HTC One X was my first ever android phone I bought ,I didnt regret buying an HTC phone since it has a good design and build quality , but HTC is doing it wrong when it comes to Software support and buyer support ,
The life cycle of software support of HTC devices is lower when it's being compared to other devices like Samsung , as Samsung at this moment is working on porting KITKAT to S3 which is similar to HOX in capabilities , at the same time we hear nothing from HTC when it comes to our device
HTC is maybe trying in such a dirty way to stop supporting our device to force us to move to a newer HTC device , but actually that may hurt them more , our HOX has still have a lot of life in it and there is no reason we need to stop using it
If at least HTC is not going to release a newer version of Sense to our device ,it should at least release the latest kernel source which HTC has no right to hide it or keep it away as its after all an open source
I"v been thinking about ways to force HTC to do a little more support for our HOX by going into media, flooding and spamming their media threads to ask them to keep on supporting of our device
HTC at this moment is trying hard to prove its a user friendly and a good customer support company in all of its media as a way of many to get back into market and at least we we can use this point to make it hear us
I have found a couple of ways to do that which including continuous comments is all of it's Facebook pages and beside arranging a good petition page (one is enough ) and keep referring that page back into it's facebook pages again and again
so I need
1- someone who would help us by writing a good petition at www.change.com for HTC and referre it back to us here and then we spread it all over HTC Facebook pages
2-all members of XDA that would like to have more support for HOX should keep commenting , writing , ask for support and referring to petition page all over HTC's facebook pages
here are link for HTC's facebook pages I have found
https://www.facebook.com/HTC
https://www.facebook.com/htcuk
https://www.facebook.com/HTCIndia
https://www.facebook.com/htcusa
and also not to forget their G+ page
https://plus.google.com/+HTC/posts
I know it's kind of spamming but I dont think we have any other way beside that
Dude you got everything wrong ,the hox has had three major updates ,the latest is sense 5 , 4.2.2 which made hox brand new phone ,the HTC one 4.3 update was released before Samsung s4 , HTC is about to release 4.4 for HTC one which clearly is faster than Samsung updating their phones , get your facts straight mate
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Dude you got everything wrong ,the hox has had three major updates ,the latest is sense 5 , 4.2.2 which made hox brand new phone ,the HTC one 4.3 update was released before Samsung s4 , HTC is about to release 4.4 for HTC one which clearly is faster than Samsung updating their phones , get your facts straight mate
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Sources friend sources.... Plus check the history till now samsungs phones are always one or two versions ahead of htcs... Like the s3 now which is receiving 4.3 and it has 4.4 also planned
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Sources friend sources.... Plus check the history till now samsungs phones are always one or two versions ahead of htcs... Like the s3 now which is receiving 4.3 and it has 4.4 also planned
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what source do you need ? the fact that hox has had 3 major updates ? or the fact that sense 5 rendered the hox a brand new device? or the fact that 4.3 sense 5.5 for the htc one rolled out 6 weeks ago ? or the fact that kitkat 4.4 is rolling out now?
https://twitter.com/HTCUSA/status/406487913615335424
https://twitter.com/HTCUSA/status/406487913615335424
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what source do you need ? the fact that hox has had 3 major updates ? or the fact that sense 5 rendered the hox a brand new device? or the fact that 4.3 sense 5.5 for the htc one rolled out 6 weeks ago ? or the fact that kitkat 4.4 is rolling out now?
https://twitter.com/HTCUSA/status/406487913615335424
https://twitter.com/HTCUSA/status/406487913615335424
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Read my first post again. We need the sources of the new kernel so devs have a easier job making new roms. Thats how you keep a community alive. Thats why the s3 community is a lot bigger. They take care of that. And i was talking about the hox not the one which only the dev edition is now getting 4.4 while everyone else gets it in january/february. You clearly dont know what you are talking about so inform yourself better if you are going to bash someone elses thread. Dont you think it is weird we aint got a 4.4 rom and all devs are leaving?
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im well informed buddy ,devs are leaving because hox was doomed form the beginning with the tegra cpu ,so devs left because no s-off , if you have to blame someone blame nvidia for not releasing newer kernel drivers ,remember htc built the sense 5 4.2.2 update on the old kernel ,i think everyone should be happy with the way htc treated the hox owners ,you basically have a brand new phone now , you want bigger community show as your deving skills and give us s-off ,or better buy gs3 because Samsung take care of devs as you say.
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im well informed buddy ,devs are leaving because hox was doomed form the beginning with the tegra cpu ,so devs left because no s-off , if you have to blame someone blame nvidia for not releasing newer kernel drivers ,remember htc built the sense 5 4.2.2 update on the old kernel ,i think everyone should be happy with the way htc treated the hox owners ,you basically have a brand new phone now , you want bigger community show as your deving skills and give us s-off ,or better buy gs3 because Samsung take care of devs as you say.
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Brand new phone with 4.2.2 when 4.4 was almost out? On a old nvidia kernel after nvidia released the 3.4.10 kernel version for all tegra 3 devices? 90 days which are obligatory by law are now over still no sources still htc did such a good job? So lets say the cm devs are waiting for new sources because they dont know what they are doing? They could make the same job with old kernel? So they are waiting for nothing? S-off would help getting better rom devs? Why because they could flash the boot.img from recovery? Did you check thunders thread? If tegra 3 is so bad why is the nexus 7 on 4.4? Dont we have the same chipset? Is this the end? Yes it is...
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im well informed buddy ,devs are leaving because hox was doomed form the beginning with the tegra cpu ,so devs left because no s-off , if you have to blame someone blame nvidia for not releasing newer kernel drivers ,remember htc built the sense 5 4.2.2 update on the old kernel ,i think everyone should be happy with the way htc treated the hox owners ,you basically have a brand new phone now , you want bigger community show as your deving skills and give us s-off ,or better buy gs3 because Samsung take care of devs as you say.
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the devs are leaving not because of no s-off...because htc doesn't release the kernel source code fast and doesn't update the phone like S3 from samsung...even if i hate samsung and their updates are always not that good...they are still getting newer android...if htc finally would release the f*cking kernel source and would update atleast to 4.4, which would make our phone again to a much powerful phone with again much better battery life then we still were having a good community here...so because there is nothing more to improve or to update really the most devs are buying other phones...and if htc will be keeping that policy, even if they have the most beautiful phones i will never ever buy again a phone from them because of their f*cking policy...
and if you would read not even the best devs were able to get s-off for hox ...nearly no one cares anymore for s.off as for kernel flashing without computer we have kernel lighter... and yup...and the update made the phone not that better...yea it made it better but not so much like it would with 4.4 !
Would be great if a admin could clean this thread so it can start over
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Well my advice to everyone angry with HTC ,not releasing updates ,not releasing kernel source code ,not whatever, MOVE ON ,go to Samsung which provides all the above . Think hard next time before buying a new handset ,in terms of updates and so on it would save you guys major headache .
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Well my advice to everyone angry with HTC ,not releasing updates ,not releasing kernel source code ,not whatever, MOVE ON ,go to Samsung which provides all the above . Think hard next time before buying a new handset ,in terms of updates and so on it would save you guys major headache .
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The delay is from Nvidia not htc take a look at the one xl it's sources were out a month ago HTC did there job right nvidia just messed it up
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The delay is from Nvidia not htc take a look at the one xl it's sources were out a month ago HTC did there job right nvidia just messed it up
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Again..... Nvidia released the 3.4.10 kernel for all tegra 3 devices months ago. Now tell me why we aint on the newest nvidia kernel?
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Again..... Nvidia released the 3.4.10 kernel for all tegra 3 devices months ago. Now tell me why we aint on the newest nvidia kernel?
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Because our chip is different than the others it's older!!
And nvidia has been known for ****ty drivers for linux kernels so that's your answer.
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Because our chip is different than the others it's older!!
And nvidia has been known for ****ty drivers for linux kernels so that's your answer.
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They released it for all tegra 3 devices....
I dont say that nvidia hasnt ****ty drivers for linux but they managed to give us 3.1.10 kernel... Htc could do the same withe the new one dont you think?
I give up...
So im just gonna wait for nothing like the cm devs and aicp devs and neo and try to sell my hox
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Since they have released 4.2.2 it means that they already have the kernel source of 4.2.2, without the kernel source of 4.2.2 ,Sense 5 4.2.2 ROM wouldn't be released
They already have it but they are not releasing it
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Since they have released 4.2.2 it means that they already have the kernel source of 4.2.2, without the kernel source of 4.2.2 ,Sense 5 4.2.2 ROM wouldn't be released
They already have it but they are not releasing it
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yes they're doing illegal stuff because they don`t like us!
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yes they're doing illegal stuff because they don`t like us!
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Probably. We shouldnt make custom roms in the first place!
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Probably. We shouldnt make custom roms in the first place!
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That's not illegal read the Apache licence
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That's not illegal read the Apache licence
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I was joking.... And yes it is not i illegal for now. They are trying even to take that away from you by demanding carriers to take away the right of users to flash custom roms on their device if they are on a contract.
Anyway i hope some admin can clean this thread
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@HTC Venom
There is a thread for 4.4 support already i think it is a great idea if you would talk to the creator of that thread and ask him if you could put everything into one thread. He has already some sigs so it would be great if you could sign one thing for both sources and 4.4 rom
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I was joking.... And yes it is not i illegal for now. They are trying even to take that away from you by demanding carriers to take away the right of users to flash custom roms on their device if they are on a contract.
Anyway i hope some admin can clean this thread
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@HTC Venom
There is a thread for 4.4 support already i think it is a great idea if you would talk to the creator of that thread and ask him if you could put everything into one thread. He has already some sigs so it would be great if you could sign one thing for both
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true,but the last time I checked it was in spanish
Related
Important news for all Android owners but particularly to hox owners..... Now starts the long wait for the update!
http://m.engadget.com/2012/06/27/project-butter-improves-android-4-1s-speed/?icid=eng_latest_art
and the processor will swing into full gear the moment you touch the screen to keep input lag to a minimum
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Arghhh my battery!!!
Let's hope we have 4.1 on our awesome device very soon!
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Nexus 7 tablet cames with Android 4.1 ?
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vladnosferatu said:
Nexus 7 tablet cames with Android 4.1 ?
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yes it does
Is 4.1 even jellybean? Surely jellybean would be 5.x?
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Nexus 7 has a tegra 3 processor. Is this means we can get 4.1 faster?
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Nexus 7 has a tegra 3 processor. Is this means we can get 4.1 faster?
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no not really..first is the Google Nexus phones and then all the rest
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Is 4.1 even jellybean? Surely jellybean would be 5.x?
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4.1 is jellybean mate
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no not really..first is the Google Nexus phones and then all the rest
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I think he meant that it's maybe easier for devs to port it, since both are Tegra 3 devices
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Is 4.1 even jellybean? Surely jellybean would be 5.x?
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No as jellybean is only minor update really in terms of layout anyway. it would be 5x if it was a huge update. Like if they changed the UI
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no not really..first is the Google Nexus phones and then all the rest
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4.1 is jellybean mate
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I know htc will not release it soon but I thought same processor can make porting process faster for developers of tegra 3 devices am I totally wrong?
I'm curious to see how long this will take to officially make it to our phones by OTA. Seeing as there's no UI changes really HTC don't have to change much with Sense, but I can still see this taking till 2013 lol.
No your not wrong. Porting may be easier because the soc is the same so driver's etc will be easier. Most of the work should be done basically since they both use tegra 3. But don't expect it till a while. Especially not from htc unless they pull a surprise.
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Froyo was released may 20th 2010 and I can remember it getting it on my desire around mid juli, that's not to bad of htc. I can imagine gb to ics would take more time but the step from ics to jb is about as big as from eclair to froyo
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I know htc will not release it soon but I thought same processor can make porting process faster for developers of tegra 3 devices am I totally wrong?
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Partly right, but there is a lot more than just the Tegra 3 SoC to require drivers for. It looks as if the overall system updates are fairly minimal (at least compared to GB->ICS which had big driver rewrites). We'll have to see how much can be reused from what we have for ICS and hopefully device tree changes will be minimal.
Might almost be time to start flashing the One X! :victory:
JB will arrive soon because Google announced PDT and JB PDT is already with major manufacturers so you should expect JB soon
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Nice new feature in the JellyBean but I don't think that HTC can ever give us the same buttery smooth experience. One more reason why should manufacturers also make available clean Android OS at least as a optional flashable RUU. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING. do it Google.
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Nice new feature in the JellyBean but I don't think that HTC can ever give us the same buttery smooth experience. One more reason why should manufacturers also make available clean Android OS at least as a optional flashable RUU. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING. do it Google.
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Not to be a buzz kill or anything but that wouldn't really work... You would need a new one for every device which isn't possible.. that's why they do just that (well, provide images) for their supported devices, the nexi. It would be up to HTC, and, quite frankly, that's never going to happen as i'ts not in their interest.
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I'm very glad to see that they're working on the smoothness. Can't wait for the port!
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I'm curious to see how long this will take to officially make it to our phones by OTA. Seeing as there's no UI changes really HTC don't have to change much with Sense, but I can still see this taking till 2013 lol.
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The changes in UI would be pretty much the thing which bothers OEM the less...
As they do their own on the top, the major issues for them is the framework in the background (yes, there is an ecosystem behind what you see on the screen ^^)
So, they need to adjust sense etc to the new changes introduced by Jellybean (thinking of the new syncing and triple buffering) But yeah... Normally it shouldn't take long to make a fully bugged and craploaded sense for JB... but they will take 6 month min I'm afraid...
(Or will it be as on the Desire ? -> The phone is not powerfull enough to handle a minor update :silly: )
Guys did you read this?
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/11/20/htc-one-x-android-4-4-android-4-3-updates-good-dead/
So sad.
This is not all the bad news.
because we don't have s-off
our phone apparently will not get CM11 or any pure android 4.4 ROM
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Guys did you read this?
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/11/20/htc-one-x-android-4-4-android-4-3-updates-good-dead/
So sad.
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they can still change their minds but this is just a common answer, The higher up execs probably haven't decided what they're doing so take this with a pinch of salt. if there's no other announcements by february then we probably won't be getting another update but don't quote me on it.
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they can still change their minds but this is just a common answer, The higher up execs probably haven't decided what they're doing so take this with a pinch of salt. if there's no other announcements by february then we probably won't be getting another update but don't quote me on it.
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Yes, since the lower end devices can run 4.4. As promised by Google's Android dev.
I dont think this HOX will be skipping this update. Just the people at HTC do some work for it. :victory:
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Yes, since the lower end should be run on lower end on 4.4. As promised by Google's Android dev.
I dont think this HOX will be skipping this update. Just the people at HTC do some work for it. :victory:
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It can run on our phones fine but the issue is nvidia.
This article is about US version, ONE XL, but we won't get it either (I think).
But surely they have to support the One X+ as that is still under or around 18 months old, in which case it shouldn't take much to port it to ours.
With the excellent devs we have on here it would turn up quicker than HTC porting it to ours as well.
Yes they can change their minds sure and there is still hope.... Chuckle
http://feedly.com/k/189wwHu
They delayed it even for the one. Htc you are the best company ever
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Shame about HTC ...such good phones...such poor upgrades in software.
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This is not all the bad news.
because we don't have s-off
our phone apparently will not get CM11 or any pure android 4.4 ROM
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Not true and not true again. Devs are waiting for sources to be released to start working on cm11. HTC is delaying it again
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Can someone please tell me it isn't true.
Just read it myself, grim news indeed but that's all she wrote I guess. To be fair to rich is there any more he could do with this Rom? He has took it so far and I thank him for that. Time to look for a new device as future updates either official or Dev will dry up
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True about the Rom and development, it's definitely a beauty. We owe rich and the whole team a big thank you, so thank you
I am also very said as viperx was the very first rom I ever flashed and I think the other roms will never have even near as many features as viperx. :crying:
I just hope maybe other dev will take the project from where Rich left it and provide a few more updates.
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I am also very said as viperx was the very first rom I ever flashed and I think the other roms will never have even near as many features as viperx. :crying:
I just hope maybe other dev will take the project from where Rich left it and provide a few more updates.
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Sad moment for hox users, for me best rom, we lost also good kernel devs....this device is dying faster than his older brother Sensation...
Yeah, even the desire had longer support than this. Guess I will wait til the new year and see what comes outs. No point buying the one when they will announce a new flagship early next year
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Rotten Ross said:
Yeah, even the desire had longer support than this. Guess I will wait til the new year and see what comes outs. No point buying the one when they will announce a new flagship early next year
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Well, maybe some dev will support viperx we will have to wait.
And i can't afford htc one, or htc m8, i am happy that i bought hox, it was a nice upgrade from Sensation, so i will settle down, see what will happen with viperx.... :S
I can't afford it either, but I could get one on contractb as my bro can get me 30% of the bill. I love my one x with viperx just feel left down by official support
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HOX isnt lucky at all , once you take a look at its older brother you ca understand what I mean , if you check the HTC Sensation you will find it has much more suport
there you will have a nearly stable KITKAT ROM, not only one 1 kitkat ROM but 3 Kitakat ROM
developers there has been able to write a whole new kernel for Sensation from scratch
Team Venom over there has been able to port Sense5 to Sensation , now my sensation can run 7 different versions of Sense
Our HOX is still young but sadly there isnt much of developer love
HTC Venom said:
HOX isnt lucky at all , once you take a look at its older brother you ca understand what I mean , if you check the HTC Sensation you will find it has much more suport
there you will have a nearly stable KITKAT ROM, not only one 1 kitkat ROM but 3 Kitakat ROM
developers there has been able to write a whole new kernel for Sensation from scratch
Team Venom over there has been able to port Sense5 to Sensation , now my sensation can run 7 different versions of Sense
Our HOX is still young but sadly there isnt much of developer love
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It's not because of devs, it's because of tegra, nvidia, htc....tegra is crap for porting, nvidia is bad for drivers, and for htc is hard to relase kernel source code for nearly 4 months....
My other device with is desire hd still got MORE support than my beloved hox(and it's like 4 years old now? :/)... can't believe that the phone "died" in development for only around year and a half activity in that section. Every dev moved out from the phone like it's some kind of epic fail. Maybe it is, dunno anymore... ;(
It's not hard to understand, the phone itself is no epic fail. To me a great phone. The restrictions in hardware make it very hard to port software easy. That's the main reason !
I'll miss viper. I guess its time I go back to good ole stock.
If anyone skilled here can port ViperX+ rom to ONE X, than me and monarx could continue support to ViperX as we would be updating same base, and we would make common rom for both phone's.
Thats just an idea, i have no actual phone to try it my self, even phones are very similar it could be tricky to do it, but no impossible.
Viper Thread shouldn't be blocked, it will be the best rom for months even discontinued, if it's blocked it will die in days
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xratex said:
Viper Thread shouldn't be blocked, it will be the best rom for months even discontinued, if it's blocked it will die in days
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you havent read the statement well, it's closed for some days so all viewers can see the message ! it will be reopened
i see that the op has changed to,, j to the 4n,,is the no chance that he will be continuing with the development of viper
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i see that the op has changed to,, j to the 4n,,is the no chance that he will be continuing with the development of viper
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No because he clearly said that they have searched for another capable dev that fits the team but without succes. Jan is to busy developing for the one.
The best thing if you want rom support is to sell the hox and by a nexus 4. Just saying
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No because he clearly said that they have searched for another capable dev that fits the team but without succes. Jan is to busy developing for the one.
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So the One also has a Viper ROM ?
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even the defy i had now have a cm11 build(pretty good even! they have 250+ ram free most stuff works)
and we dont get it on a great device such as out hox?
what is the status of trying and running the 4.4?
is the devices status that bad when it comes to new versions?(the defy dont even have an open bootloader, at all!)
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even the defy i had now have a cm11 build(pretty good even! they have 250+ ram free most stuff works)
and we dont get it on a great device such as out hox?
what is the status of trying and running the 4.4?
is the devices status that bad when it comes to new versions?(the defy dont even have an open bootloader, at all!)
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Well... Its been said a thousand times read through the general threads
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What always worried me about HoX development is that the hardware is very similar to the 3G nexus 7 2012 which gets its source code released,
i know there must be different things, different brand ram, the nexus 7 has a slower version of the Tegra 3, not sure if the radio, bluetooth and sensor chips are the same,
and the screen controller is clearly different.
Even the evita now has a cynaogenmod 11 build out
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Tegra . Tegra......
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Tegra . Tegra......
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... Amazing really. A couple posts above someone mentioned the nexus 7 has 4.4. Now suddenly the tegra chipset is the problem again. It is htc not releasing sources for **** sake people. Its no wonder we dont achieve anything as a whole.
We have thomy a great dev but his hands are tied without sources. We would be rockin cm11 for sure by now
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2011 Sony Ericsson Xperia Devices Taste Android 4.4 KitKat
Also xperia devices not have code from sony but the developers have only complicated by the codes and are 4.4 ///I'm with 3.8.0 kernel jb !!!
It not just kernel source I think...because it seem LG optimus 4x hd where have same chipset as us already have kit kat. Please let our dev focus on bringing stable 4.3 first.
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It not just kernel source I think...because it seem LG optimus 4x hd where have same chipset as us already have kit kat. Please let our dev focus on bringing stable 4.3 first.
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We don't need 4.3 the changes between 4.2.2.and 4.3 is to small we need the new 4.4 directly
One X seem be dead. Miui discontinued support for porting HOX on official site of Miui
Why not make a petition to get HTC releasing the kernel source code? I've already tell them on twitter to stop violating GPL
Or we will go with the old kernels if we want cm11. This could also happen
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Yeah, you're right, but this doesn't make any sense.
HTC have to release the source so the dev can work on it!
Damn you HTC, I'm glad you're failing.
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... Amazing really. A couple posts above someone mentioned the nexus 7 has 4.4. Now suddenly the tegra chipset is the problem again. It is htc not releasing sources for **** sake people. Its no wonder we dont achieve anything as a whole.
We have thomy a great dev but his hands are tied without sources. We would be rockin cm11 for sure by now
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Have you done ROM development on a new android release for a device?
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Have you done ROM development on a new android release for a device?
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No. Im just saying what the devs said. Waiting for sources
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and313 said:
No. Im just saying what the devs said. Waiting for sources
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The Motorola defy doesn't even have an open bootloader they use a software trick called 2ndinit to boot into a custom recovery.
I bet they don't have kernel source either yet they have come from 2.1 until 4.4 with a mere gingerbread base.
How comes can't we do the same trick?
yossi2010 said:
The Motorola defy doesn't even have an open bootloader they use a software trick called 2ndinit to boot into a custom recovery.
I bet they don't have kernel source either yet they have come from 2.1 until 4.4 with a mere gingerbread base.
How comes can't we do the same trick?
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Because as said devs are waiting for sources which means they want to use the new one because they are more updated as the old ones which means more customization. Something in that way. Nothing stays in the way using a old kernel though. But when new sources are released they need to port it again. Something in that way again
So nobody wants to work for free double time... Which is normal i guess
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Some time ago I read that HTC got no other choice besides releasing kernel source because of some legal stuff.
Is this true? If it is it's just a matter of time and we will definitely get the new kernel source and 4.4
Also we could use this argument to force HTC to release the source faster.
We have passed the land of arguments very long ago and now we are in the land of get a lawyer and a looot of money or forget about it
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Maybe you guys should flood HTC's social media channels with kernel source requests.
It's really rediculous they haven't release 4.2.2 kernel sources yet.
I know OEM's really dislike negative attention via social media so that's probably the best way.
Will u think That there will be a Sense 6 Rom for our One x (or even an official update ) ?
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It's a question ?......open it in the Q&A section next time.
No not official.....maybe bits and pieces will be ported if someone is geeky enough to put their time and effort in it. But the complete sense 6 framework will never be ported.
The new apk system for sense 6 ingredients will make pouring parts of sense 6 easier . And to be honest I think porting all sense 6 to HTC sensation will be much easier than porting it to the more powerful HIX
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Yeah tegra is tegra...
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It is already confirmed that the only devices that will have OFFICIAL Sense 6 will be: One 2014, One, One Mini and One Max
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Zyner said:
It is already confirmed that the only devices that will have OFFICIAL Sense 6 will be: One 2014, One, One Mini and One Max
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Well, this is the reason why HTC is in the global position where it is. They do not care for their costumers, then we have our way to punish companies by boycotting their products.
If IPhone 4 can still receive updates (7.1 version) after almost 4 years, why our ONE X which are very good phones and powerfull can not receive 4.4 ?
See what the world thinks about your prodcuts; http://news.yahoo.com/htc-built-world-best-smartphone-nobody-cared-again-195440431.html
Be ready HTC for boycott. Will never ever taste your products. (This is my strongest position to f.... you up).
Well if they use qualcomm and play it smart they might... Just get out of the slumber
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mqazimi said:
Well, this is the reason why HTC is in the global position where it is. They do not care for their costumers, then we have our way to punish companies by boycotting their products.
If IPhone 4 can still receive updates (7.1 version) after almost 4 years, why our ONE X which are very good phones and powerfull can not receive 4.4 ?
See what the world thinks about your prodcuts; http://news.yahoo.com/htc-built-world-best-smartphone-nobody-cared-again-195440431.html
Be ready HTC for boycott. Will never ever taste your products. (This is my strongest position to f.... you up).
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Yeah this is why i'm switching to LG G2 after 3 years of ihateTC.
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mqazimi said:
Well, this is the reason why HTC is in the global position where it is. They do not care for their costumers, then we have our way to punish companies by boycotting their products.
If IPhone 4 can still receive updates (7.1 version) after almost 4 years, why our ONE X which are very good phones and powerfull can not receive 4.4 ?
See what the world thinks about your prodcuts; http://news.yahoo.com/htc-built-world-best-smartphone-nobody-cared-again-195440431.html
Be ready HTC for boycott. Will never ever taste your products. (This is my strongest position to f.... you up).
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It isn't completely HTC's fault. Nvidia has dropped support for the Tegra3 chipset, which makes it extremely hard for HTC to release and official Android 4.4 update since they don't have the necessary drivers.
However, I don't know how custom rom developers CAN get Android 4.4 running well on the HOX while HTC can't..
But the good part of the new sense is the new apk system . Now zoe, BlinkFeed and home launcher each has it's own apk file available at the play store . So we can expect porting of some sense 6 elements to our device .
And beside I wouldn't get surprised to see in near future HTC sensation to receive a full firmware port of sense 6 and we still stand still with sense 5 on HOX
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It isn't completely HTC's fault. Nvidia has dropped support for the Tegra3 chipset, which makes it extremely hard for HTC to release and official Android 4.4 update since they don't have the necessary drivers.
However, I don't know how custom Rom developers CAN get Android 4.4 running well on the HOX while HTC can't..
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Yeah right.. if custom Rom developers can make kitkat run smoothly on one x than why can't htc ? They have a bigger development team..
StiQuezNL said:
It isn't completely HTC's fault. Nvidia has dropped support for the Tegra3 chipset, which makes it extremely hard for HTC to release and official Android 4.4 update since they don't have the necessary drivers.
However, I don't know how custom rom developers CAN get Android 4.4 running well on the HOX while HTC can't..
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KitKat ROM's available for our phone doesn't have Sense framework. Only AOSP or similar. So that's your answer. If Devs can build sense onto that then fair enough but Sense is closed source I believe so what can we do?!
Its close source that's why developers cant make kitkat Rom for oneX..
I am damn sure if it was open source, xda's great developers would have made sense based kitkat rom for hox
Ok . HTC CAN force nvidia to provide updates to tegra3 chips as Google had managed to get kitkat's kernel from nvidia for it's own variant if tegra3 chip on nexus 7 tablet
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Ok . HTC CAN force nvidia to provide updates to tegra3 chips as Google had managed to get kitkat's kernel from nvidia for it's own variant if tegra3 chip on nexus 7 tablet
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no HTC etc can't force them...they can ask if they could provide updates...but nvidia doesn't want that..the tegra 3 in nexus 7 is different to that in hox and is running also a bit better...for example games are running better etc...so hm
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KitKat ROM's available for our phone doesn't have Sense framework. Only AOSP or similar. So that's your answer. If Devs can build sense onto that then fair enough but Sense is closed source I believe so what can we do?!
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I know, but they've proven that KitKat AOSP runs smoothly on our One X. I think if KitKat AOSP can run on our phone, Sense 6 can too..?
But well, it won't happen... At least not as an official update.
mqazimi said:
Well, this is the reason why HTC is in the global position where it is. They do not care for their costumers, then we have our way to punish companies by boycotting their products.
If IPhone 4 can still receive updates (7.1 version) after almost 4 years, why our ONE X which are very good phones and powerfull can not receive 4.4 ?
See what the world thinks about your prodcuts; http://news.yahoo.com/htc-built-world-best-smartphone-nobody-cared-again-195440431.html
Be ready HTC for boycott. Will never ever taste your products. (This is my strongest position to f.... you up).
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It's due to the lack of drivers for our processor. While the other variants of HTC One X that uses a Qualcomm processor can have the new versions of Android and Sense. I believe they are already evaluating the 4.3 ROM for the Evita.
why htc don't update sense 6 for one x >"<~
nnthanh said:
why htc don't update sense 6 for one x >"<~
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best question!
nnthanh said:
why htc don't update sense 6 for one x >"<~
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Lol....
Because htc wanted you to ask this question here..