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I thought SGX540 that's superior than iphone4 would run new games without any lags but for new games such as 9mm and let's golf 3 i've face many stutter on those games. I'd like to ask others that you have problem like me or not ? or maybe next time i'd go back to ios or waiting ice cream sandwich. Those games are smooth in iphone4 but not in galaxy s that has superior GPU.
I didn't play to 9mm and I just tested Lets Golf3, but yeah... it's not strange to have some small lags sometimes.
If gaming on the phone is very important for you I suggest to use samsung roms and not cm7 or miui.
And yeah, maybe you should have buy an iPhone, Android still can beat iOS when it comes to games
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I notice the lags too. I strongly believe that the lags are caused primarily by low ram. On Froyo, I never had lags in games, and they were all super smooth. But on gingerbread, after a few hours of usage, the ram drops below 100mb, and the games will lag. The games don't lag on a fresh boot. Hence, the problem is not with the gpu, but with the fact that 512mb of ram is just not enough for gingerbread. If you want to remove the lags in games as well as in the phone interface, I recommend that you flash a 2.2.1 rom. ZSJPK was one of the best roms I've ever used.
Yeah, sgx540 is better than the 535 use in iphone 4, but it's all about drivers and optimisations. And we can't deny that Apple is doing a wonderfull job with iOS.
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I notice the lags too. I strongly believe that the lags are caused primarily by low ram. On Froyo, I never had lags in games, and they were all super smooth. But on gingerbread, after a few hours of usage, the ram drops below 100mb, and the games will lag. The games don't lag on a fresh boot. Hence, the problem is not with the gpu, but with the fact that 512mb of ram is just not enough for gingerbread. If you want to remove the lags in games as well as in the phone interface, I recommend that you flash a 2.2.1 rom. ZSJPK was one of the best roms I've ever used.
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indeed, i also think the lags are caused by lack of ram...
when you move the camera around in the game it sometimes hangs and when the textures are in RAM, you can continue playing without fps drops or lag
a tip before you start playing:
- root your phone and install "autostarts" to disable all crap which boots up with android
- reboot phone
- after booting go to task manager and cleanup ram
- go to settings => applications => active services and kill unnecessary processes. (for example, when you close the facebook app, it still keeps running as a service, sometimes almost using 50MB ram)
i reduced lag in 9mm alot with the method above...
Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
Simplicitiy is very good!
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Simplicitiy is very good!
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how many ram does system take with that rom?
For games playing, 2.2.1(JSD) is a Must!
titooo7 said:
I didn't play to 9mm and I just tested Lets Golf3, but yeah... it's not strange to have some small lags sometimes.
If gaming on the phone is very important for you I suggest to use samsung roms and not cm7 or miui.
And yeah, maybe you should have buy an iPhone, Android still can beat iOS when it comes to games
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... what? You're suggesting Samsung over CM7/MIUI when you want more performance? Are you trying to troll or something?
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indeed, i also think the lags are caused by lack of ram...
when you move the camera around in the game it sometimes hangs and when the textures are in RAM, you can continue playing without fps drops or lag
a tip before you start playing:
- root your phone and install "autostarts" to disable all crap which boots up with android
- reboot phone
- after booting go to task manager and cleanup ram
- go to settings => applications => active services and kill unnecessary processes. (for example, when you close the facebook app, it still keeps running as a service, sometimes almost using 50MB ram)
i reduced lag in 9mm alot with the method above...
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Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
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Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
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Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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I can't use supercharger with semaphore kernel, and CF bigmem settings (98 mb) doesn't solve the performance issue.
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No, custom roms, even so called simple and bare ones, use more ram than stock roms. I recommend ZSJPK 2.2.1, which has about 180mb of ram on boot, and an average of 120-140mb or ram after two days' usage.
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I can't use supercharger with semaphore kernel, and CF bigmem settings (98 mb) doesn't solve the performance issue.
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Then you do it without the script. What's the problem here? I have over 2,000 games on my phone. And no, that wasn't a typo. None of them lag.
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Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
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because android automatically closes apps when RAM is low and services always keep running in the background, whether you need them or not.
why would you let a service use your ram when you don't even need it? THAT is common sense.
bigmem kernel may help? its what i use
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... what? You're suggesting Samsung over CM7/MIUI when you want more performance? Are you trying to troll or something?
Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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Learn some manners, people here are just trying to help. Have you actually tried the two games mentioned in op, you tell us you have 200 games installed is 9mm and lets golf included in these?
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I've rolled back to froyo and now without apps in the background i0ve about 140mb of ram used, and now 9mm goes smooth. I'm not moving from froyo any more.
Also, now the battery lasts in 6 hours of screen usage, and with jvt only 4 hours
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because android automatically closes apps when RAM is low and services always keep running in the background, whether you need them or not.
why would you let a service use your ram when you don't even need it? THAT is common sense.
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Do you even use an Android phone?
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Learn some manners, people here are just trying to help. Have you actually tried the two games mentioned in op, you tell us you have 200 games installed is 9mm and lets golf included in these?
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Are they though? When I help someone out, I tell them correct information. If I don't know the correct information, I don't tell them anything. Why? Because incorrect information is worse than not helping at all. Few people in this thread have given remotely acceptable advice. No one needs to do a 3-step process, including rebooting your phone, just to play games; likewise, no one needs to downgrade to Froyo in order to game either.
I have Let's Golf! 3D installed currently, but I don't have the most recent revision of 9MM—although I have played it in the past. I have my phone's CPU and GPU overclocked, like I'm sure many of us do here, and I can play both without noticeable lag. I didn't have to reboot my phone to play them. I didn't have to uninstall apps to play them. I didn't have to flash an entirely new ROM to play them. And I certainly didn't need to stand on one leg with the phone above my head to play them.
Bad advice is just bad.
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Do you even use an Android phone?
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I posted what helped reducing lag in 9mm on my phone.
if you don't need the help i posted, that's too ****ing bad. the fact this topic was started shows people are facing the same problem with lack of usable ram memory for 9mm.
looks like you have some sort of magic phone with unlimited amounts of ram memory that never lags
the reason why i told him to reboot his phone is because ram usage is much less in most cases, right after booting up.
and btw, next time do some more effort instead of posting one line if my information is not correct
Hi,
I've had my Archos G9 80 updated to the latest android official 4.0.5 from and since then i'm expriencing lots of crushes and freezes. I'm getting them randomly with no specific app working.
Also, i have tried to do full formats (Android + Data), and still having same issues.
Does anyone have any idea what else i can try?
Thanks.
I had lots of freezes too (not only with the latest firmware). They seem to be gone since I changed the CPU govenor from "hotplug" to "interactive". I'm not sure yet that it was the reason, but try it and let us know if it helps.
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I changed the CPU govenor from "hotplug" to "interactive".
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how this is done? Ι have the same problem!
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how this is done? Ι have the same problem!
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Yes, can this be done from the phone itself? Within the ROM?
You can set this in any tool that is intended for overclocking. I don't overclock, I only changed the Govenor.
I use "SetCPU". ("No-frills CPU Control" should do the same.)
So does this have any other effects on the phone?
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So does this have any other effects on the phone?
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Nothing too serious. Your CPU is clocked dynamically so it doesn't run full speed when there is nothing to compute(save energy). To my understanding the govenor is basically a policy to manage how quickly the frequency steps up/down on changing CPU load. So "powersave" is supposed to save energy but make the system a little less reactive than "interactive" Governor for example. I think I read somewhere "hotplug" deactivates the second core on low load situations, I suspect for some strange reason my device might have crashed sometimes on trying to wake up the sleeping second core. Well maybe I'm wrong, that's why I'm interested if it helps others.
I didn't notice any change in battery lifetime, mostly it's the display anyway that drains the battery. Everything is running well, battery lifetime is great too and no crash/freeze at all since i changed that setting and it crashed almost every damn day before, no matter if it was Honeycomb or ICS.
I downgraded the device to 4.0.4 and since then, no crushes.. I guess for some reason 4.0.5 isn't stable on my device.. ill stick with this version unroll they get another one out..
To downgrade, just install official update file of the version you want to upgrade to..
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Nothing too serious. Your CPU is clocked dynamically so it doesn't run full speed when there is nothing to compute(save energy). To my understanding the govenor is basically a policy to manage how quickly the frequency steps up/down on changing CPU load. So "powersave" is supposed to save energy but make the system a little less reactive than "interactive" Governor for example. I think I read somewhere "hotplug" deactivates the second core on low load situations, I suspect for some strange reason my device might have crashed sometimes on trying to wake up the sleeping second core. Well maybe I'm wrong, that's why I'm interested if it helps others.
I didn't notice any change in battery lifetime, mostly it's the display anyway that drains the battery. Everything is running well, battery lifetime is great too and no crash/freeze at all since i changed that setting and it crashed almost every damn day before, no matter if it was Honeycomb or ICS.
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Thanks! And I have notices ICS is not as snappy as GB was... I mean GB flew! Swiping the screen, it feels a little off now.
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Thanks! And I have notices ICS is not as snappy as GB was... I mean GB flew! Swiping the screen, it feels a little off now.
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GB? Gingerbread? Guess you mean Honeycomb. Anyway, I experienced ICS to be much better.
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I had lots of freezes too (not only with the latest firmware). They seem to be gone since I changed the CPU govenor from "hotplug" to "interactive". I'm not sure yet that it was the reason, but try it and let us know if it helps.
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changing govenor from "hotplug" to "interactive" seems to help against random freezes. 4 days without problems until now i had freezes with ics, but never with honeycomb.
device: archos 101g9
[ROM] Archos ICS - Firmware 4.0.5(4.0.3) - ROOT & BUSYBOX , Only for SDE (thanks surdu_petru)
DeeDroid said:
I had lots of freezes too (not only with the latest firmware). They seem to be gone since I changed the CPU govenor from "hotplug" to "interactive". I'm not sure yet that it was the reason, but try it and let us know if it helps.
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That seems to be my problem too. Setcpu requires root. is there a very easy way to do this, just to run this setcpu? There used to be a z4 tool, but can't seem to find it anymore.
Edit I see that I need superoneclick. Will temporary root suffice or will I need permanent root to change the governor setting.and keep it so.
Unfortunately all know temp root variants tend to brake things- im Honeycomb sound, in ICS 3d driver.
The only real option is to enable SDE and use custom firmware.
As for freezes- try reinstalling apps. Direct upgrade from Honeycomb does not work for all
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GB? Gingerbread? Guess you mean Honeycomb. Anyway, I experienced ICS to be much better.
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I have the same experience. Hc was laggy and slow. Ics is much faster and smoother.
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Unfortunately all know temp root variants tend to brake things- im Honeycomb sound, in ICS 3d driver.
The only real option is to enable SDE and use custom firmware.
As for freezes- try reinstalling apps. Direct upgrade from Honeycomb does not work for all
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sorry for the n00b question, but SDE stands for ??? S ? Develeper Edition ?
Will "Superoneclick" not root my device ?
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sorry for the n00b question, but SDE stands for ??? S ? Develeper Edition ?
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Special Developer Edition
sbtwister said:
Will "Superoneclick" not root my device ?
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No, it won't. Gen9 system layout is different than for most other devices
hey, back to topic
5 days without freeze with govenor "interactive". i witched back to "hot plug" this morning and had to reboot my tablet 2 times today. for my case, "interactice" seems to help against random freezes.
mines performance intstead of interactive... experienced some freezing n interactive..
Man I'm really pissed.
Yesterday I had to hard reboot 7 times
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hmm,
sounds not good. archos stands not for high quality i guess. we get what we pay . i had an archos 101g8, now a 101g9 and trouble with hard-/firmwares since 2010. i think, this was the last one - no furthermore advantures
@IrishStuff09: you did reformat for ics or upgrade from honeycomb? the best way is to start from scratch and skip upgrades.
Hi all,
I've been fiddling with RipTide GP a little bit, just wondering if anyone else has noticed a dip in fps when you set the graphics up from Default to Sharper Graphics?
I mean obviously this is to be expected but I was hoping the T3 could cope okay, what settings do you run it at and are you ROM'd or Stock?
Chears M'dears!
T-L-H
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Hi all,
I've been fiddling with RipTide GP a little bit, just wondering if anyone else has noticed a dip in fps when you set the graphics up from Default to Sharper Graphics?
I mean obviously this is to be expected but I was hoping the T3 could cope okay, what settings do you run it at and are you ROM'd or Stock?
Chears M'dears!
T-L-H
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you loose 60fps with the full resolution, thats kinda acceptable given how effects heavy the game is
i also noticed with this game the interactive governor is better but not perfect, since your are using the tilt sensor and not "interacting" with the screen as muhc
and so the governor drops the clocks sometimes
best way to play it is with minimum clock set to 1.0ghz and interactive gov
wish so wish there was a game launcher app on android where we set governor, clocks and minfrees per game
hamdir said:
you loose 60fps with the full resolution, thats kinda acceptable given how effects heavy the game is
i also noticed with this game the interactive governor is better but not perfect, since your are using the tilt sensor and not "interacting" with the screen as muhc
and so the governor drops the clocks sometimes
best way to play it is with minimum clock set to 1.0ghz and interactive gov
wish so wish there was a game launcher app on android where we set governor, clocks and minfrees per game
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You lose a full 60fps when set to sharper Graphics?! Jeez that's alot, still as you said it is really effects heavy!
At first I thought I was getting tired and wasn't concentrating properly when playing lastnight! Now I know I was loosing a lotta fps!
Interactive Govenor seems best for most games then I think, RipTide GP, Nova 3 etc...
Still haven't set my Govenor yet as I need to install System Tuner.
A game launcher App that set up the Govenor, Clocks and minfrees would be great!, just click in and out of 'Gaming Mode' before and after you play would be amazing! Instead you need to change it all into 'Gaming Mode' and then back to defaults or loose loads of battery!
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You lose a full 60fps when set to sharper Graphics?! Jeez that's alot, still as you said it is really effects heavy!
At first I thought I was getting tired and wasn't concentrating properly when playing lastnight! Now I know I was loosing a lotta fps!
Interactive Govenor seems best for most games then I think, RipTide GP, Nova 3 etc...
Still haven't set my Govenor yet as I need to install System Tuner.
A game launcher App that set up the Govenor, Clocks and minfrees would be great!, just click in and out of 'Gaming Mode' before and after you play would be amazing! Instead you need to change it all into 'Gaming Mode' and then back to defaults or loose loads of battery!
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still ondemand? forget FPS on that governor bro!
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still ondemand? forget FPS on that governor bro!
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I'm completely stock
So I haven't changed any of my Govenors about yet.
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I'm completely stock
So I haven't changed any of my Govenors about yet.
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man you can change gov on the fly using system tuner and its free
go for it
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man you can change gov on the fly using system tuner and its free
go for it
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Is it best to leave it running the interactive gov? or is it best to change between Int. and OnD. govs?
Also, Task Killer... I thought I heard once that killing everything in TK is not a great idea as thememory managemnt is pretty aggressive... plus, it's got bits running in it that I'm not 100% on, should be okay to kill it all right?...
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Got System Tuner, how do I actually change the Govenors?
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Is it best to leave it running the interactive gov? or is it best to change between Int. and OnD. govs?
Also, Task Killer... I thought I heard once that killing everything in TK is not a great idea as thememory managemnt is pretty aggressive... plus, it's got bits running in it that I'm not 100% on, should be okay to kill it all right?...
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no dont use task killer
you can use supercharge which is complicated but follow my guide to save the stock minfrees and change them on the fly using script manager widgets
or simply in System Tuner auto-kill menu you can change them on the fly
rebooting will restore the stock values
as for ondemand it best to switch back for battery when ur done
all explained in my gaming guide by the wide you just have to force yourself to read it
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no dont use task killer
you can use supercharge which is complicated but follow my guide to save the stock minfrees and change them on the fly using script manager widgets
or simply in System Tuner auto-kill menu you can change them on the fly
rebooting will restore the stock values
as for ondemand it best to switch back for battery when ur done
all explained in my gaming guide by the wide you just have to force yourself to read it
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I have read through it, a few times
I'm looking at it now
You experience slowdowns on HOX with Riptide GP? What's wrong? I mean, on my device with graphics maxed out the game runs silky smooth, no lags of any kind. In my opinion it may very well be the best optimized game for our device. And my HOX is still locked, unrooted and not modified in any way, I'm haven't even done the tricks hamdir has suggested in his guide. I never needed, although he does provide some sound advice. I just played a match of 3 rounds, finishing first just to check. And it only at a 3% of my battery!
Is it possible that you have loaded your Sense launcher with widgets/pages/cities or have many running background tasks that may actually cause the slowdown?
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You experience slowdowns on HOX with Riptide GP? What's wrong? I mean, on my device with graphics maxed out the game runs silky smooth, no lags of any kind. In my opinion it may very well be the best optimized game for our device. And my HOX is still locked, unrooted and not modified in any way, I'm haven't even done the tricks hamdir has suggested in his guide. I never needed, although he does provide some sound advice. I just played a match of 3 rounds, finishing first just to check. And it only at a 3% of my battery!
Is it possible that you have loaded your Sense launcher with widgets/pages/cities or have many running background tasks that may actually cause the slowdown?
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frame drops are different from slow down
@ Feregorn: The game isn't slowing down I'm loosing frames, they're different.
Slow down is when everything slows down because the CPU/GPU can't cope with what they're processing and/or get bottlenecked.
Frame Drops are what happens when the game stops showing like 100fps and drops to like 40fps, so gameplay will look less 'smooth' and may appear to 'skip' a little bit.
Atleast that's my take on it, @ Hamdir, correct me if I'm wrong?
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@ Feregorn: The game isn't slowing down I'm loosing frames, they're different.
Slow down is when everything slows down because the CPU/GPU can't cope with what they're processing and/or get bottlenecked.
Frame Drops are what happens when the game stops showing like 100fps and drops to like 40fps, so gameplay will look less 'smooth' and may appear to 'skip' a little bit.
Atleast that's my take on it, @ Hamdir, correct me if I'm wrong?
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speed remains the same just the smoothness sensation lowers as the frame the rate is reducing from 60fps to 30fps or less
Mine don't lag at all
I stand corrected then...Oww guess I'll have to live with my mistake....But although it may seem that we are talking 2 different things the gist of the matter is that while playing with Riptide on my HOX I still don't experience any framedrops/slowdowns or whatever. Game apperas to me, to run silky smooth (and I'm an experienced gamer), just like GoW 3 did on the PS3. I'm talking about THAT kind of optimization. I can't understand what in the world has made the game to have on your defice such an inferior performance that it becomes noticeable.
which firmwares do you guys have?
1.29.401.11. for me
I only get noticeable frame dips when I am on stock on franco and eternity I don't notice any
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I have the same also. Everything stock. But on the Sense homescreen, I only have 3 pages, one with the Weather clock, google search and a birthday widget, one with the full-page music widget and one with the full page calendar widget. I've also disabled autosyncing for most of the time. Maybe these are helpful in improving overall performance???
Hi there
I have a Galaxy nexus on android 4.3 and running 3d games have lots of lag. For example, the game with the most amount of lag is Modern Combat 4 with the meltdown update. Is there a way to improve the gpu processor power on the phone so that itwouldboost the framerate? Its always about 5-15 fps and im so annoyed. If there is a solution, could you let me know? My galaxy nexus is not rooted.
Does it plays smoothly then, for no reason, it gets laggy for some seconds, then come back to play everything smoothly again, then repeats? Or it just keeps being laggy at all times?
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Does it plays smoothly then, for no reason, it gets laggy for some seconds, then come back to play everything smoothly again, then repeats? Or it just keeps being laggy at all times?
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It does exactly that, it plays smooth for 5 seconds then ridiculous lag for 10 seconds then repeats like a loop.
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It does exactly that, it plays smooth for 5 seconds then ridiculous lag for 10 seconds then repeats like a loop.
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What I'm gonna tell you now may be related to what what is happening with your device or not. It was my problem, so if it's not this I don't know what can be happening.
First, the galaxy nexus can downvote it's processors when it's too hot, although it's probably not that, just keep that in mind.
Anyway, go to settings - apps then "running apps" and check the used and free ram. If you have high RAM usage (like, 600 mbs being used) than this is probably the problem. While you're in the game, your gnexus will try to clean RAM for it, but since your gnexus is already out of RAM, it will force close background app's and services, but since those are required to run all the time, all that's going to happen is that they will keep being restarted, causing lag in the apps that are running.
To check if this is the problem, just check how much free ram you have free. If it's too low, open a game (even temple run 2 or sub way surfers will do), then when the game starts, go back to settings-app-running apps and check for things restarting.
If this is the problem, then you need to see what is the apps that are consuming all your RAM (although it can be android itself, just keep reading).
Just check what apps are in the running part of the "running apps". If you have a lot of apps running, then you can try freezing some of them or unnistalling the ones that consume more RAM. BUT! it may be that there's just too much RAM being consumed even though you have few apps running, in this case, the problem is android itself.
I don't know if this happens to android 4.3 itself, the gnexus's version of it or if it's some app causing it, but there's a memory leak that will eventually consume all your RAM. I'll use my case as an exemple: I have some common apps running on background (facebook, messenger, whatsapp, airdroid, 3d watchdog). If everything is normal, my "used RAM" keeps aroung 430mb~. Leaving almost 200mb~ free for apps to use. But after some days using my phone, the used ram will grow to 500, then 550, then 600mb, eventually to 630mbs.
Check if this is happening to you. To check, simply reboot your device, then when it boots, check how your RAM is being used.
If it was normal before the reboot (around 500mb, probably even less) and stay this way after the reboot, then your problem is another one, then I can't help you.
If your RAM was high and after the reboot it's still high, check your running apps.
If it's high but after the reboot it's back to normal, then you just "solved" your problem. Just keep rebooting daily.
If this was your problem, then enjoy your phone. If it's not, you can try checking some other things like the I/O speed (which was solved in android 4.3. Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971852&highlight=trim ).
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What I'm gonna tell you now may be related to what what is happening with your device or not. It was my problem, so if it's not this I don't know what can be happening.
First, the galaxy nexus can downvote it's processors when it's too hot, although it's probably not that, just keep that in mind.
Anyway, go to settings - apps then "running apps" and check the used and free ram. If you have high RAM usage (like, 600 mbs being used) than this is probably the problem. While you're in the game, your gnexus will try to clean RAM for it, but since your gnexus is already out of RAM, it will force close background app's and services, but since those are required to run all the time, all that's going to happen is that they will keep being restarted, causing lag in the apps that are running.
To check if this is the problem, just check how much free ram you have free. If it's too low, open a game (even temple run 2 or sub way surfers will do), then when the game starts, go back to settings-app-running apps and check for things restarting.
If this is the problem, then you need to see what is the apps that are consuming all your RAM (although it can be android itself, just keep reading).
Just check what apps are in the running part of the "running apps". If you have a lot of apps running, then you can try freezing some of them or unnistalling the ones that consume more RAM. BUT! it may be that there's just too much RAM being consumed even though you have few apps running, in this case, the problem is android itself.
I don't know if this happens to android 4.3 itself, the gnexus's version of it or if it's some app causing it, but there's a memory leak that will eventually consume all your RAM. I'll use my case as an exemple: I have some common apps running on background (facebook, messenger, whatsapp, airdroid, 3d watchdog). If everything is normal, my "used RAM" keeps aroung 430mb~. Leaving almost 200mb~ free for apps to use. But after some days using my phone, the used ram will grow to 500, then 550, then 600mb, eventually to 630mbs.
Check if this is happening to you. To check, simply reboot your device, then when it boots, check how your RAM is being used.
If it was normal before the reboot (around 500mb, probably even less) and stay this way after the reboot, then your problem is another one, then I can't help you.
If your RAM was high and after the reboot it's still high, check your running apps.
If it's high but after the reboot it's back to normal, then you just "solved" your problem. Just keep rebooting daily.
If this was your problem, then enjoy your phone. If it's not, you can try checking some other things like the I/O speed (which was solved in android 4.3. Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971852&highlight=trim ).
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When I checked, I had about 300-400 megabytes of ram being used. Thank you for the info and the effort though. It has a dual core processor, it should be able to run well.
I figuare out the problem of the game lag, the CPU temperature limt!
If you're using custom kernel, set the limit to 74, and u will find out it smoothly on game play, plus if you of the gpu to 384, its almost lag free, but frame drop is also here coz the gpu power.
Does this work on stock kernel also? Last time i had custom kernel, lots of screen problems.
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Does this work on stock kernel also? Last time i had custom kernel, lots of screen problems.
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Nope, flash leankernel, wipe cacje and dalvik cache, install trickster mod, and adjust the settings.
Quite less you can do with stock kernel.
ok i have lean kernel but where do i change the setting in the franco kernel app
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ok i have lean kernel but where do i change the setting in the franco kernel app
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You need to use trickster mod not Franco app. The Franco app is optimized for the Franco kernel.
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OK I installed trickster but every time I try to change a setting, after a reboot, it goes back to stock. What now
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You need to use trickster mod not Franco app. The Franco app is optimized for the Franco kernel.
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FKU also incorporates LeanKernel Updater so why isn't it optimized
And just to add that the above trick of disabling thermal throttling works nicely for me. I always wondered about why playing PPSSPP produces random lag - setting the governor to "performance" won't help a bit - and FKU saved my ass!
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Hi, i want to share some experiences
My phone is samsung galaxy A70
When i played games, especially HD game, in the beginning there is no problem, but when i have played a while (especially in game battle that involved many characters, motions, effects etc) my phone memory suddenly slowed down, the game is not running smoothly like in the beginning.
I will have like 0, second lag/freeze. And it really annoy my gaming experience
I can guarantee it is not the connection problem
(And it is not the game frame rate/graphic either, because they are not happening from the beginning, if it is frame rate/graphic problem of course the problem will occur from i started the game or everytime i played it)
Base from my experience, i think problem like this it must be something wrong with the RAM
My phone has 6 GB RAM, and my still new, only 2 weeks since i bought it
I have another phone with 4 GB RAM playing the same game and it is running perfectly smooth in the same connection, NO LAG, NO FREEZE in every moment of the game.
No resources-hungry apps running in the background
No live widget feeds
No background sync
Only standard push notifications
So i was thinking maybe it is the system or driver problem that make the RAM doesn't run well
What do you think? What should i do?
Any informations or advices would be helpful and thank you very much (for reading) ?
If it is PUBG Mobile, my mobile also lagging with latest update
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It's not a Ram problem. It's called throthling. Your phone reaches a certain temperature and the phone Throthless the speed of both GPU and CPU in order to protect it from overheating. Thats why this most of the time happens a bit later when playing.
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It's not a Ram problem. It's called throthling. Your phone reaches a certain temperature and the phone Throthless the speed of both GPU and CPU in order to protect it from overheating. Thats why this most of the time happens a bit later when playing.
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Thanks for the informations mate
But how can i fix this problem?
Can do some setups in setting or something else?
But i doubt that is the reason
Because when i restart the game, it became normal again
If it is because of temperature, i guess it will remain the same although i restart the game
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If it is PUBG Mobile, my mobile also lagging with latest update
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No, it is mobile legends
Alessiolyncle said:
Thanks for the informations mate
But how can i fix this problem?
Can do some setups in setting or something else?
But i doubt that is the reason
Because when i restart the game, it became normal again
If it is because of temperature, i guess it will remain the same although i restart the game
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You can't fix this as it's not a problem. This is a normal reaction of most of the phones. Even computer GPUs work the same. When they reach a ceartain temperature "limit", they thortle down the speed in order to prevent the GPU from overheating.
Sure, it could be also the game, some bad optimization. RAM has nothing to do with it. 6GB ram is plenty and even much more RAM hungry games run good with so much RAM.
Of course, after restarting the gameor after closing the game, the phone cooles down, pretty fast, but in the same time it can heat up pretty fast, especially if you're using the phone or playing the games while charging the phone. The only solution would be to go for better phones, High End SOC's which can handle those game easily without any strugle.
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It's not a Ram problem. It's called throthling. Your phone reaches a certain temperature and the phone Throthless the speed of both GPU and CPU in order to protect it from overheating. Thats why this most of the time happens a bit later when playing.
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If overheating is the problem, it should be immediately starts on first day i bought it, but this problem just came out after i used this A70 for 3 weeks, what do you think just happened here?
A70 gaming issues
I have same issue with A70, after 5min or 8min game play in pubg the device heats up lags freezes.
I talk to Samsung support centre they said with new update our device is ok,it may b from game.then I said to pubg developers and they said our game is fine it may be your device.
So in the end there is no specific solution
I done it in developer option, I use GPU for screen composite only,after this the game goes fine.
I'm not experiencing lag or freezes during gaming, instead my problem is that game tend to refresh while I'm multitasking, for a 6gb ram phone thats a bit disappointing, and its not even a high demanding game I think (epic seven), I don't know though could be the game's problem, but then google tend to refresh as well
I'm playing Call of duty mobile and the same thing happens to me and the brightness goes down
Purchase A70 or not for COD
I am currently playing COD on Samsung S8 & it runs smoothly. I am currently planning to purchase Samsung A70 especially for COD. Please advice what can i do (Purchase A70 or not)
I dont know why this thread was bumped but you guys could try this
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Are you familiar with Powershell? Platform Tools? Follow this guide right here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-a50/how-to/heavy-debloat-ui-lag-ota-t3929189
I disabled four packages
.\adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.samsung.android.game.gamehome
.\adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.samsung.android.game.gametools
.\adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.enhance.gameservice
.\adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.samsung.android.game.gos
Its up to you if youre gonna debloat more packages from your phone but this really helps.
Im still currently studying which apps is not useful and which do i disable as i like having most of the features to my phone.
Goodluck on your phone mate.
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I have Samsung A70 since autumn of 2019. I tried to play games like: Asphalt 9 (highest settings), FIFA Mobile (highest settings), NBA2K20 (I don't remember all settings are highest or some of them, anyway settings is not low), Call of Duty Mobile (Highest settings), also Grand Theft Auto San Andreas (Highest setting) and some others popular HD games. All games working smoothly, without any freeze or lag. My recommendations is: to uninstalled apps which u don't using at all or to disabled it, also do battery mid optimization, to turn off background working of apps which u don't need to work and keep to work only apps like: weather, if u have some widget and others where to need to update all the time information. From 6 GB RAM free always is about 2 - 2.5GB included that working Facebook which eating RAM a lot, weather or banking, sports apps and notifications. Bluetooth, GPS and others features which eating yours memory. I don't remember about Pugb Mobile, I guest I tried it without any problems, ran smoothly, but fact that I don't like this game at all for strange (if i'm not wrong) blue zone, when u have some time to run somethere before this zone kills u. I always don't know where to run, coz always i'm on zone, also why this happening at all. For the same reason I don't play this mode on Call of Duty Mobile too. Anyway this phone is really good for gaming, if you have trouble of lag/freeze try to all the time to do optimization of yours phone it very easy just one click on widget ir several if you did not that long time, also try sometime reboot yours phone, it recommend by manufacturers. Also to disable or uninstall apps which u don't need at all. By the way it not maybe important, but Samsung A70 have game app in which u can do more things to do better game experience like to turn off notification while u playing, also others things like to control to save battery or to do better game performance. By the way was one game which lag in this phone that NBA 2K Mobile, very big lag, even if is highest settings, but as I saw and I know it lagging in Samsung S10 too, so probably it problems of game, not phone. As I know this phone at this moment is not supported 100%, I know in Google Play u can download it, but as I mentioned it is not support, coz lag, the same I know that 2K saying too.
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I dont know why this thread was bumped but you guys could try this
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There is no reasons to do that. Simple things just free more RAM memory, do some changes like optimizations of battery, in Game app do better performance and ect. Turn off notifications which u don't need, to close apps in background which u don't need to work and others simple things, don't forget to sometime reboot smartphone. I do that everyday for several times if I playing all day. Coz battery can be alive several hours of full of playing games, so when I going to charge it, I do reboot too. It recommend by manufacturers.
Iam An Android Developer....But I Stopped Development for android since last year.....Iam Currently Using Galaxy A70 Also...Its a beast........i know why games are lagging and FPS Drop issue...its happening because of Software Optimization...Wait For April Security Patch Where Samsung Will Fix The Issue regarding fps drop and lagging in games...Its a Virtual Memory Bug....Which Can Be Fixed also by android developers but you need to root your device...i would suggest you to wait till april security patch ...after that u will notice a big improvement on gaming part and its related bugs...Ram Has Nothing To Do With It Guys....And SNAPDRAGON 675 SOC Is A Very Powerful SOC..And This SOC Is Capable To Run Any Games Smoothly...U Should Know That Guys...
So The Moral Of My Point Is Software Optimization
Thank You......
hello there,
I got the same device for Call Of Duty Mobile and unfortunately i'm facing major issues since android updated to 10.
It could be just a coincidence but, i didn't face the problems before the update. my problem is with the video mainly: the screen turns black, while i still can hear the sound, the device answers correctly to the moves i do when the screen is black (tested with an other player telling me what my character was doing).
to try to have root cause, i installed the app 'game booster plus from samsung store), and it seems that it's a problem of a temperature and / or Graphic processor) the idicators turn red before the game crashes.
i raised the issue to samsung and no solution from them until now... safe mode and basic stuff that doesn't help... like resetting the phone...
in my opinion, my last test should be hard reset the phone to get back to android 9 and try.
else I shoud try a cooler behind the phone while playing.
i'm really bothered , because this device should be a beast and i saw how amazing the game was on lower specifications like galaxy A51.
i'll post back here if any news.
Geekbench
Hi guys i have same problem with my a70 and maybe u want to check the OpenCL score of A70 in geekbench and compare it's score with A20,A20E,A30S
I don't know what is opencl maybe it affect the GPU
And excuse me for my bad English