has anyone noticed any lag in newer roms? - Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Each ROM post 4.1.2 that I've used (4.2+) has been laggy to the point where its unusable. I am currently using TWA
Privs cm9 ICS. On the newer Roms I always wipe system,cache,dalvik cache, and data. I am just wondering why are
Newer Roms laggy?is there a workaround? (By laggy I mean browser randomly closing,taking a long time to do anything
And other things that brings my kindle to the point where its unusable) ( my kindle isn't my main device as I have
A nexus 7 2013 that I'm typing on right now but I need my kindle to be usuable) has anyone experienced this same
Stuff?

You're not alone in these issues. I've bounced from rom to rom looking for the one that compromises the least. Cm9 roms suffer from lack of deep sleep. Cm10 from browser crashes and lag.
Maybe 4.4 is the answer?
Also, the cm9 you referenced, does it deep sleep? I don't think I tried that one.
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I have Jellybean 4.3.1 and it doesn't lag in mayor way. It only does when multitasking since it doesn't have so much RAM. I also use Greenify to check for background processes and I try to use low intensive apps. But I think that KitKat can solve many of this problems since it supports low RAM devices.
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zenihilist said:
You're not alone in these issues. I've bounced from rom to rom looking for the one that compromises the least. Cm9 roms suffer from lack of deep sleep. Cm10 from browser crashes and lag.
Maybe 4.4 is the answer?
Also, the cm9 you referenced, does it deep sleep? I don't think I tried that one.
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I doubt it has deep sleep but I haven't charged it in a few days and it wasn't full when I put it down and its still at 50 plus percent....keep in mind I know this just because I check it every few days (don't use it much) and its TWA privs cm9.

sebtorres82 said:
I have Jellybean 4.3.1 and it doesn't lag in mayor way. It only does when multitasking since it doesn't have so much RAM. I also use Greenify to check for background processes and I try to use low intensive apps. But I think that KitKat can solve many of this problems since it supports low RAM devices.
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Yea. Can't wait till kitkat so I can finally move from cm9.also,I am even considering downgrading to cm7 but I'm not because no app support. Dang amazon only putting in 512mbs ram after 1 gig is standard in mobile devices.(512 wasn't enough for most things when ICS came out,amazon really cheaped out.

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[Q] Are the relatively newer ROMS too heavy for Desire Z ?

Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
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Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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Task Killer is not the issue, as I only installed it the other day .. The condition was same before as well ..
d_gkal said:
i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
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I dont think it will make any difference .. I've tried many different ROMs, and its always the same condition with all ... Sometimes my phone become *so* unresponsive that I just feel like smashing it on the ground ! (When I really get upset!)
Also, on another note, when I open Advanced Task Killer, it shows me the amount of free RAM on the top .. Most of the times this value is between 60 MB ~ 100 MB, and sometimes between 100 MB ~ 140 MB .. If never seen this value go above 135 MB or so ... And Desire Z is supposed to have 512 MB of RAM
just full wipe and reflash the rom
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just full wipe and reflash the rom
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If I do that, it will initially be fast .. Even if I install all my apps on the first day, it will still be okay in terms of speed ... But give it a week, it eventually becomes slow .. very slow! .. And the odd thing is, during this week, I don't necessary install/uninstall anything .. the phone just ****s itself in somehow ... And then from then on, it remains slow, no matter what ...
I open Google Maps, takes like 15 seconds to open .. takes another 60 seconds to go to Google Navigation, and then further lags after that ..
Basically there's a lag in *everything* !
Is there a way I can see what is slowing down the phone ?!
Also, is it true or not whether an older phone, such as Desire Z, can or cannot handle a relatively newer Android version ROM ? Maybe this is why the latest Android versions are NOT officially available for phones many times, because the manufacturer knows the device cannot handle that newer Android version ?
If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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ahmadka said:
Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
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i had a play with elitemod ics the other day & it was defiantly slower than the GB version... it was using more or less double the ram which i suspect is the real problem.....
Yes its true the newer versions are more hungry. We touched on it in one of the andromadus threads recently. I believe the issue to be the cpu. The nexus s has the same amount of ram as us and although its not as good on there as the gnex, its still good. Having bumped my lower cpu limit a notch, its much better. I also tried a few upper limits and found that 1200 to be best as it suffers with animation under that.
But then all dz's are different. Stay on your rom and bump up the lower limits a few clicks and let us know what you think.
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I've noticed the slowdowns happening with negligible CPU load and no memory constraints. I suspect a problem with the kernel. At the times it happens, the phone seems to be just doing *nothing*.
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If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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Is there any other thing I can try apart from logcat ? I installed Watchdog a few hours ago, but so far it hasn't reported anything out of the way ..
What does have ext partitions do ? How does that speed up the OS ?
Also, I'm probably going to be re-flashing another ROM soon, so please suggest me a ROM ... I'm looking for maximum longterm stability and responsiveness here, so even if a ROM isn't the newest or the most feature-filled, I can still try it out ..
And what is Superwipe (read it in another thread) ?
Normally, when I restore stuff after installing a ROM, I download a fresh copy of the app from the Store, and only restore the app's data using titanium .. is this okay ?
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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demkantor said:
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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I'm assuming you're referring to this thread: http://www.forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Well this is the ROM I'm currently using, which I flashed about 2 months ago, which is giving me all these performance issues ..
I went through the first few pages, but I didn't find any instructions on 4EXT ... The only thing I found was in the OP's FAQ in the start, which said that you should apply ext by downloading 4ext from Play Store, if you get lags ..
Anywhere else I can look ?
Look in general section, somewhere in the first page I posted a thread called dzhboot on g2 or something to that extent, one of the first few posts I eplain how to flash 4ext recovery.
One of the fastest roms I have used is elitemod cm7, maybe try that
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I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
Ext4 worked really well for me to speed up my phone.. I highly recommend it.
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alexnh said:
I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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i superwipe, and i've been flashing roms since the g1. I am not seeing any particular process hogging resources. this current jb beta is pretty good but still get some lagging at random.
if that were the case I would love to try and find out what it is.
it seems to me that a minority of users report lags in rom threads and are dismissed without ever really getting to the root of the problem.
I would really like to try and get to the bottom of it. I am going to move to ext4 but if there are other troubleshooting steps to take I am all ears.
Ext4 alone will make a huge difference, and most of the rest of the slow downs will be do to apps/running services which can be seen with a logcat what is continually trying to use cpu resources
If only a minority report slowdowns then either that minority has a different idea of how the phone should run/ they use the phone in a completley different way/ or have different settings and apps then most have.
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Tired of my Gnex

In the beggining my Gnex was awesome, fast and stable. After a while it gets so laggy that it reminds me my old LG P500. I am running Purity rom, Android 4.2.1 + Franco kernel and this happend to me in every rom I flashed. After a few days the device gets laggy and its hard to use it. Browsing in Chrome is a nightmare. Opening apps can take 20 seconds. Delay with pressing the nav bar softkeys, it takes about 2 seconds for it to react.
I love Android and I know that something wrong here, please help me figure what. I tried to wipe dalvik cache + cache and it helps for about a day.
I had the same problem before while running Franco kernel with both stock android 4.2 and aokp.
Browsing became impossible, not only in chrome.
Restoring the stock kernel helped
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How many apps do you have on your device and how much storage space is being used? Maybe you are running low on memory.
I stopped flashing custom kernels a few months ago and have so far had a better experience. I don't get the random reboots anymore, and my phone seems more consistent with speed. I know lots of people swear by the custom kernels, but for my phone I have noticed a much more enjoyable experience if I stick to the packaged kernel.
I have almost 2 gb of free storage but My RAM is almost full all the time..
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I thought I read somewhere before of something similar. Someone had really low storage space and their phone was laggy. You might want to check that out and see if you can free some up. 2GB isnt TOO low though. Maybe you have a lot of processes running in the background. Its hard to say.
WiredPirate said:
I stopped flashing custom kernels a few months ago and have so far had a better experience. I don't get the random reboots anymore, and my phone seems more consistent with speed. I know lots of people swear by the custom kernels, but for my phone I have noticed a much more enjoyable experience if I stick to the packaged kernel.
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^ i support this post
packaged kernels > custom kernels
I've been running Muzzy's ROM a little less than a week and it's been rock solid. Hasn't bogged down on my phone like other Roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096538&highlight=muzzy
I need custom kernels for changing the screen colors. Is there any way to that without a custome kernel?
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junkie
I used to be a constant ROM flasher
For closest to stock but with options, I like Slim and trinity kernel.
Used to use franco, but it began acting squirrely.
Stock is good though.
You must try new Fancy kernel i think.

4.2.2 The bad

Well all things were fine on 4.2.1 and then this update comes,
This is what i noticed so far,
1.Phone is EXTREMELY laggy when downloading from play store
2.Browser quick controls are bugged
3.Lots of launcher crashes
4.Alarm icon in the notification disappears while it's still active
5.Random lag spikes while navigating in de drawer or homescreen,
As far as i go, this is the laggiest jelly bean version, maybe google just got lazy, or they're working on another version of Android (fingers crossed)
EDIT: I'm not talking about custom roms and such, and i'm not willing to flash, i like stock
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First:
Do a full wipe!
Flash STOCK ANDROID JB 4.2.2 (I mean stock, and not CWM flashable stock ROMs with root..)
Use stock Android launcher (Just stock, not modded or anything else)
And then Stop complaining!
I'm on cm10.1 4.2.2 and is probably the smoothest ROM I have ever been on.
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Even I'm using panaroid but i din feel any laggish or bug. May b its a problem which have been created without new boot loader from Google ?
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ray3andrei said:
Well all things were fine on 4.2.1 and then this update comes,
This is what i noticed so far,
1.Phone is EXTREMELY laggy when downloading from play store
2.Browser quick controls are bugged
3.Lots of launcher crashes
4.Alarm icon in the notification disappears while it's still active
5.Random lag spikes while navigating in de drawer or homescreen,
As far as i go, this is the laggiest jelly bean version, maybe google just got lazy, or they're working on another version of Android (fingers crossed)
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1. Use a custom kernel and tweak the read ahead buffer size. With sio io scheduler and 256k buffer size i made the lag minimal for me.
3+5 : use nova launcher and it will be fine
4: it works fine here, make sure you do clean installs.
As a last advice I must say to flash the factory image via fastboot. It is absolutely fine with no issues. I installed it on 2 gnex' already and no problems with lag.
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manumanfred said:
First:
Do a full wipe!
Flash STOCK ANDROID JB 4.2.2 (I mean stock, and not CWM flashable stock ROMs with root..)
Use stock Android launcher (Just stock, not modded or anything else)
And then Stop complaining!
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Stock android is far away from perfect now. JDQ39 is nowhere near rock stable JZO54K. My friend. Scrolling lag is not the matter of clean installation. I've tested five 4.2.2 based roms, including stock all of them lags as hell after a while - it can be one or two days or couple of hours. Actually it's been the most evident of stock and it concerns scrolling between homescreens, lockscreens, recents. A lot of people have experienced it and it's been already reported to google issue tracker. I've already tested stock, cm10.1 m2, PA 3.1 0309, XenonHD 6.0 - all of them lags after a while. At the moment I am testing Purity and I haven's seen lag for two days.
Te easiest way to reproduce the bug. Please do not reboot your devices, and do not change wallpapers for about two days.
Same here, on CM10.1 Play Store is now smooth but was bad on XenonHD.
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I am 100% stock... My phone flies.. No lags nor bugs or redraws...
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sam razzy said:
Even I'm using panaroid but i din feel any laggish or bug. May b its a problem which have been created without new boot loader from Google ?
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No. Your problem is more than likely the former.
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forever_lol said:
Stock android is far away from perfect now. JDQ39 is nowhere near rock stable JZO54K. My friend. Scrolling lag is not the matter of clean installation. I've tested five 4.2.2 based roms, including stock all of them lags as hell after a while - it can be one or two days or couple of hours. Actually it's been the most evident of stock and it concerns scrolling between homescreens, lockscreens, recents. A lot of people have experienced it and it's been already reported to google issue tracker. I've already tested stock, cm10.1 m2, PA 3.1 0309, XenonHD 6.0 - all of them lags after a while. At the moment I am testing Purity and I haven's seen lag for two days.
Te easiest way to reproduce the bug. Please do not reboot your devices, and do not change wallpapers for about two days.
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Well I don't understand where do you see the lags. Because I don't have any lags on my nexus.
The speed also depends what kernel you are using and how much free Memory you have on your nexus..
I'm using my own ROM which is based of stock Android ROM and I have actually never experienced any lags.
Yesterday I got few apps after using apple's BT mouse and when I set up multi users.. But all the lags went away when I rebooted.
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As a last advice I must say to flash the factory image via fastboot. It is absolutely fine with no issues. I installed it on 2 gnex' already and no problems with lag.
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How do I do this?
Not sure if this has been discussed or not I searched and found many bugs but none that meet this specific issue.. I noticed that since I updated to the 4.2.2 leak on my Toro Nexus there have been a few issues:
Audio from the pogo pin dock stopped working.
Car mode goes off and on randomly as well as the charging bolt when the phone should be charging.
Phone goes into daydream mode even when not being charged..
Turning on bluetooth randomly reboots the phone on occasion and other random bugs.
I think I'm going to flash back to the previous OTA. I'm stock unlocked, unrooted, just the way I like my Nexus (for now). In no way is this a complaint, more my observations and a last shot in the dark to see if anyone has overcome these issues in the latest leaked "OTA."
On a side note, other than the dock and power issues, everything has been smooth. No lag etc...
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... I think I'm going to flash back to the previous OTA....
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Ok so I realize I don't know how to do this without resetting all data. From what I've read, the only way back includes wiping all data. Am I wrong? Is there a way for me to go back without wiping? I'm not super versed in all things Android but I think I recall flashing back to a previous OTA in the past to get another OTA to work without wiping. I can't find that thread anywhere so I'm probably mistaken. Any help?
Edit: I re-read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895 and determined that it can be done without wiping for folks that aren't noobs. I consider myself a noob at this point so I'm stuck with this 4.2.2 update until I find an easier way.
fireknuckles said:
Ok so I realize I don't know how to do this without resetting all data. From what I've read, the only way back includes wiping all data. Am I wrong? Is there a way for me to go back without wiping? I'm not super versed in all things Android but I think I recall flashing back to a previous OTA in the past to get another OTA to work without wiping. I can't find that thread anywhere so I'm probably mistaken. Any help?
Edit: I re-read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895 and determined that it can be done without wiping for folks that aren't noobs. I consider myself a noob at this point so I'm stuck with this 4.2.2 update until I find an easier way.
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It's the same as flashing a rom! Use Titanium backup to backup the apps, and custom recovery to wipe data/factory reset, cache and dalvik cache. Format /system, /data, /cache , and downgrade with the toolkit w/o format when it ask. So for less than an hour you will downgrade, and keep music, videos and photos. So the only thing you lose is programs, but you can restore them whit titanium, and that is!
manumanfred said:
Well I don't understand where do you see the lags. Because I don't have any lags on my nexus.
The speed also depends what kernel you are using and how much free Memory you have on your nexus..
I'm using my own ROM which is based of stock Android ROM and I have actually never experienced any lags.
Yesterday I got few apps after using apple's BT mouse and when I set up multi users.. But all the lags went away when I rebooted.
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Lags what I am talking about is low fps scrolling that appears after some time of normal usage. I've never experienced it on 4.1.2 or 4.2.1. It has nothing to do with the kernel. (BTW aren't we talkin about the stock one?) Problem is still present on custom kernels and even OCed CPU. It looks rather like some sort of memory leak. Reboot or changing wallpaper is a workaround solution for this issue. So yeah if you reboot your device quite often you most probably won't see this bug.
If you want to read more about this issue visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2178962
Except this bug I really like the 4.2.2 rom, these new features. I consider it as an improvement from 4.2.1.
I agree, 4.1.2 was polished more. 4.2.2 is better then the initial 4.2 release, but still has a way to go. We'll see what IO brings soon.
wisefreakz said:
I am 100% stock... My phone flies.. No lags nor bugs or redraws...
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+1
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manumanfred said:
First:
Do a full wipe!
Flash STOCK ANDROID JB 4.2.2 (I mean stock, and not CWM flashable stock ROMs with root..)
Use stock Android launcher (Just stock, not modded or anything else)
And then Stop complaining!
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Yeah i did that 2 weeks ago, and it just got laggy again
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ray3andrei said:
Yeah i did that 2 weeks ago, and it just got laggy again
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Ok.. Hmmm.....
Are you using custom kernel?
And which apps are running in background? E.g. Currents, Google+. FB...
And if you use custom kernel then make sure you use CPU governor that doesn't make Android slower or laggier..
I have actually never had any lags on my Nexus, I use 100% stock kernel, sometimes CM's kernel. I have free memory 2,10 GB of 13 GB (16GB GNex)..
Also I recommend to use some cleaner apps to delete unnecessary files..
For cleaning a bit my Nexus I use "Mobile Care" on Windows it is "ASC"
Which deletes e.g. Cache and junk files..
manumanfred said:
Ok.. Hmmm.....
Are you using custom kernel?
And which apps are running in background? E.g. Currents, Google+. FB...
And if you use custom kernel then make sure you use CPU governor that doesn't make Android slower or laggier..
I have actually never had any lags on my Nexus, I use 100% stock kernel, sometimes CM's kernel. I have free memory 2,10 GB of 13 GB (16GB GNex)..
Also I recommend to use some cleaner apps to delete unnecessary files..
For cleaning a bit my Nexus I use "Mobile Care" on Windows it is "ASC"
Which deletes e.g. Cache and junk files..
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Like i said, i'm 100% stock, and i see a lot of people having these issues as well..
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Lagging & Reloading Launcher

I know that's maybe a noob question but my phone had never been so slow and i don't know why is doing this..
I'm having some serious problem with my phone on every ROM that i try with Jelly Bean. I've tried stock, Linaro, Paranoid Android, Minco...but every rom behave the same. My phone it's really slow, can't load anything without lagging. I've also tried different kernel, obviously. I've made a video to explain this behaviour.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48V93aSq9Z0
I don't know if it's just an old phone that needs to be replaced by the new nexus but..i remember that i was doing great with Jelly Bean; about that time i remember that i was surprised for performance improvements after ICS. I've tried to cut of all the sync applications (Currents first of all..) and tried to reduce apps to a minimum but i still got this lag. It's very annoying cause it happens every 5 mintues and i can barely use my phone.
You probably have a ****load of services running.
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Actually for some reason I have been experiencing the same thing the past couple days and I watch my running services and apps like a hawk.
Nothing unusual, installed an app or two in that time frame and uninstalled again - nothing changed.
Looked at BBS logs and also nothing out of the ordinary. Something funky is going on for sure.
I am still convinced there is a memory leak in the UI somewhere since my "free memory" after a few days dwindles down to sometimes even under 100MB which I feel uncomfortable with.
After a fresh restart it sits over 300MB free and before this lag became more apparent it would always tune in around 200MB after a few days.
Now I restart every day, sometimes more than once a day just keep performance somewhat decent.
There's a memory leak in 4.2.x. Unless you restart your phone daily you'll get it. Try a 4.1.2 rom, it's Jellybean, but quick again.
no leaks here 4.2.2 axiom and rootbox
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There's a memory leak in 4.2.x. Unless you restart your phone daily you'll get it. Try a 4.1.2 rom, it's Jellybean, but quick again.
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Rebooting the phone twice in a day fixed this issue for me , Also an Startup manager app to unload all **** apps that eats the ram
yep, i think that everyone is experiencing lag on 4.2.x roms... JB had never been so fast like 4.1...
There are plenty of thread with people complaining about this
guidocioni said:
yep, i think that everyone is experiencing lag on 4.2.x roms... JB had never been so fast like 4.1...
There are plenty of thread with people complaining about this
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not me
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Resolution of the video in first post is huge
On topic. Seems like you have too much apps and proceses running at the same time.
Try reflashing your ROM and kernel, and start using Greenify for example
Godra said:
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Resolution of the video in first post is huge
On topic. Seems like you have too much apps and proceses running at the same time.
Try reflashing your ROM and kernel, and start using Greenify for example
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O_0 ! ! 0_o!
Godra said:
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Resolution of the video in first post is huge
On topic. Seems like you have too much apps and proceses running at the same time.
Try reflashing your ROM and kernel, and start using Greenify for example
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This.
Try greenify. Greenify some apps that are taking a lot of ram. If you have Facebook make sure you greenify that. It takes a hell lotta memory
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Is the GNex, seriously, this slow?

I’ve had the GNex since the day it came out. Unlocked bootloader, flashed a new rom and did everything from there.
I’ve noticed that with every new nightly build, there was always a bug here and there which made it felt like this phone was never really solid.
Don’t get me wrong. I love this phone and it has served me well.
Recently, I bought the nexus 5 for my wife. Instantly, it felt a billion times faster right out of the box compared to my custom GNex.
It got me thinking, was the GNex always been THIS SLOW and LAGGY? Or is it the wrong ROM I’ve been using all this time? I’ve went from PA to AOKP to Slim and now Liquid. I’ve used the latest Kitkat on all and there’s ALWAYS this super bad lag after using it for a few days.
It got to the point where I did a FULL DATA WIPE on every new nightly that came out.
I’ve always done the following when installing a new ROM:
1. Wipe Data
2. Wipe cache
3. Wipe dalvik
4. Reboot into recovery again. Repeat 1-3 then install new ROM, then gapps.
5. Reboot phone one last time to finalize.
The new ROM always feels smooth/fast in the beginning, but after a while, it feels like $H*t.
I've also tried this with different combination of kernels such as Franco, Dirty V and with ART enable and disabled.
Any difference is negligible and doesn't seem to vastly improve performance.
I don’t have many apps. In fact, 95% of the apps I use are google apps (gmail, etc) Then I have pandora, evernote and a couple of other productive apps and that’s about it.
So what’s really slowing down my GNex? Too many flashes in the past 2-years? Bad ROM? Bad installation?
Or has it always been like this and I just haven’t noticed how slow/laggy it was?
Your help would be appreciated. I really don’t want to jump onto a new phone quite yet.
First of all dont even try to compare it to the Nexus 5. Its just a newer phone.. Of course its faster. My phone is flying. Things age over time. Soaybe your device is just aging. And with the right kernel and settings you can make your phone really fast. I never had lag but I had faster and slower roms or kernels.. Its what you make of it and what you think is lag..
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mrgnex said:
First of all dont even try to compare it to the Nexus 5. Its just a newer phone.. Of course its faster. My phone is flying. Things age over time. Soaybe your device is just aging. And with the right kernel and settings you can make your phone really fast. I never had lag but I had faster and slower roms or kernels.. Its what you make of it and what you think is lag..
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In that case, please share your every details. I'd love to try them out and give new life to my GNex.
Which ROM, which kernel, performance, every main settings etc...
Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 5 are just different generations of the family, they ought to have differences. In my opinion, no matter how you optimize our Galaxy Nexus, it can run nicely, the animations can be mostly smooth, but it just couldn't catch up to a Nexus 5, mostly in apps' loading speed and other things that requires sheer CPU power. Sure, it doesn't even catch up to my properly optimized Nexus 4.
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nexus 5 is best...
GNex 5 is not comparable to Nexus 5.I have tried GNex earlier and i am quite dissatisfied from it.Now i switched to Nexus 5 and there no hanging problem in nexus 5 at all and provide good memory usage.
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In that case, please share your every details. I'd love to try them out and give new life to my GNex.
Which ROM, which kernel, performance, every main settings etc...
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Have you gave Vanir a try? If you haven't already well maybe you should because this is by far the smoothest/fastest ROM available for the Gnex. It may lag here and there but it is certainly tolerable given that this a 2+ year old phone.
Comparing the gnex to any current flagship phone is kind of silly considering they all contain the latest and greatest in CPU's/GPU's + more ram . So obviously there will be significant differences in terms of performance...not sure why you would expect anything else.
Give vanir a try and see if your Gnex runs a little better. PA AOKP and CM11 are noticeably laggier than Vanir...don't know why but they just are. If Vanir doesn't make your Gnex experience any better well just deal with it until you buy a new phone.
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In that case, please share your every details. I'd love to try them out and give new life to my GNex.
Which ROM, which kernel, performance, every main settings etc...
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Vanir with dirtyv/askp/askpremix (what i feel like lol) and nephs settings..
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It's just that I don't recall the phone being THIS SLOW compared last year or a few months ago when JB was around.
It definitely feels so much more laggier these days.
Has it been a global change in all the ROMs that infected all gnex roms?
Compared to newer phones our Galaxy Nexus is slower i think. I got my Mum the Motorola Moto G and it does seem a lot more responsive than my Galaxy Nexus running the CM11 M4 Build.
However i do have a lot of apps running in the background such as Facebook, WhatsApp, Push Email and so on, the Moto G was a fresh phone with nothing on.
I do feel the Galaxy Nexus is significantly faster with a 4.4 rom, compared to 4.3 or 4.2, however its not as snappy as a newer device, which considering the phone is 2 and a half years old i dont think you can expect it to be.
I think also apps get more demanding, i mean WhatsApp is getting huge now and using more ram, as are other apps you likely use on a daily basis.
I dont have lag.. Maybe you can share your setup/settings with us? And the Moto G is a newer phone with F2FS this makes it faster.. Also please dont use the facebook app. It slows your device and eats battery and ram. Probably all developers here will tell you the app should be banned from google play.
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Here's a list of exactly all the apps on my phone right now:
Stock browser
Stock calculator
Stock calendar
Stock camera
Stock Clock
Stock Document
Stock Downloads
Stock Gallery
Stock Messaging
Stock news/weather
Stock People
Stock Phone
Stock voice dialer
Google Chrome browser
Google Chrome to Phone
Google Drive
Google Gmail
Google
Google Settings
Google Play Music
Google Play store
Google Voice
Liquid Explorer (Came with liquid smooth)
"music" (Came with Liquid smooth)
Omniswitch (Came with LS)
Torch (came with LS)
Dropbox
Netflix
Pandora
Settings
Stocks
I Bolded the ones I use heavily on a daily basis. The rest of them I barely touch.
You'll see that I use VERY little apps, but somehow my GNEX feels like its LAGGY!
I will honestly say I heavily use Google Chrome Browser 85% of the time on my phone. I like to open up 3-4 tabs at one. But this couldnt possibly be the sole reason why my phone is SO LAGGY!
lemonspeakers said:
Here's a list of exactly all the apps on my phone right now:
Stock browser
Stock calculator
Stock calendar
Stock camera
Stock Clock
Stock Document
Stock Downloads
Stock Gallery
Stock Messaging
Stock news/weather
Stock People
Stock Phone
Stock voice dialer
Google Chrome browser
Google Chrome to Phone
Google Drive
Google Gmail
Google
Google Settings
Google Play Music
Google Play store
Google Voice
Liquid Explorer (Came with liquid smooth)
"music" (Came with Liquid smooth)
Omniswitch (Came with LS)
Torch (came with LS)
Dropbox
Netflix
Pandora
Settings
Stocks
I Bolded the ones I use heavily on a daily basis. The rest of them I barely touch.
You'll see that I use VERY little apps, but somehow my GNEX feels like its LAGGY!
I will honestly say I heavily use Google Chrome Browser 85% of the time on my phone. I like to open up 3-4 tabs at one. But this couldnt possibly be the sole reason why my phone is SO LAGGY!
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What kernel you use?
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What kernel you use?
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Stock Liquid smooth rom and stock kernel.
I've tried this rom with dirty v and franco and they seem to lag the phone so I stayed with stock everything. Please note that I have tried this rom with both those kernels WITH ART enabled and disabled. Each time with a FULL data wipe.
lemonspeakers said:
Stock Liquid smooth rom and stock kernel.
I've tried this rom with dirty v and franco and they seem to lag the phone so I stayed with stock everything. Please note that I have tried this rom with both those kernels WITH ART enabled and disabled. Each time with a FULL data wipe.
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That's weird. I'm using LS as well paired with DirtyV and it runs just fine. I mean, it's not perfect but I would say it's fast as Android 4.1 was. And I'm using ART
How much of free storage you have?
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I agree with all of these guys about what they are saying but I heard nothing but good things about the gnex. Maybe your doing something wrong with it?
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P R O said:
I agree with all of these guys about what they are saying but I heard nothing but good things about the gnex. Maybe your doing something wrong with it?
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I've noticed that my navigation bar always consists of 5 items: Google Now, Back, Home, Recents and Last app.
I used those very frequently. To each one of those, I've also assigned a long press action to them: Bookmark#1, #2, Voice Command, Calculator and app drawer.
My nav ring has 5 item as well, with each their own long press.
I tend to launch each app not using the recents button, but rather the shortcuts that I've assigned them. That way, all apps I frequently access is only a single press or swipe away. The more buttons I press, the more I am annoyed.
^^ Could this be the reason why my phone laggs so much?
My ram shows that I have 176MB using dirty V RSR. And less )~60MB) with the others. But regardless, 176MB still feels like 60MB. Laggg..
mrgnex said:
Vanir with dirtyv/askp/askpremix (what i feel like lol) and nephs settings..
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OMG! Latest Vanir with ASKP Chamber of secrets is amazing!
My GNex now feels like a whole new phone. It's just flying! OMG!
OHHHHH MMMMYYYYGOOOOODDDNEESS! I love it so far.
So far I've tried to lag it by doing my daily stuff and so far, no laggs like I see on AOKP, PA, Liquid smooth or ASOB.
Something must be wrong with those other roms.
I'm going to keep playing with this rom and see how it turns out.
Goodness sake.
1. If you compare the Galaxy Nexus with the Nexus 5, you're trying to compare a ferrari 599 GTO with a Ferrari 360 spyder. -_- dafuq.
Yes spyder is fast, but the freaking technology advanced by 3 years.
2. Performance is not completely comprimised. It's by how much you make the ROM lean, and how efficient each custom kernel runs on your device.
3. Make sure the KERNEL you use has the optimizations you want.
Cheers.
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Amperific said:
2. Performance is not completely comprimised. It's by how much you make the ROM lean, and how efficient each custom kernel runs on your device.
3. Make sure the KERNEL you use has the optimizations you want.
Cheers.
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I've noticed the most lag when I use the Google Chrome Browser.
I tend to always have at lest 2 tabs going.
What kernel or kernel optimization should I be looking for in order to maximize the Galaxy Nexus for this particular task?
I started using Chrome Beta instead of regular Chrome few weeks ago. For me, it feels a liitle smoother
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