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So I have talked to many people in my area. (Arizona) and from what i'm hearing I will never have any 4g.coverage out here because sprint is going to LTE. Does anyone know if that is true or will they be expanding the 4g coverage into my area? I don't feel its right if I have a 4g phone but will never get it unless I get the galaxy nexus which will get there LTE in 2013.
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XBMC4LIFE said:
So I have talked to many people in my area. (Arizona) and from what i'm hearing I will never have any 4g.coverage out here because sprint is going to LTE. Does anyone know if that is true or will they be expanding the 4g coverage into my area? I don't feel its right if I have a 4g phone but will never get it unless I get the galaxy nexus which will get there LTE in 2013.
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congradulations for living in the middle of nowhere ....just like me ...sprint will not expand wimax anymore if you want to use 4g there are like a couple places in phoenix and 2 towers in tucson ..... yay and thats it ....
Damn that sucks!! I really dont want slow internet haha thats why I switched phones. Stupid sprint.
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Thankfully and somehow my school have 4g connection so when i go to school, its like internet heaven..
Ok so the question is.....
Will LTE coverage only be in areas where you have gotten or get 4g coverage or will LTE expand coverage a lil further?
I've got the sprint galaxy nexus
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Are you asking if Sprint is going to expand their 4G LTE coverage? If so, yes.
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Are you asking if Sprint is going to expand their 4G LTE coverage? If so, yes.
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Yes, thank you
I was just wondering if you would only be able to get lte where u would normally only get 4g coverage
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Yes, thank you
I was just wondering if you would only be able to get lte where u would normally only get 4g coverage
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Read this site they have a lot of info on the 4g roll out
http://s4gru.com/
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Sprint is strategically releasing LTE in limited markets soon. They will of course keep rolling it out over time to the best places they can. There's nothing that indicates they're going to just overlay their current WiMax network with LTE in that order. Eventually they want to cover their entire 3G network with LTE but that's so far off you can't even consider it right now.
It's going to be a very small, slow roll out.
And btw LTE is 4G. You need to refer to Sprint's legacy 4G network as "WiMax". That cuts down on the confusion...
Assuming you live in a city that supports LTE. How much % less time do you get with LTE than with 3G
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Assuming you live in a city that supports LTE. How much % less time do you get with LTE than with 3G
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Im not even sure if sprint has any LTE towers up yet XD and is it any faster than 4g?
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Im not even sure if sprint has any LTE towers up yet XD and is it any faster than 4g?
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Huh? Sprint has towers up in places. And LTE IS 4G.
EDIT: To OP, I couldn't tell you, don't have LTE in my area just yet.
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Im not even sure if sprint has any LTE towers up yet XD and is it any faster than 4g?
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What?
I'm curious as well op
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gpgorbosjr said:
Huh? Sprint has towers up in places. And LTE IS 4G.
EDIT: To OP, I couldn't tell you, don't have LTE in my area just yet.
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LTE is NOT 4G. They all call it that, but it's more like 3.9G. LTE-Advanced will be 4G when it is finalized and deployed on carrier networks next year.
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Assuming you live in a city that supports LTE. How much % less time do you get with LTE than with 3G
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I personally don't notice much difference by leaving LTE on versus turning it off. I usually get 2 days of use on a full charge. My results may be skewed a bit cause the lte signal is weak in my area, so my phone automatically switched over to 3G.
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LTE is NOT 4G. They all call it that, but it's more like 3.9G. LTE-Advanced will be 4G when it is finalized and deployed on carrier networks next year.
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Give me a break man. I know what 4G is constituted by but with the carriers pushing out their crap (HSPA+ as 4G) calling LTE 4G is a happy medium.
And I was just trying to figure what the hell that guy was talking about when he said 4G. LTE, WiMax, Real 4G, dumb AT&T/T-Mo 4G?
If I understand correctly. The s4 processor has the lte integrated in such a way that is a bit more battery efficient than a snapdragon s3 device with lte.
This might be better in the Verizon form as they have LTE (we do too but in 5cities).
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You might get better answers in the LTE sticky thread in General. Most there have LTE.
FNM
I have yet to see a significant drop in battery life but connection isn't sustained very long anywhere I have been.
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With 4g on and active I was at 12 hours with 38% remaining. 2Hours and 30 minutes screen time.
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Can I use another 4G LTE provider on the Galaxy Note II from Sprint?
I have Boost Mobile and I had a Galaxy S2 with Clear.com 4G WiMax. I now can only get 3G, and as you ALL know the 3G speed has lowered quite a bit. (200~400k vs 700~900k 3 years ago)
Another alternative I guess would be to get a Hotspot, but who wants to carry around a phone AND a hotspot when you can have them both on the phone?
I believe you can use this device on any network that is actually using Sprint towers, like MetroPCS (?) or Boost?
There are threads somewhere for instructions on flashing this.
(i'm also talking out my ass, because I have only noticed these threads in passing, never actually researched this. But I bet if you Searched a bit, you'd find the info.)
Um LOL. Like the thread right under this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060085
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I believe you can use this device on any network that is actually using Sprint towers, like MetroPCS (?) or Boost?
There are threads somewhere for instructions on flashing this.
(i'm also talking out my ass, because I have only noticed these threads in passing, never actually researched this. But I bet if you Searched a bit, you'd find the info.)
Um LOL. Like the thread right under this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060085
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Thanks for the info but that's not what I meant. I mean the 4G service, not the voice, talk, text and 3G. I have that already. (that's what the thread under this one does, help you program the Note 2 on Boost, I already did that part. I meant the 4G LTE, i.e. connecting it on Verizon's LTE or T-Mobile's (MetroPCS is now part of T-Mobile I believe?) Heck, even a Sprint LTE account if they allowed it by itself with no talk/text service would be nice.
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Thanks for the info but that's not what I meant. I mean the 4G service, not the voice, talk, text and 3G. I have that already. (that's what the thread under this one does, help you program the Note 2 on Boost, I already did that part. I meant the 4G LTE, i.e. connecting it on Verizon's LTE or T-Mobile's (MetroPCS is now part of T-Mobile I believe?) Heck, even a Sprint LTE account if they allowed it by itself with no talk/text service would be nice.
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Impossible to do first off you need to understand how technology and radios work Tmobile is GSM. Sprint and verizon are CDMA and you can only "roam" on 3g verizon with a prl that can get you kicked off, if you abuse it.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Impossible to do first off you need to understand how technology and radios work Tmobile is GSM. Sprint and verizon are CDMA and you can only "roam" on 3g verizon with a prl that can get you kicked off, if you abuse it.
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Ok, so maybe I do need to do some research. LTE is *not* like WiMax? It doesn't have separate "device" from the actual voice/text/3G radio?
LTE uses the same radio as the cellphone and 3G?
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Ok, so maybe I do need to do some research. LTE is *not* like WiMax? It doesn't have separate "device" from the actual voice/text/3G radio?
LTE uses the same radio as the cellphone and 3G?
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WiMaXX was like a WiFi connection sorta. But yeah the radios arent all compatible. Just google some of it and search around here. I cant pin point thw links oe topics but there are here and there.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
WiMaXX was like a WiFi connection sorta. But yeah the radios arent all compatible. Just google some of it and search around here. I cant pin point thw links oe topics but there are here and there.
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Nice, thanks for the info!
You can't use Verizons LTE because the frequency is different. The sprint note 2 doesn't have versions LTE frequency to pick it up.
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musclehead84 said:
You can't use Verizons LTE because the frequency is different. The sprint note 2 doesn't have versions LTE frequency to pick it up.
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Ok thanks for the info. Any other carrier with the same frequencies as Sprint? (What frequencies does MetroPCS use?)
m4f1050 said:
Ok, so maybe I do need to do some research. LTE is *not* like WiMax? It doesn't have separate "device" from the actual voice/text/3G radio?
LTE uses the same radio as the cellphone and 3G?
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Ok, my fault. I assumed you knew these things.
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Ok thanks for the info. Any other carrier with the same frequencies as Sprint? (What frequencies does MetroPCS use?)
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right there, see. Metro actually uses Sprint towers (ie, Sprint services) ... So... Same frequency.
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kingdazy said:
Ok, my fault. I assumed you knew these things.
right there, see. Metro actually uses Sprint towers (ie, Sprint services) ... So... Same frequency.
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Thanks for the info.
Thats why this galaxy note 2 is my LAST Cdma phone. For SURE getting GsM next theres plenty of carriers with 4G for it. Cdma sucks because I cant get no 4G. Before this phone had the oneX and yea 4G I miss.
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chuko303 said:
Thats why this galaxy note 2 is my LAST Cdma phone. For SURE getting GsM next theres plenty of carriers with 4G for it. Cdma sucks because I cant get no 4G. Before this phone had the oneX and yea 4G I miss.
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are you high? all game providers in the us suck. only tower owners are att and T-Mobile and T-Mobile doesn't have any real 4g neither Winmax nor lte and att has as much lte as sprint (and sprint is going to overtake att with network vision )
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reinaldistic said:
are you high? all game providers in the us suck. only tower owners are att and T-Mobile and T-Mobile doesn't have any real 4g neither Winmax nor lte and att has as much lte as sprint (and sprint is going to overtake att with network vision )
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Are u a retard? Hmm my guess im right on spot with that one. Sprint can suck it. GSM is better and if you don't agree? Take a ticket and take a seat next to the idiots that are waiting for me to give a Fuk.
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Someones a crabby pants.
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Are u a retard? Hmm my guess im right on spot with that one. Sprint can suck it. GSM is better and if you don't agree? Take a ticket and take a seat next to the idiots that are waiting for me to give a Fuk.
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I give facts and argument you insult sprint... well of course you are right. who has ever heard of the "can suck it" argument ever loosing. that's how we explained to Hitler and the Japanese emperor that he had to surrender in WW2 "Mr Hitler can suck it" -pres trueman, "since I can suck it I have ordered my forces to surrender and suggested to the Japanese to do the same"-hitler (translated to English)
if you can't give facts to support your claim you can go head and get an iPhone on a gsm network since you are using the same arguments apple uses to ensnare its sheep -i mean- customers
either that or you are an at&t rep or fanboy trying to weakarm customers away from sprint. why you aren't targeting your biggest competitor Verizon is beyond me but take that stuff to T-Mobile customers they'll eat that up like they eat their "unlimited" throttled data
one bad experience in one city with one small period of data speed downturn does not a bad carrier make
oh and mods don't blame chuko (or me) for starting arguments. arguments are healthy and help shape perception
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In all fairness, Sprint in Denver does suck... 3g speeds right now. 200 kbps and no lte. There are a few lte towers popping up. but not in the metro area. Person in the cube next to me has AT&T and hspa+ is 15mbps and lte 40mbps. Faster than the cable provider here!
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In all fairness, Sprint in Denver does suck... 3g speeds right now. 200 kbps and no lte. There are a few lte towers popping up. but not in the metro area. Person in the cube next to me has AT&T and hspa+ is 15mbps and lte 40mbps. Faster than the cable provider here!
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Thaat my friend is what I mean. Sorry for not being more specific. Colorado
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reinaldistic said:
are you high? all game providers in the us suck. only tower owners are att and T-Mobile and T-Mobile doesn't have any real 4g neither Winmax nor lte and att has as much lte as sprint (and sprint is going to overtake att with network vision )
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Tmobile has 4G LTE in almost all of New York with some decent coverage in Washington, Baltimore and Philadelphia and they're just starting.. So they actually do have real 4G lol
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RayTrue04 said:
Tmobile has 4G LTE in almost all of New York with some decent coverage in Washington, Baltimore and Philadelphia and they're just starting.. So they actually do have real 4G lol
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is it actually LTE? Or 3.5G like they have now where its up 42MBs
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I was in their store a few min ago to close my line since my unlocked G Pro could only get edge wit T-Mob. The rep informed me that the G Pro is coming to T-Mobile in the next 2 months!
I had to clarify with him, if he meant the G2. And he verified that BOTH phones are coming soon, and read over the announcement and no actual release date has been given yet.
If this is true I'm gonna jump on this so fast!!
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Dream Reality Syndrome said:
I was in their store a few min ago to close my line since my unlocked G Pro could only get edge wit T-Mob. The rep informed me that the G Pro is coming to T-Mobile in the next 2 months!
I had to clarify with him, if he meant the G2. And he verified that BOTH phones are coming soon, and read over the announcement and no actual release date has been given yet.
If this is true I'm gonna jump on this so fast!!
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Well hate to say this but with any carrier NEVER fully believe what a store rep says. Be it be T-Mobile, AT&T or Verizon never believe them. If the employees knew im pretty sure it would had already leaked on the internet, and I have a friend who works at a T-Mobile store and they have only heard of possibly the G2 but not the Optimus G Pro..
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Well hate to say this but with any carrier NEVER fully believe what a store rep says. Be it be T-Mobile, AT&T or Verizon never believe them. If the employees knew im pretty sure it would had already leaked on the internet, and I have a friend who works at a T-Mobile store and they have only heard of possibly the G2 but not the Optimus G Pro..
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Damn that sucks
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Dream Reality Syndrome said:
Damn that sucks
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dont be mad... the at&t version is compatible with tmo, both in data and calls.
xenine said:
dont be mad... the at&t version is compatible with tmo, both in data and calls.
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Unfortunately, in my area the best I can get is Edge. I gotta wait til their towers are "modernized"
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Dream Reality Syndrome said:
I was in their store a few min ago to close my line since my unlocked G Pro could only get edge wit T-Mob. The rep informed me that the G Pro is coming to T-Mobile in the next 2 months!
I had to clarify with him, if he meant the G2. And he verified that BOTH phones are coming soon, and read over the announcement and no actual release date has been given yet.
If this is true I'm gonna jump on this so fast!!
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xenine said:
dont be mad... the at&t version is compatible with tmo, both in data and calls.
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Only will get 3G/4G in reframed Areas.
hyelton said:
Well hate to say this but with any carrier NEVER fully believe what a store rep says. Be it be T-Mobile, AT&T or Verizon never believe them.
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My wife works for Sprint, and part of her job involves explaining to angry customers that even though the store reps promised them the moon, they're not getting it.
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Only will get 3G/4G in reframed Areas.
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thats not entirely true. u can get LTE on the OGP as long as tmo provides it in that area.
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thats not entirely true. u can get LTE on the OGP as long as tmo provides it in that area.
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Only if their towers allow unlocked phones to use LTE in the area.
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I actually work for T. And Not in store. You should not believe the store reps. They normally don't know anything, all they know is getting the commission from your pocket & and make a mess in your acc so you call customer care and yell to a rep that has nothing to do.
They don't read the internal info.
Now getting on the subject. No gpro for tmobile. The LG G2, Motorola X, next iphones & note 3. Those are confirm phones from T internally.
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I opened a new line with T-Mobile and used it the past two weeks. I was able to unlock my G Pro with the T-Mobile SIM. I immediately searched and located T-Mobile APN settings to take advantage of their LTE service. The only time I had LTE available to me was towards LA, an hour south from where I live. Yet as soon as I popped in the T-Mobile SIM into my old T-Mobile HTC phone, I got more than Edge signal at my house.
So please, can someone explain to me why, at my house, I could only get T-Mobile Edge signal on my AT&T unlocked OG Pro, but using that same SIM I got better signal on my T-Mobile unlocked HTC?
After contacting T-Mobile myself, I was informed that the towers in my area haven't been "modernized" to allow unlocked devices on their LTE network. Currently, only their T-Mobile designated devices could access LTE here.
I must not be understanding something here. I'm sure I still have that conversation on my phone somewhere...
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InaruMejil said:
I actually work for T. And Not in store. You should not believe the store reps. They normally don't know anything, all they know is getting the commission from your pocket & and make a mess in your acc so you call customer care and yell to a rep that has nothing to do.
They don't read the internal info.
Now getting on the subject. No gpro for tmobile. The LG G2, Motorola X, next iphones & note 3. Those are confirm phones from T internally.
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Man, this brings me down lol
Well at least I won't be waiting around like an idiot for the G Pro!
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Only if their towers allow unlocked phones to use LTE in the area.
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Lol! , tower has nothing to do with unlocked phone.
Unlocked phone can be used in anywhere
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I opened a new line with T-Mobile and used it the past two weeks. I was able to unlock my G Pro with the T-Mobile SIM. I immediately searched and located T-Mobile APN settings to take advantage of their LTE service. The only time I had LTE available to me was towards LA, an hour south from where I live. Yet as soon as I popped in the T-Mobile SIM into my old T-Mobile HTC phone, I got more than Edge signal at my house.
So please, can someone explain to me why, at my house, I could only get T-Mobile Edge signal on my AT&T unlocked OG Pro, but using that same SIM I got better signal on my T-Mobile unlocked HTC?
After contacting T-Mobile myself, I was informed that the towers in my area haven't been "modernized" to allow unlocked devices on their LTE network. Currently, only their T-Mobile designated devices could access LTE here.
I must not be understanding something here. I'm sure I still have that conversation on my phone somewhere...
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T-mobile has their hspa+ and lte on the aws band, but your home area is only covered with hspa+. The G Pro does not support hspa+ on the aws band so at home you only get edge. The G Pro does support lte on the aws band so you will get fast speeds as long as you are in an lte area. The HTC phone only supports hspa+ but you have more hspa+ towers in your area than lte towers. Chances are you can take the HTC phone anywhere and get fast speeds.
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T-mobile has their hspa+ and lte on the aws band, but your home area is only covered with hspa+. The G Pro does not support hspa+ on the aws band so at home you only get edge. The G Pro does support lte on the aws band so you will get fast speeds as long as you are in an lte area. The HTC phone only supports hspa+ but you have more hspa+ towers in your area than lte towers. Chances are you can take the HTC phone anywhere and get fast speeds.
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Thanks! I found an app that helps me see coverage by service providers and the type of networks offered and it seems you are correct! T-Mobile has a measly spot off away from me, thus no LTE
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Waaaooo that rep get that answer from his a#$%. Tmobile has been working in what they call re farming. Its basictly that they move all the clients on 2g phones to 3g. So that tmobile could refarm that spectrum for lte..this was done in preparation for apple iphone on april 12 that the iphone arrive to tmobile. That actually cause that several other devices like android that use to work on edge now are able to get 4g or 3g or lte where available and stop the interoperability of none tmobile devices. All that thanks to crappy iphone. In resume either you are in a area that has not yet been re farm or it is and simply your lg does not have the correct apn. It is not the sim as lg g pro use the new sim type that enable lte.
Theres a treath somewhere here that using sqlite editor your able to enable the network mode on the lg. Wich will allow you to change bands. Maybe that will work.
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InaruMejil said:
Waaaooo that rep get that answer from his a#$%. Tmobile has been working in what they call re farming. Its basictly that they move all the clients on 2g phones to 3g. So that tmobile could refarm that spectrum for lte..this was done in preparation for apple iphone on april 12 that the iphone arrive to tmobile. That actually cause that several other devices like android that use to work on edge now are able to get 4g or 3g or lte where available and stop the interoperability of none tmobile devices. All that thanks to crappy iphone. In resume either you are in a area that has not yet been re farm or it is and simply your lg does not have the correct apn. It is not the sim as lg g pro use the new sim type that enable lte.
Theres a treath somewhere here that using sqlite editor your able to enable the network mode on the lg. Wich will allow you to change bands. Maybe that will work.
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Hey thanks for taking the time to explain this to me. I guess the rep's explanation of things really twisted my point of view. Your patience to break it down for me is appreciated.
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Well theres a catch in a phone able to work on a particular carrier. In the case of the lg pro. If the phone is the one from at&t you should not have any problem. As long as your area has been re farm. But i can't say the same lets say on a lte phone coming from china or other country as they might run lte on a different frequency.
At least is what i have seen while working with clients that bought chinesse copy cats.
I took this call of a lady that bough a chinesse copy of a gs4 and she call to complaint that work on edge. When i ask what type of phone she got, she told me well its a gs4. I was like what the #$% you just told me is a copy cat so no lady you don't have a gs4. Anywyas theres was no way to make it work on nothing.more than edge.
So in way you are righ but the other person is righ to in a way.
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