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Laggy

My phone is actually quite laggy now. Sometimes flicking between the menus lags so I have to restart my phone.
Also, high end processes such as the game asphalt lag A LOT.
Whats up? I thought this was "the most powerful phone in the world"?

+1 finding mine to lag a lot as well........

Mine also becomes increasingly laggy, the only thing that sort of works is using advanced task killer to stop the all the background running programs, some were running on mine i dont even remember opening!

Not finding this at all. I think it's certain apps that cause it as my phone is practically full of apps barely any space left but still not laggy.
EDIT: No task manager on mine either.

i have around 40 apps including asphault and sygic navigation and i nevered faced lag in my desire....!!!! the only time i restart the phone is when i have all of them running and cause i don't want to kill them with task managers i restart in order for it to close them itself.

Sorry but I must say, I'm a bit disappointed. The Phone is Luggy.
And I don't even dare to compare it to Iphone (And Yes I know it boosts more then twice the resolution of the Iphone), but still When I play Asphalt It looks like a Pentium 3 running - Crysis.
So... "Fastest Phone ever made"??? Maybe only on paper...

Asphalt for some reason does not run well on the Desire, the game is butter smooth on my Milestone. Let's hope they optimize it for the Desire as well, the game is quite good.

The phone does get very laggy unless you use a task manager. For a snapdragon powered phone it doesn't seem to be very "Snappy". It's seriously bad in the "All Programs" menu especially.
As for gaming, the milestone will unfortunately always be better than the Desire. It has an OMAP/PowerVR CPU/GPU combo (The same as the Nokia N900) which outclasses the Snapdragon in 3D gaming but is slightly slower in CPU intensive apps.

I've been attacked with huge consistent lag since 2 days now (unknown before) but it was the miscall app and app organizer running in the background causing it (as well as voraciously depleting the battery life) so not a problem here.
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Galaxy S gaming performance

I thought SGX540 that's superior than iphone4 would run new games without any lags but for new games such as 9mm and let's golf 3 i've face many stutter on those games. I'd like to ask others that you have problem like me or not ? or maybe next time i'd go back to ios or waiting ice cream sandwich. Those games are smooth in iphone4 but not in galaxy s that has superior GPU.

I didn't play to 9mm and I just tested Lets Golf3, but yeah... it's not strange to have some small lags sometimes.
If gaming on the phone is very important for you I suggest to use samsung roms and not cm7 or miui.
And yeah, maybe you should have buy an iPhone, Android still can beat iOS when it comes to games

im currently on JVT.firmware
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I notice the lags too. I strongly believe that the lags are caused primarily by low ram. On Froyo, I never had lags in games, and they were all super smooth. But on gingerbread, after a few hours of usage, the ram drops below 100mb, and the games will lag. The games don't lag on a fresh boot. Hence, the problem is not with the gpu, but with the fact that 512mb of ram is just not enough for gingerbread. If you want to remove the lags in games as well as in the phone interface, I recommend that you flash a 2.2.1 rom. ZSJPK was one of the best roms I've ever used.

Yeah, sgx540 is better than the 535 use in iphone 4, but it's all about drivers and optimisations. And we can't deny that Apple is doing a wonderfull job with iOS.
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disclaimernotice said:
I notice the lags too. I strongly believe that the lags are caused primarily by low ram. On Froyo, I never had lags in games, and they were all super smooth. But on gingerbread, after a few hours of usage, the ram drops below 100mb, and the games will lag. The games don't lag on a fresh boot. Hence, the problem is not with the gpu, but with the fact that 512mb of ram is just not enough for gingerbread. If you want to remove the lags in games as well as in the phone interface, I recommend that you flash a 2.2.1 rom. ZSJPK was one of the best roms I've ever used.
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indeed, i also think the lags are caused by lack of ram...
when you move the camera around in the game it sometimes hangs and when the textures are in RAM, you can continue playing without fps drops or lag
a tip before you start playing:
- root your phone and install "autostarts" to disable all crap which boots up with android
- reboot phone
- after booting go to task manager and cleanup ram
- go to settings => applications => active services and kill unnecessary processes. (for example, when you close the facebook app, it still keeps running as a service, sometimes almost using 50MB ram)
i reduced lag in 9mm alot with the method above...

Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues

Simplicitiy is very good!

alwo1303 said:
Simplicitiy is very good!
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how many ram does system take with that rom?

For games playing, 2.2.1(JSD) is a Must!

titooo7 said:
I didn't play to 9mm and I just tested Lets Golf3, but yeah... it's not strange to have some small lags sometimes.
If gaming on the phone is very important for you I suggest to use samsung roms and not cm7 or miui.
And yeah, maybe you should have buy an iPhone, Android still can beat iOS when it comes to games
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... what? You're suggesting Samsung over CM7/MIUI when you want more performance? Are you trying to troll or something?
_breez_ said:
indeed, i also think the lags are caused by lack of ram...
when you move the camera around in the game it sometimes hangs and when the textures are in RAM, you can continue playing without fps drops or lag
a tip before you start playing:
- root your phone and install "autostarts" to disable all crap which boots up with android
- reboot phone
- after booting go to task manager and cleanup ram
- go to settings => applications => active services and kill unnecessary processes. (for example, when you close the facebook app, it still keeps running as a service, sometimes almost using 50MB ram)
i reduced lag in 9mm alot with the method above...
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Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
lpalvaro said:
Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
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Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...

upichie said:
Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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I can't use supercharger with semaphore kernel, and CF bigmem settings (98 mb) doesn't solve the performance issue.

lpalvaro said:
Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
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No, custom roms, even so called simple and bare ones, use more ram than stock roms. I recommend ZSJPK 2.2.1, which has about 180mb of ram on boot, and an average of 120-140mb or ram after two days' usage.

lpalvaro said:
I can't use supercharger with semaphore kernel, and CF bigmem settings (98 mb) doesn't solve the performance issue.
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Then you do it without the script. What's the problem here? I have over 2,000 games on my phone. And no, that wasn't a typo. None of them lag.

upichie said:
Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
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because android automatically closes apps when RAM is low and services always keep running in the background, whether you need them or not.
why would you let a service use your ram when you don't even need it? THAT is common sense.

bigmem kernel may help? its what i use

upichie said:
... what? You're suggesting Samsung over CM7/MIUI when you want more performance? Are you trying to troll or something?
Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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Learn some manners, people here are just trying to help. Have you actually tried the two games mentioned in op, you tell us you have 200 games installed is 9mm and lets golf included in these?
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I've rolled back to froyo and now without apps in the background i0ve about 140mb of ram used, and now 9mm goes smooth. I'm not moving from froyo any more.
Also, now the battery lasts in 6 hours of screen usage, and with jvt only 4 hours

_breez_ said:
because android automatically closes apps when RAM is low and services always keep running in the background, whether you need them or not.
why would you let a service use your ram when you don't even need it? THAT is common sense.
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Do you even use an Android phone?
leroys said:
Learn some manners, people here are just trying to help. Have you actually tried the two games mentioned in op, you tell us you have 200 games installed is 9mm and lets golf included in these?
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Are they though? When I help someone out, I tell them correct information. If I don't know the correct information, I don't tell them anything. Why? Because incorrect information is worse than not helping at all. Few people in this thread have given remotely acceptable advice. No one needs to do a 3-step process, including rebooting your phone, just to play games; likewise, no one needs to downgrade to Froyo in order to game either.
I have Let's Golf! 3D installed currently, but I don't have the most recent revision of 9MM—although I have played it in the past. I have my phone's CPU and GPU overclocked, like I'm sure many of us do here, and I can play both without noticeable lag. I didn't have to reboot my phone to play them. I didn't have to uninstall apps to play them. I didn't have to flash an entirely new ROM to play them. And I certainly didn't need to stand on one leg with the phone above my head to play them.
Bad advice is just bad.

upichie said:
Do you even use an Android phone?
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I posted what helped reducing lag in 9mm on my phone.
if you don't need the help i posted, that's too ****ing bad. the fact this topic was started shows people are facing the same problem with lack of usable ram memory for 9mm.
looks like you have some sort of magic phone with unlimited amounts of ram memory that never lags
the reason why i told him to reboot his phone is because ram usage is much less in most cases, right after booting up.
and btw, next time do some more effort instead of posting one line if my information is not correct

[Q] Galaxy nexus gaming ridiculous lag

Hi there
I have a Galaxy nexus on android 4.3 and running 3d games have lots of lag. For example, the game with the most amount of lag is Modern Combat 4 with the meltdown update. Is there a way to improve the gpu processor power on the phone so that itwouldboost the framerate? Its always about 5-15 fps and im so annoyed. If there is a solution, could you let me know? My galaxy nexus is not rooted.

Does it plays smoothly then, for no reason, it gets laggy for some seconds, then come back to play everything smoothly again, then repeats? Or it just keeps being laggy at all times?

ygorvaz said:
Does it plays smoothly then, for no reason, it gets laggy for some seconds, then come back to play everything smoothly again, then repeats? Or it just keeps being laggy at all times?
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It does exactly that, it plays smooth for 5 seconds then ridiculous lag for 10 seconds then repeats like a loop.

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speedsolve said:
It does exactly that, it plays smooth for 5 seconds then ridiculous lag for 10 seconds then repeats like a loop.
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What I'm gonna tell you now may be related to what what is happening with your device or not. It was my problem, so if it's not this I don't know what can be happening.
First, the galaxy nexus can downvote it's processors when it's too hot, although it's probably not that, just keep that in mind.
Anyway, go to settings - apps then "running apps" and check the used and free ram. If you have high RAM usage (like, 600 mbs being used) than this is probably the problem. While you're in the game, your gnexus will try to clean RAM for it, but since your gnexus is already out of RAM, it will force close background app's and services, but since those are required to run all the time, all that's going to happen is that they will keep being restarted, causing lag in the apps that are running.
To check if this is the problem, just check how much free ram you have free. If it's too low, open a game (even temple run 2 or sub way surfers will do), then when the game starts, go back to settings-app-running apps and check for things restarting.
If this is the problem, then you need to see what is the apps that are consuming all your RAM (although it can be android itself, just keep reading).
Just check what apps are in the running part of the "running apps". If you have a lot of apps running, then you can try freezing some of them or unnistalling the ones that consume more RAM. BUT! it may be that there's just too much RAM being consumed even though you have few apps running, in this case, the problem is android itself.
I don't know if this happens to android 4.3 itself, the gnexus's version of it or if it's some app causing it, but there's a memory leak that will eventually consume all your RAM. I'll use my case as an exemple: I have some common apps running on background (facebook, messenger, whatsapp, airdroid, 3d watchdog). If everything is normal, my "used RAM" keeps aroung 430mb~. Leaving almost 200mb~ free for apps to use. But after some days using my phone, the used ram will grow to 500, then 550, then 600mb, eventually to 630mbs.
Check if this is happening to you. To check, simply reboot your device, then when it boots, check how your RAM is being used.
If it was normal before the reboot (around 500mb, probably even less) and stay this way after the reboot, then your problem is another one, then I can't help you.
If your RAM was high and after the reboot it's still high, check your running apps.
If it's high but after the reboot it's back to normal, then you just "solved" your problem. Just keep rebooting daily.
If this was your problem, then enjoy your phone. If it's not, you can try checking some other things like the I/O speed (which was solved in android 4.3. Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971852&highlight=trim ).

ygorvaz said:
What I'm gonna tell you now may be related to what what is happening with your device or not. It was my problem, so if it's not this I don't know what can be happening.
First, the galaxy nexus can downvote it's processors when it's too hot, although it's probably not that, just keep that in mind.
Anyway, go to settings - apps then "running apps" and check the used and free ram. If you have high RAM usage (like, 600 mbs being used) than this is probably the problem. While you're in the game, your gnexus will try to clean RAM for it, but since your gnexus is already out of RAM, it will force close background app's and services, but since those are required to run all the time, all that's going to happen is that they will keep being restarted, causing lag in the apps that are running.
To check if this is the problem, just check how much free ram you have free. If it's too low, open a game (even temple run 2 or sub way surfers will do), then when the game starts, go back to settings-app-running apps and check for things restarting.
If this is the problem, then you need to see what is the apps that are consuming all your RAM (although it can be android itself, just keep reading).
Just check what apps are in the running part of the "running apps". If you have a lot of apps running, then you can try freezing some of them or unnistalling the ones that consume more RAM. BUT! it may be that there's just too much RAM being consumed even though you have few apps running, in this case, the problem is android itself.
I don't know if this happens to android 4.3 itself, the gnexus's version of it or if it's some app causing it, but there's a memory leak that will eventually consume all your RAM. I'll use my case as an exemple: I have some common apps running on background (facebook, messenger, whatsapp, airdroid, 3d watchdog). If everything is normal, my "used RAM" keeps aroung 430mb~. Leaving almost 200mb~ free for apps to use. But after some days using my phone, the used ram will grow to 500, then 550, then 600mb, eventually to 630mbs.
Check if this is happening to you. To check, simply reboot your device, then when it boots, check how your RAM is being used.
If it was normal before the reboot (around 500mb, probably even less) and stay this way after the reboot, then your problem is another one, then I can't help you.
If your RAM was high and after the reboot it's still high, check your running apps.
If it's high but after the reboot it's back to normal, then you just "solved" your problem. Just keep rebooting daily.
If this was your problem, then enjoy your phone. If it's not, you can try checking some other things like the I/O speed (which was solved in android 4.3. Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971852&highlight=trim ).
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When I checked, I had about 300-400 megabytes of ram being used. Thank you for the info and the effort though. It has a dual core processor, it should be able to run well.

I figuare out the problem of the game lag, the CPU temperature limt!
If you're using custom kernel, set the limit to 74, and u will find out it smoothly on game play, plus if you of the gpu to 384, its almost lag free, but frame drop is also here coz the gpu power.

Does this work on stock kernel also? Last time i had custom kernel, lots of screen problems.

speedsolve said:
Does this work on stock kernel also? Last time i had custom kernel, lots of screen problems.
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Nope, flash leankernel, wipe cacje and dalvik cache, install trickster mod, and adjust the settings.
Quite less you can do with stock kernel.

ok i have lean kernel but where do i change the setting in the franco kernel app

speedsolve said:
ok i have lean kernel but where do i change the setting in the franco kernel app
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You need to use trickster mod not Franco app. The Franco app is optimized for the Franco kernel.
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OK I installed trickster but every time I try to change a setting, after a reboot, it goes back to stock. What now
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mrgnex said:
You need to use trickster mod not Franco app. The Franco app is optimized for the Franco kernel.
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FKU also incorporates LeanKernel Updater so why isn't it optimized
And just to add that the above trick of disabling thermal throttling works nicely for me. I always wondered about why playing PPSSPP produces random lag - setting the governor to "performance" won't help a bit - and FKU saved my ass!
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HTC 10 varying from 50-60 fps

In every game I have played its lagged, I decided to download some apps that showed fps and it shows applications keep varying from 60fps, then seemingly becoming locked at 50 moments later. Can anyone download an app called fps test, it has an orange circle and report back please.

This.is.normal!
It cannot be a locked 60 fps framerate. This is Android we are talking about, not iOS.

Its literally not normal though, I have a galaxy s6 and it is locked to a solid 60fps, its not an intensive app, its literally a 2d bouncing ball

Ultimately I decided that I was very dissatisfied with the performance of the HTC 10 due to this, so it's going back for a refund.

50fps FIX HERE!
Kudos to @ivicask , this issue is fixed in the latest PnP mod test build:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68138407&postcount=356
Remember to select Performance Profile in aroma installer.
And remember to give ivicask a thanks click!
Problem solved.

It wasn't a particular game, it was any game I played. Especially noticeable in 2D games. I've never had this problem on the galaxy s6 or any other phone for that matter. If you want to check for me to see if its the same on all htc 10s, then download an app called fps test, it has an orange circle icon and report back what it says.

andy010101 said:
It wasn't a particular game, it was any game I played. Especially noticeable in 2D games. I've never had this problem on the galaxy s6 or any other phone for that matter. If you want to check for me to see if its the same on all htc 10s, then download an app called fps test, it has an orange circle icon and report back what it says.
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It was about 57-58 at start or with touch screen interaction(hold your finger on the screen). If you leave it be it will be throttled down to 50fps, seemingly a power saving feature(or a bug).

TeroZ said:
It was about 57-58 at start or with touch screen interaction(hold your finger on the screen). If you leave it be it will be throttled down to 50fps, seemingly a power saving feature(or a bug).
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It seems like a very annoying power saving feature if that is truly what it is, it seems to accomplish making things feel less fluid.

Fps test app is clearly not optimised for HTC 10. Download 3DMark for more accurate results. Run on your S6 and HTC10, you'll soon leave your S6 behind. Or use your S6 to play games on the go and buy a PC/console for proper gaming.

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It seems like a very annoying power saving feature if that is truly what it is, it seems to accomplish making things feel less fluid.
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I've just found out that enabling high performance mode in developer options can lift the 50fps lock. Give it a try
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Fps test app is clearly not optimised for HTC 10. Download 3DMark for more accurate results. Run on your S6 and HTC10, you'll soon leave your S6 behind. Or use your S6 to play games on the go and buy a PC/console for proper gaming.
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This is not the case I'm afraid. It seems that HTC used fps lock to preserve battery life. On the contrary, HTC "optimized" for famous benchmarks like 3dmarks by loosing throttling policies.
I consider locking GPU at 50fps on a 60hz refresh rate screen is kind of a bad move.

You might need to look at CleanSlate kernel, if you are rooted You will be amazed.

Thank you for your response, yeah enabling high performance mode does seem to remove the 50fps however there are still some stutters (none of gs6 although running custom rom), and high performance mode will eat my battery. Don't suppose you know if any custom roms fix this issue?

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You might need to look at CleanSlate kernel, if you are rooted You will be amazed.
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If you root a htc and install the custom kernel, is there a way to return to stock without htc knowing that it has been rooted or whatever?

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If you root a htc and install the custom kernel, is there a way to return to stock without htc knowing that it has been rooted or whatever?
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I think if you have s-off then it's possible

andy010101 said:
If you root a htc and install the custom kernel, is there a way to return to stock without htc knowing that it has been rooted or whatever?
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They cannot discover that you have rooted your phone when you return fully to stock. But they can see that your bootloader was unlocked. You can always lock it, but it wont say "locked", it will say "relocked". That shouldnt be a problem for warranty purposes imo.

I have the same problem.my HTC 10 most of the time locked at 50 fps(when I release finger from screen) and it is very unusual in flagships such as gs7 or gs6.
Maybe HTC give an update to solve this issue
I also tried high performance option but it takes a lot of battery charge.
Is there anyone else have this problem?any suggestion? I don't wanna root my device for guarantee purposes
Someone please report this issue to HTC support.

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They cannot discover that you have rooted your phone when you return fully to stock. But they can see that your bootloader was unlocked. You can always lock it, but it wont say "locked", it will say "relocked". That shouldnt be a problem for warranty purposes imo.
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You can even get the 'locked' flag if you're S-OFF

andy010101 said:
Thank you for your response, yeah enabling high performance mode does seem to remove the 50fps however there are still some stutters (none of gs6 although running custom rom), and high performance mode will eat my battery. Don't suppose you know if any custom roms fix this issue?
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You can disable PnPMgr if you don't want to use high performance mode to achieve the same effect. PnPMgr is HTC's proprietary power manager, disabling it may have an impact on battery life as well but looking at stats the difference isn't that huge in my case.
To disable pnpmgr, you'll need root and download a free app called "Kernel Toolkit". In the app there's a switch called "Pnpmgr" under the tab "Power", disable it.

@andy010101
long breath, here goes
HTC unlike all the previous, really put a leash on the HTC 10 SoC, remember "powerbotics" in their marketing? well it really means is Snapdragon 820 cripple, yet non of the s820 devices like G5/Mi5/OP3 suffer from this, HTC probably did this to squeeze some juice out of battery but don't we have powersaver modes for this? so why cheat...
this is whats going on stock HTC 10:
- The fourth BIG core, out of the two faster cores (which also benefit from bigger cache) will be disabled (via task migration) once battery is around 35c (which is the nominal operation temp anyway) so most of the time unless dead cold the device will be running without one of the big kryo cores, this is noticable in a multithreaded game like Dead Effect 2 which suddenly drops from 60fps range to 30 in 5 minutes
- The GPU governor is a lot more tolerant than it is on the OP3/G5/Mi5 s820 devices, its noticable in GPU loving game like Skyforce where it refuses to ramp up the GPU clocks and so the games runs at 30fps when it should be 60, also Suicide squad high graphics mode is another example
- HTC also locks to 50fps when they user is not interacting, which is discussed and sorted on this page, its a unique issue visible in games like Smash hit or games with offscreen controls
solutions for performance:
- Unlock, flash TWRP, flash EX kernel, the settings in EX are already tweaked to fix the CPU and GPU problems
- Even more you can flash the PNP mod and select performance profile (also i worked with the dev on this) to further unleash your 10 and even improve things like multitasking and standby battery life
just note if you decide to flash both EX and the mod you can set EX kernel min performance level to 0 in order for the pnp mod to take over (discussed here), otherwise without the pnp mod you need to leave EX min performance at the default 60
CleanSlate kernel is said to have the same fixes as well
happy modding the difference is day versus night in performance, Dead Effect 2, Skyforce and Suicide squad will all run in sweet 60 up to 30 minutes without a blink
If you are a stock only user and don't like what you just heard, then by all means take it to HTC, because they really deserve a nuke for this ****

HERE's THE FIX!
50fps FIX HERE!
Kudos to @ivicask :good: , this issue is fixed in the latest PnP mod test build:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68138407&postcount=356
Remember to select Performance Profile in aroma installer.
And remember to give ivicask a thanks click!

[QUESTION] Apps being killed

Hello.
I got a Mi A2 Lite a few days ago, is my first Android One. My model have 3Gb of RAM.
I'm facing the following problem:
Let's say I'm playing Lords Mobile (the only game I play). Then, I receive a message on WhatsApp. I go there and reply. I then go to Facebook and/or Chrome to check something, and want to go back to Lords Mobile. The game was pulled out from memory, and need to reload again from zero. Same with Chrome, it shows all my tabs I had opened, but is surelly reloading again from zero. Is like the "clear all" of 'recent apps' on some other phones.
I think 3Gb of RAM is enough to handle these apps, don't? I don't have too much apps installed, and the memory use is about 2Gb. I don't know if this behavior is native, by the way. Another example: if I go to sleep just after play, when I go to game again in the morning, the game reload from zero.
Is this normal? Any way to make this model handle the memory in a better way, if is the case?
My device is on Pie, July security patch. No root.
Thanks in advice

It gets better over time. There is "AI" that figures out what to keep in memory.
But in general, pie seems to be worse than previous releases at keeping things in memory, even when memory is not full.

a1291762 said:
It gets better over time. There is "AI" that figures out what to keep in memory.
But in general, pie seems to be worse than previous releases at keeping things in memory, even when memory is not full.
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Thanks.
Is there a way to get rid of AI, or set an app to be excluded from this?

romulocarlos said:
Is there a way to get rid of AI, or set an app to be excluded from this?
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Not that anyone seems to know. Maybe custom ROMs help?
I just used my phone like normal and noticed that it got better at not unloading apps that I came back to regularly.
You can try to force Android Go mode, since it's designed for really small RAM use but I tried it and didn't like it (changes some things).

a1291762 said:
Not that anyone seems to know. Maybe custom ROMs help?
I just used my phone like normal and noticed that it got better at not unloading apps that I came back to regularly.
You can try to force Android Go mode, since it's designed for really small RAM use but I tried it and didn't like it (changes some things).
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Thank you. I don't go for Android Go, seems worse. lol
Any other suggestions will be welcome.

It's not AI, it's the Kernel's scheduler profile, and Xiaomi is famous for tuning it with an aggressive policy towards keeping as much RAM available as possible. The only way to improve it is by installing a custom kernel.

slimshady76 said:
It's not AI, it's the Kernel's scheduler profile, and Xiaomi is famous for tuning it with an aggressive policy towards keeping as much RAM available as possible. The only way to improve it is by installing a custom kernel.
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Well, custom kernel and ROMs means unlocking bootloader... I can't do this for now. But, anyway, thanks!

3 gigs of ram is barely enough for pie. On the 4 gig version I have barely 1 gig free at idle. But mostly, the app kill is done by a crappy A.I. system that does some battery optimization.

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3 gigs of ram is barely enough for pie. On the 4 gig version I have barely 1 gig free at idle. But mostly, the app kill is done by a crappy A.I. system that does some battery optimization.
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Well, taking in note what @slimshady76 wrote above, maybe the "Butterfly for daisy" will be a good deal. But I can't do it now.

I just made a test on last 2 days.
I uninstalled any optional app on phone I downloaded, and disabled a lot of system apps. Lords Mobile won't unload from memory when switching and/or when I sleep and back to game at morning.
So, is a lack of memory, but I still thinking 3Gb is enough to handle it. When 10.0.12.0 comes available to download, I'll try Butterfly kernel.