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will anyone be porting cyanogen Roms

HI there I am sure there is a lot of people who want this Rom. We have the kernal now someone must be able to do it.

You perhaps?
Seriously though, I started looking into building the 2.69.29 kernel, and got as far as setting up a development environment and building the 2.69.27 kernel from source.
However, Google then announced Android 2.0, and HTC announced that the Hero would be getting it, so I rather lost interest in spending a load of time on something which will likely become obsolete in a few weeks. I'm sure that's the case for many people here who were thinking about dipping their toes in.
Regards,
Dave

Yes but remember if you learn how to compile kernels and all that fun stuff then you can help bring the latetst and greatest to the phone after 2.0. Thats what Im trying to do. I have a CDMA Hero so I'm trying to help build the dev community there.

chuckhriczko said:
Yes but remember if you learn how to compile kernels and all that fun stuff then you can help bring the latetst and greatest to the phone after 2.0. Thats what Im trying to do. I have a CDMA Hero so I'm trying to help build the dev community there.
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I know how to build kernels - it's the balls-aching work of adding the HTC changes to 2.69.29 that doesn't interest me because I can tell you for certain, it won't be fun! Given that 2.0 is just around the corner (hopefully!), I personally don't see much benefit at this stage.
Regards,
Dave

E2K said:
yeah, it would be the biggest investment ever on the Hero board to learn how to change the HTC apps to the original android apps...
I mean like F*CK reiserFS and ext5 kernel support. WTF will that give us?
It was a mistake to buy a Hero. It cost me 340 Euros, to see people f*cking around, while achieving NOTHING. If I had a G1, which is 150 euros cheaper, I would be running 1.6 WITH the Sense UI, should I ever want that. With full WIFI, Bluetooth, GPS, camera, trackball, sensor, everything.
Now I am stuck with an ugly ass branded Hero.
I seriously hate all the people who told me and who wrote that the Sense UI was great. I hope all their phones brick!
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Just have patience. As I have stated I came from the Dream forums. Quite honestly, I would still have my Dream if I didnt have to switch to Sprint but I did and now have the Hero. Thing is, we are rolling along pretty well. We just need patience. It took a long time to get more devs working on the Dream. At first we just had JesusFreke for the longest time but then we got Haykuro who was an amazing dev. Then Cyanogen came along and so did the others. I am working hard trying to learn this stuff as I am sure a lot of us are. Just be patient. The Hero will get it's due.

E2K said:
yeah, it would be the biggest investment ever on the Hero board to learn how to change the HTC apps to the original android apps...
I mean like F*CK reiserFS and ext5 kernel support. WTF will that give us?
It was a mistake to buy a Hero. It cost me 340 Euros, to see people f*cking around, while achieving NOTHING. If I had a G1, which is 150 euros cheaper, I would be running 1.6 WITH the Sense UI, should I ever want that. With full WIFI, Bluetooth, GPS, camera, trackball, sensor, everything.
Now I am stuck with an ugly ass branded Hero.
I seriously hate all the people who told me and who wrote that the Sense UI was great. I hope all their phones brick!
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Wow, I have no words at all. I would be flaming this guys post if I wasnt this tired..

Foxmeister is right. Seriously, with the rapid changes in play, with HTC announcing they will be bringing Android 2.0 to the Hero soon, it makes little sense to invest time right now tweaking a kernel build that will be obsoleted. Hopefully HTC will give us an Android 2.0 build for Xmas. Then, we will start doing some serious playing with the kernel.

E2K said:
The situation now is like this:
(Linux analogy.)
-How is your linux install going?
"Well, I am just finishing patching my kernel, because I don't need SSE4 instructions you know, plus I want to add-in reiserFS support, you never know when that will come in handy "
-Cool, so you got everything working?
"Err, no. They headphone jack does not work, also the trackpad of my laptop does not work. I can't connect to my wifi router, hmm, what else?
Oh yeah, bluetooth does not seem to work, but who uses that anyway "
-...yeah, indeed, who uses wifi, or the trackpad right? I believe that you are skilled enough, that if you devoted your reiserFS and sse4 time to making the basic things work, you would have it running in no time!
"stfu noob! who are you to tell me which features I use or don't use??"
Yeah, it ends in tears of course
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And did u do anything to change this situation but naging?
Seriuosly dude, you are not contributing anything at all to this community right now. And you are naging about others work?
And people have real lifes outside of xda development...

behnaam said:
And did u do anything to change this situation but naging?
Seriuosly dude, you are not contributing anything at all to this community right now. And you are naging about others work?
And people have real lifes outside of xda development...
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I tried a 100 times to make developers realize that the knowledge to replace apps with 'real android' ones, will be worth everything, as it will be instant "vanilla" android 2.0 when that hits, including Google navigation (should HTC decide to leave that out).
Nobody is listening, and all the devs 'we have' (I mean people who develop Hero firmwares) are all working seperate on having their own modded, or not modded, ext3 or ext4 support, 1.5 or 1.6 kernels.
I know that I may sound like a noob, but I believe I have a point.
My contribution is insight. The insight that people who work separate lack; the knowledge that if all you hero Devs would work together, nothing could stop you.
You would be uploading videos of Google navigation on Hero even before the G1 had it. I believe in your combined skills, I really do.
I would have sold my Hero after 4 days if I did not believe

E2K said:
yeah, it would be the biggest investment ever on the Hero board to learn how to change the HTC apps to the original android apps...
SNIP>>>
I seriously hate all the people who told me and who wrote that the Sense UI was great. I hope all their phones brick!
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Hahah hilarious, you're a credit to this forum, and to the unluckly humans that bore you.
Seriously, have you got nothing better to complain about? If you don't like Sense UI, then go and buy the Magic or the Samsung Galaxy, at least we wouldn't have to listen to your whinging here...
E2K said:
I tried a 100 times to make developers realize that the knowledge to replace apps with 'real android' ones, will be worth everything, as it will be instant "vanilla" android 2.0 when that hits, including Google navigation (should HTC decide to leave that out).
Nobody is listening, and all the devs 'we have' (I mean people who develop Hero firmwares) are all working seperate on having their own modded, or not modded, ext3 or ext4 support, 1.5 or 1.6 kernels.
I know that I may sound like a noob, but I believe I have a point.
My contribution is insight. The insight that people who work separate lack; the knowledge that if all you hero Devs would work together, nothing could stop you.
You would be uploading videos of Google navigation on Hero even before the G1 had it. I believe in your combined skills, I really do.
I would have sold my Hero after 4 days if I did not believe
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Your contribution isn't insight, it's just an attempt to reduce the phone to the same Android device that everyone else has, instead of making improvements/optimisations to better the way the standard device works with kernel improvements, speed increases and new features.

Why don't you help with the ION/Cupcake development effort anyway (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578162)???

E2K said:
I tried a 100 times to make developers realize that the knowledge to replace apps with 'real android' ones, will be worth everything, as it will be instant "vanilla" android 2.0 when that hits, including Google navigation (should HTC decide to leave that out).
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Oh I see - so just because you want this, you think someone else should spend *their* time and effort to achieve *your* goals. That is no contribution.
According to this poll, it is currently over 7 to 1 in favour of Sense UI (subject to change of course! ), but because *you* don't like it you think that devs shouldn't worry about Sense UI and look at vanilla Android!
As I've already stated, IMHO working on a 2.69.29 kernel is a pointless waste of time right now, as we can expect HTC to drop a fully functional Android 2.0 *with* Sense UI in the near future. Once we have that, the kernel ripped out and dumped into a vanilla Android build, but this will only be done by some who knows how to do it, and crucially wants to!
Here's a tip - if you don't like it, go and build a new version yourself. There's nothing stopping you!
Regards,
Dave

kwiksand said:
Why don't you help with the ION/Cupcake development effort anyway (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578162)???
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What is there to help?
post things like:
"Oh I'm so sad that your computer broke down D': !!!"
"wow I hoppe you really get the accelerometer working!!"
Come on now.
Nobody is making progress by posting in that thread. I read every single page so I know. The only progress is done by the poor developer, poor because people will forget about him as soon as a better one stands up; or when HTC releases 2.0
I wanted to cherish that developer because I believe he is skilled enough to replace the HTC apps one day, and bring to us the closest to vanilla android as is possible without having actual vanilla android (which would not have proper wifi, BT, accelerometer, headphone support, etc etc etc anyway)

foxmeister said:
Oh I see - so just because you want this, you think someone else should spend *their* time and effort to achieve *your* goals. That is no contribution.
According to this poll, it is currently over 7 to 1 in favour of Sense UI (subject to change of course! ), but because *you* don't like it you think that devs shouldn't worry about Sense UI and look at vanilla Android!
As I've already stated, IMHO working on a 2.69.29 kernel is a pointless waste of time right now, as we can expect HTC to drop a fully functional Android 2.0 *with* Sense UI in the near future. Once we have that, the kernel ripped out and dumped into a vanilla Android build, but this will only be done by some who knows how to do it, and crucially wants to!
Here's a tip - if you don't like it, go and build a new version yourself. There's nothing stopping you!
Regards,
Dave
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Everyone who is working on 2.69.29 in a way is pointless, because it is too hard for them to ever get a fully functional android anyway.
They know this themselves.
Their biggest achievement would be to get even half the stuff working, we are not talking about a fully functional rom here!
I did my part in mailing, calling and twittering HTC to release the source, so that the Devs could do what they do best better; develop.
I am a poor med student, I don't have money to throw around on another android phone, I need to buy books and ****.

E2K said:
I did my part in mailing, calling and twittering HTC to release the source, so that the Devs could do what they do best better; develop.
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E2K said:
I wanted to cherish that developer because I believe he is skilled enough to replace the HTC apps one day
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E2K said:
It was a mistake to buy a Hero. It cost me 340 Euros, to see people f*cking around, while achieving NOTHING
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Yeh - you're really helpful - when it comes to bad mouthing people, because you can't get what you want and aren't skilled enough to do it yourself. Great job at "cherishing" benhaam, I can see he's really impressed by your attitude.
E2K said:
I am a poor med student, I don't have money to throw around on another android phone, I need to buy books and ****.
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Here's a suggestion, if you stop talking it, you could just concentrate on buying the books!
Once again, you've missed the crucial point, and that is that no one around here wants to piss around with Donut etc, when Eclair for the Hero is just around the corner.
If you want a vanilla Android device, sell your Hero and buy a 32A Magic. I'm sure you'd find someone in the Sapphire forums willing to trade!
Dave

Hi Dave,
I appreciate that you give your opinion!
I understand that 2.0 is around the corner, and that because of that, nobody wants to invest in 'old' roms, which is understandable.
Still, as I tried to explain many times; the know-how of changing stock apps, can be used on any version of android. That is why I said it would be an investment;
Let's say HTC does not include the vanilla android navigation application in 2.0..
When we are able to exchange the apps, we can fix that in 1 day.

kwiksand said:
Seriously, have you got nothing better to complain about? If you don't like Sense UI, then go and buy the Magic or the Samsung Galaxy, at least we wouldn't have to listen to your whinging here...
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Sense UI is useless and poorly coded. I bought the Hero because I was convinced that I can actually disable this. I like the form-factor of the Hero - thats why I bought it. Not this useless eye-candy.
If a stable release of a vanilla android 2.0 comes out for the Hero I would jump on it right away and I'm quite sure I'm not the only one.

E2K said:
including Google navigation (should HTC decide to leave that out).
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E2K said:
My contribution is insight.
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i will write that down.
E2K said:
Still, as I tried to explain many times; the know-how of changing stock apps, can be used on any version of android. That is why I said it would be an investment;
Let's say HTC does not include the vanilla android navigation application in 2.0..
When we are able to exchange the apps, we can fix that in 1 day.
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still, the only problem we have is that you and three others are the only four people in the world that want to have a vanilla android over htc sense...
so devs team up and the world... erh no the mighty group of four shall be yours forever... until eclair is released.

stingerpl said:
Sense UI is useless and poorly coded. I bought the Hero because I was convinced that I can actually disable this. I like the form-factor of the Hero - thats why I bought it. Not this useless eye-candy.
If a stable release of a vanilla android 2.0 comes out for the Hero I would jump on it right away and I'm quite sure I'm not the only one.
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Same here!
The build quality and the form-factor were my reasons for getting the hero, I really wanted an android phone (without keyboard) and this one had the best processor (7200A instead of 7201) and most memory.

E2K said:
Still, as I tried to explain many times; the know-how of changing stock apps, can be used on any version of android. That is why I said it would be an investment;
Let's say HTC does not include the vanilla android navigation application in 2.0..
When we are able to exchange the apps, we can fix that in 1 day.
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It's not a worthwhile investment IMHO.
Once 2.0 drops for the Hero, you'd be able to build a vanilla 2.0 from the Eclair AOSP because you'll have the correct kernel (2.69.31 I think) with all the HTC driver specific parts. You could do the same today for 1.5 (Cupcake) because we already have the correct kernel for this.
The issue with doing this for Donut is that there's quite a lot of work porting the HTC kernel changes from 2.69.27 to 2.69.29, and this will *all* be rendered redundant when 2.0 drops.
As an aside, there is no reason at all to expect that HTC won't include Google Maps Navigation in their 2.0 build for Hero, but even if they don't getting it working should be relatively trivial. Getting it working on Cupcake though, which is two generations of OS behind, would be much, much harder and again wasted effort once 2.0 is finally available.
Regards,
Dave

Gingerbread 3.0 question.

I'm very pleased with froyo 2.2. And I know this is a hard question to answer but do you think gingerbread 3.0 will be a huge update with lots of new features and improvements or will it just a have a few updates like froyo.

It's gonna be huge... one of the biggest things the world has ever seen.
No, seriously... who should know how it's gonna be, when there aren't any information out yet.
Cheers

Sibbi said:
No, seriously... who should know how it's gonna be, when there aren't any information out yet.
Cheers
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I meant your opinions.

As the name 3.0 says, you can assume that there will be major changes.

My opinion is that 3.0 will be a small update and only bring a couple of new features. Seeing as froyo only has a few new features and it took a while after 2.1 to be released. 3.0 is released by the end of the year. How could they possibly make a huge difference in a short period of time?
I'm hoping I'm wrong as I read somewhere Google said that the update will be that good we won't need HTC sense. Hope that's true.

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I meant your opinions.
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when android version 3.0 is release is signals a massive change in the os, google have decided to make 2 branches of android there will be the android 2.X branch for low to mid end devices and the 3.X branch for top end devices and android tablets, its also going to be alot better looking, the whole android ui is getting a revamp

doinbox said:
My opinion is that 3.0 will be a small update and only bring a couple of new features. Seeing as froyo only has a few new features and it took a while after 2.1 to be released. 3.0 is released by the end of the year. How could they possibly make a huge difference in a short period of time?
I'm hoping I'm wrong as I read somewhere Google said that the update will be that good we won't need HTC sense. Hope that's true.
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They've probably been working on Gingerbread since before they finished Froyo, and the fact that it's called 3.0 instead of 2.3 is significant.

Great stuff cant wait for it now.

It's gonna be huge!!! Major style gaming too
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/11/exclusive-sony-ericsson-to-introduce-android-3-0-gaming-platfor/

mcgon1979 said:
It's gonna be huge!!! Major style gaming too
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/11/exclusive-sony-ericsson-to-introduce-android-3-0-gaming-platfor/
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Android 3.0 will have a facelift and yes a big one heard its going to be based on something like the gallery 3D app.

I recall reading that the rumours circulating about 3.0 are unreliable at best.
doinbox said:
I'm hoping I'm wrong as I read somewhere Google said that the update will be that good we won't need HTC sense. Hope that's true.
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Do we really need it now? The only reason I'm using a Sense ROM at the moment is so that the FM Radio works. If it weren't for that I'd be using a vanilla ROM.

member0 said:
Do we really need it now? The only reason I'm using a Sense ROM at the moment is so that the FM Radio works. If it weren't for that I'd be using a vanilla ROM.
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Without sense widgets I would be lost. I use most of them and the market alternatives just don't do it for me. I suppose it al depends on what the user needs.

Gingerbread
I wonder if Desire will still be defined as a high end device by the end of the year. Would hate if I had to get a new phone to experience 3.0!
Crossing my fingers for legen-dary performance!

I would love to get better update system. Where google would be pushing os updates while htc, mto, se and so on would push their ui + their software updates only. Therefore there would be no fragmentation of the os.

Honeycomb extracted system.img available for download

I have the Honeycomb extracted system.img from the sdk uploaded to mediafire, (mediafire is a lot faster IMO) if anybody wants to take a crack at it, have at it. Be aware, this is not a rom, this is simply the extracted system.img from the honeycomb sdk, just in case someone didnt fully read the title.
http://www.mediafire.com/?2r8jyal51avh48f
EDIT: If this is in the wrong section, im sorry.

Thanks, I'll have a looksy at it

motoman234 said:
Thanks, I'll have a looksy at it
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Have fun.

Oh poor me.. I'm at work.. cannot download and see... I have to wait this night!
But.. thanks!

rafpigna said:
Oh poor me.. I'm at work.. cannot download and see... I have to wait this night!
But.. thanks!
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Sorry I didnt notice it earlier, but then again, the sdk was released about 10 hours ago, so, its not all too bad.

It's Android 3.0 Preview SDK, not the final one.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/preview/index.html

tytung said:
It's Android 3.0 Preview SDK, not the final one.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/preview/index.html
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Dang, I didnt notice that. Oh well. At least devs can use this to find anything they might need to fix before it actually comes out, kinda like how darkstone found the modified init.rc file.

dude I'm glad you're back ...

Legioner79 said:
dude I'm glad you're back ...
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So am I. I missed my HD2.

damn... will hd2 get honeycomb???

I hope HD2 gets Honeycomb, that"ll be sick. Pure bragging rights, 6 os's on one phone lol. Also hoping my Nook Color gets it as well.

diaztradeinc said:
I hope HD2 gets Honeycomb, that"ll be sick. Pure bragging rights, 6 os's on one phone lol. Also hoping my Nook Color gets it as well.
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If you count Android version as one OS, it should be many more ;].
Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, Honeycomb.
And not Android OSes: Windows Mobile 6.5, Windows Phone 7, Ubuntu, MeeGo. Does Windows 95/98 are counted too? If yes, it makes 10 in total, and 8 usable . Of course if we count like we should Android as one OS, it would make 5 systems. Even then it's damn sky high as majority of smartphones run just one dedicated OS.

Isn't Honeycomb strictly a tablet OS? I tried to use the normal HD2 res on it and 240 display density and got only force closes when trying to boot it on my PC.

I have just got used to Gingerbread and now we could get Homenycomb??? Maaan, this would be awesome I only want the devs to take their time to improve Gingerbread as much as possible.

Why would you want a tablet based os on such a little screen like the hd2. Makes no sense to me. I do believe this is one ill stay away from..
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Yea ok, i bet if its ported and runs nice u will flash! lol

Just caught eye of this new story. It appears Honeycomb won't be limited to tablets. There's mention of a phone version to be released later this year.
Honeycomb love. Outstanding! Because the preview version impressed me. A lot different from the usual Android. I would love having this on my HD2.

Honeycomb is very nice according to pocketnow

tmihai20 said:
I have just got used to Gingerbread and now we could get Homenycomb??? Maaan, this would be awesome I only want the devs to take their time to improve Gingerbread as much as possible.
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you could have just done it and not post about it. It makes as much sense as the fact the even though u said you wouldnt, you will...
Anyway, HoneyComb Ftw!!! Functionalities are a plus. I bet we will get native 720p out of this one, just like WP7

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you could have just done it and not post about it. It makes as much sense as the fact the even though u said you wouldnt, you will...
Anyway, HoneyComb Ftw!!! Functionalities are a plus. I bet we will get native 720p out of this one, just like WP7
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I am posting here so that any dev that could start working on this would better improve Gingerbread. I wouldn't install it yet, I will wait just like I did with Gingerbread. Nice file though.

[ROM]DL17/Deodexed/Rooted/Busybox/Debinged/Debloated

Hey folks,
This is a very basic DL17 rom. It has been debloated, debinged, rooted, deodexed, and zipaligned. Does NOT include radio or kernel.
Download link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?wdv53fbgl18988i
This should serve as a decent base for folks to build their future roms.
Credit to bubby323 for providing me the DL17 system dump.
credit to Logan302 for testing in IRC.
Patch
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2056318/update-template/email_continuum.zip This should fix email issues.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2056318/update-template/social_apps.zip Social apps.
use at your own risk. I am not responsible for anything you do to your device!

DD
Tested it, and it worked absolutely perfectly my market its even working again xP bonus
Thank you so much for your time and effort! xD

Thanks for sorting out the issues with the syslinks.
Sent from my SCH-I400 using XDA App

Flashed this, This morning and it works awesome. I also flashed the test kernal you provided a week or so ago and its working great together.
Thanks for this.

Well just noticed some sort of bug on my phone at least.
When i try to add a facebook account to my ticker it fails and when i click on adding an email to my ticker it locks up my phone and i have to pull my battery. It doesnt even get me to a enter email and password screen.
Honestly to me its not a big deal im not a big facebook or email guy so it doesnt bother me.
Also i was wondering if you knew if any of the themes for the fasinate will work for this? I doubt it just wondering.

Fascinate themes must be ported. I'll look into the facebook and email issue fi possible.

Patch added for email.

adrynalyne said:
Fascinate themes must be ported. I'll look into the facebook and email issue fi possible.
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Any idea how i would go about porting them?

There are theme porters out there. I'll get some input from others.

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Any idea how i would go about porting them?
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There are theme porters out there. I'll get some input from others.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932856
the theme porters that are out there...well they most just copy images with the same (or very similar) file names over one another...the post i linked above is my horribly incomplete but still useful attempt at helping people get into themes for the fascinate.
all the tools neccessary are linked in the posts there.
since the fascinate dj05/dl09 update appears very similar to dl17 porting our themes shouldnt be difficult image wise...however there are several xml changes that must be made (especially for black menus)
if anyone is really interested in starting to theme for the continuum look through the above thread and feel free to pm me here with questions or hop into the fascinate irc...im usually in there during the week throughout the day...or others im sure can help too
i had briefly thought about throwing a theme together for the continuum for fun right before dl30 (froyo) leaked...but now i have too much on my plate reporting stuff

While posting an Android ROM, can you guys PLEASE mention what Android version it is? Is this Eclair or Froyo? 2.1, 2.2, 2.2.1...which version? DL17 might explain everything to a developer but not to a user who just wants to flash a ROM on his system and needs to know what Android version it is before actually flashing it.

With all due respect, if you aren't familiar with the naming convention, i.e. don't know what DL17 means, you have no business flashing a rom (until you do). You are gonna end up breaking your device.
2.1Update-1 is the only OS currently available for this device. So.. labeling is a bit redundant right now.

Hey, you guys made the news...
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-continuum-sees-its-first-custom-rom
Sent from my SCH-I400 using XDA App

adrynalyne said:
With all due respect, if you aren't familiar with the naming convention, i.e. don't know what DL17 means, you have no business flashing a rom (until you do). You are gonna end up breaking your device.
2.1Update-1 is the only OS currently available for this device. So.. labeling is a bit redundant right now.
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Thanks for your response and the clarification and with all due respect, the standard naming convention for Android operating systems is in the format of Android <version number> <dessert codename>. I have been flashing ROMs to several devices before there was any Android and have been doing so on a dozen or so Android devices that I have for the past 6 months as well as guiding others in doing so by writing about it - I write about these for a living.
However, one can't be expected to know all about these non-standard or manufacturer-specific ROM naming conventions for all the Android devices out there and unfortunately, I do not have every single device available to test the ROMs on before I write about them. That is why just a few words by the developer in the OP mentioning what Android version it is make things a lot easier for many of us, plus there are several users who are just starting at the flashing business and it makes things more clear to them as well on what they are getting into. Simply saying that if one doesn't know about these non-standard conventions, one shouldn't be trying these things out is similar to saying if one doesn't know how to swim, one shouldn't be getting into the swimming pool. No offense intended. =)
All that being said, keep up the good work - I really appreciate all the hard work you guys put into what you do. Please don't take my comments as a flame - they are just my views on how things can be improved for a lot of us just by a tiny bit of effort from you guys. =)

It is well known that the continuum only has 2.1. Therefore unless there was a 2.2 leak for it (which would be noted) it can be assume by any reasonable person that its a 2.1 rom.

nitsuj17 said:
It is well known that the continuum only has 2.1. Therefore unless there was a 2.2 leak for it (which would be noted) it can be assume by any reasonable person that its a 2.1 rom.
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Agreed but 'well known' can be relative =) What's well-known to the developer community for a particular device might not be well-known to many who are coming across the flashing scene for the device in question for the first time, despite their prior experience with other Android devices. And as leaks are not out of the question either, just adding two words about the Android version just makes things a bit more clear for everyone, that's all I meant to say.

Coverage
Here's some more coverage for you:
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/install-clockworkmod-recovery-on-samsung-continuum/
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http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/install-dl17-clean-rooted-android-2-1-rom-on-samsung-continuum/

HQRaja said:
Agreed but 'well known' can be relative =) What's well-known to the developer community for a particular device might not be well-known to many who are coming across the flashing scene for the device in question for the first time, despite their prior experience with other Android devices. And as leaks are not out of the question either, just adding two words about the Android version just makes things a bit more clear for everyone, that's all I meant to say.
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That goes back to this:
adrynalyne said:
With all due respect, if you aren't familiar with the naming convention, i.e. don't know what DL17 means, you have no business flashing a rom (until you do). You are gonna end up breaking your device.
2.1Update-1 is the only OS currently available for this device. So.. labeling is a bit redundant right now.
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If you don't know what OS your phone is already running, or how they're doing the naming convention, you are likely going to cause yourself massive problems soon. If someone can't figure out About Phone to compare build versions, they likely can't figure out how to get CWM on their phone to even flash this, so it doesn't matter if the OS version is in the title. Once Froyo drops, then it may be different, but until then, you have a very thin argument at best, regardless of how many ROMs you may or may not have flashed in the past.

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That goes back to this:
If you don't know what OS your phone is already running, or how they're doing the naming convention, you are likely going to cause yourself massive problems soon. If someone can't figure out About Phone to compare build versions, they likely can't figure out how to get CWM on their phone to even flash this, so it doesn't matter if the OS version is in the title. Once Froyo drops, then it may be different, but until then, you have a very thin argument at best, regardless of how many ROMs you may or may not have flashed in the past.
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In my experience, not knowing the device-specific naming conventions has never bricked any of the dozens of devices I have flashed, as long as I have known that it is a ROM meant for the particular device in question. However, knowing what Android version the ROM is based on without having to ask only makes sense. This isn't about this one device in particular - the Android scene isn't similar to the iPhone scene where there is just one developer (Apple) rolling out just one OS for all the devices on the market. Android is quite fragmented and I believe simply mentioning the Android version with the ROM regardless of whether any other version is out *yet* or not only makes sense as one never knows when a newer version or a leak might be available.
It is all for the purpose of keeping things as clear to someone at first glance, as possible. Now I do know that no other version but this one has been out for the Continuum but that has been after this discussion. All I am requesting is that the OPs should consider mentioning it with the post so that even a newbie wouldn't have to ask for information as basic as this.
What I fail to see here is why this simple, rather humble request should be seen as such a debatable topic by you guys, when it doesn't even require much effort. Heck, all it requires is typing 'Android' followed by the version number. Is it asking for too much?

Okay, this is getting really off-topic and degenerating fast. There are plenty of other threads saying what DL17 is so just hopping out to the Android Development forum would have answered your question. That said, Android ROMs do often include the version, but not always.
It's not that big of a deal. Let it go.
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Multi window ability with Gnex

Hello,
I saw the Verizon S3 has been given the ability to run 2 windows at the same time.
LINK
Im just curious at why this feature hasnt been ported to the Gnex? Maybe its the hardware specs but its just a question i thought of!
Thanks for reading!:good:

Been a while since this question was asked flooded the forum daily, but the general consensus then was it is not possible w/o a touchwiz port. If you want more info, do a search, it's been talked about multiple times.

WiredPirate said:
Been a while since this question was asked flooded the forum daily, but the general consensus then was it is not possible w/o a touchwiz port. If you want more info, do a search, it's been talked about multiple times.
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yep I've been reading. there were some beta/alpha releases with touch wiz that gave the ability, very slightly. Force closed every few seconds, but other than that we would need a skilled developer and lots of time haha

ryclegman said:
yep I've been reading. there were some beta/alpha releases with touch wiz that gave the ability, very slightly. Force closed every few seconds, but other than that we would need a skilled developer and lots of time haha
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Most of us here agree that nobody wants TW/BLUR/etc, we bought Nexus for "pure Android" or AOSP or an enhanced AOSP ROM. That is why you wont likely see fully functional ports of those skins/overlays/bloatware, we bought Nexus to get away from that bs. No offense to anybody who likes those skins or the features that they might come with, but the Nexus community is more AOSP focused.

hardware doesn't powerful enough, so if you run two window in GNexus, you will feel that works too slow

I think AOSP is great indeed! im not one for sence, unless its sense 5.0, and TW just has the neat window effect. Im sure eventually it could be created natively eventually. The Halo idea is a step towards it i think. Maybe one day!

What about Cornerstone? I loved it on my tablet, while I used it. Not sure how well it would work on a smaller screen though.

jaizero said:
What about Cornerstone? I loved it on my tablet, while I used it. Not sure how well it would work on a smaller screen though.
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Pretty cool reading up on it! Not an app, but has to be built into the ROM itself. Its open source now and looks doable? if there is a will, there is a way. thanks for the share!

ryclegman said:
Pretty cool reading up on it! Not an app, but has to be built into the ROM itself. Its open source now and looks doable? if there is a will, there is a way. thanks for the share!
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Yeah, sorry if I created any confusion. It definitely needs to be baked into the ROM source. "He who we do not name" had an Iconia A500 ICS ROM with Cornerstone built in. It was nice but he didn't include it in future releases of ICS or JB. My understanding is, is that it's really designed for larger screen devices like tablets. I'm pretty sure text etc. would be too small to read in the smaller multitasking windows. But running 2+ apps at once on a GNex and being able to bring them to the larger window at will would be pretty darn sweet. :highfive:

jaizero said:
Yeah, sorry if I created any confusion. It definitely needs to be baked into the ROM source. "He who we do not name" had an Iconia A500 ICS ROM with Cornerstone built in. It was nice but he didn't include it in future releases of ICS or JB. My understanding is, is that it's really designed for larger screen devices like tablets. I'm pretty sure text etc. would be too small to read in the smaller multitasking windows. But running 2+ apps at once on a GNex and being able to bring them to the larger window at will would be pretty darn sweet. :highfive:
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Hell yeah!
Here are some nightly builds it appears for the GNEX, but not for toro, which i have.
Link is here

In all honesty, why? The device's age is clearly showing with the ongoing firmware updates that are optimized for higher end devices. The GN, while still a great phone, is becoming somewhat slow and I can't see a mod like this being any better.
It would be indeed a cool idea for the N4 though.

you can try to do a full wipe, it often works

iLeopard said:
In all honesty, why? The device's age is clearly showing with the ongoing firmware updates that are optimized for higher end devices. The GN, while still a great phone, is becoming somewhat slow and I can't see a mod like this being any better.
It would be indeed a cool idea for the N4 though.
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I agree. :good:

icexx7 said:
I agree. :good:
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Mine as well keep whats alive alive! the development in the gnex is still outstanding.