even the defy i had now have a cm11 build(pretty good even! they have 250+ ram free most stuff works)
and we dont get it on a great device such as out hox?
what is the status of trying and running the 4.4?
is the devices status that bad when it comes to new versions?(the defy dont even have an open bootloader, at all!)
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even the defy i had now have a cm11 build(pretty good even! they have 250+ ram free most stuff works)
and we dont get it on a great device such as out hox?
what is the status of trying and running the 4.4?
is the devices status that bad when it comes to new versions?(the defy dont even have an open bootloader, at all!)
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Well... Its been said a thousand times read through the general threads
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What always worried me about HoX development is that the hardware is very similar to the 3G nexus 7 2012 which gets its source code released,
i know there must be different things, different brand ram, the nexus 7 has a slower version of the Tegra 3, not sure if the radio, bluetooth and sensor chips are the same,
and the screen controller is clearly different.
Even the evita now has a cynaogenmod 11 build out
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Tegra . Tegra......
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Tegra . Tegra......
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... Amazing really. A couple posts above someone mentioned the nexus 7 has 4.4. Now suddenly the tegra chipset is the problem again. It is htc not releasing sources for **** sake people. Its no wonder we dont achieve anything as a whole.
We have thomy a great dev but his hands are tied without sources. We would be rockin cm11 for sure by now
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2011 Sony Ericsson Xperia Devices Taste Android 4.4 KitKat
Also xperia devices not have code from sony but the developers have only complicated by the codes and are 4.4 ///I'm with 3.8.0 kernel jb !!!
It not just kernel source I think...because it seem LG optimus 4x hd where have same chipset as us already have kit kat. Please let our dev focus on bringing stable 4.3 first.
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It not just kernel source I think...because it seem LG optimus 4x hd where have same chipset as us already have kit kat. Please let our dev focus on bringing stable 4.3 first.
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We don't need 4.3 the changes between 4.2.2.and 4.3 is to small we need the new 4.4 directly
One X seem be dead. Miui discontinued support for porting HOX on official site of Miui
Why not make a petition to get HTC releasing the kernel source code? I've already tell them on twitter to stop violating GPL
Or we will go with the old kernels if we want cm11. This could also happen
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Yeah, you're right, but this doesn't make any sense.
HTC have to release the source so the dev can work on it!
Damn you HTC, I'm glad you're failing.
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... Amazing really. A couple posts above someone mentioned the nexus 7 has 4.4. Now suddenly the tegra chipset is the problem again. It is htc not releasing sources for **** sake people. Its no wonder we dont achieve anything as a whole.
We have thomy a great dev but his hands are tied without sources. We would be rockin cm11 for sure by now
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Have you done ROM development on a new android release for a device?
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Have you done ROM development on a new android release for a device?
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No. Im just saying what the devs said. Waiting for sources
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No. Im just saying what the devs said. Waiting for sources
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The Motorola defy doesn't even have an open bootloader they use a software trick called 2ndinit to boot into a custom recovery.
I bet they don't have kernel source either yet they have come from 2.1 until 4.4 with a mere gingerbread base.
How comes can't we do the same trick?
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The Motorola defy doesn't even have an open bootloader they use a software trick called 2ndinit to boot into a custom recovery.
I bet they don't have kernel source either yet they have come from 2.1 until 4.4 with a mere gingerbread base.
How comes can't we do the same trick?
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Because as said devs are waiting for sources which means they want to use the new one because they are more updated as the old ones which means more customization. Something in that way. Nothing stays in the way using a old kernel though. But when new sources are released they need to port it again. Something in that way again
So nobody wants to work for free double time... Which is normal i guess
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Some time ago I read that HTC got no other choice besides releasing kernel source because of some legal stuff.
Is this true? If it is it's just a matter of time and we will definitely get the new kernel source and 4.4
Also we could use this argument to force HTC to release the source faster.
We have passed the land of arguments very long ago and now we are in the land of get a lawyer and a looot of money or forget about it
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Maybe you guys should flood HTC's social media channels with kernel source requests.
It's really rediculous they haven't release 4.2.2 kernel sources yet.
I know OEM's really dislike negative attention via social media so that's probably the best way.
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nearly every phone except Endeavor got the new kernel source (including evita). is that means that they stopped developing on the one x?
ereneren564 said:
nearly every phone except Endeavor got the new kernel source (including evita). is that means that they stopped developing on the one x?
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i think with new big update frmo htc we will get newer kernel
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i think with new big update frmo htc we will get newer kernel
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you see since that they released it for one s too i cant be really sure
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you see since that they released it for one s too i cant be really sure
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It also depends on nvidia...we have a tegra inside and the one s snapdragon...and with every big update a newer kernel came out...lol
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nearly every phone except Endeavor got the new kernel source (including evita). is that means that they stopped developing on the one x?
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from the first day they sell one x, one x's kernel version is older than other devices
One-X-master is right.
It was related to nVidia and Qualcomm.
Qualcomm is faster than others, not really wanted to write much regarding this.
I believed someone here on xda can write essays on the topic.
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It also depends on nvidia...we have a tegra inside and the one s snapdragon...and with every big update a newer kernel came out...lol
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well linus Torvalds said **** you nVidia read here http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/linus-torvalds-says-f-k-you-to-nvidia/ having said that it also depends on phone manufacturer Nexus 4 has most latest kernel.
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well linus Torvalds said **** you nVidia read here http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/linus-torvalds-says-f-k-you-to-nvidia/ having said that it also depends on phone manufacturer Nexus 4 has most latest kernel.
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Nexus 4 has a qualcomm/snapdragon processor....therefore it also has More newer kernel releases then one x...and it shouldn't be a problem...theywill release if its really necessary ....
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Nexus 4 has a qualcomm/snapdragon processor....therefore it also has More newer kernel releases then one x...and it shouldn't be a problem...theywill release if its really necessary ....
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No i meant more newer version than even qualcomm based HTC devices
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No i meant more newer version than even qualcomm based HTC devices
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Ah okay yes...hm ah I don't care about that ...
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No i meant more newer version than even qualcomm based HTC devices
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Uh, HTC One uses 3.4.10, Nexus 4 uses 3.4.0. I don't see how Nexus 4 has a newer kernel
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Uh, HTC One uses 3.4.10, Nexus 4 uses 3.4.0. I don't see how Nexus 4 has a newer kernel
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I my memory serves me correctly one of my colleague's N4 had 3.6 kernel
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I my memory serves me correctly one of my colleague's N4 had 3.6 kernel
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That's probably a custom kernel. I know the stock N4 kernel is 3.4.0 for 4.2.2
Anyway, we've digressed from the topic at hand (not that there was much to discuss about to begin with )
Nvidia is the problem. The Nexus 7 with Tegra 3 is also still @ 3.1.x :/
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Nvidia is the problem. The Nexus 7 with Tegra 3 is also still @ 3.1.x :/
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Nah. Google never updates the kernel after a device has been released. It has always been like that for Nexus devices.
pandaball said:
Nah. Google never updates the kernel after a device has been released. It has always been like that for Nexus devices.
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Lol
Look at Third party Linux OS
They have 3.8 now lol
Its all Google's and OEM reluctantacy
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Lol
Look at Third party Linux OS
They have 3.8 now lol
Its all Google's and OEM reluctantacy
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Your point being...?
As far as the Linux kernel goes, while they merged some patches to allow for Android to run on the mainline Linux branch, the Android kernel is more or less a fork of the Linux kernel to enable full compatibility with Android and ARM. Its not exactly the easiest thing to do, so of course the Android kernel is behind the mainline Linux kernel. Besides, whatever kernel 4.3 runs on will be the kernel that OEMs use, since the kernel base is already there and it saves OEMs time. Mainline Linux moves forward much faster than Android's yearly releases so you can't expect the Android kernel to keep up with the mainline kernel.
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Your point being...?
As far as the Linux kernel goes, while they merged some patches to allow for Android to run on the mainline Linux branch, the Android kernel is more or less a fork of the Linux kernel to enable full compatibility with Android and ARM. Its not exactly the easiest thing to do, so of course the Android kernel is behind the mainline Linux kernel. Besides, whatever kernel 4.3 runs on will be the kernel that OEMs use, since the kernel base is already there and it saves OEMs time. Mainline Linux moves forward much faster than Android's yearly releases so you can't expect the Android kernel to keep up with the mainline kernel.
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i know but still
atleast 3.6 should be suffice on 2013
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i know but still
atleast 3.6 should be suffice on 2013
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Given that there hasn't been any Android update out this year, no one will move beyond 3.4 until Google does so. What features are there in 3.6 that are absolutely necessary anyway? It seems to me like you want an update to 3.6 because it has a larger number
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Given that there hasn't been any Android update out this year, no one will move beyond 3.4 until Google does so. What features are there in 3.6 that are absolutely necessary anyway? It seems to me like you want an update to 3.6 because it has a larger number
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Yep I also don't get it why always newer if its not always better
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Do you think Android KitKat would be compatible with Wildfire? It is designed for lower end devices so would it be possible for a port of that new OS?
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Do you think Android KitKat would be compatible with Wildfire? It is designed for lower end devices so would it be possible for a port of that new OS?
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Probably not. while it may technically be possible to achieve it is highly unlikely that anyone will be able to do it successfully, or even partially.
Just my 2 pence.
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Probably not. while it may technically be possible to achieve it is highly unlikely that anyone will be able to do it successfully, or even partially.
Just my 2 pence.
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Fair but this could be a chance to breathe new life into our Wildfire, just saying.
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Fair but this could be a chance to breathe new life into our Wildfire, just saying.
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I agree that it could be a very good opportunity, im just saying dont get your hopes up i suppose :/ we just about got got 4.1.2 from this dev here . alot of the "main players" have moved on from this device and i dont think we would have the skill to manage this. to start off with we would need a 3.4 kernel i believe, and i dont think they re-introduced support for non gpu devices in 4.3 kitkat so we would need to implement all the hacks that were required to get ics running and port them over to kitkat.
its a nice idea, but to be honest i think the amount of hours it would need to make it function may not actually work towards a stable daily driver
i`m amazed the wildfire got this far to be honest, and im happy i was here for it
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I agree that it could be a very good opportunity, im just saying dont get your hopes up i suppose :/ we just about got got 4.1.2 from this dev here . alot of the "main players" have moved on from this device and i dont think we would have the skill to manage this. to start off with we would need a 3.4 kernel i believe, and i dont think they re-introduced support for non gpu devices in 4.3 kitkat so we would need to implement all the hacks that were required to get ics running and port them over to kitkat.
its a nice idea, but to be honest i think the amount of hours it would need to make it function may not actually work towards a stable daily driver
i`m amazed the wildfire got this far to be honest, and im happy i was here for it
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Yeah I to agree, also I wish there was a way to
So when android kitkat is released, I myself will try to port this, even if its not possible! I must still try
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port?
that's not a proper word, we'll have to build it from scratch.
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port?
that's not a proper word, we'll have to build it from scratch.
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What is scratch ? You may say sources.And i think it's possible if erwin p and all the old dev come back and tried to build an new rom.
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What is scratch ? You may say sources.And i think it's possible if erwin p and all the old dev come back and tried to build an new rom.
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Scratch is basically start from the beginning, and it's always better to try making a KitKat ROM for Wildfire, you never know what the outcome could be right?
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port?
that's not a proper word, we'll have to build it from scratch.
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What is scratch ? You may say sources.And i think it's possible if erwin p and all the old dev come back and tried to build an new rom.
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Both are real words, just used in different context :thumbup: but yeah it would be defiantly a build from scratch job (using our own source code we would have to make specific to the wildfire)
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So what we are waiting ?
For bigin, who is able to build or port an 4.2/4.3 kernel for our wildfire.
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So what we are waiting ?
For bigin, who is able to build or port an 4.2/4.3 kernel for our wildfire.
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Ah, now that is the real question. If the kernel doesn't get made then this is dead before it starts like.
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So what we are waiting ?
For bigin, who is able to build or port an 4.2/4.3 kernel for our wildfire.
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We are waiting for Android KitKat to be released, we need a device that has a QVGA screen with a resolution of 240 x 320 pixels
AFAIK it would run without a 3.4 or even a 3.8 kernel. But the current 2.6 kernel would slow it down. Only very experienced devs can make properly working kernels. And we have almost no 'real' "i build from source" dev left in this forum. (not offensive, i appreciate the work of any dev/porter/whatever here )
4.1 is also running fine with that old arco - kernel but its really slow maybe because of the hardware maybe because of the kernel. I think its a mix of both components.
I tried with @kylon to get a functioning overclock kernel for the htc wildfire bee, (cdma device) and we couldn't manage to get it stable, and that's the buzz's sister phone. It shares almost all the same hardware :/ so I don't think it will be an easy task.
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AFAIK it would run without a 3.4 or even a 3.8 kernel. But the current 2.6 kernel would slow it down. Only very experienced devs can make properly working kernels. And we have almost no 'real' "i build from source" dev left in this forum. (not offensive, i appreciate the work of any dev/porter/whatever here )
4.1 is also running fine with that old arco - kernel but its really slow maybe because of the hardware maybe because of the kernel. I think its a mix of both components.
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Yea i know that all the dev have left the wildfire, but we can always learn and tried to building one.
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Yea i know that all the dev have left the wildfire, but we can always learn and tried to building one.
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Yeah, hopefully this could be a success
KoolKid98189 said:
Yeah, hopefully this could be a success
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Just my 2p worth but doesn't kitkat and the kernel associated with it look for integrated GPU's which the wildfire simply doesn't have, so if someone was to create a kernel for kitkat you would have to emulate a GPU on the CPU which would slow down the phone to a unusable piece of crap.
Good idea but i doubt it's viable.
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Just my 2p worth but doesn't kitkat and the kernel associated with it look for integrated GPU's which the wildfire simply doesn't have, so if someone was to create a kernel for kitkat you would have to emulate a GPU on the CPU which would slow down the phone to a unusable piece of crap.
Good idea but i doubt it's viable.
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Agreed. Ics barely ran without the kernel hacks to make it run. Though it is said that kitkat should be less resource hungry.
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Agreed. Ics barely ran without the kernel hacks to make it run. Though it is said that kitkat should be less resource hungry.
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Yeah but did ICS have no GPU support? If it did then try porting the ICS hacks to KitKat and see how it goes.
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Yeah but did ICS have no GPU support? If it did then try porting the ICS hacks to KitKat and see how it goes.
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While it's possible I have no idea what hacks were done to make it work. We needed kernel hacks for gingerbread.... The only one that would definitely know would be Arco, as he was the kernel developer for the buzz branch of cyanogenmod. I think most of the work on cm7 and 9 were arcos work, with some help from the guys here of course
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When will see some custom kernels? If we have cm 10.2 ROMs thejbwe should have kernels right.
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coldconfession13 said:
When will see some custom kernels? If we have cm 10.2 ROMs thejbwe should have kernels right.
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Htc has to release the source code first. Please bug them on Twitter or HTC Dev
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But isn't cm 10.2 a custom kernel
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But isn't cm 10.2 a custom kernel
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You really need to give it some time. The Verizon One is still new and locked because of yours truly. I'm just as anxious as you are but development takes time; especially with devices on VZW.
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You really need to give it some time. The Verizon One is still new and locked because of yours truly. I'm just as anxious as you are but development takes time; especially with devices on VZW.
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+1 very well said.
Patience is a virtue in the Android world.
I've got one in the works
EDIT: It's not gonna be anything major or groundbreaking right now, but it'll be based on cm's and have most of the cool features on m7ul custom kernels
From what I've read the international LTE kernel source is what is being used to make custom kernels for our device. I haven't seen it implemented yet, so it would be great to see a kernel with system write protection disabled.
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xenakis said:
From what I've read the international LTE kernel source is what is being used to make custom kernels for our device. I haven't seen it implemented yet, so it would be great to see a kernel with system write protection disabled.
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Those kernels are for AOSP. For a sense kernel, you would probably be better off waiting for kernel source to drop from HTC
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Those kernels are for AOSP. For a sense kernel, you would probably be better off waiting for kernel source to drop from HTC
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Unfortunately, waiting on HTC to drop kernel source is like waiting on a Verizon OTA lol
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Unfortunately, waiting on HTC to drop kernel source is like waiting on a Verizon OTA lol
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maybe verizon is making htc delay on releasing kernel source to try and slow down development lol
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Unfortunately, waiting on HTC to drop kernel source is like waiting on a Verizon OTA lol
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Except HTC is legally required to release the code in a timely fashion. The code will not drop until after 4.3 is out and they usually take 2-3 months to release it. It has absolutely no bearing on an exploit or root. When the DNA got the 2.04 update, HTC took about a month to release it. AOSP kernels like CM do not rely on this. Luckily, the M7 has a nice device tree so whoever is maintaining it now (I am assuming flyhalf) does not need to modify it drastically (much much unlike the DNA). So CM wise, we seem to be fine. You will not see a custom sense kernel until the source is released.
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Except HTC is legally required to release the code in a timely fashion. The code will not drop until after 4.3 is out and they usually take 2-3 months to release it. It has absolutely no bearing on an exploit or root. When the DNA got the 2.04 update, HTC took about a month to release it. AOSP kernels like CM do not rely on this. Luckily, the M7 has a nice device tree so whoever is maintaining it now (I am assuming flyhalf) does not need to modify it drastically (much much unlike the DNA). So CM wise, we seem to be fine. You will not see a custom sense kernel until the source is released.
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That never happens lol only for GE HTC One it was released the same day or something
As for kernel, it could be patched from international One but then it would be a hacky impllementation.. imo not good. Because most AOSP ROMs are based of a derivative of the CM One kernel, the CDMA Ones use this same kernel: maybe there are a few patches to get it working but most of it is just from the international AOSP kernels.
Thats why there are Verizon AOSP kernels and not sense kernels. No one has patched a sense kernel to work on Verizon yet (whether they can't or are simply waiting for proper source is irrelevant, however I would lean towards the latter)
i not???
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That never happens lol only for GE HTC One it was released the same day or something
As for kernel, it could be patched from international One but then it would be a hacky impllementation.. imo not good. Because most AOSP ROMs are based of a derivative of the CM One kernel, the CDMA Ones use this same kernel: maybe there are a few patches to get it working but most of it is just from the international AOSP kernels.
Thats why there are Verizon AOSP kernels and not sense kernels. No one has patched a sense kernel to work on Verizon yet (whether they can't or are simply waiting for proper source is irrelevant, however I would lean towards the latter)
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Whassup my vivo brethren...? I may try to patch said kernel to Verizon soon...no promises though.
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Except HTC is legally required to release the code in a timely fashion. The code will not drop until after 4.3 is out and they usually take 2-3 months to release it. It has absolutely no bearing on an exploit or root. When the DNA got the 2.04 update, HTC took about a month to release it. AOSP kernels like CM do not rely on this. Luckily, the M7 has a nice device tree so whoever is maintaining it now (I am assuming flyhalf) does not need to modify it drastically (much much unlike the DNA). So CM wise, we seem to be fine. You will not see a custom sense kernel until the source is released.
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Yeah...But whether they actually do it or not is another thing. "Timely" isn't actually defined very concretely.
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But isn't cm 10.2 a custom kernel
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The reason there is AOSP source even though there is no Verizon kernel source is because CM commonizes the kernels by related device families to minimize the amount of work that needs to go into it. There is one and only one kernel for all the M7 variants, with a couple options changed, etc, but it's the exact same source tree.
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Whassup my vivo brethren...? I may try to patch said kernel to Verizon soon...no promises though.
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Hathoiught i might see one of you guys here one day.. Hopefully I get my One back from repair (having huge issues with their and my carriers services) so I can start doing stuff to it
I reckon there's not much harm in waiting, and that's better for the long run anyway
Has anyone tried flashing faux123's kernel that states it works on all carriers except Sprint?
The 4.2.2 version?
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Has anyone tried flashing faux123's kernel that states it works on all carriers except Sprint?
The 4.2.2 version?
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If it doesnt work on sprint, a cdma carrier, why would it work for verizon?
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If it doesnt work on sprint, a cdma carrier, why would it work for verizon?
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I was thinking that because it is 4GLTE (which I read was bridging the gap between CDMA and GSM...or eventually going to), it may work. We ported a kernel from the international Incredible 2 (GSM) onto the Verizon Incredible 2 (CDMA) without issues...
Just thinking out loud.
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I was thinking that because it is 4GLTE (which I read was bridging the gap between CDMA and GSM...or eventually going to), it may work. We ported a kernel from the international Incredible 2 (GSM) onto the Verizon Incredible 2 (CDMA) without issues...
Just thinking out loud.
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As long as there is ril support and all drivers work then it's a simple build prop tweak
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Can someone please tell me it isn't true.
Just read it myself, grim news indeed but that's all she wrote I guess. To be fair to rich is there any more he could do with this Rom? He has took it so far and I thank him for that. Time to look for a new device as future updates either official or Dev will dry up
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True about the Rom and development, it's definitely a beauty. We owe rich and the whole team a big thank you, so thank you
I am also very said as viperx was the very first rom I ever flashed and I think the other roms will never have even near as many features as viperx. :crying:
I just hope maybe other dev will take the project from where Rich left it and provide a few more updates.
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I am also very said as viperx was the very first rom I ever flashed and I think the other roms will never have even near as many features as viperx. :crying:
I just hope maybe other dev will take the project from where Rich left it and provide a few more updates.
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Sad moment for hox users, for me best rom, we lost also good kernel devs....this device is dying faster than his older brother Sensation...
Yeah, even the desire had longer support than this. Guess I will wait til the new year and see what comes outs. No point buying the one when they will announce a new flagship early next year
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Rotten Ross said:
Yeah, even the desire had longer support than this. Guess I will wait til the new year and see what comes outs. No point buying the one when they will announce a new flagship early next year
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Well, maybe some dev will support viperx we will have to wait.
And i can't afford htc one, or htc m8, i am happy that i bought hox, it was a nice upgrade from Sensation, so i will settle down, see what will happen with viperx.... :S
I can't afford it either, but I could get one on contractb as my bro can get me 30% of the bill. I love my one x with viperx just feel left down by official support
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HOX isnt lucky at all , once you take a look at its older brother you ca understand what I mean , if you check the HTC Sensation you will find it has much more suport
there you will have a nearly stable KITKAT ROM, not only one 1 kitkat ROM but 3 Kitakat ROM
developers there has been able to write a whole new kernel for Sensation from scratch
Team Venom over there has been able to port Sense5 to Sensation , now my sensation can run 7 different versions of Sense
Our HOX is still young but sadly there isnt much of developer love
HTC Venom said:
HOX isnt lucky at all , once you take a look at its older brother you ca understand what I mean , if you check the HTC Sensation you will find it has much more suport
there you will have a nearly stable KITKAT ROM, not only one 1 kitkat ROM but 3 Kitakat ROM
developers there has been able to write a whole new kernel for Sensation from scratch
Team Venom over there has been able to port Sense5 to Sensation , now my sensation can run 7 different versions of Sense
Our HOX is still young but sadly there isnt much of developer love
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It's not because of devs, it's because of tegra, nvidia, htc....tegra is crap for porting, nvidia is bad for drivers, and for htc is hard to relase kernel source code for nearly 4 months....
My other device with is desire hd still got MORE support than my beloved hox(and it's like 4 years old now? :/)... can't believe that the phone "died" in development for only around year and a half activity in that section. Every dev moved out from the phone like it's some kind of epic fail. Maybe it is, dunno anymore... ;(
It's not hard to understand, the phone itself is no epic fail. To me a great phone. The restrictions in hardware make it very hard to port software easy. That's the main reason !
I'll miss viper. I guess its time I go back to good ole stock.
If anyone skilled here can port ViperX+ rom to ONE X, than me and monarx could continue support to ViperX as we would be updating same base, and we would make common rom for both phone's.
Thats just an idea, i have no actual phone to try it my self, even phones are very similar it could be tricky to do it, but no impossible.
Viper Thread shouldn't be blocked, it will be the best rom for months even discontinued, if it's blocked it will die in days
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Viper Thread shouldn't be blocked, it will be the best rom for months even discontinued, if it's blocked it will die in days
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you havent read the statement well, it's closed for some days so all viewers can see the message ! it will be reopened
i see that the op has changed to,, j to the 4n,,is the no chance that he will be continuing with the development of viper
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i see that the op has changed to,, j to the 4n,,is the no chance that he will be continuing with the development of viper
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No because he clearly said that they have searched for another capable dev that fits the team but without succes. Jan is to busy developing for the one.
The best thing if you want rom support is to sell the hox and by a nexus 4. Just saying
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No because he clearly said that they have searched for another capable dev that fits the team but without succes. Jan is to busy developing for the one.
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So the One also has a Viper ROM ?
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HTC One X was my first ever android phone I bought ,I didnt regret buying an HTC phone since it has a good design and build quality , but HTC is doing it wrong when it comes to Software support and buyer support ,
The life cycle of software support of HTC devices is lower when it's being compared to other devices like Samsung , as Samsung at this moment is working on porting KITKAT to S3 which is similar to HOX in capabilities , at the same time we hear nothing from HTC when it comes to our device
HTC is maybe trying in such a dirty way to stop supporting our device to force us to move to a newer HTC device , but actually that may hurt them more , our HOX has still have a lot of life in it and there is no reason we need to stop using it
If at least HTC is not going to release a newer version of Sense to our device ,it should at least release the latest kernel source which HTC has no right to hide it or keep it away as its after all an open source
I"v been thinking about ways to force HTC to do a little more support for our HOX by going into media, flooding and spamming their media threads to ask them to keep on supporting of our device
HTC at this moment is trying hard to prove its a user friendly and a good customer support company in all of its media as a way of many to get back into market and at least we we can use this point to make it hear us
I have found a couple of ways to do that which including continuous comments is all of it's Facebook pages and beside arranging a good petition page (one is enough ) and keep referring that page back into it's facebook pages again and again
so I need
1- someone who would help us by writing a good petition at www.change.com for HTC and referre it back to us here and then we spread it all over HTC Facebook pages
2-all members of XDA that would like to have more support for HOX should keep commenting , writing , ask for support and referring to petition page all over HTC's facebook pages
here are link for HTC's facebook pages I have found
https://www.facebook.com/HTC
https://www.facebook.com/htcuk
https://www.facebook.com/HTCIndia
https://www.facebook.com/htcusa
and also not to forget their G+ page
https://plus.google.com/+HTC/posts
I know it's kind of spamming but I dont think we have any other way beside that
Dude you got everything wrong ,the hox has had three major updates ,the latest is sense 5 , 4.2.2 which made hox brand new phone ,the HTC one 4.3 update was released before Samsung s4 , HTC is about to release 4.4 for HTC one which clearly is faster than Samsung updating their phones , get your facts straight mate
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Dude you got everything wrong ,the hox has had three major updates ,the latest is sense 5 , 4.2.2 which made hox brand new phone ,the HTC one 4.3 update was released before Samsung s4 , HTC is about to release 4.4 for HTC one which clearly is faster than Samsung updating their phones , get your facts straight mate
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Sources friend sources.... Plus check the history till now samsungs phones are always one or two versions ahead of htcs... Like the s3 now which is receiving 4.3 and it has 4.4 also planned
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Sources friend sources.... Plus check the history till now samsungs phones are always one or two versions ahead of htcs... Like the s3 now which is receiving 4.3 and it has 4.4 also planned
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what source do you need ? the fact that hox has had 3 major updates ? or the fact that sense 5 rendered the hox a brand new device? or the fact that 4.3 sense 5.5 for the htc one rolled out 6 weeks ago ? or the fact that kitkat 4.4 is rolling out now?
https://twitter.com/HTCUSA/status/406487913615335424
https://twitter.com/HTCUSA/status/406487913615335424
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what source do you need ? the fact that hox has had 3 major updates ? or the fact that sense 5 rendered the hox a brand new device? or the fact that 4.3 sense 5.5 for the htc one rolled out 6 weeks ago ? or the fact that kitkat 4.4 is rolling out now?
https://twitter.com/HTCUSA/status/406487913615335424
https://twitter.com/HTCUSA/status/406487913615335424
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Read my first post again. We need the sources of the new kernel so devs have a easier job making new roms. Thats how you keep a community alive. Thats why the s3 community is a lot bigger. They take care of that. And i was talking about the hox not the one which only the dev edition is now getting 4.4 while everyone else gets it in january/february. You clearly dont know what you are talking about so inform yourself better if you are going to bash someone elses thread. Dont you think it is weird we aint got a 4.4 rom and all devs are leaving?
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im well informed buddy ,devs are leaving because hox was doomed form the beginning with the tegra cpu ,so devs left because no s-off , if you have to blame someone blame nvidia for not releasing newer kernel drivers ,remember htc built the sense 5 4.2.2 update on the old kernel ,i think everyone should be happy with the way htc treated the hox owners ,you basically have a brand new phone now , you want bigger community show as your deving skills and give us s-off ,or better buy gs3 because Samsung take care of devs as you say.
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im well informed buddy ,devs are leaving because hox was doomed form the beginning with the tegra cpu ,so devs left because no s-off , if you have to blame someone blame nvidia for not releasing newer kernel drivers ,remember htc built the sense 5 4.2.2 update on the old kernel ,i think everyone should be happy with the way htc treated the hox owners ,you basically have a brand new phone now , you want bigger community show as your deving skills and give us s-off ,or better buy gs3 because Samsung take care of devs as you say.
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Brand new phone with 4.2.2 when 4.4 was almost out? On a old nvidia kernel after nvidia released the 3.4.10 kernel version for all tegra 3 devices? 90 days which are obligatory by law are now over still no sources still htc did such a good job? So lets say the cm devs are waiting for new sources because they dont know what they are doing? They could make the same job with old kernel? So they are waiting for nothing? S-off would help getting better rom devs? Why because they could flash the boot.img from recovery? Did you check thunders thread? If tegra 3 is so bad why is the nexus 7 on 4.4? Dont we have the same chipset? Is this the end? Yes it is...
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im well informed buddy ,devs are leaving because hox was doomed form the beginning with the tegra cpu ,so devs left because no s-off , if you have to blame someone blame nvidia for not releasing newer kernel drivers ,remember htc built the sense 5 4.2.2 update on the old kernel ,i think everyone should be happy with the way htc treated the hox owners ,you basically have a brand new phone now , you want bigger community show as your deving skills and give us s-off ,or better buy gs3 because Samsung take care of devs as you say.
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the devs are leaving not because of no s-off...because htc doesn't release the kernel source code fast and doesn't update the phone like S3 from samsung...even if i hate samsung and their updates are always not that good...they are still getting newer android...if htc finally would release the f*cking kernel source and would update atleast to 4.4, which would make our phone again to a much powerful phone with again much better battery life then we still were having a good community here...so because there is nothing more to improve or to update really the most devs are buying other phones...and if htc will be keeping that policy, even if they have the most beautiful phones i will never ever buy again a phone from them because of their f*cking policy...
and if you would read not even the best devs were able to get s-off for hox ...nearly no one cares anymore for s.off as for kernel flashing without computer we have kernel lighter... and yup...and the update made the phone not that better...yea it made it better but not so much like it would with 4.4 !
Would be great if a admin could clean this thread so it can start over
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Well my advice to everyone angry with HTC ,not releasing updates ,not releasing kernel source code ,not whatever, MOVE ON ,go to Samsung which provides all the above . Think hard next time before buying a new handset ,in terms of updates and so on it would save you guys major headache .
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Well my advice to everyone angry with HTC ,not releasing updates ,not releasing kernel source code ,not whatever, MOVE ON ,go to Samsung which provides all the above . Think hard next time before buying a new handset ,in terms of updates and so on it would save you guys major headache .
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The delay is from Nvidia not htc take a look at the one xl it's sources were out a month ago HTC did there job right nvidia just messed it up
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The delay is from Nvidia not htc take a look at the one xl it's sources were out a month ago HTC did there job right nvidia just messed it up
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Again..... Nvidia released the 3.4.10 kernel for all tegra 3 devices months ago. Now tell me why we aint on the newest nvidia kernel?
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Again..... Nvidia released the 3.4.10 kernel for all tegra 3 devices months ago. Now tell me why we aint on the newest nvidia kernel?
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Because our chip is different than the others it's older!!
And nvidia has been known for ****ty drivers for linux kernels so that's your answer.
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Because our chip is different than the others it's older!!
And nvidia has been known for ****ty drivers for linux kernels so that's your answer.
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They released it for all tegra 3 devices....
I dont say that nvidia hasnt ****ty drivers for linux but they managed to give us 3.1.10 kernel... Htc could do the same withe the new one dont you think?
I give up...
So im just gonna wait for nothing like the cm devs and aicp devs and neo and try to sell my hox
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Since they have released 4.2.2 it means that they already have the kernel source of 4.2.2, without the kernel source of 4.2.2 ,Sense 5 4.2.2 ROM wouldn't be released
They already have it but they are not releasing it
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Since they have released 4.2.2 it means that they already have the kernel source of 4.2.2, without the kernel source of 4.2.2 ,Sense 5 4.2.2 ROM wouldn't be released
They already have it but they are not releasing it
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yes they're doing illegal stuff because they don`t like us!
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yes they're doing illegal stuff because they don`t like us!
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Probably. We shouldnt make custom roms in the first place!
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Probably. We shouldnt make custom roms in the first place!
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That's not illegal read the Apache licence
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That's not illegal read the Apache licence
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I was joking.... And yes it is not i illegal for now. They are trying even to take that away from you by demanding carriers to take away the right of users to flash custom roms on their device if they are on a contract.
Anyway i hope some admin can clean this thread
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@HTC Venom
There is a thread for 4.4 support already i think it is a great idea if you would talk to the creator of that thread and ask him if you could put everything into one thread. He has already some sigs so it would be great if you could sign one thing for both sources and 4.4 rom
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I was joking.... And yes it is not i illegal for now. They are trying even to take that away from you by demanding carriers to take away the right of users to flash custom roms on their device if they are on a contract.
Anyway i hope some admin can clean this thread
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@HTC Venom
There is a thread for 4.4 support already i think it is a great idea if you would talk to the creator of that thread and ask him if you could put everything into one thread. He has already some sigs so it would be great if you could sign one thing for both
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true,but the last time I checked it was in spanish