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Your undervolting settings

What your Undervolting settings guys ?
Me:
1350mhz:1225mv
1200mhz:1125mv
920mhz:960mv
700mhz:860mv
350mhz:760mv
230mhz(only on Leankernel):710mv
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Those look pretty aggressive, I'm going to try them out and see if they work for me. Thanks for the post

I'm using franco's
1200:1075mv
700:925mv
I wish I could go lower for the 700 but 900mv instantly freeze
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I'm using the 1.4Ghz oc uv kernel.
Here is my undervolting setting.
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Here's mine, your were slightly to aggressive for my phone, too about 5 reboots before I could change them lol
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I'm not saying that your lying, every device can handle undervolting/over clocking differently for example on my desire HD I could keep it at 2Ghz all the time while most people couldn't go past 1.8
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Could someone comment on the real life battery life benefits to undervolting? Since most of the power consumption is the display, I'm wondering how 'worth it' it is. Thanks

Keeping heat down and extending life of phone. The uv helps more in that regard really than giving you more bang for your charge.
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kevinaminaator said:
Could someone comment on the real life battery life benefits to undervolting? Since most of the power consumption is the display, I'm wondering how 'worth it' it is. Thanks
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The real world batter life gain is very very close to none. I'd say that it isn't worth it, but let the kids play if they want to
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io53 said:
The real world batter life gain is very very close to none. I'd say that it isn't worth it, but let the kids play if they want to
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+1 on this. I've yet to see any proof of that the small gain even can be measured.
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On my desire HD I could get about 30 minutes more out of it on my Gnex I gay about 15 minutes more
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I dont mind about the battery life(and seem to be very little change)
BUT the temperature rising while playing 3D game is much better than stock voltage.
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@rbiter said:
Keeping heat down and extending life of phone. The uv helps more in that regard really than giving you more bang for your charge.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
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Undervolting can lower the life of your device just as much as heat. Excessive anything is bad (except battery life).

I, too, stopped messing around with UV; just always caused weird instabilities or crashes.
Im using the default UV on imo's leankernel with interactiveX

Are the advantages/gains really that minimal? I mean thinking about it logically, it should help shouldn't it?
I was all set to lower mine even more but you guys have me thinking twice now lol...

heat is the most affected thing tho, and a phones life isn't a huge concern for me as i switch phones in July and january

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heat is the most affected thing tho, and a phones life isn't a huge concern for me as i switch phones in July and january
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The number one heat sources for these devices are the radios. No amount of undervolting is going to change that.

This is what Ezekeel (GLaDOS kernel dev) typed at rootzwiki:
Regarding Custom Voltage, note that the CPU in the GN uses Smartreflex to automatically determine proper voltages for all CPU frequency states, so a manual UV should not be necessary (check the calibration with 'dmesg | grep sr_'). The voltage values set with Custom Voltage are the nominal voltages which are used as a starting point for the calibration. Forcing the nominal voltages below the calibrated voltages determined automatically by Smartreflex can have adverse effects. So be warned! The main purpose of Custom Voltage is as a companion for Live OC so users can raise the voltages to stabilize higher OC values.
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/14685-kernel29-jan-glados-v16/page__view__findpost__p__428886
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/14685-kernel29-jan-glados-v16/page__st__200

I don't know about ya'll, but my phone only feels the heat when playing games or excessive hspa dl'ing. It is much harder to know you get more juice from uv'ing on a phone. Even laptop users usually say the gain is not worth mentioning.
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Highest E4GT quadrant scores?

In just curious what kind of quadrant scores people have been getting with which setups? in running Blazer ROM with Hitman kernel. with setcpu I just hit a score of 6171.
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In just curious what kind of quadrant scores people have been getting with which setups? in running Blazer ROM with Hitman kernel. with setcpu I just hit a score of 6171.
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Pictures or it didn't happen...
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There's at least two other threads that show scores. I've seen quads in the 6k, but I forgot what the setups were. My personal highest was 4932.

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I can't get over 1.5GHz without freezing sadly. I get high 4000s
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. Adjust your voltages maybe
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holy balls those are some high scores..... really dont look into the "epeen benchmarks" since last year... because all it takes to get a higher score is multiple runs and tweaks to the fps/ext4 system
but alot of you hope showing your quadrants/linpacs would get you laid...... lol just playing (i had to)
but damn man those SMOKE the evo 3d on its BEST day/kernel.... and to think... many have said (even my self) that they have the same performance.... (i owned a E4GT since launch and sold it a few weeks later) cant wait to get my white one tomorrow!!!!

blendz rom gunslinger kernel @1.6 set at performance but just started running really buggy after

Didn't do quite as good on this one. its fun to just play around and try and improve your score.
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To the gentleman who some how broke 6500. How did you do it?
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To the gentleman who some how broke 6500. How did you do it?
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With the setup I posted....cleared my ram....1.6 with on demand....setting to performance doesn't give me better preformance...and the low 6000 was on 1.5
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Danial723 said:
With the setup I posted....cleared my ram....1.6 with on demand....setting to performance doesn't give me better preformance...and the low 6000 was on 1.5
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I got the same set up and all I could muster was:
Using the lazy governor gives me higher scores than ondemand or performance.

I'm not too far behind and I have a single core hahaha 1.5ghz
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I got like 4850 or something like that without any OC. Just Blazer and Gunslinger.

SuperSwagSauce said:
I got like 4850 or something like that without any OC. Just Blazer and Gunslinger.
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Seriously though take into account the dualcore at 1.2...... its obvious your scores will be higher besides the point quadrant numbers mean nothing to me.... I was just saying for an almost EOL phone 4504 isn't bad
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Biggoron said:
Seriously though take into account the dualcore at 1.2...... its obvious your scores will be higher besides the point quadrant numbers mean nothing to me.... I was just saying for an almost EOL phone 4504 isn't bad
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Not at all. I wasn't really aiming that at you anyway lol. I thought the quadrant benchmark only tested one core?

SuperSwagSauce said:
Not at all. I wasn't really aiming that at you anyway lol. I thought the quadrant benchmark only tested one core?
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Doubt it, your thinking of smartbench 2010 and 2011 which '10 is for single cores because it doesn't do multithreads whereas '11 does .
I would think quadrant would use as much as there is. I don't think it only uses one core
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Blazer 3.8 odex hitman kernel
oc to 1504.
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nthornton1990 said:
To the gentleman who some how broke 6500. How did you do it?
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A good ROM and oc to 1.7ghz
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A good ROM and oc to 1.7ghz
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Man, Im overclocked to 1.7, cleared ram, and still cant pull 6000.

Low low Quadrant Scores, should I be worried?

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After Jb update I got over 6000 now I only get over 3000 and I've noticed a lag pulling down the status bar since, I've already done a factory reset still same outcome, should I be worried? Power saving is off btw stock not rooted
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horr1blek1tten said:
After Jb update I got over 6000 now I only get over 3000 and I've noticed a lag pulling down the status bar since, I've already done a factory reset still same outcome, should I be worried? Power saving is off btw stock not rooted
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Make sure power save is not on
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osmosizzz said:
Make sure power save is not on
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I put in my post power saving is not on read before you post.
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I wouldn't worry. You're probably just testing your phone after using it a lot
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Android_Monsters said:
I wouldn't worry. You're probably just testing your phone after using it a lot
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shouldn't make a huge difference of 3k, though...
looking at the scores, your 2D and 3D rendering scores are absolutely awful. yikes. your 2D score should be over 1k and your 3D score should be in the low/mid 2k range. quadrant is a subjective benchmarking app because it takes all of your scores and kind of creates an average, this is why it is not hugely reliable sometimes and also why scores are plummeted
looking at your other scores, however, they are extremely low as well. your mem score should be around 11k, while your CPU score should be around 10K, and IO should be a little faster than what you are showing as well.
i would say your system is being bogged down by another process while you are running the test.
quick question, what ROM are you running?
also, a way to tell if this is indeed a performance issue, and not just quadrant being quadrant... is to download a graphically intense game and play it.. if it skips and lags and jitters a whole lot (which i know was happening during your rendering tests based on the terrible 2D and 3D scores), then there is some issue there. if it runs fine, then simply put, don't worry about it.

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shouldn't make a huge difference of 3k, though...
looking at the scores, your 2D and 3D rendering scores are absolutely awful. yikes. your 2D score should be over 1k and your 3D score should be in the low/mid 2k range. quadrant is a subjective benchmarking app because it takes all of your scores and kind of creates an average, this is why it is not hugely reliable sometimes and also why scores are plummeted
looking at your other scores, however, they are extremely low as well. your mem score should be around 11k, while your CPU score should be around 10K, and IO should be a little faster than what you are showing as well.
i would say your system is being bogged down by another process while you are running the test.
quick question, what ROM are you running?
also, a way to tell if this is indeed a performance issue, and not just quadrant being quadrant... is to download a graphically intense game and play it.. if it skips and lags and jitters a whole lot (which i know was happening during your rendering tests based on the terrible 2D and 3D scores), then there is some issue there. if it runs fine, then simply put, don't worry about it.
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I'm running stock no root. I actually tried playing a game yesterday and it would lag a little. But this started happening when I let me phone go idle for so long.
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usage seems pretty normal.
are you using any cpu controlling apps?
also, just real quick, what ROM and kernel combo are you on bud?

Have you tried to re flash the stock rom? Other then that it has to be hardware.
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cobraboy85 said:
usage seems pretty normal.
are you using any cpu controlling apps?
also, just real quick, what ROM and kernel combo are you on bud?
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Everything Stock. And no CPU controlling apps I just upgraded from ICS everything was working fine .
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vopezy said:
Have you tried to re flash the stock rom? Other then that it has to be hardware.
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I factory reset twice right after it updated to jb. If this continues, do I have to Odin the factory image?
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horr1blek1tten said:
I factory reset twice right after it updated to jb. If this continues, do I have to Odin the factory image?
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Is your phone hot when you test? If so thermal throttling may be in place.
But from what it seems it seems like some sort of throttling is in effect. I would recommend another ROM and if it's still horrible you have a bad chip and warranty may be your only option.
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[APP] CoreDisabler v.1.0 (DISABLE CPU CORES FOR SAVING BATTERY!)

Hi, I have just found this application for our Nexus 4!!!
This app let us disable the CPU cores we want, so we can save a lot of battery... Also it gives an option to disable the at boot..
I have tried it... Although it costs €1, its worth to buy it, works well
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Do you have any data to support the claim that it improves battery life?
I've always thought that spreading the workload over more cores is more efficient eg. 4 cores working at say 700 is better then 2 cores running at 1400.

parker09 said:
Do you have any data to support the claim that it improves battery life?
I've always thought that spreading the workload over more cores is more efficient eg. 4 cores working at say 700 is better then 2 cores running at 1400.
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In my personal experience, i have noticed a little increase of battery duration... However, although i have underclocked to 1024MHz, i didnt noticed any performance decrease..
I suppose that my device works like monocore device

Not sure why someone buys a powerful quad core phone and then disabled cores and also under clocks it. I mean if battery life is your main concern than why not get a slower phone that has longer battery life?
What is purpose of having the power of you are just going to remove it?
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Richieboy67 said:
Not sure why someone buys a powerful quad core phone and then disabled cores and also under clocks it. I mean if battery life is your main concern than why not get a slower phone that has longer battery life?
What is purpose of having the power of you are just going to remove it?
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We want the power there when we need it, but want to be able to save battery when we need that. That's what Android is all about, freedom and control over your phone! =)

I don't believe this will really save battery. One core running higher loads should take longer and increase the screen on time, CPU temp due to higher core usage etc.
I think you will end up with a slower phone with similar or worse battery life.
Do some tests
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This app has the potential to be interesting but the S4 Pro is already effiecient enough, in fact it turns off cores itself when it needs to.
The Optimus G has the ability to manually turn off cores but that feature is unavailable in the Nexus 4, stock Android

Richieboy67 said:
Not sure why someone buys a powerful quad core phone and then disabled cores and also under clocks it. I mean if battery life is your main concern than why not get a slower phone that has longer battery life?
What is purpose of having the power of you are just going to remove it?
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The thing is that, although this phone is underclocked and has its cores disabled, it still works great

There's an App called Trickster Mod which shows you, that Kernels are disabled by default when not needed. In Standby it shows that on my Nexus 4 only one Kernel is working with 384 MHz. I think the Core Disabler App is useless....

What a useless app. Kernels such as Franco has hotplugging in the kernel already which disables and enables your core based on the amount of cpu usage.
If you're looking to maximize battery life, this app isn't the solution. And definitely not worth the 1 euro. Advertising a app on xda is illegal too
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zephiK said:
What a useless app. Kernels such as Franco has hotplugging in the kernel already which disables and enables your core based on the amount of cpu usage.
If you're looking to maximize battery life, this app isn't the solution. And definitely not worth the 1 euro. Advertising a app on xda is illegal too
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Illegal?
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Hey i am not advertising any app, you know??? This app is not mine, i only wanted to share this useful application..
There are also other paid apps advertised in this forum and nobody says anything!!!

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thanks op but i'll just stick with setCPU and underclocki with battery saying profiles

I always wanted a tri-core.

why did u bother to buy a superfast phone that you cant handle its speed and battery life?

Not working with bricked kernel 0.7! I wanted a tricore, too!
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Let's face it, the battery needed to have far more capacity than it does. However, this is made by LG... not surprised...
I am already waiting for next year Nexus phone...
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Q.Entity said:
Let's face it, the battery needed to have far more capacity than it does. However, this is made by LG... not surprised...
I am already waiting for next year Nexus phone...
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It is 2100 mAh which should be good enough. It is the software and the wake locks, and project butters unneeded speed when touching the screen that causes the battery to be lower.
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zabihjan said:
why did u bother to buy a superfast phone that you cant handle its speed and battery life?
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Probably because you don't always need every core. 2 cores will provide the same experience even if you underclock. Having two active cores should give similar or better performance than the S4(dual), so it makes sense to disable the others. I will trust android with quads when core management improves, which should arrive with Key lime pie hopefully.
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Not working with bricked kernel 0.7! I wanted a tricore, too!
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It would be cool if we could program the other cores for specific tasks. So the main two will handle the main task, the third can handle background task, and the fourth can do media things. Though I doubt we'll ever see the cores implemented like that.

3dMark for Android is released.

http://phandroid.com/2013/04/02/futuremark-3dmark-benchmark-android/
Just downloaded it. Pretty big file but not bigger than my disappointment at seeing the Note II's score. Yeah I know benchmarks dont mean crap but I figured it would score a lot higher that what it did.
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3328 here. No idea if that's good or not. What did you get?
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3328 here. No idea if that's good or not. What did you get?
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Higher the better.
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300 megabytes has to be some kind of non game app record.
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Our device scores fairly low compared to the nexus 4. Like half.
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Our device scores fairly low compared to the nexus 4. Like half.
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Barely. The Nexus 4 is neck and neck with the brand new HTC One.

No point in downloading if you haven't yet.

I don't think these are accurate. My scores are in the high 2000. It don't even show up on the scale lol.
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I don't think these are accurate. My scores are in the high 2000. It don't even show up on the scale lol.
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Well the more tweaks and overclocking and the more and more crap I have running on my phone lol is why I was way over 4000. It says what's your secret... I wouldn't even know where to begin. Start with Perseus kernel though. But seriously would even getting 6 or 7000 Really be a good thing anyway? I mean running every tweak and tweak app and overclock isn't really healthy for your device overall imo. Don't get me wrong I love how fast this thing is but lots of times you end up screwing something up and have to start from scratch.
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Just what we needed, another "benchmark" to make us feel inadequate about our phones.
PS, I hate futuremark. They are BS for a benchmark, but great for stress-testing/burn-in a new video card.
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Regular test: 4606
Extreme: 3160
Running Synergy r50 release
with Perseus and all CPU and GPU maxed out with performance governor.
I know the numbers mean nothing but it's always fun.

Not that it means much, but for fun, here are my numbers:
Regular: 3415
Extreme: 2545
Whomp's latest and No-frills CPU set at performance.
I'd rather have the 15+ hours of battery life than fighting space ships moving a bit faster.

Never understood the benchmark apps. They mean very little in today's devices.
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I don't understand why so many people base a device off a benchmark. Real World is totally different
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I disagree that benchmarks mean nothing. They measure speed and performance which is what I want out of my device. To each his own but they mean everything to me. Some worry more about battery life which is fine but obviously not performance because it would adversely affect your battery.
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t4d73 said:
I disagree that benchmarks mean nothing. They measure speed and performance which is what I want out of my device. To each his own but they mean everything to me. Some worry more about battery life which is fine but obviously not performance because it would adversely affect your battery.
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What a benchmark does is measure how well your particular device does in that particular benchmark... It tells you nothing about real world life of opening or closing apps or about interface lag. Battery life is something real, a bench like this tells you nothing apart from how well your device does on it.
Benches are fundamentally about epeen.
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Skripka said:
What a benchmark does is measure how well your particular device does in that particular benchmark... It tells you nothing about real world life of opening or closing apps or about interface lag. Battery life is something real, a bench like this tells you nothing apart from how well your device does on it.
Benches are fundamentally about epeen.
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I guess what I'm saying is I don't care about battery life because I bought 3 extra batteries and a wall charger so it's not an issue for me and performance is what I want. Yeah maybe benches don't say much but I'm into speed so I like to just have something to compare it too.
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We have the biggest phone, why not want the biggest e-peen?

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I guess what I'm saying is I don't care about battery life because I bought 3 extra batteries and a wall charger so it's not an issue for me and performance is what I want. Yeah maybe benches don't say much but I'm into speed so I like to just have something to compare it too.
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Yes but why is stock nexus 4 so much faster than stock note 2?
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