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[Q]my ram crosses 318mb/351 mb.all the sounds of my phone disappers

i have a strange problem with w.whenever my ram crosses 318mb/351 mb.all the sounds of my phone disappers.i cant play music,video,no locking and unlocking sounds.i have to restart the phone again.this happens atleast once every day.any thoughts on this?

OK....my best guess is it's the phones way of protecting it's "core" functions. The ram usage has reached a point where there is a danger of failure of its prime functions and it is attempting to divert ram from other non essential services. First thing you've got to do is find out what's eating your ram. There are apps available that can supply this information though I don't know what they're called as I've never had to use them (sorry) Are you using a lot of apps that run in the background to bring you notifications etc? If this is the case and you don't really need the app, delete it....simples.....
There is also a setting in CM9 that allows you to turn off background data if you need to keep the apps......give it a go and see....it might be all you need to do
From my Galaxy W on CM9 and CWM6 with Tapatalk 2

Other things to try.....
Keep the number of home screens to a minimum.....
Remove "Widgets" from your home screens....
Apps like Facebook, eBay, amazon, PayPal, hmv, game, email....basically any app that takes you to a website.....they ALL use ram and they will ALL restart if you close them......they can ALL be deleted and replaced by bookmarked web searches that can be pasted to your home screen....sure you won't get a notification if billy has commented on your status, or if you have an unread email, or if that item you're watching is ending soon, but if your phone works better as a result....who cares lol.......
If you want to take it further than that, root your phone (if you haven't already) and install Gemini app manager.....you can use it to prevent apps from auto running and using ram.......
From my Galaxy W on CM9 and CWM6 with Tapatalk 2

keithross39 said:
OK....my best guess is it's the phones way of protecting it's "core" functions. The ram usage has reached a point where there is a danger of failure of its prime functions and it is attempting to divert ram from other non essential services. First thing you've got to do is find out what's eating your ram. There are apps available that can supply this information though I don't know what they're called as I've never had to use them (sorry) Are you using a lot of apps that run in the background to bring you notifications etc? If this is the case and you don't really need the app, delete it....simples.....
There is also a setting in CM9 that allows you to turn off background data if you need to keep the apps......give it a go and see....it might be all you need to do
From my Galaxy W on CM9 and CWM6 with Tapatalk 2
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'attempting to divert ram from other non essential services' do you really think sound is an non essential service.i just cant have any sound.this is really wierd.

saleelsalam said:
'attempting to divert ram from other non essential services' do you really think sound is an non essential service.i just cant have any sound.this is really wierd.
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OK...maybe "non essential" was the wrong terminology, but I'm sure you understand what I'm trying to say....the rest of my advice still stands though.....
From my Galaxy W on CM9 and CWM6 with Tapatalk 2

is this could be a hardware problem?
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saleelsalam said:
is this could be a hardware problem?
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No....it's more likely to be too much software trying to access too little ram.....
The W has very little compared to some phones....
From my Galaxy W on CM9 and CWM6 with Tapatalk 2

damn!it happened today also.i am fed up.
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saleelsalam said:
i have a strange problem with w.whenever my ram crosses 318mb/351 mb.all the sounds of my phone disappers.i cant play music,video,no locking and unlocking sounds.i have to restart the phone again.this happens atleast once every day.any thoughts on this?
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Are you from a stock rom?
I encountered that when im in stock rom
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shanbhudz said:
Are you from a stock rom?
I encountered that when im in stock rom
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yes stock rom

That'll be another reason then.....ur stock OS has all sorts of bloatware (social hub, music hub, games hub, maps.....) all of it using RAM.....another thing to watch for....3rd party launchers (go launcher + addons).....very RAM hungry....ROOT your phone and freeze the bloat.....you WILL notice a difference.....you don't even have to install a custom rom, though that WILL help too.....
Everything you need to know can be found here.......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941028
From my Galaxy W on CM9 and CWM6 with Tapatalk 2

[Q] Help with newly aquired used KF 1st gen

Hello everyone,
First off I'd like to point out I am a noob when it comes to kindle rooting/flashing but have experience rooting mobile devices and most recently the Razr Maxx so I have some basic knowledge but not enough to figure out what my kindle is running. I recently bought a used Kindle Fire 1st gen and I have just realized that it is or has been rooted at some point and time . Here are a few things I can offer the experts to try and help me figure out where to start to find out what I'm running, etc.
- Looks like its running stock not a custom ROM. I see nothing to be related to Android System, no Google play market or android anywhere in the device settings
- The system version under device tab shows 6.3.1_user_7 digit number (option to "update your kindle" is greyed out)
- When I power on the Kindle the boot logo shows the words Kindle in white and FIRE in blue. At the bottom of the screen it says "press power button for boot options"
-When I hold the power button down the boot options are: Normal/Recovery/Reset Boot Mode
-In Recovery it shows that its running TWRP V 2.1.1
-I have had a error message that says "The process android.process.media has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again" pop up at random times
Before I figured out it had been flashed/rooted at some point and time, I went to the device options and factory reset to default because the previous owner left some apps and games on it, not sure if that was a good or bad thing to do I do not see any Superuser App or anything that would be a giveaway that it has root. To the best of my knowledge it's been functioning properly other than the forceclose issue I mentioned above.
Hopefully someone can help me figure out what this thing is running if anything and what i should update and what exactly a rooted Kindle allows me to do as the thought had not even crossed my mind about it being able to get root.. Thanks in advance for any and all help.

This is running stock with the custom bootloader and recovery
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goldflame09 said:
This is running stock with the custom bootloader and recovery
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Thanks for the feedback. How can i figure out if i have root? Do i need to update recovery?
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xxhtownutzxx said:
Thanks for the feedback. How can i figure out if i have root? Do i need to update recovery?
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download a root checker. you also dont have to update recovery if you dont want it

goldflame09 said:
download a root checker. you also dont have to update recovery if you dont want it
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Can i download the root checker straight from the kindle? Also how do i get the Google play store on the kindle?
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xxhtownutzxx said:
Can i download the root checker straight from the kindle? Also how do i get the Google play store on the kindle?
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try to side load one. google play is somthing else that i would say to do if you were gonna stay on stock but your not so dont worry about it

goldflame09 said:
try to side load one. google play is somthing else that i would say to do if you were gonna stay on stock but your not so dont worry about it
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Im sorry but what does Side load mean? Never have heard that one on the mobile side of the forum sorry for the dumb question.
What are the perks of having a flashed ROM on a Kindle other than the customization part of it?
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xxhtownutzxx said:
Im sorry but what does Side load mean? Never have heard that one on the mobile side of the forum sorry for the dumb question.
What are the perks of having a flashed ROM on a Kindle other than the customization part of it?
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means find an apk online and put it on your sd card and manually install it.
benefits range from faster overall, to being able to get more apps

goldflame09 said:
means find an apk online and put it on your sd card and manually install it.
benefits range from faster overall, to being able to get more apps
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Ah OK, thanks for the clarification. Do they improve battery life like with mobile ROMs? I've noticed the battery life isn't that great on this kindle.
In regards to the get more apps part do you mean by being able to get apks to install manually vs what's available in the Amazon store?
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xxhtownutzxx said:
Ah OK, thanks for the clarification. Do they improve battery life like with mobile ROMs? I've noticed the battery life isn't that great on this kindle.
In regards to the get more apps part do you mean by being able to get apks to install manually vs what's available in the Amazon store?
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Battery life increases slightly.
As for apps, you will have access to the google play store
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goldflame09 said:
Battery life increases slightly.
As for apps, you will have access to the google play store
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Can you recommend a good stable ROM? I don't plan on flashing over and over again as this kindle will go to my daughter.
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xxhtownutzxx said:
Can you recommend a good stable ROM? I don't plan on flashing over and over again as this kindle will go to my daughter.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2051331
Im running this right now. Very stable
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ROM suggestions.

I've been trying different ROMs and was curious about what some of you think. I'm mostly trying to find one that works best with the KF's memory limitations. Has anyone used a jelly bean rom that doesn't have browser crashes and/or keyboards disappearing? Thanks
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zenihilist said:
I've been trying different ROMs and was curious about what some of you think. I'm mostly trying to find one that works best with the KF's memory limitations. Has anyone used a jelly bean rom that doesn't have browser crashes and/or keyboards disappearing? Thanks
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If you do factory reset and wipe data, the latest CyanogenMod (now it's 10.1.2, sorry not allowed to give links)
seems to be stable. Although browser crashes are still there, but not so often.
After some time with various latest CM-based ROMs I have to say that's there are RAM limitations and browser crashes are not so rare. Pity.

Why root 2013 nexus 7?

Look I've been around xda for a long time and am not stranger to root, hacking modding whatever. But this is the first nexus device I've own so the newest android OS is not a problem at least for now. And to boot this little guy is a beast with wings! So even performance is no problem. And also I made sure to buy one long after the reports of touch screen problems so I don't have no issues. So without any insults and cyber bullying kindly give your take on the matter. What the benefits at this point?
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brenty108 said:
Look I've been around xda for a long time and am not stranger to root, hacking modding whatever. But this is the first nexus device I've own so the newest android OS is not a problem at least for now. And to boot this little guy is a beast with wings! So even performance is no problem. And also I made sure to buy one long after the reports of touch screen problems so I don't have no issues. So without any insults and cyber bullying kindly give your take on the matter. What the benefits at this point?
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AdAway is worth it alone

tgyberg said:
AdAway is worth it alone
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Yup, that's my number one reason. First thing I did when I got this was root it.
Titanium Backup is nice too, saves some set-up time by installing some applications from my previous tablet.

brenty108 said:
Look I've been around xda for a long time and am not stranger to root, hacking modding whatever. But this is the first nexus device I've own so the newest android OS is not a problem at least for now. And to boot this little guy is a beast with wings! So even performance is no problem. And also I made sure to buy one long after the reports of touch screen problems so I don't have no issues. So without any insults and cyber bullying kindly give your take on the matter. What the benefits at this point?
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Faster ROMS, custom kernels for speed and battery save. As mentioned Ada way is great. Kicking system apps I don't need or use.
That said, even if for some reason some device came perfect I would still root because I can.
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Those are some fine points guys thank you.
Anyone else?
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Simple. To make it simpler and better!

Xposed Framework definitely fun to play around with. Opens your eyes on new possibilities without flashing different ROMs, if you're like me and like a specific ROM / stock.

Mainly to satisfy the tweaking itch. For me, it's compulsive on Android devices nowadays. Some of the big reasons include:
AFWall+
AdAway
Greenify
Nandroid backups
Custom ROMs
Custom kernels
OpenPDroid
Backup of SMS/MMS & apps
Xposed

With KitKat....apps monitoring the battery (gsam battery, betterbatterystat, etc) need root now
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App ops is the reason I rooted. It disappeared with 4.4.2 and can only be retrieved with root now.
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I built on @locusto03's list:
AFWall+ (privacy, security)
AdAway (ad IP list blocker)
Greenify (memory optimization, performance, battery savings)
Nandroid backups
Custom ROMs
Custom kernels (allow you to over/under clock, etc according to your performance and battery preferences, network speed preferences, GPU preferences, etc. One of my favorite performance tweaks allows users to under-charge the battery slightly, thereby extending its lifetime).
OpenPDroid (privacy tweak)
Backup of SMS/MMS & apps
Xposed (unlocks a veritable smorgasbord of nifty interface enhancements, etc)
+ Xprivacy
+ PimpMyRom (many performance tuning enhancements)
+ Multiboot (ability to boot into distinctly different environments/roms - you could make your stock rom your main and install a custom rom, as well. Just read the about it 1st).
+ dSploit (pen testing)
+ WifiKill (look it up)
+ SecDroid (added security)
+ Ability to remove bloatware (Titanium Backup)

The most important one for me Running OTG cable

Isn't OTG supposed to be available to stock users?
Hit 'Thanx' if I've helped (just in case XDA goes rogue and starts offing the lowest common denominator).

pan.droid said:
Isn't OTG supposed to be available to stock users?
Hit 'Thanx' if I've helped (just in case XDA goes rogue and starts offing the lowest common denominator).
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Supposed to be or not, Google has it disabled in stock. Thus you need to root or use an app like Nexus Media Importer.

But I use media importer before and I'm not rooted.
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brenty108 said:
But I use media importer before and I'm not rooted.
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That's exactly what he said

Good thread. I was wondering the same thing since I'm unlocked but not rooted.
Rick

I felt the same way. I went nearly a week without even unlocking my bootloader, which is unheard of for me. I am now running PA with franco kernel and I don't notice much difference from stock, though the minor enhancements are worth it. I'm excited to play with other kernels to see how much battery life I can squeeze out of this thing.
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What's the most up to date rooting method that is compatible with KitKat? The anchored post for rooting seems to be outdated now.
I need root for Airplay compatibility.

fluidj said:
What's the most up to date rooting method that is compatible with KitKat? The anchored post for rooting seems to be outdated now.
I need root for Airplay compatibility.
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Zedomax. It's an older hack, but if you go through the steps very carefully, one at a time, and be sure to follow the instructions on the video to a T then it's good. I just used it yesterday on a 2013 Nexus 7.

Rooted - now what?

I'm just curious as to what everybody has done now that they've rooted their tablets?
Installed root apps, uninstalled or frozen other apps?

TheOneChristo said:
I'm just curious as to what everybody has done now that they've rooted their tablets?
Installed root apps, uninstalled or frozen other apps?
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Debloat listed apps to speed up or eliminate lag. Uninstall apps not needed, Freeze apps or system files you're not sure to Uninstall. And then create or wait for custom roms.
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Enabled write to SD and plan to use xposed once I know it will work

Xposed installed fine for me.

System App Remover (root) is excellent for this.
This is excellent free app for debloating. It tells you what can be safely removed and what should be left alone and allows for batch uninstall.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp

mitchellvii said:
This is excellent free app for debloating. It tells you what can be safely removed and what should be left alone and allows for batch uninstall.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp
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What's the name of this app because my adblocker is preventing me from using your link. Thanks.
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simacca said:
What's the name of this app because my adblocker is preventing me from using your link. Thanks.
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System App Remover (root)

Debloated and modded a couple system files (feature.xml & build.prop) for now. Waiting on a deodexed ROM so I can theme.

12MaNy said:
Debloated and modded a couple system files (feature.xml & build.prop) for now. Waiting on a deodexed ROM so I can theme.
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What kind of changes? :angel:

Dingchow said:
What kind of changes? :angel:
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I enabled a few crippled options.

12MaNy said:
I enabled a few crippled options.
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I'm sorry but we now refer to these as "functionally challenged" options. ☺

mitchellvii said:
I'm sorry but we now refer to these as "functionally challenged" options. ☺
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Well played

Big one for me is getting up and running quick with Titanium Backup restores. Bought before root was out this time but normally.
Disabling stuff too.
Adblock plus, Lucky patcher
Also upgrade Google Maps back to 6.14.4 is a huge one on my phone. Not so much on the tablet but I may use it in the car more. Will need My Maps for travel.
Custom ROM's when they are out.
Probably forgetting something.
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Changing dpi of apps because in some of them the fonts are too small.
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I've never rooted a Samsung device before. Is it worth it to do now or wait until there are roms available? Do you worry about warranty if you find a hardware issue?
How much would you say debloating helped with speeding up your device? Does it fix the delay from when you press the home button and the animation running? Does it smooth out the stuttering in animations?

meboy said:
Big one for me is getting up and running quick with Titanium Backup restores. Bought before root was out this time but normally.
Disabling stuff too.
Adblock plus, Lucky patcher
Also upgrade Google Maps back to 6.14.4 is a huge one on my phone. Not so much on the tablet but I may use it in the car more. Will need My Maps for travel.
Custom ROM's when they are out.
Probably forgetting something.
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How will you use google map/navigator on the tablet? Is your table with 4G? As far as I know google map requires network access.
I am using CoPilot for navigating in the car. It uses downloaded maps.
With my phone I have been using google navigation but I did not like it too much. It is too insistent with its idea of where to go. It will only
recalculate the route after many miles passed its suggested direction. I had this issue in highway, it may be different in city navigation.

I rooted my S 8.4 wifi (T700) and cleaned bloatware.. now I would like to install twrp or cwm.. to make a backup and play deeper with the toy..
Has anyone done it already? Any different from other androids?
Thx.

@Peter234: Probably tethering. I have zero problems using my Note 3 as a hotspot. I also think that Google Maps will let you 'cache' a route as well; IIRC it's one of the Labs features.
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rolandhsu23 said:
I've never rooted a Samsung device before. Is it worth it to do now or wait until there are roms available? Do you worry about warranty if you find a hardware issue?
How much would you say debloating helped with speeding up your device? Does it fix the delay from when you press the home button and the animation running? Does it smooth out the stuttering in animations?
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Debloating doubles your battery life, and the device will always respond much faster because those running system apps eat up a lot of RAM and CPU power. After I did a massive debloat, the lag and stuttering pretty much went away.
You can also install root apps, which can speed up your RAM, prolong battery life, and improve performance. My favorites are Greenify, SD Booster, and Autokiller.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Got-ROOT-Here-are-the-root-Android-apps-you-must-try_id46065

De bloating does not double your battery life not even nearly double. Also 80% free RAM is no quicker than 20% free RAM. Sure, improvements can be had but let's keep things in the realm of reality here.