore.
HANSB57: Yeah, I like your comparison from having both options. I like the portability for travelling and walking around with it. I would really like a Note that would be possible to carry around a lot, everywhere. Something light but with a screen able to do multitasking, easy to write/read, to anotate, to watch videos and to edit imgs.
I have two days to make my choice and now I'm going on Note 8.

Thexgn fine
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I was wrong about 4.2.2 obviously. Did not realize some 3g models were currently getting that rolled out.
What I meant was since 4.3 is already out some manufacturers such as HTC are choosing to bypass a 4.2.2 release and go straight to 4.3 on certain devices. Thought this could be a possibility for some Samsung devices as well.
As for web browsing on the Note 8, I was pleasantly surprised with how quickly it loads web pages. I have an S4 as well and the Note is much faster.
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I understand! Since my option is N5110, I'm on wifi only on 4.1.2. I'll be waiting that future update to really come. Let's see what Samsung is capable of. It shouldn't exist that kind of OS politics. It's such easy to get these updates in new devices.

After knowing your device requirements,......I suggest you get the note 8.
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err we do have the official release of 4.2.2 on note 8 but the last release was for germany & asean region. but the features are less then what we expected... plus some feat missing.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/12...e-rolling-out-to-galaxy-note-8-0-3g-gt-n5100/
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But this build have issue on S pen accuracy. There is a thread on this.

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But this build have issue on S pen accuracy. There is a thread on this.
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Yeah some got issue with the spen. But some dont have this problem. Its ok on my device.
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Yeah, pakure.
I have three last important questions! I need to read PDF as results of books scanning. Is it fine to read these PDF files that are in landscape orientation? I mean 2 pages side by side in one landscape pdf page. Is it possible to read at least holding the Note 8 in horizontal view?
The second question is that I read about a 32gb microSD size limitation at samsung official user manual. But in gsmarena (for example) I can see the limit up to 64gb. Well, I would like to know if is it possible to put a 64gb microSD on Note 5110.
And the third one is about the speed limit. Which should be the ideal speed for getting a microSD card? Thinking about external read/write maximum speed allowed.
Thanks again, people!

I have owned the 10.1 and now the 8.0. Writing is fine on either device. I'm taking college courses at night and I prefer the 8.0 for portability. The speakers are way better on the 8.0. My biggest issues of the 10.1 was the screen, being bigger but the same resolution as the 8.0 was just blurry enough to be annoying. It's a bigger issue than one would think. Also its hard to hold without being in the way. where as the 8.0 is nice for ebooks and surfing the net.
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Yeah, pakure.
I have three last important questions! I need to read PDF as results of books scanning. Is it fine to read these PDF files that are in landscape orientation? I mean 2 pages side by side in one landscape pdf page. Is it possible to read at least holding the Note 8 in horizontal view?
The second question is that I read about a 32gb microSD size limitation at samsung official user manual. But in gsmarena (for example) I can see the limit up to 64gb. Well, I would like to know if is it possible to put a 64gb microSD on Note 5110.
And the third one is about the speed limit. Which should be the ideal speed for getting a microSD card? Thinking about external read/write maximum speed allowed.
Thanks again, people!
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1. i think you need to zoom it a lil bit. depend on the book size... if the scan book are big you might not see it.
2. 64gb class 10 working fine. i use it on my note 2 and this note 8
3. go for class 10.

sdelliott31: once gain it's very good to listen somebody who owns both tablets. I'm really appreciated in choosing Note 8 for the pointings that you've said.
edan1979: ok! I'll need just a few books with that kind of display (horizontal 2 pages viewing), but it'll be ok zooming in particularly cases. And for the speed, I'll be glad to go for up to 30MB/s class 10 card.
Getting a option now shoud be easy after your support. I'll be getting back soon to the forum to share my experience with other users!

I used to own a Note 10.1 and now have the Note 8.0.
I would say it's a slightly better experience drawing and writing on the 10.1 because of the extra screen size.
Multi window is also more useful on the larger tablet, battery life is longer and speakers are louder.
The 10.1 also has a true tablet ui while the Note 8.0 has in effect a phone ui.
Having said all that I sold the 10.1 once I got the 8.0 for the following reasons.
As others have mentioned the 10.1 is just blurry enough to be annoying. It is more of an eye strain to read text on it than it is to read it on the Note 8.0 inspite of the larger physical size of the screen. Also the colour rendition seems better on the 8.0. The 10.1 colours seem slightly washed out in comparison.
There are times where I feel a little cramped writing on the 8.0 but these moments are hardly worth worrying about in comparison to the advantages of the smaller form factor. The 10.1 is more cumbersome to carry around and it's significantly heavier so it starts to get tiring to hold after a time. The 8.0 is also much easier to type on while holding it in portrait mode. While holding it in both hands your thumbs can easily reach all the letters.
The 8.0 also seems smother overall. The 10.1 can exhibit a little lag at time, for instance a slight delay when trying to switch apps via the recent apps button. It's still a good performer but the 8.0 is just very slick and smooth almost all the time.
Battery life on the 8.0 could be better but it's enough to get me through an 8 hour day on a full charge. I guess Samsung had to make a trade off here - a bigger battery would mean more weight and thickness so the device wouldn't feel as amazing as it does in the hand.
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they actually could do better with the battery... my old 7.7 equip with 5100mah

I own both tablets. I just got the 8" because I used to have a tab 8.9 and I thought that was the perfect size for a tablet. This one is close, more similar to a moleskine notebook.
I'm a graphic artist and honestly the resolution never bothered me on the 10". Sure you can definitely make out the pixels, just move the screen an inch away or, as a personal trick I use an anti-glare screen protector. The suddle fuzziness blends the pixels together removing the aliasing that everyone hates. Plus it makes it look more natural (prints are not extra sharp), less reflective, helps finger gliding and gives a feeling of paper when using the pen.
That said I think the 8" is better for being more portable. And that's all you really should want from a tablet. Also the pen is slightly smaller but more round and easier to hold.
I'm currently using it with a SanDisk ultra 64gb sd card and it doesn't have any problem reading it. (Both tablets didn't).

dr.mOX: yeah, once gain 10.1 battery and screen size seems to be the point to make this decision sounds hard. But for Note 8 being smoother, newer and lightly portable is what should matter. I'm thinking over and over, but each time I look around it really looks like a certain decision on Note 8. As what you've said, trades are made for better experiences in another ways. For the Phone UI, it's a little thing, but it's a different thing. Anyway, it should be fine in portrait mode.
DBBGBA: Nice to read it. It's very important to be very close to "tablet experience" to me as with notebooks we can do some working with a restricted, but possible, another kind of portability.

Decisions, decisions......

I am getting a new tablet. I have a nexus 7 first edition. I also have a i717 note. My question is- Do I get a lte nexus 7 2013 (will run on tmo's free 200 mg for life) , or a wifi Note 8, or a wifi galaxy tab 3 8inch. Those are the 3 I have been looking into. Anyone want to share their opinion? Thanks.

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I am getting a new tablet. I have a nexus 7 first edition. I also have a i717 note. My question is- Do I get a lte nexus 7 2013 (will run on tmo's free 200 mg for life) , or a wifi Note 8, or a wifi galaxy tab 3 8inch. Those are the 3 I have been looking into. Anyone want to share their opinion? Thanks.
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If it was me, it would be a binary decision. If you need S-Pen, Note 8. If not, then probably 8 in since I prefer that size. Plenty of threads talking about usefulness of the pen, but basically if you want to take notes, it's the only way to go, IMHO.
If you don't know if you need then pen, you probably don't.

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If it was me, it would be a binary decision. If you need S-Pen, Note 8. If not, then probably 8 in since I prefer that size. Plenty of threads talking about usefulness of the pen, but basically if you want to take notes, it's the only way to go, IMHO.
If you don't know if you need then pen, you probably don't.
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I totally agree. The S pen is pure magic. It give like 40-50% added functionality to the note 8 along with multi-window. Without it, or if you don't need it, the note 8 is just simply overpriced....
If you do need the S-pen, I think the 8 inch size is the best form factor for portability and screen estate. The smaller phablets are just too small I think to adequately use the S-pen on a regular basis (unless you just like to scrible down mini notes) and the larger ones are just to cumbersome to carry around (unless you're a digital artist who really needs the canvas for sketches).

Thank you guys. I think you helped me make up my mind. I have had the original Note i717 for almost 2 years and hardly ever used that pen. I am looking more for easy portability so even though I do love the bigger screen, I think the way to go for me is the 7 inch. Just seems more pocketable and an easier throw in the purse and go gadget. I do appreciate your thoughts though. Thanks for sharing.

For me I wanted a phone dialer which ruled out the Nexus and gave me the choice of Samsung or the ASUS Fonepad.. I don't have any doubt that if you don't need a dialer, and don't need an SPen the Nexus 7 is the best value small tablet out there. The Galaxy Tabs are good vale and nice enough tablets, but not up to the Note 8 even without the spen. The main reason to get a Note 8 though as to be the spen.

@ Richard d- Does the note8 have a phone dialer??? You can make calls on the us version?? or Wifi over voip? Thanks!

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@ Richard d- Does the note8 have a phone dialer??? You can make calls on the us version?? or Wifi over voip? Thanks!
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I'm in the UK, but yes the 3G europe versions have a phone dialer, just like the 3G tabs - works just like any mobile phone (albeit a little on the large size ).

The US versions of the Note have the telephone capability removed. They are WiFi only, or LTE equipped (AT&T branded). They can only make phone calls via VoIP. The international versions of Samsung tablets are essentially smartphones.
I use a Note 8 N5100 as my phone on AT&T's network (it also works on T-Mobile). Since it's not designed to work in the US, it only has the HSPA frequencies not LTE. This works fine in my world, I value phone functionality more than download speed bragging rights.
That said, the Note 8 is really large for a daily driver. Unless you carry a purse or other bag with you as a constant companion, it's a little inconvenient when it comes to portability. A 7 inch tablet would be significantly easier to fit into my wardrobe. But that extra 1" fundamentally changes how apps work. The difference is not trivial: 7“ is essentially a large phone, while 8“ functions as a small tablet. To really see the impact of this, visit a store and check out the Tab 7 and Tab 8 side by side. For me, having the extra real estate is worth the hassle 99% of the time. The other 1% of the time, I have my number forwarded to a flip phone on a 2¢ min plan.
There are 7" tablets with telephony. The Asus Fonepad and Samsung Tab 7 (international version). Both can be had for significantly less than the Note 8.

I don't know why people keep comparing the Note 8 to the Nexus 7, then claim the Note 8 is overpriced. The Note 8 screen is larger, that in itself makes it cost more. The Note 8 also has more features than the Nexus 7 does. I own both and much prefer the Note 8. The pen is used for more than just writing also, plus its stored inside the tablet itself so its always there when you want it.
The Note 8 also is *not* large. You might as well use a phone if you want something smaller.
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I don't know why people keep comparing the Note 8 to the Nexus 7, then claim the Note 8 is overpriced. The Note 8 screen is larger, that in itself makes it cost more. The Note 8 also has more features than the Nexus 7 does. I own both and much prefer the Note 8. The pen is used for more than just writing also, plus its stored inside the tablet itself so its always there when you want it.
The Note 8 also is *not* large. You might as well use a phone if you want something smaller.
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The price is actually close at the moment. The wifi Note 8 was just $30 more than the LTE nexus. But if you compare wifi to wifi, it is a lot more $$. If I don't like my Nexus 7, that's my next one to try. I was looking for smaller portability. But that 8 inch screen was very nice.
I went for the Nexus!

TC93 said:
I don't know why people keep comparing the Note 8 to the Nexus 7, then claim the Note 8 is overpriced. The Note 8 screen is larger, that in itself makes it cost more. The Note 8 also has more features than the Nexus 7 does. I own both and much prefer the Note 8. The pen is used for more than just writing also, plus its stored inside the tablet itself so its always there when you want it.
The Note 8 also is *not* large. You might as well use a phone if you want something smaller.
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I never said the Note 8 was overpriced, I paid $570 for my N5100, and it was worth every penny. There is not another tablet on the market that I would prefer. That said, the Note 8 is significantly more expensive than the Nexus 7. In my opinion, the size difference is significant, and the Nexus 7 can be more easily accommodated than Note 8 for people that do not use bags/purses/backpacks, etc. Still, I like the Note 8, it's my phone!

I just picked up the Note 8
I had to see what I would be missing, so Now I have the nexus 7 lte and the note 8. I have till Jan 14th to decide what I will be bringing back. Best Buys return policy is now on holiday return schedule if purchased after Nov. 3rd. Items need to be returned by Jan 14th.
There is a whole bunch of freebies with the Note 8 tablet- $25 google play credit, 3 months hulu plus credit, sat radio, etc. Link explains it.
http://www.samsung.com/us/register-for-your-galaxy-perks/#note-8-boingo

NO new Note 8 +

Well it looks for sure that we will not get a new Note 8 model.
For those of us who love it, it is a big disappointment but I've read many places it didn't sell that well.
Somehow I don't believe that as 8 inch is the sweet spot in tablets and the stylus beats all the competition.
Has anyone gone to the Note 10 2014 or the Note 12.2?
What great advantage do they have?
They certainly don't have the portability and handiness of the Note 8.
I'd hate to see this line die, especially when Samsung is pumping out models like lab rats.

Shofar1 said:
Well it looks for sure that we will not get a new Note 8 model.
For those of us who love it, it is a big disappointment but I've read many places it didn't sell that well.
Somehow I don't believe that as 8 inch is the sweet spot in tablets and the stylus beats all the competition.
Has anyone gone to the Note 10 2014 or the Note 12.2?
What great advantage do they have?
They certainly don't have the portability and handiness of the Note 8.
I'd hate to see this line die, especially when Samsung is pumping out models like lab rats.
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The 10.1 I used to have and went back to the note 8. Mostly for portability. I am TEMPTED to try the 8.4 pro with this stylys Apex Fine Point
It works REALLY well with the Nexus 7. Only draw back is no holder on the 8.4

lp894 said:
The 10.1 I used to have and went back to the note 8. Mostly for portability. I am TEMPTED to try the 8.4 pro with this stylys Apex Fine Point
It works REALLY well with the Nexus 7. Only draw back is no holder on the 8.4
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But does it do OCR?
With the Note 8, all the programs - sorry apps, that I use the Note converts my writing to text and does a pretty good job at it.
That's really important to me.
I don't think the Note 10 has enough going for it for me to give up the portability.

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But does it do OCR?
With the Note 8, all the programs - sorry apps, that I use the Note converts my writing to text and does a pretty good job at it.
That's really important to me.
I don't think the Note 10 has enough going for it for me to give up the portability.
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The 10.1 does have OCR and the handwriting recognition is much better. The S-Pen also feels much better with writing with it. It there was a note 8(or 8.4) with the same breed of Android that is on the 10.1 I would throw the note 8 in the trash lol

lp894 said:
The 10.1 does have OCR and the handwriting recognition is much better. The S-Pen also feels much better with writing with it. It there was a note 8(or 8.4) with the same breed of Android that is on the 10.1 I would throw the note 8 in the trash lol
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I would certainly go for a Note 8.4 but I would never through my faithful Note 8 in the trash.
It would be a great gift for someone.

Maybe I am missing the point... the 10.1 2013 edition is lacking power. As for the 2014 edition it is quite the tablet, but if I were to get anything larger than 9 inches, I would go for a 12" tablet that ran a full OS, not Android. No, I am not an Android hater, just when you play with phablets, you get android, mostly because of the lack of storage space. With a true tablet, storage space should not be an issue for a full fledged OS.
Because I see the Note 8.0 tablet as an in between of sorts, my expectations are minimal. Given that the stock firmware works pretty darn good, having an S-pen, hand writing capabilities, and Samsung search functions that are lightning fast over Google's. The only issue I see is Androids inability to automatically sync time from the internet. Though there are apps for that. If there are any complaints about the Note 8.0 not meeting expectations, then the end user should have found what he or she wanted in the first place.
I waited a year for something like the Note 8.0, and knew once I had it something else would have something that the Note 8.0 did not have. I purchased mine knowing its limitations, as they did not matter.
Since Samsung has released the Tab pro 8.0 does it make me want one... No. Nor will any other tablet that has an 8 inch screen, well until this tablet becomes faulty, then there will be time for replacing.

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I would certainly go for a Note 8.4 but I would never through my faithful Note 8 in the trash.
It would be a great gift for someone.
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I agree. I've been using the N5100 as my phone and tablet, and even though I think I'm going to purchase a new phone, I've gotta keep this as a tablet. Using S-Note for taking notes in meetings has totally spoiled me.
Shame that sammy hasn't re-upped with a 2014 version, but I'll be keeping my Note 8 for reading epubs and taking notes.

I'm as much a "new tech whore" as anyone on XDA (11 tabs over the past 12-14 months) and have come to the conclusion that there never will be a "OneSize Fits All" tab. Having had tabs from 7 to 10.1 inches, for overall usefulness, the GNote8 works best for me. Sure, it ain't perfect. Nothing is. And yes, I was tempted to score the GNote 8 Pro but the lack of SPen/digitizer was a deal breaker. For me at least. The GNote8 does all I require when I require. If I need a Windows tab the Dell 8 Pro serves me well.
We may well be seeing the winding down of significant upgrades in the tablet form factor. Minor tweaks and cosmetic adjustments might be what's in store. Do I need the "latest and greatest"? Nah. Find what works for you and just enjoy!

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But does it do OCR?
With the Note 8, all the programs - sorry apps, that I use the Note converts my writing to text and does a pretty good job at it.
That's really important to me.
I don't think the Note 10 has enough going for it for me to give up the portability.
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Just out of curiousity, what app do you think works best for OCR?

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Just out of curiousity, what app do you think works best for OCR?
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I use K9 mail, gmail, google Look and Docs to Go
They all work fine.

Samsung's Amazon entry for the Note 8 now has a '2013 Model' in the name. This makes me wonder if there will be a 2014 version later this year or early next year.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...sim_cps_8?ie=UTF8&refRID=0A9XB5X4X7AAAWHHVTRA

Shofar1 said:
Well it looks for sure that we will not get a new Note 8 model.
For those of us who love it, it is a big disappointment but I've read many places it didn't sell that well.
Somehow I don't believe that as 8 inch is the sweet spot in tablets and the stylus beats all the competition.
Has anyone gone to the Note 10 2014 or the Note 12.2?
What great advantage do they have?
They certainly don't have the portability and handiness of the Note 8.
I'd hate to see this line die, especially when Samsung is pumping out models like lab rats.
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The fact that it didn't sell well is obvious. It was released as a niche device for people who have use for a stylus, and cost $400 initially. It was never intended to sell well, nor was it intended to compete with other tabs on the market. If anybody bought it without a realistic need for a stylus, they did not do their homework and bought the wrong device.
Advantages of the newer tabs include CPU, screen, and battery. But you sacrifice portability. I have no use for a 10" tab personally, as it would not fit into my white coat.
But most importantly, what makes you say that there isn't going to be a new version? Just because it's not out yet doesn't mean much, unless Samsung actually says that it's being cancelled.