Just wondering why most, if not all kernels for this phone have it enabled by default. I understand why it's there for low end devices with very little RAM but it's truly unnecessary for this phone. I'm sure there's the select few out there that might need it but the vast majority don't. Even on a TW ROM I find it difficult to for the RAM into an oom situation, not even a lowmem one. Given the way Android handles memory now it should be difficult.
It's a horrible virus. Setup correctly it may not effect battery life and performance too much but it does nevertheless, and for what? Maybe I'm just being unreasonable but it should honestly be taken out of our kernels or disabled. Not saying it's difficult to click and button to turn it off. It's just a small, dumb thing that gets to me. There seems to be a but of renewed hype over it with the monitoring apps for it and posts about tweaking it. And why the switch to "zRAM" from compcache? Its like calling a Honda an Acura - same difference but with an H made to look like an A and a higher price tag.
Any input on this? Maybe I'm missing something...
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Well, logically speaking, zRAM is simply a fallback. Yes, we have enough space and RAM on the newer phones to technically not need it. But for those ... yeah, nevermind I agree with your sentiments. lol Isn't KK shipped with zRAM enabled as well?
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I think so. Maybe they have a plan and this is step one. A zRAM conspiracy? Lol
I guess it could be there for low end/older devices. Google did state that KK should be able to be ran on those devices and they would definitely need compcache.
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Haha, leave no phone left behind. How beautiful! I almost shed a tear.
But yes, you are absolutely on the mark. A plethora of devices will be running the newer releases and a few are not well equipped. That's where zram kicks in.
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Hi all,
My father recently decided to pick up a s2 and doesn't plan on using it for anything other than calling, texting, and calendar reminders. In fact, he WON'T even have a data plan.
He's coming from a dumb phone that'll give him wonderful battery life so this phone's battery life will be a sort of shock.
I'm wondering what are some ways to ease that battery life.
I've come up with
-custom rom& kernel
Underclocking
CPU sleeper
Autobrightness
2G only
Data off
Sync off
Wifi Bluetooth gps off
Any other tips you guys have? Help is much appreciated.
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I forgot to include freezing bloat.
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Why would he even want an S2 in the first place. If he's never going to use it fully? That's like buying the fastest $3500 gaming PC in the world and never using it. Just curious. Not trying to troll or anything.
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pwner5889 said:
Why would he even want an S2 in the first place. If he's never going to use it fully? That's like buying the fastest $3500 gaming PC in the world and never using it. Just curious. Not trying to troll or anything.
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3000$ PC? Hardly a proper comparison. This phone is nowhere near as fast as people claim it to be.
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3000$ PC? Hardly a proper comparison. This phone is nowhere near as fast as people claim it to be.
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That went way over your head. He wasn't making a literal comparison. Basically saying "why would you pay more for features you aren't going to use."
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I'd like to suggest Darkside v8! That rom is incredibly stable and well developed.
If you want to save a lot more battery, I'd like to suggest SetCPU and just downlock. I doubt your dad would be able to tell an immediate difference between 1.1-1.2 ghz VS. 1.5ghz. Plus, make sure you install CPUspy and BetterBatteryStats to make sure that the phone is actually entering into 'deep sleep' mode.
Well on our carrier tmobile, there's pretty much no such thing as a dumb phone anymore.. Long story short, we got an s2 free through upgrade and no data plan because he doesn't use it. So for the price of free, why not take it? His old phone is acting up and he wanted something slightly more modern.
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Well on our carrier tmobile, there's pretty much no such thing as a dumb phone anymore.. Long story short, we got an s2 free through upgrade and no data plan because he doesn't use it. So for the price of free, why not take it? His old phone is acting up and he wanted something slightly more modern.
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You can't get a discounted smartphone without adding a data plan.
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a93hunt said:
Well on our carrier tmobile, there's pretty much no such thing as a dumb phone anymore.. Long story short, we got an s2 free through upgrade and no data plan because he doesn't use it. So for the price of free, why not take it? His old phone is acting up and he wanted something slightly more modern.
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Sounds EXACTLY like my dad, but we're not upgrading and not getting anything for free so I'm not getting him a new phone, currently he has a old candy bar style Nokia. I won't even give him my old n8 because it's too much for him
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You can't get a discounted smartphone without adding a data plan.
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Til there is a recognize contributor LOL, totally never noticed that.
I have a family plan. My brother's line was up so we upgraded his line (which already has a data plan) to the s2 and we're giving the s2 to my father. My father is simply going to be putting his sim in the s2 (and my brother will be keeping the same mytouch he has at the moment.) Tmobile will not add a data plan and force my father to use one as his line was not the one upgraded.
And this isn't att where data is added to lines automatically
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3000$ PC? Hardly a proper comparison. This phone is nowhere near as fast as people claim it to be.
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That went way over your head. He wasn't making a literal comparison. Basically saying "why would you pay more for features you aren't going to use."
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No, it didn't. That was a bad analogy. Maybe if he was talking an s3 or something but this phone is pretty basic and to the point when it comes to smartphones. And what features are you talking about that he won't take advantage of?? Any phone released In the last 2 years is capable of everything this phone is minus NFC and speed if were talking single core. If anything I would get him a phone of this caliber instead of a crappier android phone that's going to be much harder to deal with. My mother has a cheapo tmo android phone and its hell to use. Crappy touch screen, ect. I think the t989 is a great choice for anyone not looking for all the bells and whistles. Anywho...
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My father is like your father he asked me which phone was better the Driod or the iPhone. And i like looked at him as if he were high or delusional.. I told him none lol.
But yes i agree with the other user who recommended darkside v8. I recommend STOCK or any TouchWiz ROM. As for the comment "paying for extra features when he wont use them" Well if you already have the s2 which is collecting dust why not put it to use? I wouldnt recommend going out and buying an S2 to not use. But if one already has it then what the heck? lol.
As for data, T-Mobile allows any phone to not have a data plan. Im on the value plan, and if i wished, i could get rid of everything but talking minutes.
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That went way over your head. He wasn't making a literal comparison. Basically saying "why would you pay more for features you aren't going to use."
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No, it didn't. That was a bad analogy. Maybe if he was talking an s3 or something but this phone is pretty basic and to the point when it comes to smartphones. And what features are you talking about that he won't take advantage of?? Any phone released In the last 2 years is capable of everything this phone is minus NFC and speed if were talking single core. If anything I would get him a phone of this caliber instead of a crappier android phone that's going to be much harder to deal with. My mother has a cheapo tmo android phone and its hell to use. Crappy touch screen, ect. I think the t989 is a great choice for anyone not looking for all the bells and whistles. Anywho...
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What features am I talking about?
Everything having to do with data..(unless your on Wi-Fi)
And do you mind sharing the "bells and whistles" the s3 has that ours doesn't? It is a SLIGHTLY improved version of the s2 that does all the same things..
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That went way over your head. He wasn't making a literal comparison. Basically saying "why would you pay more for features you aren't going to use."
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No, it didn't. That was a bad analogy. Maybe if he was talking an s3 or something but this phone is pretty basic and to the point when it comes to smartphones. And what features are you talking about that he won't take advantage of?? Any phone released In the last 2 years is capable of everything this phone is minus NFC and speed if were talking single core. If anything I would get him a phone of this caliber instead of a crappier android phone that's going to be much harder to deal with. My mother has a cheapo tmo android phone and its hell to use. Crappy touch screen, ect. I think the t989 is a great choice for anyone not looking for all the bells and whistles. Anywho...
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Ive had several smartphones, notably the Tmobile Comet (Running Froyo FYI), LG Mytouch, and the S2. The S2 is FAR from basic. If you every tried those phones, you will know. As far as battery life, try juice defender. Use the extreme profile, will save you a ton of battery life
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Why would he even want an S2 in the first place. If he's never going to use it fully? That's like buying the fastest $3500 gaming PC in the world and never using it. Just curious. Not trying to troll or anything.
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Funny, is like buying a ferrari and drive 35MPH only lol
To each his own. Everyone is entitled their own opinion.. Not flaming fighting, whatever you guys want to call it.
I'll check out juice defender.
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That went way over your head. He wasn't making a literal comparison. Basically saying "why would you pay more for features you aren't going to use."
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No, it didn't. That was a bad analogy. Maybe if he was talking an s3 or something but this phone is pretty basic and to the point when it comes to smartphones. And what features are you talking about that he won't take advantage of?? Any phone released In the last 2 years is capable of everything this phone is minus NFC and speed if were talking single core. If anything I would get him a phone of this caliber instead of a crappier android phone that's going to be much harder to deal with. My mother has a cheapo tmo android phone and its hell to use. Crappy touch screen, ect. I think the t989 is a great choice for anyone not looking for all the bells and whistles. Anywho...
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S3 is not all that better. S2 is nowhere basic if you know how to use it.
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For ****'s Sake, can someone just answer his question without telling a full grown man how to spend his money?
I love how infatuated with this phone some of you are. Anyone who says the s3 is a slight improvement over this phone is horribly mistaken. I play with my buddies s3 from time to time.. side by side app loading is much faster, gets more FPS while gaming (dead trigger runs smoother on the s3 despite it pushing almost 3 tines the amount of pixels, the 720p screen is much better, the 2gb of ram really comes in handy (have any of you ever noticed how laggy and stuttery the t989 gets when updating apps from the play store? The s3 is completely smooth while updating) the cameras snapshots have better PQ.. everything about the s3 is better. Of all the handsets I've owned I've never seen such infatuation and naivety in its xda forum section. :-/ makes me hurl.
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I'm not one of those that gets 26 hours on a battery. I use the phone a lot! It always gets quite warm. Hasn't really caused any problem that I know of, but anyone know of why?
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It's normal
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I think im the only one who doesnt have the overheat issue
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I read somewhere that one or both of the cores aren't managed efficiently and switch govenors from ondemand to performance which the phone isn't optimized for causing the heat issue. I actually put my phone on performance and it did get hot so I think this may be true, I heard that there was a script or something that fixes it called restore dual core or something like that but I think it was for the international S3 so I don't know if it will work with our devices.
My stock rom also used to make the phone heat up but it's always at the very bottom. Anyone know why that it?
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My phone use to be very warm and then I changed to FrostyICS Rom and now it only a little and none most of the time
Khmer123 said:
My phone use to be very warm and then I changed to FrostyICS Rom and now it only a little and none most of the time
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It's gotta be the name "Frosty"
I'm on stock and it heats up at the bottom only if I've been surfing the net on wifi for a long period of time or when it's charging...and I'm surfing the net
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I figured that the phone heats up due to processor usage.
My guess would be that the processor is located behind the home button, therefore when you're running an intensive task (or doing somethings in general) the processor has to increase the clock speed thus heating the device.
It's really annoying actually, makes my hands sweaty sometimes when holding the phone.
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It's gotta be the name "Frosty"
I'm on stock and it heats up at the bottom only if I've been surfing the net on wifi for a long period of time or when it's charging...and I'm surfing the net
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I think i might know what your problem most of the web browsing dolphin, Firefox.......etc still loading in the background or spending ( maybe just me ) on top of the page even doe you go to the home screen or used different app that why it killing your battery and heat up
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I had this phone heating up on me while I was on stock too, but ever since I switched to AOKP with Lean Kernel the heating has been dramatically reduced for me. And by dramatically reduced I mean it rarely heats up unless I'm doing something up that takes a lot of processing power like a 3D game.
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Everything is supposed to load much faster. It's getting rave reviews in the playstore. Is it really that noticeable or placebo effect?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder
Here's the article i found it from: http://phandroid.com/2013/01/03/see...lag-from-rooted-android-devices-does-it-work/
I have it loaded. It really does make difference. :thumbup:
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Sometimes when I exit an app and go back to home (stock) it takes a moment to load up. Does that help with that? And the app drawer lol
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Sometimes when I exit an app and go back to home (stock) it takes a moment to load up. Does that help with that? And the app drawer lol
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Maybe. I might try the app.
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Give it a try, I promise you will notice a difference.
Holy cow! I was skeptical but gave it a shot to support good devs. I am astonished how much of a difference it made.
Definitely worth the purchase.
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Whoa! I think I just shat myself. This is like project butter on roids. I guess this will hold me over till JB
Also, this should be integrated in future roms.
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Jesus. This thing kicks some serious ass.
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I haven't noticed much of a difference, but I attribute that to the performance and capabilities of this phone. It probably works great with lower end or old phones.
j4g3rb0mb3d said:
I haven't noticed much of a difference, but I attribute that to the performance and capabilities of this phone. It probably works great with lower end or old phones.
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^ this
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O... M... G... This app.... is amazing!
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At first I noticed no difference but I ran a few test like turning animations off and running apps with and without seeder then did the same with animations on and I do notice a slight speed up when opening apps. Not a huge difference because like someone said this phone is already a speed demon, but there is a slight increase, but then again could be placebo lol.
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At first I noticed no difference but I ran a few test like turning animations off and running apps with and without seeder then did the same with animations on and I do notice a slight speed up when opening apps. Not a huge difference because like someone said this phone is already a speed demon, but there is a slight increase, but then again could be placebo lol.
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I feel the same way. I can't really tell if it's making much of a difference cause this phone is already so fast. But I installed it on my nexus 7 as well so we'll see...
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At first I noticed no difference but I ran a few test like turning animations off and running apps with and without seeder then did the same with animations on and I do notice a slight speed up when opening apps. Not a huge difference because like someone said this phone is already a speed demon, but there is a slight increase, but then again could be placebo lol.
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I'm getting smoother transitions which means I practically have jellybean with that app installed that s the biggest difference I've noticed but it still wasn't that big but definitely worth the dollar fifty
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I don't know bout you guys but it does take up more battery, left it over night off the charger when from 64% to 52%
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I don't know bout you guys but it does take up more battery, left it over night off the charger when from 64% to 52%
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Took it off charger at 100% about 45 minutes ago. Haven't done much of anything and down to 91%.
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Ya I noticed it uses a lil more battery as well. Gonna uninstall for now, but I'll be watching its development.
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I posted this on another topic as well that was discussing the seeder app. This is straight from a CM Dev on G+.
" The entropy pool stuff is bull****. The only users of /dev/random are libcrypto (used for cryptographic operations like SSL connections, ssh key generation, and so on), wpa_supplicant/hostapd (to generate WEP/WPA keys while in AP mode), and the libraries that generate random partition IDs when you do an ext2/3/4 format. None of those 3 users are in the path of app execution, so feeding random from urandom does nothing except make random... well... less random"
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I posted this on another topic as well that was discussing the seeder app. This is straight from a CM Dev on G+
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How is this useful? To anyone wondering if it will work or is curious: install the free apk on xda. Try it out. If it helps: great keep using it. If you want, buy the play store version to support the dev. If it doesn't work, good you didn't waste your money now you can go spend your buck and some change on a pack of gum or a soda.
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How is this useful? To anyone wondering if it will work or is curious: install the free apk on xda. Try it out. If it helps: great keep using it. If you want, buy the play store version to support the dev. If it doesn't work, good you didn't waste your money now you can go spend your buck and some change on a pack of gum or a soda.
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I'm sure most people here understand that concept. Were just discussing. And I think it's pretty useful to hear an experienced devs opinion on an app for our phones I'm sure he understands what goes in with our phones better than we do
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032&nocache=1
Worth the plunge? Still not rooted since I don't see the need as of yet...
Seems like it's snappier. Could just be perception but check it out and see.
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I have a very noticeable difference.
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Seeder Entropy Generator is such a cool damned name who cares?
found to be useless
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...rooted-android-phones-proven-useless-2013014/
Thanks T3. I was half tempted to try it.
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Well sorry but it definitely makes my system faster no matter what these other people say. I find for instance that Tapatalk can get hung up quite easily but when I run this mod forums load instantly every time.
So, try it out and see for yourself.
Or instead of using the app (since it murders the battery life) you could just change the min frequency of your CPU to like, 600mhz or higher and it does the same thing as this app
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Or instead of using the app (since it murders the battery life) you could just change the min frequency of your CPU to like, 600mhz or higher and it does the same thing as this app
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No it doesnt do the same thing. I have my cpu set at 1800 performance and this mod clearly makes a difference above and beyond that.
And it may burn battery a bit faster but it doesn't "murder" your battery. I've been heavily using my phone with the mod on for 6 hours and have used about 40% of the battery. Pretty normal burn rate for browsing, texting and watching netflix non stop.
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I am debating the point of deleting vappsi don't use often is they're a benefit of less apps like would make my system faster or is they're no benefit
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0.o
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I am debating the point of deleting vappsi don't use often is they're a benefit of less apps like would make my system faster or is they're no benefit
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I'm sorry but I had to read your post numerous times to understand you. Yes there would be a benefit of less.apps on your phone. That's why people debloat the systems and such. So less apps=less background process=less to load= little faster phone little better battery life (sometimes better battery not always usually just stays the same or hardly noticeable)