I am developing some enhancements against another Linux Kernel that is already on the forums. The Kernel itself doesn't seem to have a dedicated thread as it's normally distributed as part of a specific ROM. I believe most of my enhancements would be useful to other users of this ROM, but I am having difficulty getting in touch with the developer. I'm not interested in maintaining a complete fork with my own branding and name, but if I publish anything without the developers consent I would like to make it somewhat obvious that it's not the official kernel by the developer. I'm not sure the best way to advertise it though. I could create a new thread for the kernel in the same forum as the ROM and mention in the title it's a fork of the Ursa Minor kernel, or I could just post my update.zip for the kernel in the Andromeda3 thread which is the ROM it goes with. Should I first post a question on their thread about their wishes?
Since I tend to use North Winds as my organization, I've been prefixing nw1 onto version strings where appropriate, but keeping the branding as Ursa Minor in general since it's still 95% the same.
I'm not 100% sure of what your asking? You want to branch off a current developers kernel with your own modifications?
have you tried PMing the dev to ask if they're ok with it?
Basically, I'm curious what the best way to be respectful and publish my enhanced version of his kernel. I have sent the developer several PMs, but the last response I got was on the 13th when I was having trouble building his kernel. Three days later I published my first enhancement in source code form on github.com and sent another PM to the dev. Now I've added several more enhancements and I'd like to publish it, but I haven't seen any response from the dev since my help request on the 13th.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
Well it appears that since kernels are covered under the GPL, you are free to publish your work as long as you credit the original developer in your post. So feel free to post a new thread with your work
Hope that helps
Hey folks,
I've become increasingly concerned with the mods of our forum.
Two kernel projects have been stickied while the americanandroid 35 kernel thread is not nor has tytungs kernel. One of the currently stickied is even essentially a branch of the 35 project that marc1706 (good buddy) began expanding.
As for another issue, the stickied list of roms / kernels thread etc has never included AmeriCanAndroid even weeks after it was brought to the OPs attention. We feel that ignoring our request to be included on the list has partially steered away potential users.
If a mod can rectify these issues it would be awesome.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
warrenb213 said:
Hey folks,
I've become increasingly concerned with the mods of our forum.
Two kernel projects have been stickied while the americanandroid 35 kernel thread is not nor has tytungs kernel. One of the currently stickied is even essentially a branch of the 35 project that marc1706 (good buddy) began expanding.
As for another issue, the stickied list of roms / kernels thread etc has never included AmeriCanAndroid even weeks after it was brought to the OPs attention. We feel that ignoring our request to be included on the list has partially steered away potential users.
If a mod can rectify these issues it would be awesome.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A pm to forum mods and if required senior mod would have been more appropriate i guess, but since the thread is here now, i guess yeah, the sticky threads should be revised before being accepted as sticky ? or some form of public vote instead of sole admin/mod decision ?
Rick_1995 said:
A pm to forum mods and if required senior mod would have been more appropriate i guess, but since the thread is here now, i guess yeah, the sticky threads should be revised before being accepted as sticky ? or some form of public vote instead of sole admin/mod decision ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Or perhaps a kernel subforum with no stickies? Only reason I didn't pm a mod is because I'm on my phone so I can't get to the mod list....that and because I'm pretty sure at some point a mod saw two posts by me asking for this fair treatment in a couple of these threads as did the OP of the roms /kernel list as I was responded to by that OP without rectifying the issue.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
I remember when a person from your team totally raged at me because your rom wasn't added to my compilation thread.. I had clearly written that people could PM me if they wanted their roms in my list..
Now this ? If you want your kernel stickied, PM a moderator. We can't expect everything to just happen, we must participate ourselves.
+ remember, there are 40+ roms and many kernels out there, so a mod could have easily have missed seeing your kernel thread.
btw, this should be in Q&A
btw 2. tytungs kernel has been stickied.. and it is included in most of the roms.. so if people wants it, it shouldn't be so hard to find it.
Edit:
My compilation thread is stickied, so if people are looking for kernels, they can find yours in my thread
yz.hd said:
I remember when a person from your team totally raged at me because your rom wasn't added to my compilation thread.. I had clearly written that people could PM me if they wanted their roms in my list..
Now this ? If you want your kernel stickied, PM a moderator. We can't expect everything to just happen, we must participate ourselves.
+ remember, there are 40+ roms and many kernels out there, so a mod could have easily have missed seeing your kernel thread.
btw, this should be in Q&A
btw 2. tytungs kernel has been stickied.. and it is included in most of the roms.. so if people wants it, it shouldn't be so hard to find it.
Edit:
My compilation thread is stickied, so if people are looking for kernels, they can find yours in my thread
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It was me yz, and I didn't rage I more like pointed it out and also made the point that the list seemed a bit redundant considering the nature of the forum thread lists already in existence.
I do appreciate the response.
Thanks
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
warrenb213 said:
It was me yz, and I didn't rage I more like pointed it out and also made the point that the list seemed a bit redundant considering the nature of the forum thread lists already in existence.
I do appreciate the response.
Thanks
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Didn't see your thread in 1. / 2. page.. that's why I didn't include it. Sending a PM to me wouldn't be that hard.
i just think that mods are uninformed...
yz.hd said:
Didn't see your thread in 1. / 2. page.. that's why I didn't include it. Sending a PM to me wouldn't be that hard.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dear yz.hd, the mods are humans and can fail, but this is unfair, as was Warren starting development with the new kernel base wich is a success now, and tytungs kernel were always a big support of a huge quantity of roms, so would be good to see the work of this 2 fellas sticked too, I remember that this was already mentioned awhile back..
Its not a critic, we appreciate all the work that you guys do for us, its only a point out to improve our forums, and we now that they are huge, so is a big task, but kernel development is very important for hd2 development..
Sent from my HD2 using xda premium
yugoport said:
Dear yz.hd, the mods are humans and can fail, but this is unfair, as was Warren starting development with the new kernel base wich is a success now, and tytungs kernel were always a big support of a huge quantity of roms, so would be good to see the work of this 2 fellas sticked too, I remember that this was already mentioned awhile back..
Its not a critic, we appreciate all the work that you guys do for us, its only a point out to improve our forums, and we now that they are huge, so is a big task, but kernel development is very important for hd2 development..
Sent from my HD2 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well, I would rather want none of the kernels to be stickied then.. A lot of good kernels out there. If people wants to install a kernel, they can search.. or check the compilation thread.
Would be unfair (as it is now) if a kernel gets stickied, an one doesn't.. (I understand you)
BUT warrenb haven't PM'ed a mod. We can't expect the mods to read all the post that are being posted. That would just be wrong.
I'm going to be controversial here and say that the mods are fully aware that certain kernels are being stickied. In fact, NRGZ has stickied the SBryan Kernel even though it was queried as to why that should be stickied as important and others such as Marc's/Warrens and Tytungs hasn't.
This is always bound to happen when you sticky certain things and not others. My personal view is that these should be in a wrap up thread like what yz.hd has created and not stickied, else you clog up the 1st page with sticky's.
This is not a slight on NRGZ as this guy is a legend in the HD2 world but this sort of argument is a consequence of poor management.
Mods please take note and give all the devs equal respect for their work.
I'll look into this. Closing the thread off. Any further issues on this should be done in PM.
Tiny and Chad,
Let me first start off by saying I love you guys. Since your development of your kernels for the droid incred the DINC has never ever been a faster better device so thank you.
BUT!!!! You need to update the kernel to support HWA for ICS ROMS. I have been using AOKP ROMS (link: http://forum.aokp.co/page/news) for my DINC instead of preludedrews and moongoosehelixs because their ROMS do not allow me to use your kernel. But their ROMS come with a stock kernel that supports HWA which lets me use Chrome Beta and among other things such as youtube. Being that I have supported you guys for almost 2 years and even donated I am calling you out to fix this finally and once again become the top kernel provider for the DINC. If it takes a donation and donations from your followers (which I am sure there is many) then so be it.
Please please make this happen your kernel is uncanny and I would love to rube it in the faces of those that use that terrible kernel that does not support anything even fast charge..cough (tiamat)...not to mention terrible battery life and very very very veee rrr yyyy slow
With love Martin
EDIT: in no way am I bashing other kernel developers this post was meant to be fun and grab the attention of my favorite kernel developers chad/tiny...
Adding HWA to the Incredikernel series breaks GB compatibility, something very important given that 40-60% of Android devices run Gingerbread as of this posting.
WildZontar said:
Adding HWA to the Incredikernel series breaks GB compatibility, something very important given that 40-60% of Android devices run Gingerbread as of this posting.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well they maintain a working sense/aosp kernel why not maintain a sense/aosp/ics kernel ya know? I mean I am no kernel developer so I do not understand the time/hard work that it takes ( I am sure it is long hours of coding) but this kernel is a GOD kernel to use DINC users I would just love to see it have working HWA and I miss chad....never here from the guy anymore...
Wow... So many things wrong with this post:
1) Wrong Section - if it's not some development to share, it doesn't belong in a thread here. Read the rules.
2) Never ask for ETAs - Cyanogenmod's #1 rule, but a good practice to follow with all devs.
3) Demanding a free service from developers who donate their time is wrong
4) Using donations as leverage is wrong. You donated because of their GB kernels, not for future work. They are under no obligation to continue dedicating their lives for any donation amount that would be given on XDA
5) The general rule of the dev community is: If it isn't there, try to learn for yourself and share it with everyone! If not, patiently wait or make kind suggestions in the thread. Do NOT created a new thread with very many demanding words.
I don't think chad or tiny would get offended by this thread, even though it's posted in the wrong section, would likely be better served in the actual thread for the kernel or maybe PMing tiny or chad (and tiny is way more active for the dINC).
But agreed I think it would be a good idea to just separate GB and ICS kernels to improve them both easier and without making sure they are both compatible with each other.
It's all up to the DEV's though, they're the ones doing all the hard work so they can do whatever they wanna do!
No need to ask. I've already given thought to this and pmed chad for assistance. But I don't much like the title or the op. It screamed demand to me. I get that internet sarcasm is sometimes hard to catch.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
Questions or Problems Should Not Be Posted in the Development Forum
Please Post in the Correct Forums & Read the Forum Rules
Moving to Q&A
Hey guys, i contacted despair factor about the development of despair kernel for find 7. Though it has been discontinued but he is ready to assist and train people who are interested in participating in the development of this kernel further. He isn't active on the xda forum but he told me to direct interested people to his g+ forum.
Those who are interested in developing and testing the despair kernel please contact despair factor on his G+ page.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/117685307734094084120
Let's make our find 7 awesome again! :good:
Even after samsung released kernel sources still no development started yet
Thank you for that important message. We have not known that.
What a great contribution to the community
Wait for them to start or plan to start the development by yourself.
I reported your post for your rude behaviour