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are you saticfied with photos taken by Arc with flash

since i love to take images using X. Arc .... i noticed that images taken with flash tend to be "yellowish" means the colors aren't represented well !!
one thing else... do u feel that the camera algortihm tends to sharpen the photos in the post processing step, this can be seen in photos taken in a sunny day with zomm in ?
post ur impressions and ur thoughts

one thing I noticed is that when using it with flash the pictures become over-exposed especially in the Auto Mode.

I think the image quality is pretty poor. The Mrs had an LG Renoir and the images look better to me.
The Arc is better than my old HTC HD Blackstone, but a $65 camera (Samsung) has better quality.
Yellowish skin, over saturated blues and reds... just poor.

I have only one thing to say, EXMOR R sucks! it is a marketing trick and nothing more!

Hi,
bashar.enjarini said:
since i love to take images using X. Arc .... i noticed that images taken with flash tend to be "yellowish" means the colors aren't represented well !!
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I noticed that sometimes, not allways, but its not a sign of a bad camera in the Arc!
Many cameras, also most expensive, have this "yellow-problem" by indoor photos, what is caused by artifical light sources like neon lamps etc and the automatic settings for white balance, as I found out via google.
http://www.mu-43.com/f42/indoor-images-very-yellow-tint-8290/
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=30717
http://rolandlim.wordpress.com/2011/03/03/who-is-telling-the-liar-the-camera-or-the-brain/
Iphone4 based but also intresting:
http://blog.wirelessground.com/iphone-4-camera-2/
and so on...
reptile64 said:
I have only one thing to say, EXMOR R sucks! it is a marketing trick and nothing more!
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I tested it, my Arc with Exmor R vs other phone cameras and there is a much better result in quality overall with it.
No marketing trick at all, but perhaps a wrong imagination of some people how it works!
Greetings
Alef

+ 1 alefthau.. It's amazing how quickly people who don't understand their technology our how to use it blame it for being' bad'
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Arc S has a horrible camera quality

Hello, i bought a new Arc S. I found, that camera produces really low quality pictures. Is there any way to improve compression? I heard, that CM has a improved quality camera.
Thank you

Hello there
Unfortunately, there is currently no option available to improve the crappy quality of the camera output (compression).
Neither CM7 nor MIUI have any significant improvement in this area.

Are you sure you bought an arc because my arc takes good pics but it isn't an arc s but I find this hard to believe maybe your only taking pictures in the dark ?

Check your settings. Some phones have the camera set to poor quality from start.
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I've bought an Xperia Arc S too about a month ago, but in my opinion the camera is fantastic! Maybe you have to set the camera in high quality. My camera was also standard at 2 MP 16:9. Now I'm using 6 MP 16:9 and the pictures are great, even in the dark.

septix said:
Check your settings. Some phones have the camera set to poor quality from start.
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Resolution is already set to 8Mpixels.
Which other settings could I check?

rioka said:
Resolution is already set to 8Mpixels.
Which other settings could I check?
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I'd recommend 6 MP, because it has a 16:9 instead of a 4:3 format.

Mine works awesome with 8MP...
Could you post a pic made by your cam?
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I would also recommend you post the picture you have taken, x10 and arc are best known as their 8M camera, they should be able to take impressive picture compared to all the phone available back then and even able to compete among all phones on the market to date
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I don't understand people who say Arc camera is crappy.
It's the best I've ever used in a mobile phone to date.
It can't be compared to my compact camera but it's a phone after all
and the results are more than decent for quick shots.

I don't say my arc is perfect but It's not really that bad in taking picture .
I'm ok with it ...
Using 6MP 16:9,
maybe Your lens is dirty ! clean it if it's needed.

arc is one of the best camera phones out there.if not the best.

Best camera 2011/2012, it won that price
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The camera is great - no 2 opinions about that.
But after I downgraded from .62 to .42 with data&system wipe, because of the root, my phone started to take really low quality pics in low light - identical conditions, the same camera settings, but now pics appear with a great level of noise, nomatter how I adjust the settings. On videos also. This is my second time downgrading from 62, the first time without wipe - everything was OK, but now I think smthing must have gone wrong - lots of noise and heavy purple dots...
Any ideas how to fix that, cause I really miss the good low light pics - one of the reasons I bought it.

iridaki said:
I don't understand people who say Arc camera is crappy.
It's the best I've ever used in a mobile phone to date.
It can't be compared to my compact camera but it's a phone after all
and the results are more than decent for quick shots.
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Maybe some users are expecting a miracle out of arc's camera (e.g. comparing the pictures against DSLRs' large sensor and lens)
Its great for casual shots and videos imo.
It even won an EISA award.

The camera is great, the software is horrible. MIUI and CM7 support to change the jpg compression, which the stock ROM doesn't. The jpg compression sadly ****s up everything and destroys the overall quality of the shots.

I find the quality of the arc's shots to be great, I don't understand why so many people complain. Yes the output file is pretty small for an 8MP resolution photo because its been compressed to ****, but I don't really notice this, even when plugging into my 42" TV it still looks great (until you start to zoom in) Take a range of shots, when shooting in darkness you will find a decent amount of noise but this is just the Exmor-r working wonders - without it, you'd find you'd just have a very dark picture.

Like many people already said, I'm totally happy with the picture's quality of my ARC, especially on 6MP 16:9. I love the colors, the tones, the clarity.. I'm sure that Sony (still SE for me ) will improve a little about JPEG compression in next ICS release..

iridaki said:
I don't understand people who say Arc camera is crappy.
It's the best I've ever used in a mobile phone to date.
It can't be compared to my compact camera but it's a phone after all
and the results are more than decent for quick shots.
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Exactly. Only my old Nokia N95 comes close, but that also was a little sony carl zeiss optic if i recall correctly.

Arc S camera is crappy.
I know it, because i used a Samsung mobile for a long time before Arc S, to take more than 4K pcs photos, so i can compare them.
It makes a lot of color noise under low light conditions of scenes.
Even a bit better when the light is enough, but then it makes white burned photos
The objective is distorted (fish eye aka barell), and also makes color noises in its corners.
The video record of this mobile is blurred, shaked, in low light condition makes color noises too.
You have to use Noiseware, or similar software to remove unwanted color noises from photos which are dotted by Xperia Arc /s
I don't know what is the meaning of the Exmore r, because i can't find a reason, maybe it' s only a commercial thingy
Sorry for my bad english.

LED flash TOO Blue! Anyone else notice ?

Hi, im a photo geek.
I like using my 4s as my point and shoot.
Uncle came from Europe with the S3. was impressed with the phone and day time photos. Noticed his led flash was to blue when shooting pics with flash. The 4s does better. Thought it was just his phone.
Got my hands on a US copy and its the same thing.
Anyone got any advice except to turn it off.
This phone shoots misleading shots.
Image is sharp when snapped. ( it looks good )
Then when viewing its all blurry shots.
Any camera mods that may help?
im rooted too.

Your in a league of your own bud. My LED isn't blue at all and my photos look fine when looking at them. But I would like to see some camera mods also the international version has lots of camera mods that really up the quality
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I dont find the flash blue but I do agree the pictures are not the best indoors.
My OneX took amazing pictures once the saturation was adjusted. Or maybe it is just me and I take lousy shots.
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(Q) Is display really as bad as people make it out to be?

Hello,
I'm very interested in buying an unlocked ZL, but the only thing that has me thinking twice is the display. Almost every review I've read mentions that the ZL has terrible viewing angles, and the contrast isn't very good.
I'm coming from a Nexus 4, and the viewing angles on it are great. The contrast isn't the best, but I'm not expecting AMOLED black levels here.
So, I just thought I'd check in here and hopefully get a response or two from people who actually own the phone. It's either this or Oppo Find 5, but this one will have tons more support. Thanks in advance!
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crazyjimbo said:
Hello,
I'm very interested in buying an unlocked ZL, but the only thing that has me thinking twice is the display. Almost every review I've read mentions that the ZL has terrible viewing angles, and the contrast isn't very good.
I'm coming from a Nexus 4, and the viewing angles on it are great. The contrast isn't the best, but I'm not expecting AMOLED black levels here.
So, I just thought I'd check in here and hopefully get a response or two from people who actually own the phone. It's either this or Oppo Find 5, but this one will have tons more support. Thanks in advance!
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Why dont you try going through a few threads here? You'll have your answer.
Short answer: Viewing angles worse than N4 even though overall screen quality is much better. If you have a habit of looking at your phones obliquely, dont buy the ZL.

I just went to a Sony store to check it out in person, I really think the display is not bad at all. you should definitely go to the store to see it on person, I am planning to get it once it will be on sale this coming week.
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I got my zl 6506 for three days now
my old one is sony lt29i first time compare to my lt29i
it looks not very bright not colorfully but after couple days
it looks not bad at all I don't know how to say it but for me
I can accept and very good device

I have had mine for 3 weeks and I think the screen is great. Viewing angles are not great, but in my daily use and in my personal opinion the screen looks great. I don't look at my screen from odd angles so it is never an issue for me. Webpages and YouTube videos look fantastic

ah_hin said:
I just went to a Sony store to check it out in person, I really think the display is not bad at all. you should definitely go to the store to see it on person, I am planning to get it once it will be on sale this coming week.
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It will be on sale? Where? The lowest price I've seen is about $577 on amazon.
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Thanks everyone for the replies!
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crazyjimbo said:
Is display really as bad as people make it out to be
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I personally look the device at local Market, some of Bad issue with the screen is or May be we can say Bad-luck of Sony is that the Software UI Background Color is Grey & its not in Black color, it's the main reason the screen is not looking good & everyone judge it as a washout screen,If we change the theme of Xperia Z the Screen looking Good at All.so I think its same for ZL too.
So viewing Angle are still not good as in IPS panel are, but remember the viewing angle issue is raised in just the Case of Xperia Z/ZL Cause Sony using the same TFT panel in all of their Smartphones & since than No one Complain or Raise even about A bit for the viewing angles,
Xperia T/TX are using same TFT screen Panel but no one said in their reviews that the Viewing angles are Bad & are Washout.But there is actually need to Point out the issue because poeple Spend A lot of their Hard erning Money & in result they don't Get the good thing.
In the Same sense with our TVs Picture Settings in Our Family member Set it to Vivid, some one came(suppose Papa) and set it too Standard & you like Soft or any of Factory settings given in Picture Mode of your TV.
so the point is that the Everyone have their own Preference for the Colors & look on something.
Although we all Admit that Sony should Put the IPS Panel screen in their High End Smartphone, there is no Lag or Cons in Xperia ZL either than of slightly viewing angle, Because in Some situations we must have need for Viewing Angles(not all the time), In that condition the screen Fade out is really a shame for the owner of device as well Sony too because we having a High end smartphone and the screen is Fading in some conditional bloody angles.
I'm saying again there is no any Smartphone which is Perfect in All of their Aspects.
Htc having Heavy software,as well the Htc oneX+ is A issue with its wifi by manufacture, Some People Blaming Sony for their Late Updated Schdule for Software, But remember & check the Htc is having same thing with Software updating schedule, and Samsung having their own bloatwares type software in their mobiles. The Clean and Best nearly Stock Android you Can found in Xperia Z/ZL Smartphone in Form of Jelly Bean (4.1.2).
Also the App "screen Calibration" is putted in Xperia ZL for screen Adjustment by user Preference.
Mostly the chance is that the Latest Software May set all of the issue Regarding our Concerns.
Go in your Nearly Store & check for yourself the screen how its looking to you, leave that how its looking to another person.
God Bless you

I've been using the C6506 since April 3rd and I can honestly say that I *really* love the display. Calibrating with the WB app really helped and everything looks really sharp. I couldn't care less about the viewing angles, because honestly, how many times do I really need to look at the phone off-angle? I moved from an iPhone 5 for this phone and it's far, far better.

viewing angles n front cam

hey are the viewing angles of this phone that bad bcoz i m going to buy this phone,i m using xperia m and i dont notice the contrast problems in it so are they good in comparison to m?and is the front cam placement really that akward and does the position of front cam really matter?plz rly i want to buy this phone!!!

Well the viewing angles are not the best, that's true. But why would you ever look at your phone from a weird angle? I like the display and have no complains.
Regarding the front cam, I don't really use it and if I do then in landscape, then the camera is in a very good spot I'd say.

Unless your trying to watch videos with several other people, the viewing angles are fine. Honestly, I never use the front cam... I can see that if you were trying to actually use your screen right handed while using the phone, it might be an issue... dunno.
It's reasonably fast... it does heat up if you use a significant amount of cpu/gpu horsepower while playing games.
Some folks have had issues with premature battery failure/shutdown...
The screen isn't quite as vivid as an amoled screen (think Samsung s4).
The camera takes decent daytime shots, but kind of falls off for low light shots.
Which carrier are you planning to use it with?
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I m frm india n in india we dont get carrier phones nyways thanks
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scifan said:
Unless your trying to watch videos with several other people, the viewing angles are fine. Honestly, I never use the front cam... I can see that if you were trying to actually use your screen right handed while using the phone, it might be an issue... dunno.
It's reasonably fast... it does heat up if you use a significant amount of cpu/gpu horsepower while playing games.
Some folks have had issues with premature battery failure/shutdown...
The screen isn't quite as vivid as an amoled screen (think Samsung s4).
The camera takes decent daytime shots, but kind of falls off for low light shots.
Which carrier are you planning to use it with?
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it isnt that vivid as s4 but is the screen disappointing?how is colur reproduction?

einfachgaer said:
Well the viewing angles are not the best, that's true. But why would you ever look at your phone from a weird angle? I like the display and have no complains.
Regarding the front cam, I don't really use it and if I do then in landscape, then the camera is in a very good spot I'd say.
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i m used to an xperia m n i dont really notice the viewing angles....r viewing angles of zl btr than of m?is the screen bright n vivid?is colour reproduction good?and is the glass protection as tough as gorrila glass?

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it isnt that vivid as s4 but is the screen disappointing?how is colur reproduction?
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Color reproduction seems decent... It's kind of like comparing a Plasma to an LED backlit LCD display... I think you get deeper blacks with AMOLED vs what I'd classify as more of a dark grey/light black on this...
Color's look great when you have contrast and brightness turned up.
I came from a Samsung Galaxy S3 (which my wife now uses)... This is faster... the display looks pretty good... it's really sharp... it's a pretty impressive screen and if I hadn't ever had an AMOLED screen on my Galaxy S3, I'd have thought this was exceptionally awesome... it's pretty good. I should re-lock my boot loader and see if the bravia engine really does make things look better again...

U mean colour reproduction is good even without bravia engine?!
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U mean colour reproduction is good even without bravia engine?!
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Colour reproduction is better with bravia engine set to off, bravia engine makes colours too vivid, you get more natural colours w/o bravia engine

The zl does not have a good viewing angle. But I used mine spot on. So no qualms about it. I bought it because of its compactness.
Anyway, I bought an Xperia C today, for my father. And guess what? Xperia C has better viewing angles.
I tested it. Auto brightness off, maximum brightness.
I'm wondering why the low priced Xperia C has a better viewing angle than the premium ZL.