Decisions, decisions...... - Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti

I am getting a new tablet. I have a nexus 7 first edition. I also have a i717 note. My question is- Do I get a lte nexus 7 2013 (will run on tmo's free 200 mg for life) , or a wifi Note 8, or a wifi galaxy tab 3 8inch. Those are the 3 I have been looking into. Anyone want to share their opinion? Thanks.

sashusmom said:
I am getting a new tablet. I have a nexus 7 first edition. I also have a i717 note. My question is- Do I get a lte nexus 7 2013 (will run on tmo's free 200 mg for life) , or a wifi Note 8, or a wifi galaxy tab 3 8inch. Those are the 3 I have been looking into. Anyone want to share their opinion? Thanks.
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If it was me, it would be a binary decision. If you need S-Pen, Note 8. If not, then probably 8 in since I prefer that size. Plenty of threads talking about usefulness of the pen, but basically if you want to take notes, it's the only way to go, IMHO.
If you don't know if you need then pen, you probably don't.

esoh said:
If it was me, it would be a binary decision. If you need S-Pen, Note 8. If not, then probably 8 in since I prefer that size. Plenty of threads talking about usefulness of the pen, but basically if you want to take notes, it's the only way to go, IMHO.
If you don't know if you need then pen, you probably don't.
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I totally agree. The S pen is pure magic. It give like 40-50% added functionality to the note 8 along with multi-window. Without it, or if you don't need it, the note 8 is just simply overpriced....
If you do need the S-pen, I think the 8 inch size is the best form factor for portability and screen estate. The smaller phablets are just too small I think to adequately use the S-pen on a regular basis (unless you just like to scrible down mini notes) and the larger ones are just to cumbersome to carry around (unless you're a digital artist who really needs the canvas for sketches).

Thank you guys. I think you helped me make up my mind. I have had the original Note i717 for almost 2 years and hardly ever used that pen. I am looking more for easy portability so even though I do love the bigger screen, I think the way to go for me is the 7 inch. Just seems more pocketable and an easier throw in the purse and go gadget. I do appreciate your thoughts though. Thanks for sharing.

For me I wanted a phone dialer which ruled out the Nexus and gave me the choice of Samsung or the ASUS Fonepad.. I don't have any doubt that if you don't need a dialer, and don't need an SPen the Nexus 7 is the best value small tablet out there. The Galaxy Tabs are good vale and nice enough tablets, but not up to the Note 8 even without the spen. The main reason to get a Note 8 though as to be the spen.

@ Richard d- Does the note8 have a phone dialer??? You can make calls on the us version?? or Wifi over voip? Thanks!

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@ Richard d- Does the note8 have a phone dialer??? You can make calls on the us version?? or Wifi over voip? Thanks!
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I'm in the UK, but yes the 3G europe versions have a phone dialer, just like the 3G tabs - works just like any mobile phone (albeit a little on the large size ).

The US versions of the Note have the telephone capability removed. They are WiFi only, or LTE equipped (AT&T branded). They can only make phone calls via VoIP. The international versions of Samsung tablets are essentially smartphones.
I use a Note 8 N5100 as my phone on AT&T's network (it also works on T-Mobile). Since it's not designed to work in the US, it only has the HSPA frequencies not LTE. This works fine in my world, I value phone functionality more than download speed bragging rights.
That said, the Note 8 is really large for a daily driver. Unless you carry a purse or other bag with you as a constant companion, it's a little inconvenient when it comes to portability. A 7 inch tablet would be significantly easier to fit into my wardrobe. But that extra 1" fundamentally changes how apps work. The difference is not trivial: 7“ is essentially a large phone, while 8“ functions as a small tablet. To really see the impact of this, visit a store and check out the Tab 7 and Tab 8 side by side. For me, having the extra real estate is worth the hassle 99% of the time. The other 1% of the time, I have my number forwarded to a flip phone on a 2¢ min plan.
There are 7" tablets with telephony. The Asus Fonepad and Samsung Tab 7 (international version). Both can be had for significantly less than the Note 8.

I don't know why people keep comparing the Note 8 to the Nexus 7, then claim the Note 8 is overpriced. The Note 8 screen is larger, that in itself makes it cost more. The Note 8 also has more features than the Nexus 7 does. I own both and much prefer the Note 8. The pen is used for more than just writing also, plus its stored inside the tablet itself so its always there when you want it.
The Note 8 also is *not* large. You might as well use a phone if you want something smaller.
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I don't know why people keep comparing the Note 8 to the Nexus 7, then claim the Note 8 is overpriced. The Note 8 screen is larger, that in itself makes it cost more. The Note 8 also has more features than the Nexus 7 does. I own both and much prefer the Note 8. The pen is used for more than just writing also, plus its stored inside the tablet itself so its always there when you want it.
The Note 8 also is *not* large. You might as well use a phone if you want something smaller.
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The price is actually close at the moment. The wifi Note 8 was just $30 more than the LTE nexus. But if you compare wifi to wifi, it is a lot more $$. If I don't like my Nexus 7, that's my next one to try. I was looking for smaller portability. But that 8 inch screen was very nice.
I went for the Nexus!

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I don't know why people keep comparing the Note 8 to the Nexus 7, then claim the Note 8 is overpriced. The Note 8 screen is larger, that in itself makes it cost more. The Note 8 also has more features than the Nexus 7 does. I own both and much prefer the Note 8. The pen is used for more than just writing also, plus its stored inside the tablet itself so its always there when you want it.
The Note 8 also is *not* large. You might as well use a phone if you want something smaller.
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I never said the Note 8 was overpriced, I paid $570 for my N5100, and it was worth every penny. There is not another tablet on the market that I would prefer. That said, the Note 8 is significantly more expensive than the Nexus 7. In my opinion, the size difference is significant, and the Nexus 7 can be more easily accommodated than Note 8 for people that do not use bags/purses/backpacks, etc. Still, I like the Note 8, it's my phone!

I just picked up the Note 8
I had to see what I would be missing, so Now I have the nexus 7 lte and the note 8. I have till Jan 14th to decide what I will be bringing back. Best Buys return policy is now on holiday return schedule if purchased after Nov. 3rd. Items need to be returned by Jan 14th.
There is a whole bunch of freebies with the Note 8 tablet- $25 google play credit, 3 months hulu plus credit, sat radio, etc. Link explains it.
http://www.samsung.com/us/register-for-your-galaxy-perks/#note-8-boingo

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Replace Nexus 7 with Note 2?

Hey everyone!
At the moment, I'm using Nexus S and Nexus 7 combo. Nexus S is getting too old to be on par with new software which lags, and since I have the I9023 version, it has SLCD display and camera wasn't as good even for the time when it came out.
So I was thinking, maybe I should sell both devices and add a bit more money to it, and get Note 2?
So I did the math
I lose:
- bigger N7's screen
- Nexus experience
- multiple devices option (battery saving and stuff)
- good reading experience on N7
I get:
- a single device on which everything is done
- Note experience
- by far a better camera
- Super AMOLED display
So I need your opinion, I hope this isn't getting way too boring for you (these questions), does it pay out, since I'd really like Note 2.
I own both, and I hardly use my Nexus 7 now Depends on your usage though, you must already be aware that screen size is significantly smaller - but it's significantly better device in all other respects, and much easier to hold than a tablet obviously. For me, N2 hits the sweet spot. And obviously there's S Pen, which you may or may not use - I do use it a lot for browsing and typing especially.
I just switched from Nexus 7 + Lumia 800 to Note 2. I am very happy with the change. The Nexus was great, I loved it, but I had to carry two devices. Now it is perfect.
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the google experience is very beautifull, but it is too thin, too poor of features and uncared for in my opinion, the only good thing is lightening fast updates.
For the rest I sold the Nexus 7 as soon as I took notes 2 and I decided to buy 10.1 Notes and Notes 2 and now I feel really good xD
Get a note 8... best of note 2 in a bigger size. .phone calling included
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Note 8 isn't a phone. It's still a tablet with call facility. Obviously if that's what he's looking for then Note 8's the better choice obviously.
Dzong said:
the google experience is very beautifull, but it is too thin, too poor of features and uncared for in my opinion, the only good thing is lightening fast updates.
For the rest I sold the Nexus 7 as soon as I took notes 2 and I decided to buy 10.1 Notes and Notes 2 and now I feel really good xD
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Exactly. But honestly, that is why we have this forum, I can always try some ROM of new Android which is not yet available for Note.
I don't think I'll get Note 8, I can't really carry it around everywhere I go. I'll go for Note 2, already sold my racket I don't use that much, so I need to sell my NS and N7 and that's it.
Question though! Reason I was hesitating was big screen for gaming, and then it hit me - Note does have HDMI output right? So can I fire up say, Asphalt 7 and hook it up to TV, and then just use my phone as a controller?
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Exactly. But honestly, that is why we have this forum, I can always try some ROM of new Android which is not yet available for Note.
I don't think I'll get Note 8, I can't really carry it around everywhere I go. I'll go for Note 2, already sold my racket I don't use that much, so I need to sell my NS and N7 and that's it.
Question though! Reason I was hesitating was big screen for gaming, and then it hit me - Note does have HDMI output right? So can I fire up say, Asphalt 7 and hook it up to TV, and then just use my phone as a controller?
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If the nexus experience is not that important to you then by all means get the note2. Touchwiz is actually bearable and useful on the mote2. Very optimized hardware, software is pretty good and optimized, battery life can't be beat, screen is friggin' awesome especially movie mode for the accuracy, reception is actually pretty dang awesome for a Samsung phone, it is easier to hold than a 7" tablet, the interchangeable battery and expandable storage etc etc...
Yes, there is video out through mhl. I highly recommend getting the official OEM accessories to do it, and there are different methods of getting it like the smart dock, adapters or straight mhl to HDMI cable. I haven't tried games yet, but you might want to consider the input lag that might or might not be there. Video though looks great.
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Good to see I'm not the only one with N7 and SGNII I have both devices and don't carry my N7 as much as I used to, but I love it and use it at home, since it's much more convenient, bigger screen, etc. Note II is BIG, but not as big as N7
I had an n7 too, but no longer. The screen is bigger, but I found that the superior display quality of the note 2 factors in in the reading experience. An even better example is my Transformer Pad, which has such an abysmal display compared to the note 2, that I almost read better on my phone in spite of it being a fourth of the screen size.
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I would better have note 10.1 with note 2, experience of both tablets and phablets world
I have Note 2 and Note 8 and I'm thinking of selling the Note 8 as I hardly ever use it.
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[Q] Note 8 or Keep Nexus 10 ?

Hi all,
Having been a Nexus 10 user since March having switched from a Note 10.1 I now have a craving for going to a Note 8!. I now carry my N10 around even less, it now mainly stays at home, now that I have got a Samsung Chromebook 3G which I carry to & use at work on a daily basis, so I would like a smaller tablet to replace my N10 as I also miss the S-Pen. My plan is to use the Note 8 as a sat nav / music player in my car for the days when I drive in to work and use it for magazine / document reading for the days when I take the train instead, which I can just throw into my bag along with the Chromebook.
This would also make me a Samsung fanboy by having a Note 8, Chromebook & SGS3
What do you guys think to this combination of devices, or what do you carry around on a daily basis?.
The Note 8 has more features by way of hardware but you lose the flash. It has a lower screen resolution but the screen still looks nice and bright. Battery life is great with the 4.2.2 update (leaked) even with the S Pen. The S Pen is certainly the most interesting part of the device, it doesn't feel too flimsy but maybe a little cheap. As far as whether to upgrade or not, it's all up to you, but if you get the Note 8 you get more portability and a quad core processor. Even though the price is notably high for a device of this size you'll hopefully find the extra features will be worth it.
Cheers, 64kb
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Switched from n10 to note 8 3 weeks ago, and I really don't regret it at all. 8 inches feel much better, and I really really like the spen features. Tbh, I use tablets only in university, but taking notes is much easier with the note. I think the n10 still is the better device for multimedia purposes, but I never used that anyway. And I really prefer 8 inches compared to 10. I think 8 is just the perfect size for a tablet. Ofc, everything depends on your personal preferences
Multimedia -> n10
Reading, writing, mobility -> note8
I really don't see a reason you need a Note 8 if all your doing is nav, music, etc. in the car. If you didn't find a reason to keep the Note 10 then the Note 8 probably would not get you anything more unless you want a bit smaller tablet.
The resolution of the Nexus would be nice to have in car as well I think. Sounds like you just want something new to play with. :good:
I was thinking of returning my Note 8 and picking up a N10... I like the spen but it feels like something I won't use longterm.
I have a N10 that I love and just got a AT&T Note 8. I'm partial to the Note being a Sammy fan myself (and having the 10.1 before the N10), but no root/recovery/roms is killing me. If development doesn't pick up soon I'm going to have to trade this I467 for a wifi version or give it to the wifey and trade the N10.
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I really don't see a reason you need a Note 8 if all your doing is nav, music, etc. in the car. If you didn't find a reason to keep the Note 10 then the Note 8 probably would not get you anything more unless you want a bit smaller tablet.
The resolution of the Nexus would be nice to have in car as well I think. Sounds like you just want something new to play with. :good:
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unless you want to use it specifically for note taking and / or drawing you would be better off saving your money and going for a non stylus enabled tablet. The new nexus 7 looks pretty swish.
My Note 8.0 makes a great travel companion and I use it as sat nav / in car entertainment on my journeys. During those periods though I have no use for the S Pen.
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For Magazines the 8inch form factor is good, I dont like it for comics / graphic novels though and would recommend continuing to purchase physical copies or a 10 inch tablet for those.

[Q] Note 8 - A tablet or a phone?

Hi guys, sorry if this has already been asked, but I have searched, and searched, and searched for the answer to no avail.....
Does the Note 8 run tablet apps or phone apps? - mainly interested in document editing for revision and general notes etc. that is, is the note 8 a big Note 2/3 or a little Note 10.1
Reason I'm asking is I'm trying to decide between 2014 10.1 and, to me, the more useful note 8 (portability is a big thing), I'm heavily invested in android phone apps and like the functionality but need a bit more productivity potential - Note 2 is just too small for my uses. The 10.1 2014 looks perfect for what I need - other than the size, if the note 8 is close, software wise, that would be the perfect device for me. Screen res doesn't really matter too much as I'm fairly happy with the low res ipad2 and both Are better!
I've got a Note 2 and use it in preference to my ipad 2 for note taking But I'm a bit fed up with the fact that in S-Note, when exported, the font has to be really big (so that you can read it on the note 2). Most of my reading is done on the ipad (size does matter sometimes) but that is all, so I tend to write on Note 2 and export for reading (revision) to an app called Notability (which I dearly wish would come to android). I think, correct me if I'm wrong, I'll be able to write smaller relative to the page on either the note 8 or 10.1, and hence exports will be better proportioned
Ultimately, I'm looking to dump the ipad for one device just having difficulty deciding which (and learn to give up notability and clash of clans lol)
Looking forward to the day that samsung release a program that allows you to properly sync s-note to PC as well - very surprised this hasn't happened yet!
Thanks for your time, if this IS a repeated question, direction to an answer. The question is are the apps tablet or phone, the rest is just a bit of background so you know why I'm asking, sorry if I waffle
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Hi guys, sorry if this has already been asked, but I have searched, and searched, and searched for the answer to no avail.....
Does the Note 8 run tablet apps or phone apps? - mainly interested in document editing for revision and general notes etc. that is, is the note 8 a big Note 2/3 or a little Note 10.1
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It's a big phone
EmergencyMedic said:
Hi guys, sorry if this has already been asked, but I have searched, and searched, and searched for the answer to no avail.....
Does the Note 8 run tablet apps or phone apps? - mainly interested in document editing for revision and general notes etc. that is, is the note 8 a big Note 2/3 or a little Note 10.1
Reason I'm asking is I'm trying to decide between 2014 10.1 and, to me, the more useful note 8 (portability is a big thing), I'm heavily invested in android phone apps and like the functionality but need a bit more productivity potential - Note 2 is just too small for my uses. The 10.1 2014 looks perfect for what I need - other than the size, if the note 8 is close, software wise, that would be the perfect device for me. Screen res doesn't really matter too much as I'm fairly happy with the low res ipad2 and both Are better!
I've got a Note 2 and use it in preference to my ipad 2 for note taking But I'm a bit fed up with the fact that in S-Note, when exported, the font has to be really big (so that you can read it on the note 2). Most of my reading is done on the ipad (size does matter sometimes) but that is all, so I tend to write on Note 2 and export for reading (revision) to an app called Notability (which I dearly wish would come to android). I think, correct me if I'm wrong, I'll be able to write smaller relative to the page on either the note 8 or 10.1, and hence exports will be better proportioned
Ultimately, I'm looking to dump the ipad for one device just having difficulty deciding which (and learn to give up notability and clash of clans lol)
Looking forward to the day that samsung release a program that allows you to properly sync s-note to PC as well - very surprised this hasn't happened yet!
Thanks for your time, if this IS a repeated question, direction to an answer. The question is are the apps tablet or phone, the rest is just a bit of background so you know why I'm asking, sorry if I waffle
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The Note 8.0 with 3G or LTE can be used as a phone without any trouble, as long as you dont mind looking like a strange person with a 8 inch phone to your ear (or just use a headset ). It does not have a tablet UI, since the notificationbar comes down from the top, not the lower right corner.
As for the S-Note parts, i write in handwriting on the Note 8.0 and when i had the ported S-Note for my S3 i had no trouble reading the notes on that screen, even tho its smaller than the Note II with the same resolution.
I say dump the iPad for notes and such, and keep playing the games that are there, cuz there are some nice ones, like Clash of Clans
Slipurson said:
The Note 8.0 with 3G or LTE can be used as a phone without any trouble, as long as you dont mind looking like a strange person with a 8 inch phone to your ear (or just use a headset ). It does not have a tablet UI, since the notificationbar comes down from the top, not the lower right corner.
As for the S-Note parts, i write in handwriting on the Note 8.0 and when i had the ported S-Note for my S3 i had no trouble reading the notes on that screen, even tho its smaller than the Note II with the same resolution.
I say dump the iPad for notes and such, and keep playing the games that are there, cuz there are some nice ones, like Clash of Clans
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Yeah, at native size the s-note files are fine. Unfortunately most of my notes were originally in iPad Natability format - these can be exported as PDF but need to zoom to read - a right royal pain in the ... Good to know 8 has better result
Wasn't going to use 8 as a phone, got note II for that, but good to know it uses the phone apps - all I want really is a bigger note II as it works well for me. Time to squirrel away a little pennies (and persuade the better half she really wants an ipad 2 lol)
An apology in advance - just seen post saying don't post questions in this section - SORRY, my bad
Lesson learned, won't happen again
Slipurson said:
The Note 8.0 with 3G or LTE can be used as a phone without any trouble, as long as you dont mind looking like a strange person with a 8 inch phone to your ear (or just use a headset ).
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there's a bluetooth pen for the galaxy note 10.1 that could be used with this device also. it acts as an s-pen and a bluetooth phone receiver.
madsquabbles said:
there's a bluetooth pen for the galaxy note 10.1 that could be used with this device also. it acts as an s-pen and a bluetooth phone receiver.
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Nice, could that not be used with the other notes too?
i'd say yes since it just uses bluetooth to connect.
Its working as both. Phone and tablet. As some of my tablet only apps like sketch tablet edition can be use in note 8.0
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Its working as both. Phone and tablet. As some of my tablet only apps like sketch tablet edition can be use in note 8.0
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Interesting, wonder what other "tablet format" apps work on 8 (without root)
I'm not an expert but I think the Note 8 works fine as both phone and tablet.
I will get a phone SIM in a few days and see how it works. I have had a data only and this is fine.
Notifications coming from top keeps the eco system right with our phones. Actually I like it better on the top.
Whatever programs that I used on my ThinkPad Tablet seem to work fine on the Note.
I do email, read (Kindle), movies and have just installed Documents to Go which is my big productivity suite.
The OCR is very good and much faster for me that "typing" on the tablet.
I think the Note 8 is a winner though 32/64 GB RAM should have been stock.
I'm assuming you live in the US. There are different versions of the Note 8, some have built in telephony. The N5100 is basically an 8 inch smartphone. Its not carrier supported but works on T-mobile and ATT HSPA network. The SCH i467 is sold by ATT and works on their LTE network. It has the telephony capabilities removed, phone calling can only be done using VoIP. There are other models of the Note 8, but these two are the best choices for the US.
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I'm assuming you live in the US. There are different versions of the Note 8, some have built in telephony. The N5100 is basically an 8 inch smartphone. Its not carrier supported but works on T-mobile and ATT HSPA network. The SCH i467 is sold by ATT and works on their LTE network. It has the telephony capabilities removed, phone calling can only be done using VoIP. There are other models of the Note 8, but these two are the best choices for the US.
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I live in Israel and I bought my Note8 in Germany.
I expect it to work as a phe too.
It's a tablet
Mine is both. LTE for fast data and full telephony here in Oz.
Galaxy Note 8.0 Xposed Build JDQ39.N5120XXCMG7 / Baseband N5120XXBMD9 / Kernel CivZ-SpherEngine-Rev1.2 on Telstra LTE
Because the Note 8 has the button in portrait mode apps seem to display more like a phone.
I had the same question recently, and this is what I've discovered.
Android basically has 3 types of interfaces.
There is the phone interface, the small tablet interface, and the full tablet interface.
If you look at the Nexus 4, 7, and 10, you can see the differences. The Nexus 7 interface is kind of a blend between the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 10. There are some features and programs that look like the phone interface, and other features and programs that use the full tablet interface.
As an 8 inch tablet, the Galaxy Note 8.0 uses the "small tablet" interface that the Nexus 7 does.

[Q] Is the Note 8 worth the money now?

So, basically, I'm in the process of quitting smoking. As a "congratulations" type gift, my parents are purchasing me a tablet. I'm stuck choosing between the Nexus 7 (2013) and the Galaxy Note 8.0 right now. I already know the Nexus is worth the money, but I like the features and such on the Note.
If you saw my other thread asking about ROMs for a Note, that was part of trying to make my decision. Now that I've seen that I can keep the functionality, gain some more, and improve performance, I have to decide if it's going to be it or the Nexus.
At $330, is the Galaxy Note 8.0 worth the money at this point in its life cycle? Please try to avoid just straight yes or no answers, I would love you to elaborate. I know it also depends what I'm using it for, so just assume that I like to draw, am not fantastic at it but it's a fun hobby, and I would make use of the office suite included.
I had the Note 8.0 and the Nexus 7 2013. The Note 8.0 has much ore functionality and a MicroSD slot. The Nexus has the better screen. They are similar speed wise. Best Buy has the Note 8.0 for $299 right now. I assume because the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 launched last week. I like Multiwindow of the Note also.
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I had the Note 8.0 and the Nexus 7 2013. The Note 8.0 has much ore functionality and a MicroSD slot. The Nexus has the better screen. They are similar speed wise. Best Buy has the Note 8.0 for $299 right now. I assume because the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 launched last week. I like Multiwindow of the Note also.
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Thanks very much for your input. At Best Buy here, the Note 8.0 is $330, but I'm Canadian so that's just the crappy exchange rate.
I've done extensive reading on both of these tablets, and that's something that really stood out, just how much more functionality the Note has over the Nexus. The SD card slot is a huge thing, too. Being able to spend $40 and slap a 64gb class 10 MicroSD card in it would be nice. Speed wise, I heard TouchWiz can be laggy, get hung up here and there, but that custom ROMs fix that with improved performance, removing some bloatware, etc.
As it stands, I'm still slightly on the fence between the two, but I'm leaning toward the Note. I figure I don't need to make this thread in the Nexus forums, because I already know the Nexus is worth the money (minus that there's no SD card slot) and it's got its own advantages. I'm glad the Note 8.0 community is willing to give me some insight
Amazon has refurbished models for $250US.
IMHO, the only reason to chose a Note 8.0 over a Nexus 7 is the stylus/handwriting recognition. it's what makes the Note truly unique the 7-8" tablet range. If pen computing is 'nice, but not essential', then go with the Nexus 7. It's cheaper, a better screen, just as powerful, and slightly better battery life. The speakers suck compared to the Note, but then most people use headphones or powered speakers than listen to the tablet 'naked'.
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Amazon has refurbished models for $250US.
IMHO, the only reason to chose a Note 8.0 over a Nexus 7 is the stylus/handwriting recognition. it's what makes the Note truly unique the 7-8" tablet range. If pen computing is 'nice, but not essential', then go with the Nexus 7. It's cheaper, a better screen, just as powerful, and slightly better battery life. The speakers suck compared to the Note, but then most people use headphones or powered speakers than listen to the tablet 'naked'.
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Thanks muchly for your input! From what I've heard, the speakers on the Note 8.0 are pretty crap, very tinny. That's not much of a concern though because, as you said, headphones or external speakers are what I'd be using when I'm using it for movies or music.
For me, the advantages from the stylus are that I can use it to draw, to learn to draw because kindergarten kids probably do better work lol, and various small functions like improved web browsing and such. I've also got a thing for teaching myself random things because... well... I'm a nerd lol, so the S pen will be good for general stylus uses in that regard as well, like highlighting, etc.
Now, one thing I've noticed is people talk so much about how the Nexus 7 has a much better display and that text is hard to read on the Note 8.0. However... if you look at reviews from before the Nexus 7 or iPad Mini Retina came out, you see everybody saying how nice the display looks and how easy it is to read all sizes of text. To me, that says that focusing on the resolution and the PPI is more a marketing scheme than anything. Don't get me wrong, the Nexus 7 and iPad Mini Retina DO have sharper screens, the numbers don't lie, but the people talking about those numbers tend to exaggerate just how much a difference it is.
I have the note and my wife has the nexus. I much prefer my note over hers. The extra inch of screen males a huge difference. I also use the pen a lot at work highlighting material, writing logs but mostly writing on pictures.
The resolution on the nexus is better but the functionality of the pen makes this the tablet to have IMHO.
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Well I paid half price before Christmas for a new boxed 5110 and in January half price for a new boxed SGH-i467. Could not touch those deals with any other product that is like the Note 8.0. Though there is not many like it to choose from.
Well, it's decided! You've all helped me solidify my thoughts about the Note 8.0, I'm not just crazy and making myself think it's good. That's what I'm getting then! I'll just have to figure out how to get updates manually, since in Canada we don't seem to get them very fast. From what I've heard, we don't even have 4.2.2 available for OTA updates here.
If I were buying a tablet now, I'd highly consider the Tab Pro 8.4, which was just released in the US yesterday for $399.
It looks to be everything the Note 8 is, except with a much nicer screen and an updated processor; but no pen. Although personally, I found I don't even use the pen on the N8.
The N8 is a great tablet, and I use it every day, sometimes for hours. But its getting close to last gen specs, having been released April 2013. And I typically don't recommend buying last gen technology.
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If I were buying a tablet now, I'd highly consider the Tab Pro 8.4, which was just released in the US yesterday for $399.
It looks to be everything the Note 8 is, except with a much nicer screen and an updated processor; but no pen. Although personally, I found I don't even use the pen on the N8.
The N8 is a great tablet, and I use it every day, sometimes for hours. But its getting close to last gen specs, having been released April 2013. And I typically don't recommend buying last gen technology.
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I would certainly consider the Tab Pro 8.4, but my problem is price. I'm stuck with a firm $350 price limit (tax not included), and it's unfortunate because an extra $50 would open up my options immensely, but beggars can't be choosers right?
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I would certainly consider the Tab Pro 8.4, but my problem is price. I'm stuck with a firm $350 price limit (tax not included), and it's unfortunate because an extra $50 would open up my options immensely, but beggars can't be choosers right?
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You should have quit smoking earlier, then you would have plenty of money (those things are expensive!!!).
But seriously, I realize everyone has different budget requirements (one of the main reasons your question "is the N8 worth the money" is ultimately a decision only you can make). But to me, an extra $100 to get the new generation hardware (versus something almost a year old), is a bargain. Although if you think you will use the pen, that is obviously a consideration as well.
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You should have quit smoking earlier, then you would have plenty of money (those things are expensive!!!).
But seriously, I realize everyone has different budget requirements (one of the main reasons your question "is the N8 worth the money" is ultimately a decision only you can make). But to me, an extra $100 to get the new generation hardware (versus something almost a year old), is a bargain. Although if you think you will use the pen, that is obviously a consideration as well.
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Fair point. I appreciate the input!
Like nrage, I had both at the holidays. First I had the new Nexus 7 lte, and I was wondering what I might be missing with the note 8, so I bought one of them and compared. I kept the Note 8 simply due to the larger screen, and the sd card slot. I figured, I can always tether for data, and I didn't see much difference in the screens side by side, or the audio side by side.
Also, the Note 8 will be getting kitkat 4.4.
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Like nrage, I had both at the holidays. First I had the new Nexus 7 lte, and I was wondering what I might be missing with the note 8, so I bought one of them and compared. I kept the Note 8 simply due to the larger screen, and the sd card slot. I figured, I can always tether for data, and I didn't see much difference in the screens side by side, or the audio side by side.
Also, the Note 8 will be getting kitkat 4.4.
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I was kind of having the same thoughts. I recently saw a Note 8.0 and a Nexus 7 in a local computer store, and the screens aren't that different in quality. In fact, I liked the Note screen better, because it was bigger and more accurate with colors, and still very clear. The SD card slot is a big thing too, that's for sure. As for the Note 8.0 getting KitKat, that's a good thing I suppose. I don't know that it'll improve it much, or how long it'll take before we get it in Canada (we still don't have 4.2.2 on Note 8.0 here, I believe), but one can hope.
I wish you woud have posted this back in August. I bought my note 8 from staples for $240 with tax and be honest the note 8 is going to updated to kitkat soon.
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evolishesh said:
I wish you woud have posted this back in August. I bought my note 8 from staples for $240 with tax and be honest the note 8 is going to updated to kitkat soon.
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$240? I wish. For some reason, everybody appears to have RAISED their price on it today. From a business standpoint, that doesn't make sense.
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$240? I wish. For some reason, everybody appears to have RAISED their price on it today. From a business standpoint, that doesn't make sense.
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Trust me. They had it for $299-75 dollars coupon, plus taxes. It all came out to $240.
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For someone who just bought this note yesterday l will say it is worth the money as there are no other Comparable tablet you can find and left for a hander the handwriting recognition is superb.
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For someone who just bought this note yesterday l will say it is worth the money as there are no other Comparable tablet you can find and left for a hander the handwriting recognition is superb.
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Thanks muchly for the input! I've been wondering about that handwriting recognition thing, even though I probably won't use it that much. In case I do end up using that feature, it's good to know it works well!
@ ArobeeTV- I forgot!!!!! A huge :highfive: and congratulations on quitting smoking. You won't be sorry:victory: Since your parents are buying your tablet, I will assume you are young enough to be able to heal all your lung tissue and have a healthy life!
My mom smoked her whole life. I fought with her to quit since I was 16. She died of a heart attack. Lung cancer doesn't always get you. For her it was periph. artery disease- she couldn't walk more than 20 feet at once, and emphysema, and a clogged heart that got her in the end. Very poor quality of life for her last 10 years. :crying: I am a nurse and witnessed an autopsy of a smoker with lung cancer. Very ugly.
OK. I'm done with my speech!
Please keep up the good work and be healthy while you use your shiny new tablet!! Whatever one you choose.

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Well it looks for sure that we will not get a new Note 8 model.
For those of us who love it, it is a big disappointment but I've read many places it didn't sell that well.
Somehow I don't believe that as 8 inch is the sweet spot in tablets and the stylus beats all the competition.
Has anyone gone to the Note 10 2014 or the Note 12.2?
What great advantage do they have?
They certainly don't have the portability and handiness of the Note 8.
I'd hate to see this line die, especially when Samsung is pumping out models like lab rats.
Shofar1 said:
Well it looks for sure that we will not get a new Note 8 model.
For those of us who love it, it is a big disappointment but I've read many places it didn't sell that well.
Somehow I don't believe that as 8 inch is the sweet spot in tablets and the stylus beats all the competition.
Has anyone gone to the Note 10 2014 or the Note 12.2?
What great advantage do they have?
They certainly don't have the portability and handiness of the Note 8.
I'd hate to see this line die, especially when Samsung is pumping out models like lab rats.
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The 10.1 I used to have and went back to the note 8. Mostly for portability. I am TEMPTED to try the 8.4 pro with this stylys Apex Fine Point
It works REALLY well with the Nexus 7. Only draw back is no holder on the 8.4
lp894 said:
The 10.1 I used to have and went back to the note 8. Mostly for portability. I am TEMPTED to try the 8.4 pro with this stylys Apex Fine Point
It works REALLY well with the Nexus 7. Only draw back is no holder on the 8.4
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But does it do OCR?
With the Note 8, all the programs - sorry apps, that I use the Note converts my writing to text and does a pretty good job at it.
That's really important to me.
I don't think the Note 10 has enough going for it for me to give up the portability.
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But does it do OCR?
With the Note 8, all the programs - sorry apps, that I use the Note converts my writing to text and does a pretty good job at it.
That's really important to me.
I don't think the Note 10 has enough going for it for me to give up the portability.
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The 10.1 does have OCR and the handwriting recognition is much better. The S-Pen also feels much better with writing with it. It there was a note 8(or 8.4) with the same breed of Android that is on the 10.1 I would throw the note 8 in the trash lol
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The 10.1 does have OCR and the handwriting recognition is much better. The S-Pen also feels much better with writing with it. It there was a note 8(or 8.4) with the same breed of Android that is on the 10.1 I would throw the note 8 in the trash lol
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I would certainly go for a Note 8.4 but I would never through my faithful Note 8 in the trash.
It would be a great gift for someone.
Maybe I am missing the point... the 10.1 2013 edition is lacking power. As for the 2014 edition it is quite the tablet, but if I were to get anything larger than 9 inches, I would go for a 12" tablet that ran a full OS, not Android. No, I am not an Android hater, just when you play with phablets, you get android, mostly because of the lack of storage space. With a true tablet, storage space should not be an issue for a full fledged OS.
Because I see the Note 8.0 tablet as an in between of sorts, my expectations are minimal. Given that the stock firmware works pretty darn good, having an S-pen, hand writing capabilities, and Samsung search functions that are lightning fast over Google's. The only issue I see is Androids inability to automatically sync time from the internet. Though there are apps for that. If there are any complaints about the Note 8.0 not meeting expectations, then the end user should have found what he or she wanted in the first place.
I waited a year for something like the Note 8.0, and knew once I had it something else would have something that the Note 8.0 did not have. I purchased mine knowing its limitations, as they did not matter.
Since Samsung has released the Tab pro 8.0 does it make me want one... No. Nor will any other tablet that has an 8 inch screen, well until this tablet becomes faulty, then there will be time for replacing.
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I would certainly go for a Note 8.4 but I would never through my faithful Note 8 in the trash.
It would be a great gift for someone.
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I agree. I've been using the N5100 as my phone and tablet, and even though I think I'm going to purchase a new phone, I've gotta keep this as a tablet. Using S-Note for taking notes in meetings has totally spoiled me.
Shame that sammy hasn't re-upped with a 2014 version, but I'll be keeping my Note 8 for reading epubs and taking notes.
I'm as much a "new tech whore" as anyone on XDA (11 tabs over the past 12-14 months) and have come to the conclusion that there never will be a "OneSize Fits All" tab. Having had tabs from 7 to 10.1 inches, for overall usefulness, the GNote8 works best for me. Sure, it ain't perfect. Nothing is. And yes, I was tempted to score the GNote 8 Pro but the lack of SPen/digitizer was a deal breaker. For me at least. The GNote8 does all I require when I require. If I need a Windows tab the Dell 8 Pro serves me well.
We may well be seeing the winding down of significant upgrades in the tablet form factor. Minor tweaks and cosmetic adjustments might be what's in store. Do I need the "latest and greatest"? Nah. Find what works for you and just enjoy!
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But does it do OCR?
With the Note 8, all the programs - sorry apps, that I use the Note converts my writing to text and does a pretty good job at it.
That's really important to me.
I don't think the Note 10 has enough going for it for me to give up the portability.
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Just out of curiousity, what app do you think works best for OCR?
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Just out of curiousity, what app do you think works best for OCR?
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I use K9 mail, gmail, google Look and Docs to Go
They all work fine.
Samsung's Amazon entry for the Note 8 now has a '2013 Model' in the name. This makes me wonder if there will be a 2014 version later this year or early next year.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...sim_cps_8?ie=UTF8&refRID=0A9XB5X4X7AAAWHHVTRA
Shofar1 said:
Well it looks for sure that we will not get a new Note 8 model.
For those of us who love it, it is a big disappointment but I've read many places it didn't sell that well.
Somehow I don't believe that as 8 inch is the sweet spot in tablets and the stylus beats all the competition.
Has anyone gone to the Note 10 2014 or the Note 12.2?
What great advantage do they have?
They certainly don't have the portability and handiness of the Note 8.
I'd hate to see this line die, especially when Samsung is pumping out models like lab rats.
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The fact that it didn't sell well is obvious. It was released as a niche device for people who have use for a stylus, and cost $400 initially. It was never intended to sell well, nor was it intended to compete with other tabs on the market. If anybody bought it without a realistic need for a stylus, they did not do their homework and bought the wrong device.
Advantages of the newer tabs include CPU, screen, and battery. But you sacrifice portability. I have no use for a 10" tab personally, as it would not fit into my white coat.
But most importantly, what makes you say that there isn't going to be a new version? Just because it's not out yet doesn't mean much, unless Samsung actually says that it's being cancelled.

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