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New Android 3.8 kernel with Tegra support!!!

Sounds good for our HOX!!!!
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-working-experimental-38-linux-kernel-android

Will we get the latest kernel in the next update?
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noim said:
Will we get the latest kernel in the next update?
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Haha NO!
This is HTC....

Wilks3y said:
Haha NO!
This is HTC....
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Yip its HTC, but we have tripnraver and kholk.
Both normally try and port latest Kernel
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timlambo said:
Yip its HTC, but we have tripnraver and kholk.
Both normally try and port latest Kernel
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yep they both are great

It might be the sources of key lime pie who knows unless we see the init file of the kernel source code
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AW: New Android 3.8 kernel with Tegra support!!!
Everytime I see a thread about future update speculation I automatically remember...everytime my little three year old sister see's an ad, she say's: OMG I want to have it!...NOW!! She doesn't care about the product that's being advertised...
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Well, they didn't say WHICH Tegra version, did they my negative side says it's probably meant as Tegra 4> but the optimistic side says Tegra 3>

[Q] Android KitKat?

Do you think Android KitKat would be compatible with Wildfire? It is designed for lower end devices so would it be possible for a port of that new OS?

KoolKid98189 said:
Do you think Android KitKat would be compatible with Wildfire? It is designed for lower end devices so would it be possible for a port of that new OS?
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Probably not. while it may technically be possible to achieve it is highly unlikely that anyone will be able to do it successfully, or even partially.
Just my 2 pence.

heavy_metal_man said:
Probably not. while it may technically be possible to achieve it is highly unlikely that anyone will be able to do it successfully, or even partially.
Just my 2 pence.
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Fair but this could be a chance to breathe new life into our Wildfire, just saying.

KoolKid98189 said:
Fair but this could be a chance to breathe new life into our Wildfire, just saying.
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I agree that it could be a very good opportunity, im just saying dont get your hopes up i suppose :/ we just about got got 4.1.2 from this dev here . alot of the "main players" have moved on from this device and i dont think we would have the skill to manage this. to start off with we would need a 3.4 kernel i believe, and i dont think they re-introduced support for non gpu devices in 4.3 kitkat so we would need to implement all the hacks that were required to get ics running and port them over to kitkat.
its a nice idea, but to be honest i think the amount of hours it would need to make it function may not actually work towards a stable daily driver
i`m amazed the wildfire got this far to be honest, and im happy i was here for it

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I agree that it could be a very good opportunity, im just saying dont get your hopes up i suppose :/ we just about got got 4.1.2 from this dev here . alot of the "main players" have moved on from this device and i dont think we would have the skill to manage this. to start off with we would need a 3.4 kernel i believe, and i dont think they re-introduced support for non gpu devices in 4.3 kitkat so we would need to implement all the hacks that were required to get ics running and port them over to kitkat.
its a nice idea, but to be honest i think the amount of hours it would need to make it function may not actually work towards a stable daily driver
i`m amazed the wildfire got this far to be honest, and im happy i was here for it
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Yeah I to agree, also I wish there was a way to
So when android kitkat is released, I myself will try to port this, even if its not possible! I must still try
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port?
that's not a proper word, we'll have to build it from scratch.

Wasimk32 said:
port?
that's not a proper word, we'll have to build it from scratch.
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What is scratch ? You may say sources.And i think it's possible if erwin p and all the old dev come back and tried to build an new rom.
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Pator57 said:
What is scratch ? You may say sources.And i think it's possible if erwin p and all the old dev come back and tried to build an new rom.
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Scratch is basically start from the beginning, and it's always better to try making a KitKat ROM for Wildfire, you never know what the outcome could be right?

Wasimk32 said:
port?
that's not a proper word, we'll have to build it from scratch.
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What is scratch ? You may say sources.And i think it's possible if erwin p and all the old dev come back and tried to build an new rom.
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Both are real words, just used in different context :thumbup: but yeah it would be defiantly a build from scratch job (using our own source code we would have to make specific to the wildfire)
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So what we are waiting ?
For bigin, who is able to build or port an 4.2/4.3 kernel for our wildfire.
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Pator57 said:
So what we are waiting ?
For bigin, who is able to build or port an 4.2/4.3 kernel for our wildfire.
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Ah, now that is the real question. If the kernel doesn't get made then this is dead before it starts like.
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Pator57 said:
So what we are waiting ?
For bigin, who is able to build or port an 4.2/4.3 kernel for our wildfire.
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We are waiting for Android KitKat to be released, we need a device that has a QVGA screen with a resolution of 240 x 320 pixels

AFAIK it would run without a 3.4 or even a 3.8 kernel. But the current 2.6 kernel would slow it down. Only very experienced devs can make properly working kernels. And we have almost no 'real' "i build from source" dev left in this forum. (not offensive, i appreciate the work of any dev/porter/whatever here )
4.1 is also running fine with that old arco - kernel but its really slow maybe because of the hardware maybe because of the kernel. I think its a mix of both components.

I tried with @kylon to get a functioning overclock kernel for the htc wildfire bee, (cdma device) and we couldn't manage to get it stable, and that's the buzz's sister phone. It shares almost all the same hardware :/ so I don't think it will be an easy task.
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miniAndroidian said:
AFAIK it would run without a 3.4 or even a 3.8 kernel. But the current 2.6 kernel would slow it down. Only very experienced devs can make properly working kernels. And we have almost no 'real' "i build from source" dev left in this forum. (not offensive, i appreciate the work of any dev/porter/whatever here )
4.1 is also running fine with that old arco - kernel but its really slow maybe because of the hardware maybe because of the kernel. I think its a mix of both components.
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Yea i know that all the dev have left the wildfire, but we can always learn and tried to building one.
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Pator57 said:
Yea i know that all the dev have left the wildfire, but we can always learn and tried to building one.
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Yeah, hopefully this could be a success

KoolKid98189 said:
Yeah, hopefully this could be a success
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Just my 2p worth but doesn't kitkat and the kernel associated with it look for integrated GPU's which the wildfire simply doesn't have, so if someone was to create a kernel for kitkat you would have to emulate a GPU on the CPU which would slow down the phone to a unusable piece of crap.
Good idea but i doubt it's viable.

DosKey123 said:
Just my 2p worth but doesn't kitkat and the kernel associated with it look for integrated GPU's which the wildfire simply doesn't have, so if someone was to create a kernel for kitkat you would have to emulate a GPU on the CPU which would slow down the phone to a unusable piece of crap.
Good idea but i doubt it's viable.
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Agreed. Ics barely ran without the kernel hacks to make it run. Though it is said that kitkat should be less resource hungry.
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heavy_metal_man said:
Agreed. Ics barely ran without the kernel hacks to make it run. Though it is said that kitkat should be less resource hungry.
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Yeah but did ICS have no GPU support? If it did then try porting the ICS hacks to KitKat and see how it goes.

KoolKid98189 said:
Yeah but did ICS have no GPU support? If it did then try porting the ICS hacks to KitKat and see how it goes.
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While it's possible I have no idea what hacks were done to make it work. We needed kernel hacks for gingerbread.... The only one that would definitely know would be Arco, as he was the kernel developer for the buzz branch of cyanogenmod. I think most of the work on cm7 and 9 were arcos work, with some help from the guys here of course
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Custom kernel

When will see some custom kernels? If we have cm 10.2 ROMs thejbwe should have kernels right.
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coldconfession13 said:
When will see some custom kernels? If we have cm 10.2 ROMs thejbwe should have kernels right.
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Htc has to release the source code first. Please bug them on Twitter or HTC Dev
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But isn't cm 10.2 a custom kernel
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coldconfession13 said:
But isn't cm 10.2 a custom kernel
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You really need to give it some time. The Verizon One is still new and locked because of yours truly. I'm just as anxious as you are but development takes time; especially with devices on VZW.

DroidOnRoids said:
You really need to give it some time. The Verizon One is still new and locked because of yours truly. I'm just as anxious as you are but development takes time; especially with devices on VZW.
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+1 very well said.
Patience is a virtue in the Android world.

I've got one in the works
EDIT: It's not gonna be anything major or groundbreaking right now, but it'll be based on cm's and have most of the cool features on m7ul custom kernels

From what I've read the international LTE kernel source is what is being used to make custom kernels for our device. I haven't seen it implemented yet, so it would be great to see a kernel with system write protection disabled.
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xenakis said:
From what I've read the international LTE kernel source is what is being used to make custom kernels for our device. I haven't seen it implemented yet, so it would be great to see a kernel with system write protection disabled.
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Those kernels are for AOSP. For a sense kernel, you would probably be better off waiting for kernel source to drop from HTC

sonicxml said:
Those kernels are for AOSP. For a sense kernel, you would probably be better off waiting for kernel source to drop from HTC
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Unfortunately, waiting on HTC to drop kernel source is like waiting on a Verizon OTA lol
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DroidOnRoids said:
Unfortunately, waiting on HTC to drop kernel source is like waiting on a Verizon OTA lol
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maybe verizon is making htc delay on releasing kernel source to try and slow down development lol

DroidOnRoids said:
Unfortunately, waiting on HTC to drop kernel source is like waiting on a Verizon OTA lol
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Except HTC is legally required to release the code in a timely fashion. The code will not drop until after 4.3 is out and they usually take 2-3 months to release it. It has absolutely no bearing on an exploit or root. When the DNA got the 2.04 update, HTC took about a month to release it. AOSP kernels like CM do not rely on this. Luckily, the M7 has a nice device tree so whoever is maintaining it now (I am assuming flyhalf) does not need to modify it drastically (much much unlike the DNA). So CM wise, we seem to be fine. You will not see a custom sense kernel until the source is released.

123421342 said:
Except HTC is legally required to release the code in a timely fashion. The code will not drop until after 4.3 is out and they usually take 2-3 months to release it. It has absolutely no bearing on an exploit or root. When the DNA got the 2.04 update, HTC took about a month to release it. AOSP kernels like CM do not rely on this. Luckily, the M7 has a nice device tree so whoever is maintaining it now (I am assuming flyhalf) does not need to modify it drastically (much much unlike the DNA). So CM wise, we seem to be fine. You will not see a custom sense kernel until the source is released.
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That never happens lol only for GE HTC One it was released the same day or something
As for kernel, it could be patched from international One but then it would be a hacky impllementation.. imo not good. Because most AOSP ROMs are based of a derivative of the CM One kernel, the CDMA Ones use this same kernel: maybe there are a few patches to get it working but most of it is just from the international AOSP kernels.
Thats why there are Verizon AOSP kernels and not sense kernels. No one has patched a sense kernel to work on Verizon yet (whether they can't or are simply waiting for proper source is irrelevant, however I would lean towards the latter)

i not???

poondog said:
That never happens lol only for GE HTC One it was released the same day or something
As for kernel, it could be patched from international One but then it would be a hacky impllementation.. imo not good. Because most AOSP ROMs are based of a derivative of the CM One kernel, the CDMA Ones use this same kernel: maybe there are a few patches to get it working but most of it is just from the international AOSP kernels.
Thats why there are Verizon AOSP kernels and not sense kernels. No one has patched a sense kernel to work on Verizon yet (whether they can't or are simply waiting for proper source is irrelevant, however I would lean towards the latter)
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Whassup my vivo brethren...? I may try to patch said kernel to Verizon soon...no promises though.

123421342 said:
Except HTC is legally required to release the code in a timely fashion. The code will not drop until after 4.3 is out and they usually take 2-3 months to release it. It has absolutely no bearing on an exploit or root. When the DNA got the 2.04 update, HTC took about a month to release it. AOSP kernels like CM do not rely on this. Luckily, the M7 has a nice device tree so whoever is maintaining it now (I am assuming flyhalf) does not need to modify it drastically (much much unlike the DNA). So CM wise, we seem to be fine. You will not see a custom sense kernel until the source is released.
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Yeah...But whether they actually do it or not is another thing. "Timely" isn't actually defined very concretely.
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coldconfession13 said:
But isn't cm 10.2 a custom kernel
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The reason there is AOSP source even though there is no Verizon kernel source is because CM commonizes the kernels by related device families to minimize the amount of work that needs to go into it. There is one and only one kernel for all the M7 variants, with a couple options changed, etc, but it's the exact same source tree.

brymaster5000 said:
Whassup my vivo brethren...? I may try to patch said kernel to Verizon soon...no promises though.
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Hathoiught i might see one of you guys here one day.. Hopefully I get my One back from repair (having huge issues with their and my carriers services) so I can start doing stuff to it
I reckon there's not much harm in waiting, and that's better for the long run anyway

Has anyone tried flashing faux123's kernel that states it works on all carriers except Sprint?
The 4.2.2 version?

brymaster5000 said:
Has anyone tried flashing faux123's kernel that states it works on all carriers except Sprint?
The 4.2.2 version?
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If it doesnt work on sprint, a cdma carrier, why would it work for verizon?

123421342 said:
If it doesnt work on sprint, a cdma carrier, why would it work for verizon?
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I was thinking that because it is 4GLTE (which I read was bridging the gap between CDMA and GSM...or eventually going to), it may work. We ported a kernel from the international Incredible 2 (GSM) onto the Verizon Incredible 2 (CDMA) without issues...
Just thinking out loud.

brymaster5000 said:
I was thinking that because it is 4GLTE (which I read was bridging the gap between CDMA and GSM...or eventually going to), it may work. We ported a kernel from the international Incredible 2 (GSM) onto the Verizon Incredible 2 (CDMA) without issues...
Just thinking out loud.
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As long as there is ril support and all drivers work then it's a simple build prop tweak
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Android 4.4 Source released!

Hi everyone,
Here is the link for the android 4.4 kit-kat source. We can experience a new version of android . It is not a rom, is only the source to make a rom, hope we can enjoy one rom in a short time!!
https://android.googlesource.com/platform/build/+/kitkat-release

We will get it only if 4.2, 4.3 kernel can be used for 4.4. Else we will have to wait

The nexus 7 will get 4.4?
If the nexus 7 will get the new version it be more easy to port it to the HOX?
because the have the same CPU Tegra 3?
or i am wrong?

liran82 said:
If the nexus 7 will get the new version it be more easy to port it to the HOX?
because the have the same CPU Tegra 3?
or i am wrong?
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not completely true...i read this somewhere

deathgame said:
We will get it only if 4.2, 4.3 kernel can be used for 4.4. Else we will have to wait
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nvidia already released a new kernel for tegra 3 devices to work with 4.4
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and313 said:
nvidia already released a new kernel for tegra 3 devices to work with 4.4
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If nvidia has updated the tegra 3 kernel for android 4.4, I think that HTC is going to update the HTC One X to android 4.4, it can be the most sure updated, but all of us know what is the HTC update system.......

deathgame said:
not completely true...i read this somewhere
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Nexus 7 runs snapdragon s4 pro processor.
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desiretouchpad said:
Nexus 7 runs snapdragon s4 pro processor.
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Previous generation n7 was tegra 3.... but it's a tablet with no calling abilities.

parkentosh said:
Previous generation n7 was tegra 3.... but it's a tablet with no calling abilities.
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Ah OK learn something new everyday
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parkentosh said:
Previous generation n7 was tegra 3.... but it's a tablet with no calling abilities.
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actually this is wrong the N7 Tegra 3 chip is different than ours it`s newer

ExoticMe said:
actually this is wrong the N7 Tegra 3 chip is different than ours it`s newer
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That wasn't the point. The point was that there is a nexus device associated with nvidia..
Edit: As i've understood the difference between t30 and t30l is not very big. The difference between t30 and t33 (hox+) is much greater...
Edit2: It seems that while the tegra in n7 is newer the one in our phone is faster. The t30l seems to be just clocked lower (cpu, gpu and ram)

parkentosh said:
That wasn't the point. The point was that there is a nexus device associated with nvidia..
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Either way it wouldn't make any difference

if only pabx would make one.

Bendary said:
if only pabx would make one.
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+1!!!!
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jarein95 said:
Hi everyone,
Here is the link for the android 4.4 kit-kat source. We can experience a new version of android . It is not a rom, is only the source to make a rom, hope we can enjoy one rom in a short time!!
https://android.googlesource.com/platform/build/+/kitkat-release
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N4 users already testing KitKat
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508720
Hope some good devs will bring the flavour as well to One X users
I still have HOX so maybe one day I'll build

MaxFTW said:
N4 users already testing KitKat
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508720
Hope some good devs will bring the flavour as well to One X users
I still have HOX so maybe one day I'll build
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Maxio I am happy to see you here!
Enjoy the kitkat version, because for sure that update seems to be really fast and amazing!
Hope the HOX can experiment that update soon, but not waitting to htc release, because they stopped our HOX updated!
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jarein95 said:
Maxio I am happy to see you here!
Enjoy the kitkat version, because for sure that update seems to be really fast and amazing!
Hope the HOX can experiment that update soon, but not waitting to htc release, because they stopped our HOX updated!
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no they didn't stopped...or better no one knows...we also could get at least 4.3...but we will see with time

Nvidia released the Tegra source for 4.4 KitKat, its now up to HTC to release an update for the One X, unless they pull another money making move like what they did to the Desire HD
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They won't make any move because they won't announce any update. They won't repeat the same fiasco as with ICS for DHD.

geojoking said:
They won't make any move because they won't announce any update. They won't repeat the same fiasco as with ICS for DHD.
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Or with JB on Sensation :S

everyone has 4.4 but us you've gotta be kidding me...

even the defy i had now have a cm11 build(pretty good even! they have 250+ ram free most stuff works)
and we dont get it on a great device such as out hox?
what is the status of trying and running the 4.4?
is the devices status that bad when it comes to new versions?(the defy dont even have an open bootloader, at all!)

yossi2010 said:
even the defy i had now have a cm11 build(pretty good even! they have 250+ ram free most stuff works)
and we dont get it on a great device such as out hox?
what is the status of trying and running the 4.4?
is the devices status that bad when it comes to new versions?(the defy dont even have an open bootloader, at all!)
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Well... Its been said a thousand times read through the general threads
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What always worried me about HoX development is that the hardware is very similar to the 3G nexus 7 2012 which gets its source code released,
i know there must be different things, different brand ram, the nexus 7 has a slower version of the Tegra 3, not sure if the radio, bluetooth and sensor chips are the same,
and the screen controller is clearly different.

Even the evita now has a cynaogenmod 11 build out
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Tegra . Tegra......
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xeloni said:
Tegra . Tegra......
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... Amazing really. A couple posts above someone mentioned the nexus 7 has 4.4. Now suddenly the tegra chipset is the problem again. It is htc not releasing sources for **** sake people. Its no wonder we dont achieve anything as a whole.
We have thomy a great dev but his hands are tied without sources. We would be rockin cm11 for sure by now
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2011 Sony Ericsson Xperia Devices Taste Android 4.4 KitKat
Also xperia devices not have code from sony but the developers have only complicated by the codes and are 4.4 ///I'm with 3.8.0 kernel jb !!!

It not just kernel source I think...because it seem LG optimus 4x hd where have same chipset as us already have kit kat. Please let our dev focus on bringing stable 4.3 first.
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audahadi said:
It not just kernel source I think...because it seem LG optimus 4x hd where have same chipset as us already have kit kat. Please let our dev focus on bringing stable 4.3 first.
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We don't need 4.3 the changes between 4.2.2.and 4.3 is to small we need the new 4.4 directly

One X seem be dead. Miui discontinued support for porting HOX on official site of Miui

Why not make a petition to get HTC releasing the kernel source code? I've already tell them on twitter to stop violating GPL

Or we will go with the old kernels if we want cm11. This could also happen
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Yeah, you're right, but this doesn't make any sense.
HTC have to release the source so the dev can work on it!
Damn you HTC, I'm glad you're failing.

and313 said:
... Amazing really. A couple posts above someone mentioned the nexus 7 has 4.4. Now suddenly the tegra chipset is the problem again. It is htc not releasing sources for **** sake people. Its no wonder we dont achieve anything as a whole.
We have thomy a great dev but his hands are tied without sources. We would be rockin cm11 for sure by now
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Have you done ROM development on a new android release for a device?
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Lloir said:
Have you done ROM development on a new android release for a device?
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No. Im just saying what the devs said. Waiting for sources
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and313 said:
No. Im just saying what the devs said. Waiting for sources
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The Motorola defy doesn't even have an open bootloader they use a software trick called 2ndinit to boot into a custom recovery.
I bet they don't have kernel source either yet they have come from 2.1 until 4.4 with a mere gingerbread base.
How comes can't we do the same trick?

yossi2010 said:
The Motorola defy doesn't even have an open bootloader they use a software trick called 2ndinit to boot into a custom recovery.
I bet they don't have kernel source either yet they have come from 2.1 until 4.4 with a mere gingerbread base.
How comes can't we do the same trick?
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Because as said devs are waiting for sources which means they want to use the new one because they are more updated as the old ones which means more customization. Something in that way. Nothing stays in the way using a old kernel though. But when new sources are released they need to port it again. Something in that way again
So nobody wants to work for free double time... Which is normal i guess
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Some time ago I read that HTC got no other choice besides releasing kernel source because of some legal stuff.
Is this true? If it is it's just a matter of time and we will definitely get the new kernel source and 4.4
Also we could use this argument to force HTC to release the source faster.

We have passed the land of arguments very long ago and now we are in the land of get a lawyer and a looot of money or forget about it
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Maybe you guys should flood HTC's social media channels with kernel source requests.
It's really rediculous they haven't release 4.2.2 kernel sources yet.
I know OEM's really dislike negative attention via social media so that's probably the best way.