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Should I root?

I'm pretty new at rooting phones, I rooted my s2 with a custom ROM..I love the way my gn2 is now and except the bloatware. I've disabled them already but do they have any effect on the phone still?
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Yes but it will void warranty
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So having a few bloat ware apps really effect the phones speed that much?
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The stock firmware lets you disable bloatware. I was going to root until I found that out. Then I rooted and went back to stock.
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nemesis_9 said:
So having a few bloat ware apps really effect the phones speed that much?
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no lol. best reasons to root right now are good phone backups, decent file explorers, and interface modifications. There are a few other niche reasons to root but a regular user should be just fine. this phone's really good.

The Note 2 runs great without rooting.
And its nice that you can disable unwanted apps as mentioned above.
And if u dont like the main UI (touchmywiz) then just download another launcher like Nova or golauncher.
Problem with most Roms is there is usually something that doesnt work...thats just part of it.
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andrawer said:
The Note 2 runs great without rooting.
And its nice that you can disable unwanted apps as mentioned above.
And if u dont like the main UI (touchmywiz) then just download another launcher like Nova or golauncher.
Problem with most Roms is there is usually something that doesnt work...thats just part of it.
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First phone I haven't felt the urge to root. It's nearly perfect out of the box other than the TW launcher which Nova Launcher solves for me. Was really looking forward to the Nexus 4 but don't think I can give my Note 2 up.
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Thanks for all the responses... I've been running nova as well. I really like it.
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Yes stop floundering and just root the Note. Its painless and mostly one click. With Triangle Away, you can easily wipe the flash counter if you ever need to unroot the phone and return it for warranty or whatever.
I rooted for the ability to:
1. Use Titanium Backup to backup app data and freeze/uninstall bloatware && system apps (TB alone is worth rooting.)
2. Use ADblock. (Seriously refuse to EVER look at ads on my phone)
3. CUSTOM ROMS. (The biggest reason to root. My phone has JEDI-ROM which is a BEAST of a ROM. Unlimited Multi-window with ANY app, the FORCE optimizations, and BATTERY LIFE. My N2 was getting about 14 hours from a full charge on stock rom, now it gets on average of 24-30 HOURS on one charge. I don't even charge it during the night anymore.)
ATT won't be sending out any updates for the phone until a couple of months at least. Will Multi-Window even be included? Who knows. If it is included, it WONT be compatible with any app like the modded version.
If you make a list of WHY NOT, and WHY SHOULD you root, the WHY NOT list will be alot shorter. The flash counter is really the only "permanent" change you are making to the phone that will void warranty, but like I said there is a Root method which doesnt trip the counter, or you can use Triangle Away to wipe it.

I was happy un-rooted for the past 3 to 4 weekst, but i needed root access so I could use Root Explorer to delete a file so I could get flash to work with Dolphin Browser.
Sunday I rooted and flashed Jedi 3.2 ROM. I also had to flash a different Kernel so it would recognize my SanDisk 64GB Ultra MicroSD card. Now I'm enjoying Multi-View and no bloat. Hard to say but my battery live seems improved. That could be just a matter of usage not different. Time will tell. But I'm happy I finally rooted and flashed a custom ROM.
If you need to you can always go back to stock for warranty issues, but I've never had to do that.

Sorry to ask this... but can someone just provide a simple link to a easy-to-do root method, without me having to wade through hundreds of different threads and thousands of different posts? I am very new to rooting. I've only done it once, with my old HTC EVO 4G, and that was seamless because it was a one-click root method. All of these other subsequent root methods for other phones, including the Note, seem really intricate and they seem to require tons of time I don't have to devote to reading. If an easy root method is available, with instructions, I thank anyone in advance for directing me towards it. I only really want to root for Titanium Backup and also to improve battery life. I can't get these crazy on-screen times other non-rooted (or so they claim) folks are getting, so it seems like rooting will be the only way I can dream of getting it.

I'd like the same.. simple explanation and instructions..
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Android The Greek said:
The stock firmware lets you disable bloatware. I was going to root until I found that out. Then I rooted and went back to stock.
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can you tell me what you mean? are you referring to the hide function in the app drawer? I'm tired of seeing the update notifications for att apps in the market. Is Titanium backup the only way to freeze those apps?
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nemesis_9 said:
I'd like the same.. simple explanation and instructions..
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To root fast and easy:
Download this and extract:
http://download.chainfire.eu/280/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-t0lteatt-samsungsghi317.zip
unplug your phone for the pc,
run odin3 v1.85. click pda and then select cf-auto-root...md5
Make sure the box "re-partition" is not checked.
Hook your phone up to your usb port on your pc. wait a few seconds for that first box to turn green then click start.
your phone will reboot on its own and then you're done.
Follow this to the letter. I basically just summarized a guide i used but could not find again to link you to it.
EDIT* oh hey i found the link to the guide i used. I recommend you read it, does a better job than i did and its all very simple: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980644

systoxity said:
can you tell me what you mean? are you referring to the hide function in the app drawer? I'm tired of seeing the update notifications for att apps in the market. Is Titanium backup the only way to freeze those apps?
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From the applications manager, there is a disable button next to the force stop. It is akin to TB freeze.
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nemesis_9 said:
I'm pretty new at rooting phones, I rooted my s2 with a custom ROM..I love the way my gn2 is now and except the bloatware. I've disabled them already but do they have any effect on the phone still?
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The only reason I haven't rooted mine yet is because I am lazy...lol...lol...lol
Should you root yours...is a matter of personal perference really.Since you already know a little about it..you know what to look for and what to expect.
Do you like it as it is...or do you want to start flashing various mods & themes and different roms ?
It's no different than your S2 really in regards to this...except these run nice as they are out of the box...
I'm not a big fan of Touch Wiz...or any other skin someone has put on it...and while the virtues of the S-pen apps that come bundled with it are nice...I know it won't be long till they or some good substitutes are offered out of it as well...I just didn't buy my Note II for the S-pen...I bought it because of what it can be...and because of the hardware it already employs...Since I enjoy mixing and matching various things to make my phone unique and the best for me......rooting mine is only a matter of time..
I see a bright future for this phone and what has been done so-far is only a scratch on the surface of it...
Root it and play around with it..or keep it stock...either way enjoy it.
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Don't Root
Considering you have an Android, there is no point in rooting because you have all the cuztomization options from the Google Play store. The only reason there is to root is to have wifi hack or Ad Blocker.

FutureSteveJobs said:
Considering you have an Android, there is no point in rooting because you have all the cuztomization options from the Google Play store. The only reason there is to root is to have wifi hack or Ad Blocker.
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Or to get around the restrictions imposed on us by our carriers.
What do you mean by "wifi hack"?
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Considering you have an Android, there is no point in rooting because you have all the cuztomization options from the Google Play store. The only reason there is to root is to have wifi hack or Ad Blocker.
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Rooting doesn;t seem that hard to do. What I'm worried about is how to install a custom ROM and making sure I did everything right. I feel like there's different instructions depending on the rom I see and sometimes there's no instructions at all!
I put ICS on the HP Touchpad that I got cheap but that is the extent of my knowledge on this topic. I'd really love to have Multiview because ATT can't do their jobs but I'm worried I'd screw up. Is there a detailed explanation or online video showing me how to install a rom like Jedi for example?

Techweed said:
I'd really love to have Multiview because ATT can't do their jobs but I'm worried I'd screw up. Is there a detailed explanation or online video showing me how to install a rom like Jedi for example?
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I'd just follow the OP's post#1 in the Development section (below)... there's a section on "Installation" for the Jedi X3.3 ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005141

No Root

I've chosen not to root my gn2 but I would still like to customize it as much as I can. I love black out apks and was wondering if somebody knows of any apks I can use on my unrooted gn2 to customize it? A lot of thanks to anybody who can help me...
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MzBossn said:
I've chosen not to root my gn2 but I would still like to customize it as much as I can. I love black out apks and was wondering if somebody knows of any apks I can use on my unrooted gn2 to customize it? A lot of thanks to anybody who can help me...
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Can I ask why not? I get not wanting to go as far as custom roms, but with adblockers and access to the system and data partitions, you can do quite a bit without having to go for a full rom.

Well I'm just comfortable with touchwiz and honestly the last phone I had I thought I knew what doing and bricked. So I lost the courage just getting into all this so I'm a newbie...
:'( but I see all the customizations and would love to have them so I just wanted to take the easy way out and get some apks that would work with my stock...
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Best way to customize your unrooted phone is probaly thru your launcher of choice... there are some that can be customized more than others, basically what your looking for is different themes/icons which you can find for free or buy in the play store.
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What I really want is a black screen planner or a blacked out Facebook, Twitter, transparent multiview a different lockscreen clock... I'm guessing everything I want in going to have to root my phone for huh?
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Actually those can probaly be found doing searches thru xda,or google for sure.
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I had found some but most of them said must root... And the ones that didn't I was afraid to install because I wasn't sure... I'll keep looking though... I thought maybe someone would have a link or something here...
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lickarock said:
Can I ask why not? I get not wanting to go as far as custom roms, but with adblockers and access to the system and data partitions, you can do quite a bit without having to go for a full rom.
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Have to agree with lickarock. There's still quite a lot you can do without going all out like full ROMs. If you simply root your phone and load SuperSU (SuperUser), you can load something like ES File Explorer and do simple installs of apk files through there. You really don't have to worry about bricking your phone in that situation.
While I do load different roms on my N2, like you, I just wanted to get blacked out apps also. I'm running blacked out Gmail and Facebook currently, which I loaded through ESFE. Just make sure you uninstall the original apps then install the apks through ESFE and reboot. Everythings running smooth on my phone.
I've had a few scares loading different ROMs where my phone wouldn't boot up and I thought I maybe bricked my phone.......luckily I got it back up and running. Battery pulls suck.......lol
Just be sure to read through all the posts that you find which interest you. Typically, people post issues they are having and possible fixes. If you want to run different roms or something later, just be sure your phone is running the correct specs for it, ie....your baseband version is MA7 vs MC2, not all roms are compatible with multiple versions.

Okay I think I will go that route... ? Say I root it, and 4.2 finally makes its way ota will it still hit my phone or will I have to unrooted in order to get it?
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MzBossn said:
Okay I think I will go that route... ? Say I root it, and 4.2 finally makes its way ota will it still hit my phone or will I have to unrooted in order to get it?
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You would have to either unroot, or wait for a dev to put out a stock rooted version as far as I know..
From my rat infested note ii

It's some black out apps here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236579
I believe other apps require root
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MzBossn said:
Okay I think I will go that route... ? Say I root it, and 4.2 finally makes its way ota will it still hit my phone or will I have to unrooted in order to get it?
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What spary said! You're really better off just waiting for one of the devs to roll the updates out.
Again....read the threads all the way through and if you still have questions, do a SEARCH and see if you can find your answers.......if you can't find after searches, don't be afraid to ask ?s.
GL!

If you want a brick-proof(ish) method to get a Root, just Odin a full rooted restore to your phone. Such as this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2241136. Its about as mindless and safe as you can get.

I'm a noob when it comes to rooting/flashing
This phone has been the easiest to root and flash roms to
i used this video as a reference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6BweCW5ck8

mrmondaynight said:
I'm a noob when it comes to rooting/flashing
This phone has been the easiest to root and flash roms to
i used this video as a reference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6BweCW5ck8
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Your awesome thank you!!!
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If you choose not to root, there are still several ways to have a highly customized phone.
Personally, I am a fan of rooting. I have rooted every android phone I have had except my Note 2. Long story short, I bought my Note 2 through my business and cannot afford to run into any headaches that can sometimes pop up even to the most experienced flasher. I will say the Note 2 is also the first android phone that I haven't felt the need to root for increased performance. CPU, RAM, Battery life, this phone has all three for days.
I created a thread dedicated to creating a custom look without root. And in many ways this is the most custom phone I've ever had.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274378
It's a work in progress and I am adding more and more stuff all the time.
Also check out mycolorscreen.com
For a blacked out messaging app you might check out Go SMS Pro. There are downloadable themes and you can make your own.

Dakota0206 said:
If you choose not to root, there are still several ways to have a highly customized phone.
Personally, I am a fan of rooting. I have rooted every android phone I have had except my Note 2. Long story short, I bought my Note 2 through my business and cannot afford to run into any headaches that can sometimes pop up even to the most experienced flasher. I will say the Note 2 is also the first android phone that I haven't felt the need to root for increased performance. CPU, RAM, Battery life, this phone has all three for days.
I created a thread dedicated to creating a custom look without root. And in many ways this is the most custom phone I've ever had.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274378
It's a work in progress and I am adding more and more stuff all the time.
Also check out mycolorscreen.com
For a blacked out messaging app you might check out Go SMS Pro. There are downloadable themes and you can make your own.
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Thank you that's very informative... I really enjoy touchwiz but I just want to root to remove the system apps that prevent me from installing the blackout apps I want like gmail, playstore, ect... And get rid of the ones I don't want or use but I still want the ota's and touchwiz and thanks to the people in this thread is figured out how to customize it exactly how I want it... Thank You all of you!!!!
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Just root! I was new to samsung and odin with the gn2 and I swear its simple and worth it! You can then go with custom sized touchwiz launcher that you know and want, but looks more appropriate and utilizes the size of the display properly!
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Galaxy SIII has become slow..

So my Galaxy S3 has become slow over time. I noticed about a few weeks ago how my keyboard simply got deleted and dissapeard of my device.. so I had to go into the google store to download another one - not sure if this is even related to my slowness.
However, I have found the device has become slow. It simple takes a while to load APPS, even when typing and just doing other tasks. I've actually disabled the stuff under developer options that I have found on this forum but it made minimal differences. Also I close out all my APPS using the task manager.
I am not rooted and running stock rom. Currently it has 4.1.2 running. If I were to root the device, can I;
1) Backup my stuff beforehand so when I return I can get my game progress etc. back?
2) Will rooting it make a difference?
Thanks in advance.

You will have to buy titanium backup, but worth every penny.
And yes rooting makes a vast difference in speed,stability,and just about everything else.
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Naturesretard said:
You will have to buy titanium backup, but worth every penny.
And yes rooting makes a vast difference in speed,stability,and just about everything else.
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Thanks for the reply.
I did some research and apparently the Carbon Backup APP from the playstore is able to do backups without having root access. So I was actually able to back up my phone with that I guess..
Now, what would you recommend installing once its rooted? What rom?

Its a matter of preference. You have 3 choices. Aosp, touchwiz, or miui. After that it's just preference. All aosp is more or less the same. Same goes for tw. Just different settings or features in each version
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Naturesretard said:
Its a matter of preference. You have 3 choices. Aosp, touchwiz, or miui. After that it's just preference. All aosp is more or less the same. Same goes for tw. Just different settings or features in each version
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Is touchwiz the one that comes stock on the Galaxy S3?

Yes. But there are different uhh... "Flavors" of touchwiz
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Specifically for #2, yes rooting can making a huge difference.
Generally there are either TouchWiz (Name of Samsung's "skin" atop Android on the S3) roms that have huge amounts of customization like Hyperdrive or a debloated and "lighter" rom for better battery life, less lag, etc. On the other side, AOSP or stock Android can come in many different forms, 100% bone stock, All-in-One Roms like PAC, or simpler roms like CM 10.2 or AOKP. I prefer AOSP based roms a lot more than the TouchWiz roms because they generally seem very snappy and give me more internal space too!
AOSP Roms I Recommend:
Bam Rom (not on XDA) http://get.bam-android.com/
Task 650's AOKP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766684
Best one IMO: Quantum by pwncakes http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390147
Hope this helps!

I use the S3Rx rom myself and really enjoy it. It is touchwiz baised and is silky smooth. I also put it on my wife's S3 and she has not had any problems. Cheers.
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ankorite said:
I use the S3Rx rom myself and really enjoy it. It is touchwiz baised and is silky smooth. I also put it on my wife's S3 and she has not had any problems. Cheers.
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Thanks for the advice

Safe removal of apps from rooted N7 (2013) 4.2.2

Hi all. I'm wanting to remove some of the apps from my Nexus 7 (2013). It is rooted and using the stock 4.2.2 KitKat ROM.
Can anyone tell me which apps are safe for removal and which ones aren't, as well as the best way to go about it?
I don't need things like some of the Google apps but I've had bad experiences with previous Android devices when I've just started deleting things
Many thanks all!
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Sorry... *4.4.2
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OpenFerret said:
Hi all. I'm wanting to remove some of the apps from my Nexus 7 (2013). It is rooted and using the stock 4.2.2 KitKat ROM.
Can anyone tell me which apps are safe for removal and which ones aren't, as well as the best way to go about it?
I don't need things like some of the Google apps but I've had bad experiences with previous Android devices when I've just started deleting things
Many thanks all!
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Why not just disable them in stock settings app (or freeze them with Titanium Backup)? They don't take up very much space. That way, if something starts going wrong, you can just unfreeze them. Plus, if you ever want to upgrade using the OTA method down the road, it will fail everytime since you've have deleted them, and you'd have to reflash the stock system before flashing the OTA. That being said, I have attached a screenshot of the apps I've disable, and I have seen no ill effects on my N7.

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Why not just disable them in stock settings app (or freeze them with Titanium Backup)? They don't take up very much space. That way, if something starts going wrong, you can just unfreeze them. Plus, if you ever want to upgrade using the OTA method down the road, it will fail everytime since you've have deleted them, and you'd have to reflash the stock system before flashing the OTA. That being said, I have attached a screenshot of the apps I've disable, and I have seen no ill effects on my N7.
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Listen to this man, he speaks the truth.

Okey pokey. Many thanks for the heads up dudes.
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Rooted - now what?

I'm just curious as to what everybody has done now that they've rooted their tablets?
Installed root apps, uninstalled or frozen other apps?

TheOneChristo said:
I'm just curious as to what everybody has done now that they've rooted their tablets?
Installed root apps, uninstalled or frozen other apps?
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Debloat listed apps to speed up or eliminate lag. Uninstall apps not needed, Freeze apps or system files you're not sure to Uninstall. And then create or wait for custom roms.
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Enabled write to SD and plan to use xposed once I know it will work

Xposed installed fine for me.

System App Remover (root) is excellent for this.
This is excellent free app for debloating. It tells you what can be safely removed and what should be left alone and allows for batch uninstall.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp

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This is excellent free app for debloating. It tells you what can be safely removed and what should be left alone and allows for batch uninstall.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp
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What's the name of this app because my adblocker is preventing me from using your link. Thanks.
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simacca said:
What's the name of this app because my adblocker is preventing me from using your link. Thanks.
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System App Remover (root)

Debloated and modded a couple system files (feature.xml & build.prop) for now. Waiting on a deodexed ROM so I can theme.

12MaNy said:
Debloated and modded a couple system files (feature.xml & build.prop) for now. Waiting on a deodexed ROM so I can theme.
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What kind of changes? :angel:

Dingchow said:
What kind of changes? :angel:
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I enabled a few crippled options.

12MaNy said:
I enabled a few crippled options.
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I'm sorry but we now refer to these as "functionally challenged" options. ☺

mitchellvii said:
I'm sorry but we now refer to these as "functionally challenged" options. ☺
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Well played

Big one for me is getting up and running quick with Titanium Backup restores. Bought before root was out this time but normally.
Disabling stuff too.
Adblock plus, Lucky patcher
Also upgrade Google Maps back to 6.14.4 is a huge one on my phone. Not so much on the tablet but I may use it in the car more. Will need My Maps for travel.
Custom ROM's when they are out.
Probably forgetting something.
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Changing dpi of apps because in some of them the fonts are too small.
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I've never rooted a Samsung device before. Is it worth it to do now or wait until there are roms available? Do you worry about warranty if you find a hardware issue?
How much would you say debloating helped with speeding up your device? Does it fix the delay from when you press the home button and the animation running? Does it smooth out the stuttering in animations?

meboy said:
Big one for me is getting up and running quick with Titanium Backup restores. Bought before root was out this time but normally.
Disabling stuff too.
Adblock plus, Lucky patcher
Also upgrade Google Maps back to 6.14.4 is a huge one on my phone. Not so much on the tablet but I may use it in the car more. Will need My Maps for travel.
Custom ROM's when they are out.
Probably forgetting something.
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How will you use google map/navigator on the tablet? Is your table with 4G? As far as I know google map requires network access.
I am using CoPilot for navigating in the car. It uses downloaded maps.
With my phone I have been using google navigation but I did not like it too much. It is too insistent with its idea of where to go. It will only
recalculate the route after many miles passed its suggested direction. I had this issue in highway, it may be different in city navigation.

I rooted my S 8.4 wifi (T700) and cleaned bloatware.. now I would like to install twrp or cwm.. to make a backup and play deeper with the toy..
Has anyone done it already? Any different from other androids?
Thx.

@Peter234: Probably tethering. I have zero problems using my Note 3 as a hotspot. I also think that Google Maps will let you 'cache' a route as well; IIRC it's one of the Labs features.
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rolandhsu23 said:
I've never rooted a Samsung device before. Is it worth it to do now or wait until there are roms available? Do you worry about warranty if you find a hardware issue?
How much would you say debloating helped with speeding up your device? Does it fix the delay from when you press the home button and the animation running? Does it smooth out the stuttering in animations?
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Debloating doubles your battery life, and the device will always respond much faster because those running system apps eat up a lot of RAM and CPU power. After I did a massive debloat, the lag and stuttering pretty much went away.
You can also install root apps, which can speed up your RAM, prolong battery life, and improve performance. My favorites are Greenify, SD Booster, and Autokiller.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Got-ROOT-Here-are-the-root-Android-apps-you-must-try_id46065

De bloating does not double your battery life not even nearly double. Also 80% free RAM is no quicker than 20% free RAM. Sure, improvements can be had but let's keep things in the realm of reality here.