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For example, people would say Caulk's ROM is fast and stable. what effect does it mean in real world usage?
I'm on the stock EK02, only rooted. I removed all the bloatware, CIQ, processes known to eat up battery, and the phone seems reasonably fast already and I'm getting great battery life. Browsing the internet, viewing videos, running live wallpapers, and playing games doesn't slow this phone at all. Even when I'm updating a bunch of apps in the background, the phone still feels snappy. I'm wondering, how much faster can this phone be if I flash a custom ROM?
Not much lag when transitioning from one screen to another is one example of fast. Stable meaning it doesn't mess up much
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Well most of these roms are i guess streamlined for example StrongSteve's rom is odexed which is faster then deodex right off the bat. He also optimized the png's for the files in the rom (makes loading faster...almost,if not already, instant). Calkulin's rom is very nice too along with Blazer rom. Then they also come with baked in kernals with speed tweaks and overclocking goodness. But to be 100% honest its all up to how you use your phone and what you want it to do. I suggest making a nandroid backup and then testing each rom out for a few days. And if you dont like any then fully restore your backup and youre back to where you were. Gl and have fun flashing. =D
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Well most of these roms are i guess streamlined for example StrongSteve's rom is odexed which is faster then deodex right off the bat. He also optimized the png's for the files in the rom (makes loading faster...almost,if not already, instant). Calkulin's rom is very nice too along with Blazer rom. Then they also come with baked in kernals with speed tweaks and overclocking goodness. But to be 100% honest its all up to how you use your phone and what you want it to do. I suggest making a nandroid backup and then testing each rom out for a few days. And if you dont like any then fully restore your backup and youre back to where you were. Gl and have fun flashing. =D
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Can't say it any better than that!
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For example, people would say Caulk's ROM is fast and stable. what effect does it mean in real world usage?
I'm on the stock EK02, only rooted. I removed all the bloatware, CIQ, processes known to eat up battery, and the phone seems reasonably fast already and I'm getting great battery life. Browsing the internet, viewing videos, running live wallpapers, and playing games doesn't slow this phone at all. Even when I'm updating a bunch of apps in the background, the phone still feels snappy. I'm wondering, how much faster can this phone be if I flash a custom ROM?
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Honestly, MOST of the speed tweaks only are detectable in benchmark tests, not real-world operation. You might notice an increase in app installation speeds, or app execution speeds. Somebody below mention screen transitions... I use Launcher Pro, so I've never had any transition issues.
As you said, stock-out-of-the-box, nothing really slows this phone down that a *normal* user would ever detect.
That's not to say there aren't true phone geeks out there that search for things that will stress the phone and will notice...
Just for fun.
Do you have a custom or stock ROM on your Galaxy Nexus?
Custom .switching between euroskanks cm9 and aokp the whole time
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Running AOKP M5, gives more option of customizing.
Stock ROM is fine too, if you don't need to customize.
Custom ofcourse. Now liquid linaro 1.5rc2, tomorrow maybe something else.
Custom of course.
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Custom!!!
Stock is good. But once you try the custom ROM... you don't want ever go back to stock. Really. You will miss so many handy stuff in stock ROM which is pretty standard in all custom ROMs. For instance:
- Long press back button kills the app.
- Or toggles in notification area
etc.
Currently:
Slim ICS ROM.
CM9 is OK. But it's not Slim ICS
AOKP is very similar to Slim (almost the same). But not as stable and slim as Slim ICS
So.. Slim ICS is the only option for me. All the other ROMs.. well.. good luck with all the other
Idk even why Google make stock so slow and I hated the gradient effect. Google should hire these custom rom devs. They really have skills and talents. After using custom I can't go to that slow, laggy stock rom....
Loving the rascream + trinity 65 stable and cid boot animation
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It's funny that all the comments so far say custom roms, yet the poll result says otherwise. My guess is that people using stock rom have absolutely no problem with it and feel no need to "brag" about how good/stable their rom is
Edit: Yes, I voted stock rom.
Im always rooted and ROMed within the hour of getting my phone. So custom.
custom, running Eclipse 1.7.1. Definitely recommend it
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Right now running custom (CM9) but would have no issue's with just using Stock rooted. Google does a good job putting out stable code that works well. I just like having a couple extra features that CM9 adds.
A kernel is a must though, although stock ROM is good the kernel they push out is obviously not very well optimized.
My Gnex and my Xoom are both bone stock, unrooted, locked bootloaders, the whole nine yards. I know how to root, I know how to flash custom ROMs, and once I learned, my curiosity was satisfied. The custom stuff just has way too many tweaks, customizations, etc. The motto of AOSP and kernel developers alike seems to be to include everything and the kitchen sink. That may work for some, but not for me. I don't want to have to think about it all.
I buy my devices to use them productively day in and day out, rather than to **** around with them constantly haha! Having root access doesn't give me any abilities that I need to achieve that purpose, nor do custom ROMs and kernels give me anything the stock ROM doesn't give me for achieving that purpose.
In the end, the stock ROM is fast, stable, clean, and doesn't include all the extras that I don't need, want, or want to think about. Some have asked me "Well then if you don't mess with them at all or don't develop with them, why do you even buy Google experience devices?" The answer to that question is simple...I want the plain vanilla stock Android experience and the latest Android versions. My interest goes no further than that.
I subscribe to the design and UI philosophy of "less is more", and within that parameter, the stock Android experience delivers in spades. It gives me everything I need and nothing I don't.
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My Gnex and my Xoom are both bone stock, unrooted, locked bootloaders, the whole nine yards. I know how to root, I know how to flash custom ROMs, and once I learned, my curiosity was satisfied. The custom stuff just has way too many tweaks, customizations, etc. The motto of AOSP and kernel developers alike seems to be to include everything and the kitchen sink. That may work for some, but not for me. I don't want to have to think about it all.
I buy my devices to use them productively day in and day out, rather than to **** around with them constantly haha! Having root access doesn't give me any abilities that I need to achieve that purpose, nor do custom ROMs and kernels give me anything the stock ROM doesn't give me for achieving that purpose.
In the end, the stock ROM is fast, stable, clean, and doesn't include all the extras that I don't need, want, or want to think about. Some have asked me "Well then if you don't mess with them at all or don't develop with them, why do you even buy Google experience devices?" The answer to that question is simple...I want the plain vanilla stock Android experience and the latest Android versions. My interest goes no further than that.
I subscribe to the design and UI philosophy of "less is more", and within that parameter, the stock Android experience delivers in spades. It gives me everything I need and nothing I don't.
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This has been my school of thought with the Galaxy Nexus, as well. I did unlock the bootloader straight away, just in case I wanted to try custom ROMs and go back to stock. I haven't had that itch yet though.
I'm not in anyway knocking custom ROMs (I've happily used them on every previous device), I do feel though they are the "scenic route" for this particular phone.
Ran stock + root for the first few months until curiosity got the better of me and I installed CM9 a few days ago. Mostly all good so far apart from a problem with Google Music stuttering occasionally (accompanied by a nice screeching sound ) for no apparent reason.
Thinking of trying Slim ICS next, or I might stick with CM9 depending on how much the stuttering problem annoys me.
I use the stock ROM. I personally don't use many of the customization in other ROMs. And for aesthetics, I don't need UI customizations -- I don't really care how the UI looks. (I was fine with Froyo's UI )
Root is required for me, as I use apps that need it (such as Quick Boot, which allows you to reboot your device without turning it off and back on again, and Market Enabler, which allows us non-Americans access U.S.-only apps).
As for the bootloader, I firmly believe in unlocking (I unlocked it even before booting Android for the first time), as for me, the benefits out-weigh the negative: I like being able to recovery files (e.g., pictures before they got synced to the cloud) on my device in case it crashes and can't boot, and I like being able to back up my setup so that in case anything happens, I can always go back to it -- both of which can not easily be done if your bootloader is locked. There are many more benefits as well.
Stock ROMs are slow and sometimes unresponsive. That is inevitable even for the Galaxy Nexus.
Custom ROMs are far more tweaked and optimized. Custom ROMs, though, are not necessarily better, since what's best is user-defined. We all have our needs and as long as we're satisfied with what we have, we do just fine.
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Root is required for me, as I use apps that need it (such as Quick Boot, which allows you to reboot your device without turning it off and back on again, and Market Enabler, which allows us non-Americans access U.S.-only apps).
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Quick boot? That sounds like an app that only reboots/reloads the system and not the kernel, correct? (i.e. full boot) What market enabler app works perfectly for ICS?
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As for the bootloader, I firmly believe in unlocking (I unlocked it even before booting Android for the first time), as for me, the benefits out-weigh the negative: I like being able to recovery files (e.g., pictures before they got synced to the cloud) on my device in case it crashes and can't boot, and I like being able to back up my setup so that in case anything happens, I can always go back to it -- both of which can not easily be done if your bootloader is locked. There are many more benefits as well.
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Besides, on a phone like the Galaxy Nexus, relocking it is dead easy.
I use BAMF paradigm. Its awesome. No other rom is as stable. Also love the quick settings.
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Using Black Ice... started with LiquidSmooth and really liked it (love having profiles so that I can set a "Night" mode in which only my phone will ring and everything else is customized to either just vibrate or just notify by the LED). I then went to AOKP and tried Gummy briefly but neither had profiles. Found Black Ice which is a modified AOKP and havent looked back since. Aside from the nice White on Black scheme it has profiles and has the option for the weather in the notification page.
Chaotic Peace said:
custom, running Eclipse 1.7.1. Definitely recommend it
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Was running it on my razor. How is the performance compared to cm9, aokp, gummy?
I can't live without my AOKP!
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I never really got the point of rooting. I mean I have all that I need on jellybean anyways. I don't really need more customization.
Stock Jellybean and Project Butter VS. CNA 3.5.0 and Franco Kernel?
Does it actually make the phone faster? cuz I dont think my phone with stock jellybean has ever lagged
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I never really got the point of rooting. I mean I have all that I need on jellybean anyways. I don't really need more customization.
Stock Jellybean and Project Butter VS. CNA 3.5.0 and Franco Kernel?
Does it actually make the phone faster? cuz I dont think my phone with stock jellybean has ever lagged
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Then dont root lol I root because I use titanium backup, love flashing ROM's currently cm10 <3, custom kernels ftw (the options they offer are great! yes Franco im talking about you)
Plus with custom ROM's some allow theming so you can make your phone exacly how you want it to be. If stock is how you want it to be then stay on it and enjoy Android Jelly bean
Personally, its the little things that make it worthwhile. Things you never realize make a different until you have them such as:
Calender on lock screen
smaller Nav bar height
Custom app icons
Lock screen wallpaper
Skip music track with volume buttons
App/data backup and restore
Etc
Might not sound like much but you find them hard to live without after a while.
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A few good reasons on my own:
1) Titanium Backup
2) AdFree: no ads at all in my phone. EVER. Not only because it's annoying but also because it consumes more battery
3) Undervolt
It's a personal choice... rooting allows you access to the internal system to make mods and changes to system files... but it also means more chances of screwing things up if you do something wrong (you can always restore though)... so apps require root access to do things which aren't allowed by default in Android... like backup apps, change host files...
Unlike commonly noted, it has nothing to do with custom ROMs... that requires you to unlock your bootloader... yes, most custom ROMs come with root capabilities, but with ROMs like CM10, you have to option of enabling & disabling root whenever you want...
Rooting opens up other possibilities such as ad-blocking. That's my favorite benefit. There's also free wifi tethering and with most custom ROMs, users can apply themes.
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I never really got the point of rooting. I mean I have all that I need on jellybean anyways. I don't really need more customization.
Stock Jellybean and Project Butter VS. CNA 3.5.0 and Franco Kernel?
Does it actually make the phone faster? cuz I dont think my phone with stock jellybean has ever lagged
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Rooting opens up many doors. Battery savings, faster phone, better quality photos/video, tweaks to the way everything looks etc basically you can modify every aspect of your phone to your liking
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Rooting opens up other possibilities such as ad-blocking. That's my favorite benefit. There's also free wifi tethering and with most custom ROMs, users can apply themes.
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What Ads? i never get any ads.
Secondly, backup is done by google sync as well.
Wifi tethering? you mean data hotspot? if so, jellybean already has that feature built in
Everyone has their reasons. I unlock and root because I can add little bits of functionality that help me in daily use. In order of personal priority:
1) I run stock JB because it's awesome but the kernel I run allows for a no compromise in speed yet better daily use battery life combo - 4.5 to 5 hrs screen on time, and lag free even when multi tasking a lot, can't get that with stock on a standard battery, I've tried
2) I like the stock experience but I like a couple of simple mods to increase functionality like a t9 dialer, battery percent and louder sound mod (because I use the speaker phone a lot in my work calls and stock is simply not loud enough)
3) Several apps have powerful functions that need root access - For e.g. I use Tasker because it makes my phone actually work like a smartphone and helps automate things so I don't have to think about them, like changing my phone profile to vibrate only when I walk into a movie theatre or turning off the slide/pin lock when I'm at home/work and turning it on again when I'm out, on its own.
4) I'm not big on customization like changing the navbar colours etc but if I was, a rooted phone let's you customize to your hearts content.
to be in complete control of my device. for that you need superuser privledges, same as administrative privledges on a windows machine.
Can't forget about improving battery life :good:
adfree. battery savings with custom kernels. root explorer = awesomeness. being able to carve unnecessary junk out of system folders. volume boosters.
there are many reasons. it's not for everybody, but it certainly is for me.
Well my phone is nothing more than a toy for me don't use it for work nor anything like that . Hell I hardly make calls . I root for the fact I can and I like to see what I can do to this thing .
Don't know what half this stuff means but if I don't like the effects I just change ROMs ex.
I really good at following directions and have yet to brick a phone .
Oooo and because I hate iPhone .
"JB:CM10:HYBRD"
"ParanoidAndroid. 2.14"
because stock colors look like crap. white looks yellowish
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I rooted to ad away and roam control
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It is easier to stay stock when you have a shiny new os installed. If you were stuck with a phone that was running 2.3 it suddenly becomes much more appealing.
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AdAway.
ChickenSwagger said:
I never really got the point of rooting. I mean I have all that I need on jellybean anyways. I don't really need more customization.
Stock Jellybean and Project Butter VS. CNA 3.5.0 and Franco Kernel?
Does it actually make the phone faster? cuz I dont think my phone with stock jellybean has ever lagged
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I haven't rooted my Galaxy Nexus either, even after rooting and ROMing my previous phones. No shame in that.
It is a Nexus. Its sole purpose of existence is to be rooted.
Amen.
My first device I rooted was a windows phone, don't recall the name now but then went onto the Eris and then the Nook. Had my Nexus for a half year before I felt the need to root it and mostly I root to have control over the look and feel. I enjoy the customizing as well as trying out the various different ROMs out there. It also makes for great dinner conversations with my boys (all in their mid-twentys') as we debated who has the best ROM and what developers are doing what. :silly:
I agree rooting isn't for everyone and no one should feel they have to...
I have upgraded stock 4.3 device in my note 2 twice but i have noticed that its actually worse than before because it take 48 to 50 percent RAM when no applications are running in the background. System also take more space in internal memory. Gallery is looking bad as compare to 4.1.2. You get many security message and apps get forced closed..You can only pull down notification bars by dragging it from center and before you can pull it down by dragging from top corners as well. You also had all setting in one page before unlike in 4.3 where they divided system setting in 4 parts
The only improvement i found was the move to SD feature which was missing before, gear watch support is useless for anyone who don't have this watch so how is your experience and what are the improvement you noticed in 4.3 update which appeared after so long time but did not bring much improvement
Your question is not clear enough. Better or worse in comparisin to which rom??
Well, it depends on which features you want.
I am on cyanogenmod 10.2 because they have some cool stuff inside....
Some stock features i miss are the easy share via wifi-direct and the calendar.
But brings the stock 4.3 the new 'KNOX' security made by samsung?
If it is true, then you will loose your unsafed date if you root your device.
This is the main reason why i have changed to the Cyanogenmod.
But if you want to keep the touchwiz and the samsung features, look for a rom based on touchwiz
I am on Criskelo 4.3 and even though I am not fan of custom ROMs and prefer to have stock rooted ROM and then modify it with Xposed, I must say that 4.3 (and Criskelo) is just great. I had it for like 6-7 days, of which 2 days I was installing/restoring apps and had to reboot several times, but last 5 days I didn't reboot it and it has been working like a clockwork. The battery life is roughly the same, but it does feel a lot smoother. And I am NOT saying this after flashing clean ROM, but after restoring all of my +400 apps. So I don't want to advertize here, but I am 100% satisfied so far and for me 4.3 is better in terms of performance than 4.1.2.
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I have upgraded stock 4.3 device in my note 2 twice but i have noticed that its actually worse than before because it take 48 to 50 percent RAM when no applications are running in the background. System also take more space in internal memory. Gallery is looking bad as compare to 4.1.2. You get many security message and apps get forced closed..You can only pull down notification bars by dragging it from center and before you can pull it down by dragging from top corners as well. You also had all setting in one page before unlike in 4.3 where they divided system setting in 4 parts
The only improvement i found was the move to SD feature which was missing before, gear watch support is useless for anyone who don't have this watch so how is your experience and what are the improvement you noticed in 4.3 update which appeared after so long time but did not bring much improvement
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There is one more thing which make N7100XXUEMK4 or later worse - the KNOX Bootloader (or KNOX Warranty Bit in Odin Mode). If you're trying to root the device, the KNOX Warranty changes to 1, which means you will lose your warranty FOREVER. Even Samsung says the warranty bit can't be zero-ed. It changes to 1 when you are:
1. Trying to root,
2. Downgrading to previous version without KNOX Bootloader.
Hope this would help you.
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Device that I'm using right now: Samsung GALAXY Note II International N7100
Firmware: Latest N7100XXUEMK4 with KNOX Bootloader *NO!!!, somebody please help me remove this idiot BL*
Recovery: CWMR Touch v6
Root: Hell yeah, of course!
obazda said:
Your question is not clear enough. Better or worse in comparisin to which rom??
Well, it depends on which features you want.
I am on cyanogenmod 10.2 because they have some cool stuff inside....
Some stock features i miss are the easy share via wifi-direct and the calendar.
But brings the stock 4.3 the new 'KNOX' security made by samsung?
If it is true, then you will loose your unsafed date if you root your device.
This is the main reason why i have changed to the Cyanogenmod.
But if you want to keep the touchwiz and the samsung features, look for a rom based on touchwiz
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Well I was comparing official stock 4.3 TW ROM with previous stock 4.1.2 TW. This official update suppose to bring more improvement but I felt its opposite as its less stable than before
How is battery life of CM/AOSP ROM compare to TW?
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This is my battery life with cm 10.2- 20131216-nightly
(Note 2/N7100)
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This is my battery life with cm 10.2- 20131216-nightly
(Note 2/N7100)
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I get 8 hour screen on time after heavy 3g/hspd data usage with display consume 70 percent battery and its on stock 4.1.2
And also how much RAM your system consume when no applications are running after killimg apps in task killer ?
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It is not such easy as you may think... First i habe some other apps which restarts instantly,
and second - if you just compare the Roms by their battery life... Than i would commend for example the RevolutionHD TW based Rom which has a Vetter battery life (i've never used it, but they advertise with this). I thinkbthey made the Samsung release a bit Mord stable , too
I think that the ressources which our phones provide are enough, so we can choose a Rom with the features we want to use. In cm for example they have released a secure SMS encoding -> WhisperPush.
It is like everyone sais... It depends in your requirements...
When I update my phone because im rooted I always go into recovery mode and format internal sd card and update that way you dont get all left over files from previous version always best to do fresh update after you have backed up all you files
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I get 8 hour screen on time after heavy 3g/hspd data usage with display consume 70 percent battery and its on stock 4.1.2
And also how much RAM your system consume when no applications are running after killimg apps in task killer ?
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High RAM usage is not a bad thing. The system preloads some of the apps that you may frequently use, and when they are loaded to the RAM, you can open them faster.
You can also disable some of the apps that come with your stock 4.3 by opening the app details from Apps list.
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AzureV said:
High RAM usage is not a bad thing. The system preloads some of the apps that you may frequently use, and when they are loaded to the RAM, you can open them faster.
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I guess people just like to buy phones with 2Gb of RAM and have 1.5Gb FREE sitting there doing nothing - You won't convice them not to worry about RAM, they don't seem to realize RAM is there to be used....
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I guess people just like to buy phones with 2Gb of RAM and have 1.5Gb FREE sitting there doing nothing - You won't convice them not to worry about RAM, they don't seem to realize RAM is there to be used....
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MORE free RAM make multitasking faster and smoother otherwise why did they upgraded RAM from 512 MB to 1/2/3 GB..if you are using 95 percent of your RAM then it can slow down your device and tahstwhy we have task killer and software which release RAM
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On the contrary - if more RAM is used that means system is using it to speed things up Task killers are not doing anything, if they did - Google would include one in Android. I now use Cirskelo 4.3 and my RAM usage is higher than on 4.1.2 stock. But ROM is faster. Noticably. How would you explain that?
task killer are garbage..the apps you kill will automatically start itself back...and that will wasting your battery juice.
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On the contrary - if more RAM is used that means system is using it to speed things up Task killers are not doing anything, if they did - Google would include one in Android. I now use Cirskelo 4.3 and my RAM usage is higher than on 4.1.2 stock. But ROM is faster. Noticably. How would you explain that?
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Sorry you are not making any sense. These manufacture are not stupid to come up with 2/3 gb RAM if there is no use of it and what ROM is faster vary person to person. I have found 4.1.2 more stable and faster than all 4.3 ROMS I have tried so far
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Sorry you are not making any sense. These manufacture are not stupid to come up with 2/3 gb RAM if there is no use of it and what ROM is faster vary person to person. I have found 4.1.2 more stable and faster than all 4.3 ROMS I have tried so far
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Well you believe manufacturers are NOT stupid - but you believe Google is stupid in designing Android?
4.3 firmware
Rajaasim1980 said:
I have upgraded stock 4.3 device in my note 2 twice but i have noticed that its actually worse than before because it take 48 to 50 percent RAM when no applications are running in the background. System also take more space in internal memory. Gallery is looking bad as compare to 4.1.2. You get many security message and apps get forced closed..You can only pull down notification bars by dragging it from center and before you can pull it down by dragging from top corners as well. You also had all setting in one page before unlike in 4.3 where they divided system setting in 4 parts
The only improvement i found was the move to SD feature which was missing before, gear watch support is useless for anyone who don't have this watch so how is your experience and what are the improvement you noticed in 4.3 update which appeared after so long time but did not bring much improvement
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I have found the new update to 4.3 outstanding, but...I did have to remove knox and get rid of some bloat. It performs outstanding and I am very pleased. Luckily being a member here, made it easy to research and use the methods supplied by all the pro's here.
When switching between roms always format internal sd card as I have learnt if you dont it doesnt matter if you do a fresh stock rom flash with odin it still leaves files behind hope this helps
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DaveyRepairs said:
When switching between roms always format internal sd card as I have learnt if you dont it doesnt matter if you do a fresh stock rom flash with odin it still leaves files behind hope this helps
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I don't believe you have to format internal SD. If you erase CACHE, that should be enough. I didn't erase Internal SD and flashed 4.3 and everything works just fine. This is time-consuming and totaly unnecessary (to back up everything to a PC and then restore), and what's the point anyway if you're restoring? And if you don't restore, you'd loose all your data. games progress, etc. So I'd suggest first try without - if you have problems, you can always format it.
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I don't believe you have to format internal SD. If you erase CACHE, that should be enough. I didn't erase Internal SD and flashed 4.3 and everything works just fine. This is time-consuming and totaly unnecessary (to back up everything to a PC and then restore), and what's the point anyway if you're restoring? And if you don't restore, you'd loose all your data. games progress, etc. So I'd suggest first try without - if you have problems, you can always format it.
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My phone is 16gb sometimes when I dont format the internal sd I end up with 6gb free but now I end up with 9gb free
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Hi guys,
I am planning to buy the Tab S with the Exynos processor in the Netherlands, but 50% of the people says it lags like hell, and the other 50% says it is really smooth and the best thing you can buy!
I can't decide whether it is good or not ( it has Android L).
Please help me out!
Kind Regards
tarikkert71 said:
Hi guys,
I am planning to buy the Tab S with the Exynos processor in the Netherlands, but 50% of the people says it lags like hell, and the other 50% says it is really smooth and the best thing you can buy!
I can't decide whether it is good or not ( it has Android L).
Please help me out!
Kind Regards
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Your question will not get you a clear answer as you need to match your specific user profile and previous devices with those saying the device is laggy. I do not find my Tab S 10.5 laggy on stock, rooted 5.0.2. I'm not a gamer and mainly use the device for media consumption (reading news, YouTube, Netflix and email), none of which is too taxing. I replaced the stock launcher with Nova Prime launcher and used Titanium Backup to freeze the majority of bloat wear which reduced the start times and memory used. My previous devices are a Nexus 5 phone and a Nexus 10 tablet.
Using this kind of analysis you may be able to determine if this tablet is "laggy" for your personal usage profile.
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Thanks for the reply,
May I ask why you rooted it? Didn't you like the bloatware, or was it kinda not responsive?
I'm not sure where and when this lag occurs, but I've never experienced it.
However I'm not a gamer.
It doesn't lag in games in my experience. However, IMO it lags when you are switching between apps and launching apps, which is weird because I often use the multiwindow feature and the tablet is clearly capable of running two apps at the same time.
Btw, the reason why some people think it doesn't lag is because lag is a very subjective issue. What I consider lag may be totally acceptable to others.
snapper.fishes said:
It doesn't lag in games in my experience. However, IMO it lags when you are switching between apps and launching apps, which is weird because I often use the multiwindow feature and the tablet is clearly capable of running two apps at the same time.
Btw, the reason why some people think it doesn't lag is because lag is a very subjective issue. What I consider lag may be totally acceptable to others.
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Well I compare it to my htc m8 which is a powerful device in its own right and it compares admirably most of the time.
I think it's mostly down to TouchWiz not the hardware. Just too much bumpf under the hood.
Samsung need to learn that most people don't want all that baggage and to provide a more minimal experience. They can always offer the extras as optional downloads.
However I must say things like Web browsing have improved with lollipop and the stock browser. Its about the smoothest experience of all the available browsers.
ashyx said:
Well I compare it to my htc m8 which is a powerful device in its own right and it compares admirably most of the time.
I think it's mostly down to TouchWiz not the hardware. Just too much bumpf under the hood.
Samsung need to learn that most people don't want all that baggage and to provide a more minimal experience. They can always offer the extras as optional downloads.
However I must say things like Web browsing have improved with lollipop and the stock browser. Its about the smoothest experience of all the available browsers.
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Oh yes. Having used a Nexus 4 I know how smooth stock android can be. Samsung installs way too much crap on their devices, but I like the multi window feature too much to give up touchwiz. Last I heard the multiwindow feature still hasn't been implemented in AOSP Marshmallow.
Stock browser is amazing. I used to use chrome but it lagged like crazy. Not sure how Google can screw up chrome that badly, but then again chrome is a resource hog even on Windows.
NEver be a gamer on tablet, i always use it for media comsumption.
but, yeah, it's kinda laggy because my tablets installed with pre installed apps + full google apps.
And it's kinda lag sometime.
If you have Root, install Kernel Aduitor (free). The only thing you need to change is the Min CPU freq, 250 mhz is pretty slow.
450 or 650 mhz get things snappy.
tarikkert71 said:
Thanks for the reply,
May I ask why you rooted it? Didn't you like the bloatware, or was it kinda not responsive?
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I rooted for a few reasons. Proper device backups with Titanium Backups, superior audio with Viper4Android, Stickmount and immersion mode with GDM Gesture Control plus it's customized gestures. I use those root apps on all my devices.
I froze apps as several were being automatically started at boot time slowing down startup and unnecessarily using memory. I wanted a cleaner experience. The unwanted apps also clutter up your app menu, making it slightly more difficult to find the app you wanted to start. In general I freeze over removing as you cannot use that much of the freed up space except for SuperSU, Viper4Androis and Busybox. There are a few more but far less than the space freed by removing bloat wear.
I also dark themed TW settings and the notification bar as I cannot stand white backgrounds with black text but that was secondary to the root reasons listed above.
Due to the ability to root without tripping KNOX I could root without loosing my warranty. Without that I would have waited for a year until the warranty expired.
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steamrollerpark said:
If you have Root, install Kernel Aduitor (free). The only thing you need to change is the Min CPU freq, 250 mhz is pretty slow.
450 or 650 mhz get things snappy.
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Does that work on the stock kernel if you are rooted?
tarikkert71 said:
Hi guys,
I am planning to buy the Tab S with the Exynos processor in the Netherlands, but 50% of the people says it lags like hell, and the other 50% says it is really smooth and the best thing you can buy!
I can't decide whether it is good or not ( it has Android L).
Please help me out!
Kind Regards
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For what it's worth, b4 I rooted I used Package Disabler pro and disabled 104 different services/packages. It made a huge difference and everything worked just fine. But, I got the rooting fever and now I'm even happier with my Tab S.
TiTiB (tweak it 'til it breaks) ¤ Galaxy Tab S | SMT-T700 | klimtwifi ¤ AICP 5.1.1
Yes, running stock here.