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[Q] I'm stuck with Clockworkmod 2.5.0.7 recovery !!

I cannot upgrade to a newer version of Clockworkmod recovery !
I have tried everything, fastboot flash returns failed signature verification, rom manger also cannot update to a newer version.
Also tried Unrevoked but it fails.
the phone is rooted and I have flashed several ROMs in the past without any problem.
Any idea?

Fastboot flash doesn't return verification failed error.
You need to be s-off to change recover using fastboot. Before you do anything, read some tutorials, you need to differentiate among most basic terms.
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erklat said:
Fastboot flash doesn't return verification failed error.
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It can do if you try to fastboot flash connected in hboot or are s-on

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I get this error from fastboot
< waiting for device >
sending 'recovery' (3256 KB)... OKAY [ 0.468s]
writing 'recovery'... INFOsignature checking...
FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)
finished. total time: 0.952s
I have tried to flash clockworkmod 5 and also tried the touch version, but with no luck.
Maybe the S-OFF is messed up, but only if rom manager did something wrong, because last time when I have upgraded the recovery it was from ROM Manager.

Fail on my part...
That seems like there is no device tho. My money is on broken drivers. There is a guide how to do in development so search for it as it works 100%.

unrevoked connects to phone, sends the file to phone then at the end it fails.
I have tried revolutionary for S-OFF the program connects to phone then displays the phone serial number, asks for the key then after I enter the key, the connection is lost.
So I really don't know what to do anymore, and I need a newer recovery since the one which I have does not have options to partition the SD Card and ICS is eating a lot of memory without SDExt.
The phone is ok, it's not broken, I flash every 2-3 days a newer ICS ROM and it works.

why dont you try a different recovery.i have been using ext4 recovery for a while and imo it is way better than cwm....

I use clockworkmod because I have purchased the ROM manager tool and it works with their recovery.
I finally managed to flash a newer clockworkmod recovery and very strange after reboot it has reverted back to the old 2.5.0.7 version !!! At least I was able to partition my sd-ext...
I have tried the boot CD with alpha-rev it freezes in the final stage, but after that I was able to flash the new recovery using the recovery itself, but as I said after reboot the new recovery has gone !
Now I have tried to flash again a newer recovery from ROM manager it says it finished successful, but the recovery still remains 2.5.0.7

evolution_x said:
I use clockworkmod because I have purchased the ROM manager tool and it works with their recovery.
I finally managed to flash a newer clockworkmod recovery and very strange after reboot it has reverted back to the old 2.5.0.7 version !!! At least I was able to partition my sd-ext...
I have tried the boot CD with alpha-rev it freezes in the final stage, but after that I was able to flash the new recovery using the recovery itself, but as I said after reboot the new recovery has gone !
Now I have tried to flash again a newer recovery from ROM manager it says it finished successful, but the recovery still remains 2.5.0.7
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Because all you are doing is a fake flash. You need to flash it from fastboot in order to stick.
Ditch the Rom manager. That pos app is guilty of more usb bricks than most of us can count.

And how can I flash it from HBOOT ?

evolution_x said:
And how can I flash it from HBOOT ?
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You need to read ADB for dummies guide to gain knowledge how to set ADB up.
Then you go into hboot by pressing vol- and power button.
Select fastboot.
Download your recovery.img and place it in the same folder your fastboot.exe is, then type in cmd:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
fastboot erase cache.
Return to hboot and boot in the recovery.

erklat said:
You need to read ADB for dummies guide to gain knowledge how to set ADB up.
Then you go into hboot by pressing vol- and power button.
Select fastboot.
Download your recovery.img and place it in the same folder your fastboot.exe is, then type in cmd:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
fastboot erase cache.
Return to hboot and boot in the recovery.
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Erklat, thanks for this - I have the same problem.
i have finally got round to get adb, etc, working..and it kinda works, except that when flash a newer version of CWM (v5.0.2) on fastboot it still doesn't work. I tried using the Rom manager, which failed straight away, and I followed your steps above. But still didn't work.
So my story's background:
I rooted my Desire with Unrevoked so I could install ICS (sandvold) - and it has been working beautifully. But now I want to create an ext3 partition and the GParted method is far too complex for me to follow through.
CWM i have installed doens't partition, and so I though I'd update the recovery tool so I could use it to partition.
Any suggestions on what I could do?

KitkatKlub said:
Erklat, thanks for this - I have the same problem.
i have finally got round to get adb, etc, working..and it kinda works, except that when flash a newer version of CWM (v5.0.2) on fastboot it still doesn't work. I tried using the Rom manager, which failed straight away, and I followed your steps above. But still didn't work.
So my story's background:
I rooted my Desire with Unrevoked so I could install ICS (sandvold) - and it has been working beautifully. But now I want to create an ext3 partition and the GParted method is far too complex for me to follow through.
CWM i have installed doens't partition, and so I though I'd update the recovery tool so I could use it to partition.
Any suggestions on what I could do?
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Do you get an error when you flash a new recovery via fastboot or does it say it successfully flashed the recovery.img file? If you didn't get an error, do you always go to Rom Manager to access recovery? If yes, I say ditch rom manager. Try vol down + power like on erklat's instruction, this time select Recovery. See if the recovery you flashed is booted.
If you are s-off it's better you flash 4ext recovery. It's by far the best recovery you can use for Desire.

stankyou said:
Do you get an error when you flash a new recovery via fastboot or does it say it successfully flashed the recovery.img file? If you didn't get an error, do you always go to Rom Manager to access recovery? If yes, I say ditch rom manager. Try vol down + power like on erklat's instruction, this time select Recovery. See if the recovery you flashed is booted.
If you are s-off it's better you flash 4ext recovery. It's by far the best recovery you can use for Desire.
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Hey thanks sthankyou.
This is what i get on fastboot:
sending recovery...
OKAY
writing recovery
(bootloader) signature checking...
FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)
finished. total time: 1.054s
I also tried flashing RA, just to see if it would work (and also heard its better). But nothing. It's quite bizarre.
My phone is not S-OFF - I used the HTC official software and I dont' think it does it - I have no problems in doing it if it will resolve this problem.
I have also tried this flashing using the terminal, Which I found in the Q&A's but i get several error messages, and then finally:
"error writing recovery: No space left on device"
So I uninstalled a couple of apps (freeing some 10mb+) but still the same issue.

As you are not s-off you can't flash recovery, get s-off and flash any you like
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KitkatKlub said:
I also tried flashing RA, just to see if it would work (and also heard its better). But nothing. It's quite bizarre.
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RA has not been maintained for quite some time. 4EXT is probably the best and it's developer is very devoted to his project.
KitkatKlub said:
My phone is not S-OFF - I used the HTC official software and I dont' think it does it - I have no problems in doing it if it will resolve this problem.
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You made your life a whole lot complicated by using that official tool.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

erklat said:
RA has not been maintained for quite some time. 4EXT is probably the best and it's developer is very devoted to his project.
You made your life a whole lot complicated by using that official tool.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
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Ah that really sucks. Will I be able to gain S-Off by using AlphaRev? Revolution doesn't work because my HBoot is 1.0.3... and thus not supported.
Once I get it to be S-Off I'll switch to 4EXT.
Thanks, for the help so far!

KitkatKlub said:
Ah that really sucks. Will I be able to gain S-Off by using AlphaRev? Revolution doesn't work because my HBoot is 1.0.3... and thus not supported.
Once I get it to be S-Off I'll switch to 4EXT.
Thanks, for the help so far!
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theresa way to downgrade. check resources on my guide.

i had the same problem. s-off solved everything.
i had problems with s-off. i had ISC 4.0.3. and i couldn't get it to s-off and i installed some stable rom. cant remember which one, but i'm sure it was on of stable ones. and then tried to s-off again and it was over in few minutes.
and then i flashed recovery with adb

[Q] Stuck in HTC logo with exclamation marks in the four corners

I have a HTC desire HD and i was running sabsa prime v8.5 and was having a few problems that other users werent having so i decided to RUU back to stock rom and see if the problems persisted.. dont know much about RUU's so i just used the first one someone had linked for the desire hd. Had an error midway through the process and not all i get is the htc logo with four exlamation marks in triangles at each corner. Have tried flashing different things through cmd commands all i get it either FAILED..(remote: not allowed) or FAILED (status read failed((too many links)).. i cant boot the phone into recovery either. if i hold down volume when turning it on it still goes straight to the htc logo with exclamation marks..
If i force boot through command promt the phone vibrates and shows white background with green htc logo (the normal boot up image) but then does nothing from there
Have tried heaps of different suggestions on other xda threads cant get anything working.
This is the first RUU i tired but have tried a few others since :
RUU_Ace_Sense30_S_HTC_WWE_3.12.405.1_Radio_12.65.60.29_26.14.04.28_M_release_225512_signed.exe
Have also tried flashing Bravo_alphaspl.img and get the same errors as above
please help

It sounds like you dont have a recovery...you might want to flash a recovery first, and then flash a custom ROM if you are s-off. If you are not, then you need to s-off, to flash a custom ROM.
Or you can try to flash the stock ROM using SD card method.

ai6908 said:
It sounds like you dont have a recovery...you might want to flash a recovery first, and then flash a custom ROM if you are s-off. If you are not, then you need to s-off, to flash a custom ROM.
Or you can try to flash the stock ROM using SD card method.
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What recovery should i try flash? I have tried flashing a new recovery through command promt fastboot flash recovery (name of recovery.img) and i get the error FAILURE (remote: not allowed)
How would i be able to flash over USB? i cant get into HBOOT menu at all apart from after a failed RUU it brings up what looks like the HBOOT menu and shows me my HBOOT version and radio and s-off but the only option it gives is ruu. if i click it it goes back to htc logo screen
thanks for helping

check this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1948344

ghassan haddad said:
check this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1948344
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yes! thank you so much mate. i have tried what they were saying before but on the link to ruu's on that thread i was able to find one that matched my RADIO and then it worked. i thought id stuffed it cos i tried a lot of other things without really knowing what i was doing.
thanks heaps mate

nathdesirehd said:
What recovery should i try flash? I have tried flashing a new recovery through command promt fastboot flash recovery (name of recovery.img) and i get the error FAILURE (remote: not allowed)
How would i be able to flash over USB? i cant get into HBOOT menu at all apart from after a failed RUU it brings up what looks like the HBOOT menu and shows me my HBOOT version and radio and s-off but the only option it gives is ruu. if i click it it goes back to htc logo screen
thanks for helping
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That is because the phone is in hboot and not in fastboot USB. Anyway, use the guide in my signature on how to flash CWM recovery. BRAVO file is not for your phone...is for desire and not desire HD.

[Q] HTC Desire HD Error installing fastboot image

Hello,
I recently purchased a replacement HTC Desire HD and would like to install jellytime on it, like I had on my old phone.
I get an error when trying to install the flashboot image:
# ../fastboot boot boot.img
downloading 'boot.img'... OKAY
booting... FAILED (remote: not allowed)
The phone says S-ON and it is HBOOT version 0.85.0024
../fastboot devices
HT139T202307 fastboot
I do not have access to windows system and think I should have all of the tool necessary since I can use adblinux and fastboot and see the device ok
Thanks guys. I really want to get off of this ATT image!

iamatt said:
Hello,
I recently purchased a replacement HTC Desire HD and would like to install jellytime on it, like I had on my old phone.
I get an error when trying to install the flashboot image:
# ../fastboot boot boot.img
downloading 'boot.img'... OKAY
booting... FAILED (remote: not allowed)
The phone says S-ON and it is HBOOT version 0.85.0024
../fastboot devices
HT139T202307 fastboot
I do not have access to windows system and think I should have all of the tool necessary since I can use adblinux and fastboot and see the device ok
Thanks guys. I really want to get off of this ATT image!
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Is your bootloader unlocked?? Because you are S-ON and that is why you won't be able to flash a partition image. Or you are S-OFF or you have an unlocked bootloader. That has nothing to do with not using windows.

glevitan said:
Is your bootloader unlocked?? Because you are S-ON and that is why you won't be able to flash a partition image. Or you are S-OFF or you have an unlocked bootloader. That has nothing to do with not using windows.
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Hello! and thanks for reply. Ok I did go do unlock boot loader routine from htc developer site and now the boot loader says 'unlocked' now. I guess I'm almost there? What would be the next step to root the phoe so I can get back to following the JellyTime roms?

iamatt said:
Hello! and thanks for reply. Ok I did go do unlock boot loader routine from htc developer site and now the boot loader says 'unlocked' now. I guess I'm almost there? What would be the next step to root the phoe so I can get back to following the JellyTime roms?
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you have to flash the image file from fastboot USB not HBOOT, and in the cmd session you have to be in the same path as the file is located.

glevitan said:
you have to flash the image file from fastboot USB not HBOOT, and in the cmd session you have to be in the same path as the file is located.
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Hi. I flashed clockwork mod and now when my phone reboots it gets stuck on htc boot screen. I tried re-flashing a backup rom I had from SD card and still no go. HBOOT says unlocked and there is some errors in the screen when the hboot loads but it goes by real fast. I can communicate with the device still with fastboot. Any suggestions to at least get this phone so it will boot? argh and I am going out of town this weekend so a usable phone would REALLY be good.

iamatt said:
Hi. I flashed clockwork mod and now when my phone reboots it gets stuck on htc boot screen. I tried re-flashing a backup rom I had from SD card and still no go. HBOOT says unlocked and there is some errors in the screen when the hboot loads but it goes by real fast. I can communicate with the device still with fastboot. Any suggestions to at least get this phone so it will boot? argh and I am going out of town this weekend so a usable phone would REALLY be good.
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Have you flashed the boot.img before flashing the custom rom??
Boot in fastboot usb, plug the phone, then: From the custom rom zip file, just extract the boot.img file and flash it in fastboot this way:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
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Then choose recovery and flash the rom as usual...

glevitan said:
Have you flashed the boot.img before flashing the custom rom??
Boot in fastboot usb, plug the phone, then: From the custom rom zip file, just extract the boot.img file and flash it in fastboot this way:
Then choose recovery and flash the rom as usual...
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Hey man! you really saved my butt!!! I got it working again phew.. It looks as though (as you suggested) that my boot image was not aligned with the rom I was trying to use. Seriously thanks again.

iamatt said:
Hey man! you really saved my butt!!! I got it working again phew.. It looks as though (as you suggested) that my boot image was not aligned with the rom I was trying to use. Seriously thanks again.
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No problem...just take into consideration that everytime that you flash a rom, you need to flash the boot.img.
Take care and enjoy!!

iamatt said:
Hello,
I recently purchased a replacement HTC Desire HD and would like to install jellytime on it, like I had on my old phone.
I get an error when trying to install the flashboot image:
# ../fastboot boot boot.img
downloading 'boot.img'... OKAY
booting... FAILED (remote: not allowed)
The phone says S-ON and it is HBOOT version 0.85.0024
../fastboot devices
HT139T202307 fastboot
I do not have access to windows system and think I should have all of the tool necessary since I can use adblinux and fastboot and see the device ok
Thanks guys. I really want to get off of this ATT image!
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It looks like your problem was a wrong command. The command is 'fastboot flash boot boot.img'. You wrote 'fastboot boot boot.img'. :silly:

[Q] Is there hope for my Dinc2?

I recently purchase a used Dinc2 with 2.3.4. It worked fine until i tried to root/unlock it. I followed the HTCDev guide for unlocking and after rebooting following accepting the agreement the phone stuck on the HTC splash screen. I've spent several weeks reading and searching trying to find a solution, but without any success. i'm hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction.
I don't consider myself a noob since I've been flashing my unlocked OG Droid for several years, however I will admit this HTC is a whole different animal.
Here are the details of what I've found so far:
* I can use volume down + power to get into hboot, which tells me the phone is unlocked with S-On.
* If i use fastboot oem lock I get " FAILED (status read failed (Too many links))"
* When I fastboot boot into CWM I get several E: Can't mount cache/ errors
* Formatting the cache fails with CWM and 4ext
* Flashing ROMs with either CWM or 4ext fails as well
Is there anything I should still try before writing this phone off?
thanks

Get s off
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You could try the root method in the "comprehensive S-OFF / root methods" thread in development, second post. It involves flashing a RUU in hboot, which you may be able to do. And, I'm not sure, but it could fix any partition error if cache somehow got corrupted.
What does hboot say? Should say unlocked and S-ON if you're HTC unlocked.
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Thanks for the tips.
When doing this, when I get to the section where 'fastboot flash recovery recovery.img', it hangs at writing 'recovery' and doesn't do anything.

Further update...
If I use 'Fastboot boot recovery.img' instead of 'fastboot flash recovery recovery.img' then 4ext loads, however it tells me:
ATTN: recovery is in safe mode. this is because the following partition is not accessible: "cache". Please enter the wipe menu and wipe cache! If you changes hboot you should choose to format all partitions (except sdcard).
If I follow either of those instructions and fastboot boot into 4ext it gives me the same 'safe mode' error every time.

It seems your Dinc2 is security locked, S-ON, you need a XTC clip to S-OFF your Dinc2

Before I seek out an XTC clip I would like to try using a signed version of PG32IMG.zip, however I haven't been able to locate one for the 2.3.4 firmware. Most resources point back to this link at rootzwiki rootzwiki.com/topic/18873-ruu-htc-incredible-2-signed-ruus-pg32imgzip/ but the link to the downloads is broken.
Can anyone point me to a valid download for a signed version of PG32IMG?
thanks

jwendorf said:
Before I seek out an XTC clip I would like to try using a signed version of PG32IMG.zip, however I haven't been able to locate one for the 2.3.4 firmware. Most resources point back to this link at rootzwiki rootzwiki.com/topic/18873-ruu-htc-incredible-2-signed-ruus-pg32imgzip/ but the link to the downloads is broken.
Can anyone point me to a valid download for a signed version of PG32IMG?
thanks
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Have you tried running "factory reset" from the hboot menu?
Your phone seems to have partition errors (probably why it hung on the HTC screen after you unlocked, and why cache is giving you errors). I'm not sure if an RUU will wipe/re-write your partitions for you, or if it could error and brick the phone. I know that flashing a RUU is delicate, and errors while doing that can brick the phone. So, the only reason I'd flash a RUU at this point you're at is if you think you're already bricked and want to try something to fix it.
If you remember what Verizon version you had before you unlocked, you could find the stock rom, extract the boot.img into your android directory, and try flashing that in fastboot using "fastboot flash boot boot.img". That might get you booted in your current rom. Try this stock ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599767 In case you didn't know, when you're HTCDev unlocked, you have to flash boot.img every time you flash a ROM.
When I went from HTCDev Unlocked to S-OFF, all I did was flash an RUU and then run revolutionary. RUU_Vivo_W_Gingerbread_S_VERIZON_WWE_2.18.605.3_Ra dio_1.09.01.0622_NV_VZW1.92_release_199487_si.zip
Which can be found in the "Comprehensive S-OFF/Root Methods" thread in development.
Download the first link under "Tacoroot" and extract the RUU zip file. It goes on the root of your SD card, and you rename it "PG32IMG.zip". Then, you have to go to fastboot (the bootloader) and type in the adb command "fastboot oem lock". After that, select "bootloader" and it should scan for the PG32IMG.zip and ask if you want to flash. If it runs correctly you should be on hboot version .97 with a stock ROM, and you can run revolutionary.
Did you ever type the command "fastboot oem unlock" at any point in the HTCDev unlock process? If so, you may not be able to run that RUU.

[Q] Locked or Unlocked

Hey Guys,
Hope that someone can help me, I have rooted, installed recovery and custom firmware on a few HTC's.
But this has frickin stumped me !!
The desire I have gotten my hands on does not show locked or unlocked in the boot menu, but It has got S-off I didn't think it was possible??
Tried to unlock the bootloader through HTC dev and that failed, so i thought it was already unlocked
Tried flashing recovery through fast boot, but that failed!!
I'm a bit lost, anyone got any ideas as to where I'm going wrong??

Step one: Stop trying to unlock it...there is no need
Since the phone is already s-off you dont need to worry about unlocking the bootloader.
S-off is the highest level of "openness" you can have on the desire. You have the ability to write to all of the partition that you can with an unlocked bootloader, plus more.
The fact that flashing a recovery failed is indeed a problem though. What was the exact error?

Chromium_ said:
Step one: Stop trying to unlock it...there is no need
Since the phone is already s-off you dont need to worry about unlocking the bootloader.
S-off is the highest level of "openness" you can have on the desire. You have the ability to write to all of the partition that you can with an unlocked bootloader, plus more.
The fact that flashing a recovery failed is indeed a problem though. What was the exact error?
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Dude,
Thanks for that, I'm now clearer on the bootloader issue.
This is what was returned from the fastboot command.
C:\>fastboot boot TWRP.img
downloading 'boot.img'...
OKAY [ 0.829s]
booting...
FAILED (remote: not allowed)
finished. total time: 0.830s
C:\>
Now the phone is just bootlooping at the HTC splash screen, any ideas whats gone wrong??

sudd1976 said:
Dude,
Thanks for that, I'm now clearer on the bootloader issue.
This is what was returned from the fastboot command.
C:\>fastboot boot TWRP.img
downloading 'boot.img'...
OKAY [ 0.829s]
booting...
FAILED (remote: not allowed)
finished. total time: 0.830s
C:\>
Now the phone is just bootlooping at the HTC splash screen, any ideas whats gone wrong??
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in my sig (click to show content) theres 4ext recovery as PB99IMG, click the link and follow instructions to flash recovery.
Or
Use the twrp recovery img that u have and flash it using fastboot command
fastboot flash recovery TWRP.img
Then u should be able to boot into recovery

It's ALIVE !!!!
jmcclue said:
in my sig (click to show content) theres 4ext recovery as PB99IMG, click the link and follow instructions to flash recovery.
Or
Use the twrp recovery img that u have and flash it using fastboot command
fastboot flash recovery TWRP.img
Then u should be able to boot into recovery
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Guys,
Ok, so i realised that I was being a major dumbass and using the wrong fastboot command to try and flash my recovery.
Even when I used the command - fastboot flash recovery TWRP.img, the result was the same, no recovery for me and a bootloop
But the 4ext recovery as PB99IMG zip file on the root of my S/d card has worked, I now have a working recovery and no more bootloop.
Thanks for all your help guys

sudd1976 said:
Guys,
Ok, so i realised that I was being a major dumbass and using the wrong fastboot command to try and flash my recovery.
Even when I used the command - fastboot flash recovery TWRP.img, the result was the same, no recovery for me and a bootloop
But the 4ext recovery as PB99IMG zip file on the root of my S/d card has worked, I now have a working recovery and no more bootloop.
Thanks for all your help guys
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Glad it worked :cyclops: ps: 4ext recovery is by far the best recovery so keep using it
Out of interest, what version of twrp were u trying to flash??
This is the official device listing TWRP Recovery
But i found this version for desire
By island3r
Im guessing u tried to flash wrong version, hense the fail.

jmcclue said:
Glad it worked :cyclops:
Out of interest, what version of twrp were u trying to flash??
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I tried flashing both of these recoveries
CWM - Touch 5.8.2.0 - Bravo
TWRP - 2.6.0.0 - 2013.07.16
Had the same result on both neither would flash in fastboot.
Taking a look through the files on the phone i can see leftover data from both CWM and also Titanium backup, so its totally been flashed and rooted before I got my hands on it.