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Jellybean - say goodbye to lag!

Important news for all Android owners but particularly to hox owners..... Now starts the long wait for the update!
http://m.engadget.com/2012/06/27/project-butter-improves-android-4-1s-speed/?icid=eng_latest_art

and the processor will swing into full gear the moment you touch the screen to keep input lag to a minimum
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Arghhh my battery!!!

Let's hope we have 4.1 on our awesome device very soon!
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Nexus 7 tablet cames with Android 4.1 ?
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vladnosferatu said:
Nexus 7 tablet cames with Android 4.1 ?
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yes it does

Is 4.1 even jellybean? Surely jellybean would be 5.x?
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Nexus 7 has a tegra 3 processor. Is this means we can get 4.1 faster?

leventccc said:
Nexus 7 has a tegra 3 processor. Is this means we can get 4.1 faster?
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no not really..first is the Google Nexus phones and then all the rest
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JimmyEatFood said:
Is 4.1 even jellybean? Surely jellybean would be 5.x?
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4.1 is jellybean mate

Goku80 said:
no not really..first is the Google Nexus phones and then all the rest
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I think he meant that it's maybe easier for devs to port it, since both are Tegra 3 devices

JimmyEatFood said:
Is 4.1 even jellybean? Surely jellybean would be 5.x?
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No as jellybean is only minor update really in terms of layout anyway. it would be 5x if it was a huge update. Like if they changed the UI
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Goku80 said:
no not really..first is the Google Nexus phones and then all the rest
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4.1 is jellybean mate
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I know htc will not release it soon but I thought same processor can make porting process faster for developers of tegra 3 devices am I totally wrong?

I'm curious to see how long this will take to officially make it to our phones by OTA. Seeing as there's no UI changes really HTC don't have to change much with Sense, but I can still see this taking till 2013 lol.

No your not wrong. Porting may be easier because the soc is the same so driver's etc will be easier. Most of the work should be done basically since they both use tegra 3. But don't expect it till a while. Especially not from htc unless they pull a surprise.
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Froyo was released may 20th 2010 and I can remember it getting it on my desire around mid juli, that's not to bad of htc. I can imagine gb to ics would take more time but the step from ics to jb is about as big as from eclair to froyo

leventccc said:
I know htc will not release it soon but I thought same processor can make porting process faster for developers of tegra 3 devices am I totally wrong?
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Partly right, but there is a lot more than just the Tegra 3 SoC to require drivers for. It looks as if the overall system updates are fairly minimal (at least compared to GB->ICS which had big driver rewrites). We'll have to see how much can be reused from what we have for ICS and hopefully device tree changes will be minimal.
Might almost be time to start flashing the One X! :victory:

JB will arrive soon because Google announced PDT and JB PDT is already with major manufacturers so you should expect JB soon
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Nice new feature in the JellyBean but I don't think that HTC can ever give us the same buttery smooth experience. One more reason why should manufacturers also make available clean Android OS at least as a optional flashable RUU. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING. do it Google.
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madik_ said:
Nice new feature in the JellyBean but I don't think that HTC can ever give us the same buttery smooth experience. One more reason why should manufacturers also make available clean Android OS at least as a optional flashable RUU. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING. do it Google.
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Not to be a buzz kill or anything but that wouldn't really work... You would need a new one for every device which isn't possible.. that's why they do just that (well, provide images) for their supported devices, the nexi. It would be up to HTC, and, quite frankly, that's never going to happen as i'ts not in their interest.
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I'm very glad to see that they're working on the smoothness. Can't wait for the port!

Nit3m4re said:
I'm curious to see how long this will take to officially make it to our phones by OTA. Seeing as there's no UI changes really HTC don't have to change much with Sense, but I can still see this taking till 2013 lol.
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The changes in UI would be pretty much the thing which bothers OEM the less...
As they do their own on the top, the major issues for them is the framework in the background (yes, there is an ecosystem behind what you see on the screen ^^)
So, they need to adjust sense etc to the new changes introduced by Jellybean (thinking of the new syncing and triple buffering) But yeah... Normally it shouldn't take long to make a fully bugged and craploaded sense for JB... but they will take 6 month min I'm afraid...
(Or will it be as on the Desire ? -> The phone is not powerfull enough to handle a minor update :silly: )

Sense 5 ROM?

This video shows Sense 5 on One S, now I guess someone could develop a Sense 5 ROM for the One X before HTC releases the update?. Or will this just be a waste of time to develop?, because HTC will release the update "soon". But I'd love to see a Sense 5 (not just Sense 5 themed) ROM for the One X

joeystar said:
This video shows that Sense 5 ROM is possible on the One S, now I guessing this would also be possible for the One X too?. Or will this just be a waste of time?, but I'd love to see a Sense 5 (not just Sense 5 themed) ROM for the One X
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It was mentioned many times before that One X/X+ have different Tegra3 chipset which makes it difficult to port from other phones.

Vcek said:
It was mentioned many times before that One X/X+ have different Tegra3 chipset which makes it difficult to port from other phones.
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That, and there is no point in porting Sense 5 ROM since this or next month we will get an official release.

AdrianM said:
That, and there is no point in porting Sense 5 ROM since this or next month we will get an official release.
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Or at least that we think..when has HTC been on time on its releases??

amirage said:
Or at least that we think..when has HTC been on time on its releases??
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Actually, some time ago, HTC was the OEM that had the fastest updates. Of course, the keyword is WAS, so you are right on this one.
I think it's hard to port a rom from Qualcomm platform to Tegra 3, and that's the reason none of the great developers tried to do it so far. I'm not a developer, so I might be wrong about this.

AdrianM said:
Actually, some time ago, HTC was the OEM that had the fastest updates. Of course, the keyword is WAS, so you are right on this one.
I think it's hard to port a rom from Qualcomm platform to Tegra 3, and that's the reason none of the great developers tried to do it so far. I'm not a developer, so I might be wrong about this.
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Yes, you are right...it's difficult to port a One S rom to X not only that they have diff chipsets..they have entirely diff hardwares...so porting is really out of the question...what i'd like to know how did the dude get his hand on a leaked version...and why isn't there one for the One X!!

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Yes, you are right...it's difficult to port a One S rom to X not only that they have diff chipsets..they have entirely diff hardwares...so porting is really out of the question...what i'd like to know how did the dude get his hand on a leaked version...and why isn't there one for the One X!!
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Yesterday mike1986 and torxx got their hands on the Release version of 4.2.2 with Sense 5 for HTC One .
It seems that torxx is the one who posted Sense 5 on One S too. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2298253
They know people... :laugh:
A one X version is probably ready to leak soon.

AdrianM said:
Yesterday mike1986 and torxx got their hands on the Release version of 4.2.2 with Sense 5 for HTC One .
It seems that torxx is the one who posted Sense 5 on One S too. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2298253
They know people... :laugh:
A one X version is probably ready to leak soon.
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Lets hope!

Yo guys look at this http://recombu.com/mobile/news/htc-one-x-sense-5-hands-on_M19397.html

fuad541 said:
Yo guys look at this http://recombu.com/mobile/news/htc-one-x-sense-5-hands-on_M19397.html
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Not being a final release Sense 5 ROM for the Evita - the Qualcomm version of the One X, it’s not perfect. Features like Bluetooth, the FM radio and stock WiFi tethering don’t work, not to mention unique HTC One (and now One mini) features like HTC ZOE photos aren’t possible.

Man wait for the update its coming nxt month.
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manikdhir said:
Man wait for the update its coming nxt month.
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HaHaHaHa yea right. :laugh:. Don't expect anything from HTC they suck :silly:

Gunman84 said:
HaHaHaHa yea right. :laugh:. Don't expect anything from HTC they suck :silly:
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they have already released the update hox+ n now in 1 or 2 weeks they r gonna make it for hox!!..

[DEV]Porting Sense 5 from One X+

Hello I am trying to port Sense 5 from One XL to One X tegra
I am able to get upto boot animation however cannot go further
I am attaching logcat if anyone is willing to help
Maximus HD Sense 5.0 is released
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2410320&page=2
Please stay on topic and no trolling or hate posts.
EDIT:
trying with ONE X+ build.
ROMs posted in thread are for Devs only and are highly unstable and can damage your phone. If you do not know what you are doing please stay away.
logcat1 : http://pastebin.com/UKS2QkPy
logcat2 : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/92848413/logcat.txt
Logcat 3: http://pastebin.com/e3FGRsZj (AudioPolicyService not published)

but htc will relase this summer the sense 5 update for our one x...it s better to wait i suppose..
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@smokin
Soz mate I wouldn't know where to start with this but, although we may be getting an update soon, it would be awesome to see if it works! I will also be willing to test anything

Slok 00 said:
but htc will relase this summer the sense 5 update for our one x...it s better to wait i suppose..
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Yes ,so say the rumors,

If you need help, i can help you! Anyways in this forum we are allhere to help each other!
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I'm in also. want to share with us the work you have done so far so that we can use the same source?

MemAllocatoR said:
I'm in also. want to share with us the work you have done so far so that we can use the same source?
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at work now will upload the and let you know when i get home

MemAllocatoR said:
I'm in also. want to share with us the work you have done so far so that we can use the same source?
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at work now will upload the and let you know when i get home

Why the ROM doesn't work on the international HOX?
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gianmarco957 said:
Why the ROM doesn't work on the international HOX?
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Because the international HOX is Tegra 3 and the other devices which has tge sense 5 port are snappdragon and the Htc One is snappdragon! XD
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I agree with the others, stating you could use the time for other stuff.
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TimeWasterNL said:
I agree with the others, stating you could use the time for other stuff.
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up to the op though aint it really! besides it could be the year 3000 when htc get their arses in gear lol

I think its great idea! Not all of us will update, the devices branded 4 example. Sorry for my terrible english =-O
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jarein95 said:
Because the international HOX is Tegra 3 and the other devices which has tge sense 5 port are snappdragon and the Htc One is snappdragon! XD
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I hate tegra!
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gianmarco957 said:
I hate tegra!
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But it still give nice graphics in tegra games..i think next generation would be much better
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In all honesty.. this will be my last tegra device.. Battery life is horrid, it heats up quite often without underclocking, and its not as fast as I thought it would be.. Next device will have a snapdragon again HTC One mini perhaps?

Agil1ty said:
In all honesty.. this will be my last tegra device.. Battery life is horrid, it heats up quite often without underclocking, and its not as fast as I thought it would be.. Next device will have a snapdragon again HTC One mini perhaps?
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I hate all the devices with the name "... mini"

Agil1ty said:
In all honesty.. this will be my last tegra device.. Battery life is horrid, it heats up quite often without underclocking, and its not as fast as I thought it would be.. Next device will have a snapdragon again HTC One mini perhaps?
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Do you really think that snapdragon version has better battery life? Almost every phone is not as fast as ppl wants to, ofc its working super fast when you buy it but right after you install apps and games it slows down :/ At least with tegra we have some nice graphics in game and something diffrent then everyone

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Do you really think that snapdragon version has better battery life? Almost every phone is not as fast as ppl wants to, ofc its working super fast when you buy it but right after you install apps and games it slows down :/ At least with tegra we have some nice graphics in game and something diffrent then everyone
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To be honest, snapdragon 400 and 600 are both more power efficient and dont heat up as much... I can't browse the internet on my HOX for 3 hours, because it'll be empty after 2.. It just sux, and I hope sense 5 will bring some much needed optimizations

Agil1ty said:
To be honest, snapdragon 400 and 600 are both more power efficient and dont heat up as much... I can't browse the internet on my HOX for 3 hours, because it'll be empty after 2.. It just sux, and I hope sense 5 will bring some much needed optimizations
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Hmmm, what is ur setting?
i can reach to 5h screen on, with surfering internet by 3g. With wifi may be more
i use 50% brightness

New Kernel Source 3.4.10

nearly every phone except Endeavor got the new kernel source (including evita). is that means that they stopped developing on the one x?

ereneren564 said:
nearly every phone except Endeavor got the new kernel source (including evita). is that means that they stopped developing on the one x?
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i think with new big update frmo htc we will get newer kernel

One-X-master said:
i think with new big update frmo htc we will get newer kernel
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you see since that they released it for one s too i cant be really sure

ereneren564 said:
you see since that they released it for one s too i cant be really sure
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It also depends on nvidia...we have a tegra inside and the one s snapdragon...and with every big update a newer kernel came out...lol
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ereneren564 said:
nearly every phone except Endeavor got the new kernel source (including evita). is that means that they stopped developing on the one x?
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from the first day they sell one x, one x's kernel version is older than other devices

One-X-master is right.
It was related to nVidia and Qualcomm.
Qualcomm is faster than others, not really wanted to write much regarding this.
I believed someone here on xda can write essays on the topic.

One-X-master said:
It also depends on nvidia...we have a tegra inside and the one s snapdragon...and with every big update a newer kernel came out...lol
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well linus Torvalds said **** you nVidia read here http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/linus-torvalds-says-f-k-you-to-nvidia/ having said that it also depends on phone manufacturer Nexus 4 has most latest kernel.

smokin901 said:
well linus Torvalds said **** you nVidia read here http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/linus-torvalds-says-f-k-you-to-nvidia/ having said that it also depends on phone manufacturer Nexus 4 has most latest kernel.
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Nexus 4 has a qualcomm/snapdragon processor....therefore it also has More newer kernel releases then one x...and it shouldn't be a problem...theywill release if its really necessary ....
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One-X-master said:
Nexus 4 has a qualcomm/snapdragon processor....therefore it also has More newer kernel releases then one x...and it shouldn't be a problem...theywill release if its really necessary ....
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No i meant more newer version than even qualcomm based HTC devices

smokin901 said:
No i meant more newer version than even qualcomm based HTC devices
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Ah okay yes...hm ah I don't care about that ...
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smokin901 said:
No i meant more newer version than even qualcomm based HTC devices
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Uh, HTC One uses 3.4.10, Nexus 4 uses 3.4.0. I don't see how Nexus 4 has a newer kernel

pandaball said:
Uh, HTC One uses 3.4.10, Nexus 4 uses 3.4.0. I don't see how Nexus 4 has a newer kernel
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I my memory serves me correctly one of my colleague's N4 had 3.6 kernel

smokin901 said:
I my memory serves me correctly one of my colleague's N4 had 3.6 kernel
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That's probably a custom kernel. I know the stock N4 kernel is 3.4.0 for 4.2.2
Anyway, we've digressed from the topic at hand (not that there was much to discuss about to begin with )

Nvidia is the problem. The Nexus 7 with Tegra 3 is also still @ 3.1.x :/

theliquid said:
Nvidia is the problem. The Nexus 7 with Tegra 3 is also still @ 3.1.x :/
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Nah. Google never updates the kernel after a device has been released. It has always been like that for Nexus devices.

pandaball said:
Nah. Google never updates the kernel after a device has been released. It has always been like that for Nexus devices.
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Lol
Look at Third party Linux OS
They have 3.8 now lol
Its all Google's and OEM reluctantacy
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razer1224 said:
Lol
Look at Third party Linux OS
They have 3.8 now lol
Its all Google's and OEM reluctantacy
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Your point being...?
As far as the Linux kernel goes, while they merged some patches to allow for Android to run on the mainline Linux branch, the Android kernel is more or less a fork of the Linux kernel to enable full compatibility with Android and ARM. Its not exactly the easiest thing to do, so of course the Android kernel is behind the mainline Linux kernel. Besides, whatever kernel 4.3 runs on will be the kernel that OEMs use, since the kernel base is already there and it saves OEMs time. Mainline Linux moves forward much faster than Android's yearly releases so you can't expect the Android kernel to keep up with the mainline kernel.
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pandaball said:
Your point being...?
As far as the Linux kernel goes, while they merged some patches to allow for Android to run on the mainline Linux branch, the Android kernel is more or less a fork of the Linux kernel to enable full compatibility with Android and ARM. Its not exactly the easiest thing to do, so of course the Android kernel is behind the mainline Linux kernel. Besides, whatever kernel 4.3 runs on will be the kernel that OEMs use, since the kernel base is already there and it saves OEMs time. Mainline Linux moves forward much faster than Android's yearly releases so you can't expect the Android kernel to keep up with the mainline kernel.
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i know but still
atleast 3.6 should be suffice on 2013

razer1224 said:
i know but still
atleast 3.6 should be suffice on 2013
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Given that there hasn't been any Android update out this year, no one will move beyond 3.4 until Google does so. What features are there in 3.6 that are absolutely necessary anyway? It seems to me like you want an update to 3.6 because it has a larger number

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Given that there hasn't been any Android update out this year, no one will move beyond 3.4 until Google does so. What features are there in 3.6 that are absolutely necessary anyway? It seems to me like you want an update to 3.6 because it has a larger number
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Yep I also don't get it why always newer if its not always better
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Swap HOX for HTC One Mini

Hi ive been offered a swap for my HOX for a HTC one Mini
Should i or shouldn't i?
Your thoughts
Thxs

I think that device comparison threads are not allowed..
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athulele said:
I think that device comparison threads are not allowed..
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Oh sorry i didnt know

bornnslippy said:
Oh sorry i didnt know
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Check your Personal Messages (PM)
Have sent you one.
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Devices is no problem, it's rom comparison (software) that's not allowed.

Mr Hofs said:
Devices is no problem, it's rom comparison (software) that's not allowed.
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I see, nevermind we solved it through pm
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It all depends what you want from the device. I would go for the bigger screen and performance
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and313 said:
It all depends what you want from the device. I would go for the bigger screen and performance
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One mini has smaller screen than the one x. 4.3" 720p
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I would still go for the One X. Mainly because of the better camera, processor and the screen size, boomsound isn't necessary for me right now
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I would go for one mini, its a newer phone and just better user expirience using it, and if you are not happy, just sell it and buy one x again with some spare money left, no brainer for me.

Just from the POV of software updates, the One Mini is a much better choice. As we all know the HOX has been abandoned.

geojoking said:
Just from the POV of software updates, the One Mini is a much better choice. As we all know the HOX has been abandoned.
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yea abandoned if the official way...but there are still devs who will support this device a bit longer

One-X-master said:
yea abandoned if the official way...but there are still devs who will support this device a bit longer
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But only a small bit. In the future, a new version of android will come out, only for it to be impossible to port it to this phone because of its CPU and the lack of kernel sources because Nvidia ditched it.
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humzaahmed155 said:
But only a small bit. In the future, a new version of android will come out, only for it to be impossible to port it to this phone because of its CPU and the lack of kernel sources because Nvidia ditched it.
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Nobody knows that for sure. We may get it or not. Devs build on old sources cm11 first and it worked so we will see
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and313 said:
Nobody knows that for sure. We may get it or not. Devs build on old sources cm11 first and it worked so we will see
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It's correct, but in past there are much devices, wich are no longer supported so much after HTC kill official update way. And for Users who love the Sense UI (e. g. me) it is better to go to a new phone from HTC to get updates.
BTW: i think it is better to wait a little bit (a few months) with buying a new HTC Phone. If HTC launched new One M8 phone, the old M7 will be cheaper.

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