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Jelly bean for one v?

We know that jb will come officially for the one x, but what about one v? Some say that the processor isnt good enough for jb, while some say that the one series is the flagship series of htc and they cant leave one v out! So what do you say? Lets have a good discussion!

soham_sss said:
We know that jb will come officially for the one x, but what about one v? Some say that the processor isnt good enough for jb, while some say that the one series is the flagship series of htc and they cant leave one v out! So what do you say? Lets have a good discussion!
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We cannot know for sure right now. If HTC will not provide us a JB build, probably will be ported from our brothers, Saga, even One S..

1ceb0x said:
We cannot know for sure right now. If HTC will not provide us a JB build, probably will be ported from our brothers, Saga, even One S..
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I think it will be quite a bummer if the "flagship" One series's V won't get the update to 4.1
HTC rewrites the UI quite much so it will be time to rewrite everything to the One V, but I think it would be done in time.
And not to forget that JB is practicaly a patch for ICS, so I think V will be capable of the system.

YES, One V *WILL* get JellyBean
Reasons:
As Ken Shi_Kun said,
I think it will be quite a bummer if the "flagship" One series's V won't get the update to 4.1
HTC rewrites the UI quite much so it will be time to rewrite everything to the One V, but I think it would be done in time.
And not to forget that JB is practicaly a patch for ICS, so I think V will be capable of the system.
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JellyBean isn't something like Android 5 or 6. It's just 4.1.
Also, many people have bought One V as it's really cheaper than One X and One S and has the same IceCreamSandwich (just the HTC Sense 4.0 UI is a lite version). People like One V more than One X and One S (yes I've seen such people too!) as it can actually be called a "phone" which fits it the pocket and is easy to use. One S and One X have bigger screen size which is obviously little difficult to handle and the One S and One X are really costly (it's not worth buying just a "mobile phone" for this price). One V has the chin too! My friend specially bought One V for chin!
When anyone would like to buy an HTC phone and sees the One Series, probably the first choice be One X but the person will buy One V for sure if he is a budget-like person (who doesn't buy things more than his budget).
Moreover, there aren't many things for HTC to do for getting JellyBean for One V. It's just 4.1!

Ken-Shi_Kun said:
I think it will be quite a bummer if the "flagship" One series's V won't get the update to 4.1
HTC rewrites the UI quite much so it will be time to rewrite everything to the One V, but I think it would be done in time.
And not to forget that JB is practicaly a patch for ICS, so I think V will be capable of the system.
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Totally wrong!
One V is not "flagship" at all. You cannot call "flagship" a phone that has 512 mb ram and a cpu that is 2 years old. This phone will PROBABLY NOT get Jelly Bean as an official rom, but then again, only time can tell.
AND JELLY BEAN IS NOT A PATCH FOR ICS!
If this is called 4.1 it doesn't mean this is a patch! Have you read what Jelly bean brings to Android OS? Changes are internally, not externally as in graphics and widgets. You all are expecting new theme instead of new code implemented and things rewriten just to make Android moving alot faster.
Have you ever heard of project BUTTER? This is the new stuff implemented in Jelly Bean. What this does? Well on short, GPU + CPU = UI RENDERING (as in Sense Rendering). Right now, ALL of Android OS'es are working like this CPU = UI RENDERING.
So Project Butter will make Android working at 60 fps, by activating GPU alongside CPU to make the UI rendering and thus not stressing so much the CPU that will have time and resources to do other stuff (such as running apps in background better etc.)

The One series is a premium line including the V. The mid-low line HTCs this year are called Desire. This is close to what Ken-Shi-Kun is saying. As the device was just released in April 2012 and HTC is marketing it as premuim (regardless of the 1 core CPU), it has lots of development life left.
Also, Jelly Bean shares critical hardware-side components such as drivers with ICS. This greatly reduces headache for the developers. For now, all of us are speculating.

CafeKampuchia said:
I noticed in your signature line that you want people to be polite. Great advice.
The One series is a premium line including the V. The mid-low line HTCs this year are called Desire. This is close to what Paresh is saying. On the other hand, the One V is not two years old as you say. It was released in April 2012. It has lots of development life left.
Also, Jelly Bean shares critical hardware-side components such as drivers with ICS. This greatly reduces headache for the developers. For now, all of us are speculating so there is no need to be harsh.
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Read again. I said that ONE V has a cpu that is 2 years old right now. Not the device! You though that I have the phone and i was thinking that it was released 2 years ago? And I am polite, I'm just explaining things. Or what, now if you explain something, you are called impolite or aggresive?
Get your act together dude!

I corrected my post above.
Peartfan40, you are right (below). My apologies to you, 1ceb0x and the community for my unwarranted bickering.

but what about the gpu of one v? Does it (or rather, will it) be able to handle 60fps?

1ceb0x said:
Read again. I said that ONE V has a cpu that is 2 years old right now. Not the device! You though that I have the phone and i was thinking that it was released 2 years ago? And I am polite, I'm just explaining things. Or what, now if you explain something, you are called impolite or aggresive?
Get your act together dude!
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CafeKampuchia said:
Notice that I correct my post because I missed what you said before I read yours. Again, you should heed your own words.
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Are we done here? Everything good now? No more bickering, ja?
Thank you.
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Look at what Android central has to say to this.
http://www.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-or-tablet-get-jelly-bean-and-when :good:

that news is pure speculation, is like i'm saying to you that One V will not get JB, will get the android that will be built in 2 years from now.... if that story had something official, it would be great, but it doesn't

1ceb0x said:
that news is pure speculation, is like i'm saying to you that One V will not get JB, will get the android that will be built in 2 years from now.... if that story had something official, it would be great, but it doesn't
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No, but Android central has the benefit of experience dude, and the gpu of one v can run 60 fps...Why dont you think it'll not get Jb update??

Even if htc does decide to give jelly bean to our devices, it's going to be bloated with so much crapware(read:sense) that I'm sure the effects of project butter will not be seen.
I think we're better off waiting for this device to get more development and maybe cm10 will come for it.

tranceph0rmer said:
Even if htc does decide to give jelly bean to our devices, it's going to be bloated with so much crapware(read:sense) that I'm sure the effects of project butter will not be seen.
I think we're better off waiting for this device to get more development and maybe cm10 will come for it.
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Project Butter's REALLY cool...I dont think sense (read by you as crapware) will cause lag, and suppose it does, we can always flash our custom roms...Why not give it a try??

it is said that JB is not SO much different from ICS and it will be quite easy to upgrade ICS-running devices to JB. It wont take long as trasnfer from GB to ICS. Plus HTC tries to upgrade most of its devices releases in last 2 years, so I guess maybe it will take longer for One V to get JB than S or X but eventually it will.

ismail_kz said:
it is said that JB is not SO much different from ICS and it will be quite easy to upgrade ICS-running devices to JB. It wont take long as trasnfer from GB to ICS. Plus HTC tries to upgrade most of its devices releases in last 2 years, so I guess maybe it will take longer for One V to get JB than S or X but eventually it will.
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no! JB is DIFFERENT from ICS. TOTALLY!
user interface remained the same, yes! but the changes are internally, on how the UI is rendered. basically the transitions and overall speed will get increased 100%!

Also, HTC is going to use its own launcher
Those new expanding notifications and the resizable widgets will most probably get disposed, or worse, "sensed".

Good read on what's new in project butter:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...roject-butter-how-it-works-and-what-it-added/

guys, we WILL get jellybean...probably slightly watered down to what the other ONE series devices will get, but we will get it...all depends on HTC and your Network....here's an example... my girlfriend has the Xperia ARC and Sony released ICS for it officially back in april\may her network provider STILL hasn't released it for her phone

Lost hope :/

SO guys I've finally LOST HOPE on my XPERIA S Lt26i..
I want to know are there any else people who've also LOST HOPE of a STABLE ROM for it ?

No......
U can upgrade if u wish....
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I've lost hope - at the time I bought this phone I could have got a SP for the same price. I regret this phone.
However, I don't really care about android updates now. The 12mp sensor is quite good on this phone.
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Saurav16 said:
SO guys I've finally LOST HOPE on my XPERIA S Lt26i..
I want to know are there any else people who've also LOST HOPE of a STABLE ROM for it ?
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I hate to say it but yes

There are two developers working on porting z2 firmware to our phone so I'm gonna say no... I didn't lose hope... Plus our phone is doing better than many phones which announced at the same time
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Well I've literally tried every single ROM that came by...
Most of them were so good...
But then either developer left the project or got a new phone or just stopped building for this phone... In last 2 years (quite literally the longest time I've kept a phone) I've totally enjoyed using this phone but I think it's time to move on...
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Saurav16 said:
Well I've literally tried every single ROM that came by...
Most of them were so good...
But then either developer left the project or got a new phone or just stopped building for this phone... In last 2 years (quite literally the longest time I've kept a phone) I've totally enjoyed using this phone but I think it's time to move on...
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Trinity Ultimate Rom? That was a good Rom until he abandoned it and deleted the files of his server.
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It´s getting old and it shows now.. Not top quality either, so many annoying little things, so yes!

Didn't lost hope
Still, with Sony JB (rooted), the best phone I ever had.
It's getting old as every phone does, so where's the problem. If you like to have more support on firmware you should have bought a Google phone. Didn't know that, I did at the time a bought my Sony.

I didn't expect more from a 2012 phone.. comparing to other phones released that year our Nozomi devices are quite good, we just didn't receive proper support from neither Qualcomm (abandoned our Scorpion CPUs) and Sony (1 year to upgrade to Jelly Bean with more bugs than anything and stoped support using the lack of drivers excuse).. Today we have the same as almost every mid-range phone, but with a good camera.
720p display, 12.1MPx Camera, 1750mAh Battery, dedicated camera button and the best of sony: we can use ports from newer xperia devices. I also have a Samsung Galaxy S II i9100 and I can say that our Xperia S is way superior. In the SGS2 Android Development section there are almost no ports from newer Galaxy devices, only AOSP/CM ROMs. The ROMs that claims to have SGS4/SGS5 features are mostly lies and I can confirm that. I flashed some of those ROMs and the features they "ported" are just copies they made themselfs, not the actual port itself. I don't know if they don't port it because Touchwiz is crap or because they can't do it... but after all a SGS2 won't run SGS5 apks, but a Xperia S easily runs Xperia Z2 apks.

Lunatiic said:
I didn't expect more from a 2012 phone.. comparing to other phones released that year our Nozomi devices are quite good, we just didn't receive proper support from neither Qualcomm (abandoned our Scorpion CPUs) and Sony (1 year to upgrade to Jelly Bean with more bugs than anything and stoped support using the lack of drivers excuse).. Today we have the same as almost every mid-range phone, but with a good camera.
720p display, 12.1MPx Camera, 1750mAh Battery, dedicated camera button and the best of sony: we can use ports from newer xperia devices. I also have a Samsung Galaxy S II i9100 and I can say that our Xperia S is way superior. In the SGS2 Android Development section there are almost no ports from newer Galaxy devices, only AOSP/CM ROMs. The ROMs that claims to have SGS4/SGS5 features are mostly lies and I can confirm that. I flashed some of those ROMs and the features they "ported" are just copies they made themselfs, not the actual port itself. I don't know if they don't port it because Touchwiz is crap or because they can't do it... but after all a SGS2 won't run SGS5 apks, but a Xperia S easily runs Xperia Z2 apks.
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can you give me a link for your kernel TX-Core Ultimate Kernel 5.9

If you just buy it recently and with the standar price i bought 2 year ago, then that's a hope to lost
I mean i stick with my Xperia S and still think it one of the best around, and if you buy it couple years ago then why lost hope? Just need a stable rom for calling and play some good game? it's still work perfectly
I's just recently start to using rom cook and the experience is more amazing so why to compare it to the new phone and lost hope ?
Just move on if you want, if you want hard enough you will find a way to get out of the *lost hope* phone :silly:

No I'm not. Try the OpenSEMC-U ROM. It's fast like hell, and stable enough for daily use. But this is the last stable and fast ROM after the offical. Our's phones has got an old SoC (Snapdragon S3). The Qualcomm has stopped developing drivers for this SoC early. I just call this SoC "Blacksheep". It has so much power inside, but without good drivers...

Szatyor said:
No I'm not. Try the OpenSEMC-U ROM. It's fast like hell, and stable enough for daily use. But this is the last stable and fast ROM after the offical. Our's phones has got an old SoC (Snapdragon S3). The Qualcomm has stopped developing drivers for this SoC early. I just call this SoC "Blacksheep". It has so much power inside, but without good drivers...
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yes i am using that only for quite some time now.... but now i am thinking of flashing the stock rom now and selling it though that would be hard for me as i was totally in love with this phone....

XDA_h3n said:
Trinity Ultimate Rom? That was a good Rom until he abandoned it and deleted the files of his server.
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ya that was a good rom from a good developer...

Sorry to ask but does this thread serve any purpose?
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Sense 6 rom for hox

I think that if the nexus 5 could get a sense 6 port from the htc one (m8) then even our hox can get the same but i havent heard of any development in this regard .It would be great if our talented Devs could port it cause i really liked the UI and im sure many will agree with me.I know it is not an easy task but the Devs are very much capable of accomplishing this task.Moreover we dont have a sense rom running beyond 4.2.Let me know what u think and if its possible.(some tegra issue exists i guess)

Like every other thread opened for this...it's not going to happen. Sense 6 will not see the daylight on the hox !
And this topic has been covered numerous times already, as a search would have pointed you to it !

reubenvarghese1 said:
I think that if the nexus 5 could get a sense 6 port from the htc one (m8) then even our hox can get the same but i havent heard of any development in this regard .It would be great if our talented Devs could port it cause i really liked the UI and im sure many will agree with me.I know it is not an easy task but the Devs are very much capable of accomplishing this task.Moreover we dont have a sense rom running beyond 4.2.Let me know what u think and if its possible.(some tegra issue exists i guess)
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Where are you taking this logic from?Nexus 5 is Qualcomm device and has support for kitkat, on other hand ONE X is tegra device and was abandoned by both Tegra and HTC.
So in short it will never ever happen, closes you can get to sense 6 is by flashing ViperX 4.1.0 which has some sense 6 parts.

ivicask said:
Where are you taking this logic from?Nexus 5 is Qualcomm device and has support for kitkat, on other hand ONE X is tegra device and was abandoned by both Tegra and HTC.
So in short it will never ever happen, closes you can get to sense 6 is by flashing ViperX 4.1.0 which has some sense 6 parts.
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True and it rocks! <3

The galaxy nexus has TI omap processor and still runs kit kat, everything is possible

You don't understand......it's not possible due to the tegra !

Giorgos zografos said:
The galaxy nexus has TI omap processor and still runs kit kat, everything is possible
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And HOX is running AOSP kitkat, whats your point?Does Galaxy nexus runs full sense 6 port?

ViperX 4.1.0 is your best bet if you can download it
I sure as hell can't

Manchue said:
ViperX 4.1.0 is your best bet if you can download it
I sure as hell can't
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Try this?
https://yadi.sk/d/1_qCC5z8RvVkv
Thanks goes to @meat_hooligan for this download link!

Why development is going slow for m9?

It's been months since m9 was launched but still we find very less development here compared to other recently launched phones .. There isn't any official cyanogenmod projects for the device yet,nor there are many custom kernel options. There aren't much activity in general except on sense rom.. Is it because less and less people have bought m9?
I am sure we would love to see more ROM and kernel options.

arpith.fbi said:
It's been months since m9 was launched but still we find very less development here compared to other recently launched phones .. There isn't any official cyanogenmod projects for the device yet,nor there are many custom kernel options. There aren't much activity in general except on sense rom.. Is it because less and less people have bought m9?
I am sure we would love to see more ROM and kernel options.
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I noticed this however going from S4 to M9 is a huge difference. 2 years there abouts and samsung and a few other brands have a larger fan base who will ALWAYS buy those phones and so development is much more frequent.
Give it time and im sure things will pick up, especially once the CM team crack it and deliver what will undoubtedly be an awesome rom. That will pave the way for more AOSP / CM style roms which im very much looking forward to
have faith mate.

You mean compared to the S6? If you think this place is slow, go check those forums out. Considering how many more of those have sold, compared to the M9, S6 development is dead as a doornail.
From what I've seen, development for anything not Nexus has slowed quite a bit. Not as many people are modding their phones, I think because Android and the manufacturer skins have picked up a lot of the mods people used to want to root for.
That being said, things should pick up once CM is official.
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iElvis said:
You mean compared to the S6? If you think this place is slow, go check those forums out. Considering how many more of those have sold, compared to the M9, S6 development is dead as a doornail.
From what I've seen, development for anything not Nexus has slowed quite a bit. Not as many people are modding their phones, I think because Android and the manufacturer skins have picked up a lot of the mods people used to want to root for.
That being said, things should pick up once CM is official.
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The development is slow because of the exynos chipset. IF it was snapdragon, the story wouldn't be the same.
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Roobwz said:
The development is slow because of the exynos chipset. IF it was snapdragon, the story wouldn't be the same.
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The development here is slow because of the 64 bit processor. If it was 32 bit, the story wouldn't be the same.

Most mods have become baked into roms. Hell we can theme easily now. What's the real point of having 70 copies of the same thing.
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what are you talking about there is atleast 10 different ROMs and CM12.1 almost fully working

Does this phone live up to days standards ?

Hello !
i just wanted to ask a simple question , a friend wanted me to switch my s4 mini with his HTc one X
But since i dont know much from the device i wanted to ask you guys if the HTC is more powerful than my S4 ?
Does it have a nice performance on graphic demanding games ?
Have a nice day

GreyhoundAV said:
Hello !
i just wanted to ask a simple question , a friend wanted me to switch my s4 mini with his HTc one X
But since i dont know much from the device i wanted to ask you guys if the HTC is more powerful than my S4 ?
Does it have a nice performance on graphic demanding games ?
Have a nice day
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Hi ! Both Devices arent really up to date , but i think the HTC one x with its Quadcore Tegra CPU and a better and bigger Display is the better Choice , even the S4 mini is the newer Device. Just my personel Opinion.
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fares70 said:
Hi ! Both Devices arent really up to date , but i think the HTC one x with its Quadcore Tegra CPU and a better and bigger Display is the better Choice , even the S4 mini is the newer Device. Just my personel Opinion.
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so you are saying the CPU is better on the HTC ?
im kinda suprised since Geekbench gave me a different answer

GreyhoundAV said:
so you are saying the CPU is better on the HTC ?
im kinda suprised since Geekbench gave me a different answer
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As i said , just my personal View. I dont own the S4 mini anymore but my Wife uses the HTC one x flashed with a Lolipop Rom , and its still a good Device. Must say im not a big Gamer.
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fares70 said:
As i said , just my personal View. I dont own the S4 mini anymore but my Wife uses the HTC one x flashed with a Lolipop Rom , and its still a good Device. Must say im not a big Gamer.
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does the battery life imrpove with the lolipop ROM because it's terrible on the stock one

GreyhoundAV said:
does the battery life imrpove with the lolipop ROM because it's terrible on the stock one
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To be honest i never used Stock , but my experience with most Devices is that Stock is normaly better in Battery.
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fares70 said:
To be honest i never used Stock , but my experience with most Devices is that Stock is normaly better in Battery.
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will it still be alive after 1 day usage ?

GreyhoundAV said:
will it still be alive after 1 day usage ?
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That depends on your personel usage.Every User is different.But as far as what "normal" is ,i think you will be recharging in the Evening.
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I'd also recommend the HTC One X.
Like fares70 said, keep your charger near you every evening . I'd say try other Kernels because they DO improve battery life from my opinion.
Keep in mind that I've got a device with a nearly dead battery.
Bought a battery with a higher capacity and i'll report back about the battery life as soon as it arrives!