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500 mb free but space unavailable?

I've 500 mb odd free but I am getting insufficient storage while installing apps!! Anyone else seen this issue ?
I'm on bigxie rom 1.0.2 with Franco kernel 15.2 ...though I don't think it has anything to do with them..
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dhruvraj said:
I've 500 mb odd free but I am getting insufficient storage while installing apps!! Anyone else seen this issue ?
I'm on bigxie rom 1.0.2 with Franco kernel 15.2 ...though I don't think it has anything to do with them..
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What the hell is that miscellaneuous thing taking up 4.11gb?
That's why you have no space.

i would expect it disabled for a mobile phone, but ext4 allows reserving space for root. On desktop systems that setting is often at 5% of availible storage. As you got root i'd try to grab enough of the start of the raw partition where /data is saved on (or all if you have the space and time) to a linux system and run dumpe2fs on the raw file to see if that's enabled. In case you can change it with tune2fs, but you'd likely need that crossbuild for android.
It this is really the cause something you used to format/wipe /data is seriously bugged though.

... My GNX has 32 gigs. What are you doing with 13.3?
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GSM is 16GB
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... My GNX has 32 gigs. What are you doing with 13.3?
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I was thinking the same thing, though mine says 28.
Right, GSM has less.
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OK here is misc
cant understand why it says 500mb left and then can't install anything saying no space ? Wtf is that
Or is it that my app space is somehow limited to 2gigs even though that shouldn't be happening with nexus? I see I'm touching that already
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dhruvraj said:
OK here is misc
cant understand why it says 500mb left and then can't install anything saying no space ? Wtf is that
Or is it that my app space is somehow limited to 2gigs even though that shouldn't be happening with nexus? I see I'm touching that already
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Not entirely sure about why its protecting you from downloading more.
But to clean up that misc folder, why don't you delete those ROM .zip's? You surely don't need them after you've flashed, why are you holding onto them? That's 356mb right there. Also look into your Clockworkmod folder for downloads that you've drone via ROM manager and don't need anymore.

that's not a reply is it. I can clean up and delete files I dont use but that's besides the point
Why is 500mb showing free if I can't install anything?
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dhruvraj said:
that's not a reply is it. I can clean up and delete files I dont use but that's besides the point
Why is 500mb showing free if I can't install anything?
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Like I said, I don't know why its preventing you from downloading more, but while you try to figure it out, you can delete unused files and download apps again...

The first thing I would do is deleting the market app's cache and data in settings > apps > all. Then boot into recovery and wipe the /cache partitition. More often than not that resolves false "out of disk space" messages.

I did the market data delete and a full cache wipe through recovery
That doesn't work ... I've also started getting storage getting low messages in notification bar
I don't understand what the heck is 500 mb available showing for, if it is unusable?
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As seen in another thread you need to run Lucky Patcher. That fixes it.

I have this exact same issue floating around 500 meg free. Is it a set limit for other processes to be able to save stuff, eg camera pictures etc...?? Obviously if you ran it down to like 1 meg where would it save a photo?!
Coincidentally I'm on apex too.....

Avaliable Space is wrong. Need help

I know I'm a noob. I have looked over these forums for a long time. And I did use the search with little success. I even searched the mighty Google for help. But my phone shows that I only have 3.9gb free on storage in settings. And 6.7gb free in application manager. What is going on? Please see included pics.
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svtgod said:
I know I'm a noob. I have looked over these forums for a long time. And I did use the search with little success. I even searched the mighty Google for help. But my phone shows that I only have 3.9gb free on storage in settings. And 6.7gb free in application manager. What is going on? Please see included pics.
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Can you offer some more info like what Rom you are running etc?
My first suggestion is to do a full wipe and re-install the ROM. Most "quirky" errors are resolved by doing a full wipe and re-install.

Format the internal sd card and flash back to stock with odin. I had the same thing happen to me when I used that app2sd script
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svtgod said:
I know I'm a noob. I have looked over these forums for a long time. And I did use the search with little success. I even searched the mighty Google for help. But my phone shows that I only have 3.9gb free on storage in settings. And 6.7gb free in application manager. What is going on? Please see included pics.
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Some zip archive files as well as any cwm backups you may have will not show up on the internal storage reports. To get a good picture of your actual storage usage and available disk space you need disk storage analyzer app - I have seen a couple people here recommend one from the play store, I don't remember which it was though.
You can search for one or maybe someone who knows of a good one will pop in and say.
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I am so sorry. Phone is 100% stock AT&T 4.0.4 not rooted or anything. I'm sorry if this stuff seems elementary, but I came from a iPhone and I did mod and jailbreak and all that to it so I know my way around apple products but this phone has been a little bit of a learning curve. I just got sick of apples subpar hardware... So I moved to android.
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Format the internal sd card and flash back to stock with odin. I had the same thing happen to me when I used that app2sd script
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I can try that. But I never used app2sd.
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What you are seeing is the natural partitioning of your phone.
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What you are seeing is the natural partitioning of your phone.
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Ok I can accept that. But what is really the free space? It shows 12.05gb of space. I know the OS and other system type stuff is taking the other 4gb that would total the 16 of the phone. But even the math of the doesn't add up in settings/storage.
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Some zip archive files as well as any cwm backups you may have will not show up on the internal storage reports. To get a good picture of your actual storage usage and available disk space you need disk storage analyzer app - I have seen a couple people here recommend one from the play store, I don't remember which it was though.
You can search for one or maybe someone who knows of a good one will pop in and say.
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Just downloaded Storage Analyser from play store and it shows I have 7.9gb free. This is just a mess...
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The system partitions aren't represented in the storage manager. Reason being: you can't change it. It's only showing what you have available for apps and your own files.
No ROM I've seen will show the "full" storage.
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What's your average remaining memory at the end of the day?

As the title say, I usually get just about 500-700 MB left at the end of the day. That's without killing apps the whole day. Is that just fine?
Also why do RAM starts at 1750? I thought we have a 2Gb Ram? I'm on x14 Rom if that even mean anything. TIA.
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I think this way- unused RAM is wasted RAM I usually have 700-200 mb left. The 1.7gb is probably because some of it is allocated elsewhere? Not really sure..
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I don't look at it as wasted because it doesn't go anywhere if you don't use it. I just thought the phone starts to go laggy when you have almost used up most of it.
Can android OS sort of free some RAM by closing some apps that's been inactive for a long time automatically?
Maybe that function is there and I just don't know where to find it. A help will surely be appreciated.
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I think that if you feel like you've used your phone "regularly" and you still have 500-700mb at the end of the day, that's great!
Android does have some memory management, and unused ram is "wasted ram", but on earlier devices, the android system and a few apps would use a majority of the memory, and so to be able to use your memory with the apps you were using right then, you had to use some pretty aggressive memory management.
500mb is still a nice chunk of ram to have left over, in my opinion.

None my phone does not last till the night. Battery is very good for a phone this big but I am a very heavy user as well
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android memory management All you need to know
I did a quick search and this was first one that came up.. Leave android alone to manage itself . Killing apps and background processes in Android just causes the phone to work harder.
The above does not apply to bad or rogue apps that you have NOT USED or started.
read this post and you will understand why the above is VERY important on android .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023
There are thousands of other post about memory management.. Just use the search ...

jinda628 said:
As the title say, I usually get just about 500-700 MB left at the end of the day. That's without killing apps the whole day. Is that just fine?
Also why do RAM starts at 1750? I thought we have a 2Gb Ram? I'm on x14 Rom if that even mean anything. TIA.
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Look at that notification bar LOL
CARBON NIGHTLY | CABIN FEVER WHISKY

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Look at that notification bar LOL
CARBON NIGHTLY | CABIN FEVER WHISKY
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lol! I guess that's what's eating my mem up hehe.
Anyway, the phone is fine, just wanna know if the mem usage is normal.
Also why does my SS says 1750mb? I thought note 2's mem is 2gb?
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System processes and video card
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System processes and video card
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I see. So if I have this phone factory resetted/wiped without any user apps, I should have/see 1750gb remaining ideally?
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jinda628 said:
I see. So if I have this phone factory resetted/wiped without any user apps, I should have/see 1750gb remaining ideally?
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No.. android will pre load apps into ram.. It swaps them out for those used most by the user as time goes on. It will keep Most all the apps sitting in ram waiting . The cpu and system is designed to do this. Holding something in ram.Is less taxing on the batter and cpu cycles then it is releasing it and freeing ram..
in android / Linux FREE RAM IS WASTED RAM.. this is the part you are not understanding.. Android will use minimum of half the available ram at all times. If you kill process or remove one app . it will bring the next most used app up. KILLING apps or process from ram just makes your phone work harder and use more battery... Read Article. One more thing. Say you have 10 apps sitting in ram using 80% of your ram.. Then launch one games that needs 50%. android will shut down apps sitting in ram for the least used and provide to the Game..So killing off apps only cause the os to have to think about ram kill and launch apps. Not to mention it does not keep a accurate account of apps you do actually use the most. Working the cpu harder . there for using more battery ..

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jinda628 said:
I see. So if I have this phone factory resetted/wiped without any user apps, I should have/see 1750gb remaining ideally?
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No, because there are apps that run off the get go. Such things like the keyboard, launcher, etc. Those don't usually fall under system RAM.. so you'll never really have 1750 Mb free. The 1750 includes more than just user apps.
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[List] Must Have Nexus 7 Apps

I plan on transferring all of my apps and games over to my Nexus 7 with Paranoid Android ROM installed via Titanium Backup minus the Samsung only stuff in the coming days... figured I'd post this to give other people ideas about what to install on their amazing new devices since it can be time-consuming to search and navigate the market sometimes if you are new to the Android scene. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks!
Here are some screenshots of my Samsung Galaxy Note II smartphone as of 08.12.13. Four Apex Launcher Pro homescreens running in CleanROM V5.0 with Perseus Kernel V36.3... The screenshots include my most used and favorite apps somewhat sorted by category... have around 220 apps installed after months of stability and battery testing, but have narrowed it down to the best to be displayed on the 196 available spots due to the custom 7x7 grid... check it out if you need some new Android apps!

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RESERVED FOR OP... feel free to add additions to comment on your favorite apps in the comments or add some screenshots if you'd like. Thanks!

You "must have" all those? My only "must have" are:
1. SS Launcher
2. Naked Browser
3. K9 mail
(and XDA app, being 1 of 99 others)

Must have means apps you MUST have..
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In Android, there's no such thing as 'Must have'. There're always replacements.
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If we took all of the "Must Have" or "Best Of" threads, merged them, then moved them to the Trash....

I've never seen so many icons in a status bar
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Icon overload right there. How do you find anything?
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I have ocd to having a clean status bar all time. That's madness
App Dialer + Advanced Home Button. Simply the best thing you can have on android device.
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My must have app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.poopmap Poop Map
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Catchpen said:
My must have app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.poopmap Poop Map
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Even that app isn't as crappy as all of the "Must have apps" threads. I actually (used to) use a poop app, but now that I'm taking more regular fiber, I don't need to monitor it quite as much as I did a few years ago when I got, erm, backed up..
Is this thread derailed yet?

IMO the only must have app is play store y'know what Im sayin
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IMO the only must have app is play store y'know what Im sayin
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No sadly I have no idea what you're saying because that's dumb, without any other apps the tablet is useless.
If you mean, that you can get the other apps by downloading them, then your answer is retarded and contradicts itself.

xbt- said:
No sadly I have no idea what you're saying because that's dumb, without any other apps the tablet is useless.
If you mean, that you can get the other apps by downloading them, then your answer is retarded and contradicts itself.
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Actually his post is the only true and correct answer to 'what are the must have apps?' question. Everything else is opinion and personal preference.
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Actually his post is the only true and correct answer to 'what are the must have apps?' question. Everything else is opinion and personal preference.
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Well, if you want apps like AdAway, it was removed from the play store. You'll have to get it from F-Droid.
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Nice list there thats alot of apps and i thought what we get on stock with just the gapps was alot... lol. I always install AdAway first befor anything else and i replace Chrome with Dolphin and grab MX Player, ES File Explorer thats all i use i think the Play Store is my most used app lol im alwaus browsing but never installing

Nice collection!

Might as well scrap screencast, while your at it. It wont work on the N7. Not compatible with Tegra 2/3 devices.
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That's a lot of icons in the status bar, alone. All I have have is my book library, Google's music app, Sims freeplay, Tapatalk 4, Chrome, Instagram, & Pinterest. What you have is just madness:silly:

[GUIDE] 220 Elements Safe to Freeze in Titanium Backup 4.4.2 NE6

Root and "Titanium Backup" are needed to disable most of those.
This is how i run my Note on Stock ROM, those are the things i do not use, frees me like half a GB a RAM, saves battery and makes my phone snappier.
Please dont be dumb, if you use Calculator, dont freeze it... and more important, if you dont have another keyboard app installed, please do not freeze "Samsung Keyboard" lol use common sence please.
Those elements are safe to freeze, do not delete em, is diferend, some things are needed present when phone boots or it might get stuck in bootloop, but you can freeze all that, just leave whatever you use.
If you are just freezing, there is nothing that can be messed up, if you see something isnt working right of the apps you are using, just go and enable it back in TB.
Here is the list, 20 screenshots of the "FROZEN" list in Titanium Backup, "YouTube" is the 220th i didnt want to crop/upload a whole screenshot for just 1 element, i watch youtube on the browser.. dont see any use of the app:
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This is how my RAM looks right after my phone boots:
2GB of free RAM ! ask the guys on stock ROM Galaxy S5s how they feel lol, without debloat they are like 1.3GB / 1.8GB

What's battery life look like after doing this?
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b0bii said:
What's battery life look like after doing this?
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insanely good, will post later, as i just instaled the NE6 so everything is wiped clean including battery stats, need few cycles or recharging to be correct...
i can feel it very good

Thanks for this!

Nice thanks for this
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But isn't unused RAM wasted RAM? Or something like that ☺

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But isn't unused RAM wasted RAM? Or something like that ☺
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Only if you have nothing to use it for, like you
im showing theres a lot of RAM to be filled with usefull programs you use instead bloatware, as then everything would open much snappier and save battery, or if its filled half way with bloatware already Android will start closing your oldest open apps automaticly when there isnt enough RAM for all apps that are running...
and bloatware aways runs, so itll be the apps you installed to be closed..
Hope you get it
that is extreme Freeze tho, im just showing what CAN be frozen, so people arent afraid to do so when they wan to stop an element..

Nice

Thanks!!!
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Froze something makes the email app crash when you use the pull down notifications lol
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Froze something makes the email app crash when you use the pull down notifications lol
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CheesyNutz said:
Froze something makes the email app crash when you use the pull down notifications lol
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Did you freeze the magazine app that comes with touch wiz? I had similar issues before
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elosogrande7076 said:
Did you freeze the magazine app that comes with touch wiz? I had similar issues before
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just unfrose my magazine and unclick open with swipe up

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Froze something makes the email app crash when you use the pull down notifications lol
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you use diferend email account than gmail? did you freeze "Email" or "Exchange" ?
Gmail should not give you any problems with the above 220 elements frozen, i never used the other build in email app, so i cant be sure.

hristopelov said:
you use diferend email account than gmail? did you freeze "Email" or "Exchange" ?
Gmail should not give you any problems with the above 220 elements frozen, i never used the other build in email app, so i cant be sure.
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Nope Gmail is my main account
Did not freeze any of them
Did freeze magazine though
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Anything in here that might effect my gps?

vibrantliker said:
Anything in here that might effect my gps?
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I would like to know this as well, my gps won't work either

SuperSmashedBro said:
I would like to know this as well, my gps won't work either
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Mine ok soon as I went outside.

SuperSmashedBro said:
I would like to know this as well, my gps won't work either
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It should not be, ive done this with many phones few years back, this is mainly samsung bloatware, google services that i dont need i know they run whenever they want in the background, all the widgets, fonts, wallpapers you wont use so no need them been loaded in RAM, and some apps that arent OS effective..
still, unfreeze everything, and see if something that was frozen was your problem...