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[Q] PARANOIDANDROID 3.15 [Toro] 25-MAR-2013 Stability Issues

I just recently flashed my Verizon Galaxy Nexus with PARANOIDANDROID 3.15 [Toro] 25-MAR-2013
I love this rom, but unfortunately, I've been getting random reboots, and numerous freezes, which require removing the battery. I get these freezes, and have to remove the battery 4 to 5 times a day (which gets old as you imagine). I just came from a stock JB 4.1.1 Verizon Rom, but have used CM10 and CodenameAndroid ROMS in the past with success.
I'm using TWRP v2.4.1.0. and flashed pa_gapps-full-4.2-20130308.zip along with the PA 3.15 zip (I downloaded both zips from goo.im). I did a factory reset , and cleared the dalvik / cache.
I've done some googling, but haven't found any answers. in all the forums that I have read, people have had no stability issues with this ROM. I really want to stick with this rom, but may be forced to go back to stock if I can't get this rom to run stable.
Any help from the dev community would be much appreciated!

I have had similar problems when expanded desktop and pie are on. I just gave up on them. Runs fine for me as long as pie isn't activated. It's a shame, but a clean install and full wipe never fixed the issues here either. That's just my experience.
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bpyazel said:
I have had similar problems when expanded desktop and pie are on. I just gave up on them. Runs fine for me as long as pie isn't activated. It's a shame, but a clean install and full wipe never fixed the issues here either. That's just my experience.
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Thanks for the reply! I've been having issues even w/o expanded desktop or pie enabled.
What I really like about this rom is the ability to change the resolution in individual apps specifically the browser, (I have a website I need to access for my work that requires a higher res).
I wonder if I was to use an older version of this rom, like the 2.99's, and not have the same freezing issues?
Does anyone have experiences with the older ParanoidAndroid (toro) ROMS?

I'm getting horrible battery life
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I have problem in SMS , sometime I cannot send but I can receive, and sometime I can send but missing many incoming messages.

I'm having the same problems with the 3.15-15APR version as well (latest). It tends to happen when apps try to update - they'll get to the install part and then the phone locks up & requires a battery pull to recover. I'm going to try a factory reset and if that doesn't work I'm off to another ROM - I've been on PA for several months, but I can't accept instability to the point that my phone may lock up in my pocket and I'll never know until I try and can't use it.
Edit: I've had tentative success with wiping data from the app manager from Download Manager and the Play Store, which has allowed me to update apps, but I'm crossing my fingers that I won't see any more freezes...

Weird notification drawer lag on any 4.4 based ROM

I have this really weird lag when I'm on ANY 4.4 based ROM no matter what kernel or gapps package I use. So I install the ROM and its all great but I start travelling and after sometime the notification drawer is all laggy and stuttering like never before. I thought it could be a GPS issue and tried disabling wifi, gps and mobile data but no luck, I also tried clearing app cache, doing a clean wipe and reinstalling ROM, trying almost every 4.4 based ROM out there. All I did was do a Clean install (factory reset, wipe dalvik, cache, system) from TWRP 2.6.3.2, configure the accounts, install superSU from playstore and update binaries, install TiBackup and restore user apps with data. It was still smooth until I leave work/home/travel somewhere. Anyone else facing this issue? Other than this weird lag, the UI is buttery smooth (no lags on homescreen, app drawer, opening and closing apps, etc) and even the RAM usage is quite low (<300MB). I cant seem to figure out what could be causing this. Please help me.
PS: the notification drawer lags ONLY when there are no notifications or when there is a permanent notification. When I get a dismissable notification it doesnt resemble any lag at all!
Thanks.

Is it only with 4.4 ROM's?

isajoo said:
Is it only with 4.4 ROM's?
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Yes.

the phone is pooping itself because Google messed it up

droidnxs said:
It was still smooth until I leave work/home/travel somewhere.
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Me too (latest Cm11 nightly + Mpokang 1080p + Nephilim's settings)!!
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Shambola said:
Me too (latest Cm11 nightly + Mpokang 1080p + Nephilim's settings)!!
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Know that feel bro. If you run into any solution please post here or PM me. If this gets fixed it'll be the best thing to ever happen for our GNex. :fingers-crossed:

i'm on the 12-16 Nightly on CM 11 and i dont have any problems or lag ill keep you updated as i start to add apps and tweaks

GalaxySubie said:
i'm on the 12-16 Nightly on CM 11 and i dont have any problems or lag ill keep you updated as i start to add apps and tweaks
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I'm also on a recent nightly, and although I don't *feel* any disturbing stutter in notification drawer, it isn't quite as smooth as what's on my Nex4. Now, as the OP has hinted, I tried getting a dismissable notification in the drawer and boom, the drawer is suddenly as smooth as hell - but only for seconds. Wondering why...
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I have loaded app and stuff and i still have not seen any sort of lag.
When you are flashing are you wiping the device correctly it may still have files that will slow it down.
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GalaxySubie said:
I have loaded app and stuff and i still have not seen any sort of lag.
When you are flashing are you wiping the device correctly it may still have files that will slow it down.
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I do a clean flash as I stated previously. Factory Reset, Wipe dalvik cache, system, cache, Flash ROM, Gapps (dhacker29's latest), and reboot. Since I use TiBackup to restore, I also download SuperSU from playstore just to update binaries and make TiB work, I uninstall superSU after that and use the built-in superuser app.

I got that problem too!firstly i thought i was a bluetooth issue as i turn on the bluetooth and the notification drawer become laggy.but after a while i found it laggy continually even if i turn off the bluetooth.it's really a annoying thing

geekbrain said:
I got that problem too!firstly i thought i was a bluetooth issue as i turn on the bluetooth and the notification drawer become laggy.but after a while i found it laggy continually even if i turn off the bluetooth.it's really a annoying thing
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I know right? Once I disabled Wifi optimization as it was on, and it got smooth again, but that wasn't the end. I went to work and pulled out my phone, and boom, its all laggy and stuttering again. A few hours back I gave KitKat another shot but this time it was laggy even after the clean install without any apps restored. This is the weirdest thing to ever happen to my GNex. Now I'm back on AOKP 4.3.1 M1 with Tiny Kernel 5.4 with the smoothest android experience ever. Let's wait for the developers to take a look into this issue. :fingers-crossed:

Okay I think I found a solution. I tried 5 use-cases:
Flash method: Clean - Factory reset, wipe dalvik cache & cache, wipe ROM, flash ROM, gapps
1. CM11 ROM with built-in kernel
2. CM11 ROM with Tiny 5.4 kernel
3. CM11 ROM with built-in kernel
4. CM10.2.0 (stable) ROM with built-in kernel
5. CM10.2.0 (stable) ROM with Tiny 5.4 kernel
I noted that when I did not flash a 3rd party kernel the issue seemed to persist even at first start-up. But when I flashed a 3rd party kernel (be it any compatible kernel) there was absolutely no lag at all. But then the question of why I tested it on CM10.2 ROM is because I found the same notification drawer lag on CM10.2 (official) ROM. Maybe this started after the ram-disk was changed? (I'll leave that for the developers to decide).
Note: I'm currently on Gummy 21-12-13 build with Tiny 5.4 kernel, ART enabled. When I started off to work today I wanted to switch to 3G and when I did so the lag was back, but after it found a signal tower it disappeared. I have found no lag so far.
Something off-topic : But commonly throughout these tests, I found that these ROM's exhibited terrible lag when using live wallpaper.
If someone (facing the same issue as stated in the OP) can confirm that the above solution works, it will help alleviate the problem.
Edit: Also found in tricksterMOD that the deep-sleep mode was in the 'unused states' category.

Bump
Okay I guess the problem hasn't been quite solved yet, bumping so people can have a look at this.
Update:
In the recent builds notification drawer lags only when I'm not on Wifi no matter what KK ROM+Kernel combo I try.

droidnxs said:
Okay I guess the problem hasn't been quite solved yet, bumping so people can have a look at this.
Update:
In the recent builds notification drawer lags only when I'm not on Wifi no matter what KK ROM+Kernel combo I try.
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I'm on CM11 with Fancy kernel. I also see the lag when not on wifi. It really has not bothered me. The KK ROMs are still fairly new, so I would just give it some time.
Break me off a piece of that Kit-Kat ROM!

TheMan0790 said:
I'm on CM11 with Fancy kernel. I also see the lag when not on wifi. It really has not bothered me. The KK ROMs are still fairly new, so I would just give it some time.
Break me off a piece of that Kit-Kat ROM!
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I just wanted to confirm if it was really a bug or something that was specific to my phone. That confirmed the former, thanks!

Just wanted to add my thoughts on this. Are you guys using the Google Experience launcher with the "Ok Google" Hotword Detection? If so, turn off the hotword detection in settings. After doing that, I get no lag whatsoever in my notification drawer. I didnt use that feature that much anyway.

Still no dice on this issue? Not intentionally bumping, but I think this issue might have a deeper cause that requires more attention from devs.
I've read through the "suggestions" above and I can say that nothing works. What I have is a VERY clean CM11 + Franco r395 - no Gapps, no Google Experience Launcher, no Google Now (Google Search is force stopped and its shortcut removed), very few installed apps, no background apps except for input method, lots of free RAM (~520MB), yet this still happens. Only thing that removes the lag temporarily is an incoming notification, which only makes it smooth for seconds.
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Okay, tried many JB ROMs and they all don't have the lag. Try one of the KK ROMs and they come back immediately. Something with KK source?
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One more update: flashed latest CyanogenMod nightly (CM11 20140325) and I surprisingly discovered that the notif lag is gone. Turns out I'm wrong, as the lag is gone only in lockscreen and Trebuchet. However, on second thought, does this phenomenon mean that CM/Trebuchet recently implemented something that potentially removes the lag? What patch is it exactly, and why isn't it applied on other apps?
I still think that this "simple and bearable" problem has a darker side that requires more attention.
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Kitkat vs jellybean

Anyone else think the supposed improvements of KK are more snake oil than anything??
The difference between ics and JB is astounding.
But I've yet to see the same with KK. There's a new theme, which frankly sucks (subjective) .
I haven't seen the supposed improvements in ram.
Or the improved battery life with audio playback.
I'm well aware that many improvements are under the hood, and sure they might be significant, but to ME, the end user, I simply don't see them.
I think I noticed a bigger difference with 4.2.
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I do agree to some extent but in reality we are always limited by the hardware we have - that will not change. Also, due to the fact we're stuck on a 3.1 kernel, perhaps we are not seeing all the benefits we could.
To me, the jump to Ice Cream Sandwich where we finally got 2d graphics acceleration was the last major, major jump. Everything since (as a .x update) has been a minor evolution. Let's see what Android 5.x brings!

drivenby said:
Anyone else think the supposed improvements of KK are more snake oil than anything??
The difference between ics and JB is astounding.
But I've yet to see the same with KK. There's a new theme, which frankly sucks (subjective) .
I haven't seen the supposed improvements in ram.
Or the improved battery life with audio playback.
I'm well aware that many improvements are under the hood, and sure they might be significant, but to ME, the end user, I simply don't see them.
I think I noticed a bigger difference with 4.2.
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its much less about JB vs KK, but more about Dalvik vs ART.
when you run cm 11 on ART it is much smoother and apps run much faster.

treebill said:
its much less about JB vs KK, but more about Dalvik vs ART.
when you run cm 11 on ART it is much smoother and apps run much faster.
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Yeah but ART is in the initial stages.. i enabled it and it worked fine for like one hour or so and then things started getting f****d up... finally had to disable it. and when the phone was back to dalvik, touch froze... ended up formatting it to get it back working.. otherwise the screen worked at every reboot until i turned the screen off

Khizar Amin said:
Yeah but ART is in the initial stages.. i enabled it and it worked fine for like one hour or so and then things started getting f****d up... finally had to disable it. and when the phone was back to dalvik, touch froze... ended up formatting it to get it back working.. otherwise the screen worked at every reboot until i turned the screen off
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I am running ART on CM 11, with no problems at all.
make sure you get art compatable gapps, i get mine from Here, i use the micro gapps but any will do.

treebill said:
I am running ART on CM 11, with no problems at all.
make sure you get art compatable gapps, i get mine from Here, i use the micro gapps but any will do.
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I am using the stock google package from the same thread... If my gapps were incorrect, my phone would not have booted up in the first place.

Khizar Amin said:
I am using the stock google package from the same thread... If my gapps were incorrect, my phone would not have booted up in the first place.
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he meant for ART you have the wrong...there are packages just for dalvik and also some which are supporting both runtimes, dalvik AND ART ...i personally use them from paranoidandroid...the PA -gapps are great and it has the real stock google experience launcher

Here is my experience with pure Kitkat as a stock or AOSP ROMs on Nexus 7 2013 . As stock ROMs comes with a very different launcher than the one that comes with AOSP which is nearly the same as the experience launcher on Nexus5
The stock nexus 7 3013 kitkat launcher comes with no transparency at drawer . Nav bar or status bar . While the experience launcher is nearly transparent at every part of
But when it comes to my choice I would go with the old looking stock one . The new way that experience launcher looks is so damn ugly . Really . Even the new icons design is awful . . Im so gald they kept the jelly bean look at Kitkat for nexus 7 2013 . Everutime I go for AOSP ROM I go back right into any if the stock ROMS
ITS just my own opinion .
Also They managed great to get the new wallpapers to look bad
Something else about experience launcher . I don't like the idea of the Rlauncher or rom to control the way I number and arrange my homescreens . And placing Google now on the far right is an awful decision . Using the ring to pick it is much more convenient and faster
Just to say I really love they kept the old launcher for KITKAT ON MY nexus 7 1013
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I really miss a dev team that would push it forward hard. You know something like the pa team but with amazing design choices and functionality. I get so bored using the same usage pattern of the android system for so long. I want something new a new direction of making usage easier and not just voice control which is on all the time. There is nothing new since 4.0. They could at least fix multitasking...
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One-X-master said:
he meant for ART you have the wrong...there are packages just for dalvik and also some which are supporting both runtimes, dalvik AND ART ...i personally use them from paranoidandroid...the PA -gapps are great and it has the real stock google experience launcher
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You got it wrong. i meant the same. the earlier gapps for CM11 had 2 versions one with art support and one without and if you were using the gapps without art support and enabled art, the phone wont boot up.
Edit: and i am also using the PA gapps.

battery life seems to be much better than any aosp rom before kk...this is an ARTeffect

I would say the new sources play a part to
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Is the GNex, seriously, this slow?

I’ve had the GNex since the day it came out. Unlocked bootloader, flashed a new rom and did everything from there.
I’ve noticed that with every new nightly build, there was always a bug here and there which made it felt like this phone was never really solid.
Don’t get me wrong. I love this phone and it has served me well.
Recently, I bought the nexus 5 for my wife. Instantly, it felt a billion times faster right out of the box compared to my custom GNex.
It got me thinking, was the GNex always been THIS SLOW and LAGGY? Or is it the wrong ROM I’ve been using all this time? I’ve went from PA to AOKP to Slim and now Liquid. I’ve used the latest Kitkat on all and there’s ALWAYS this super bad lag after using it for a few days.
It got to the point where I did a FULL DATA WIPE on every new nightly that came out.
I’ve always done the following when installing a new ROM:
1. Wipe Data
2. Wipe cache
3. Wipe dalvik
4. Reboot into recovery again. Repeat 1-3 then install new ROM, then gapps.
5. Reboot phone one last time to finalize.
The new ROM always feels smooth/fast in the beginning, but after a while, it feels like $H*t.
I've also tried this with different combination of kernels such as Franco, Dirty V and with ART enable and disabled.
Any difference is negligible and doesn't seem to vastly improve performance.
I don’t have many apps. In fact, 95% of the apps I use are google apps (gmail, etc) Then I have pandora, evernote and a couple of other productive apps and that’s about it.
So what’s really slowing down my GNex? Too many flashes in the past 2-years? Bad ROM? Bad installation?
Or has it always been like this and I just haven’t noticed how slow/laggy it was?
Your help would be appreciated. I really don’t want to jump onto a new phone quite yet.

First of all dont even try to compare it to the Nexus 5. Its just a newer phone.. Of course its faster. My phone is flying. Things age over time. Soaybe your device is just aging. And with the right kernel and settings you can make your phone really fast. I never had lag but I had faster and slower roms or kernels.. Its what you make of it and what you think is lag..
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First of all dont even try to compare it to the Nexus 5. Its just a newer phone.. Of course its faster. My phone is flying. Things age over time. Soaybe your device is just aging. And with the right kernel and settings you can make your phone really fast. I never had lag but I had faster and slower roms or kernels.. Its what you make of it and what you think is lag..
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In that case, please share your every details. I'd love to try them out and give new life to my GNex.
Which ROM, which kernel, performance, every main settings etc...

Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 5 are just different generations of the family, they ought to have differences. In my opinion, no matter how you optimize our Galaxy Nexus, it can run nicely, the animations can be mostly smooth, but it just couldn't catch up to a Nexus 5, mostly in apps' loading speed and other things that requires sheer CPU power. Sure, it doesn't even catch up to my properly optimized Nexus 4.
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nexus 5 is best...
GNex 5 is not comparable to Nexus 5.I have tried GNex earlier and i am quite dissatisfied from it.Now i switched to Nexus 5 and there no hanging problem in nexus 5 at all and provide good memory usage.

lemonspeakers said:
In that case, please share your every details. I'd love to try them out and give new life to my GNex.
Which ROM, which kernel, performance, every main settings etc...
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Have you gave Vanir a try? If you haven't already well maybe you should because this is by far the smoothest/fastest ROM available for the Gnex. It may lag here and there but it is certainly tolerable given that this a 2+ year old phone.
Comparing the gnex to any current flagship phone is kind of silly considering they all contain the latest and greatest in CPU's/GPU's + more ram . So obviously there will be significant differences in terms of performance...not sure why you would expect anything else.
Give vanir a try and see if your Gnex runs a little better. PA AOKP and CM11 are noticeably laggier than Vanir...don't know why but they just are. If Vanir doesn't make your Gnex experience any better well just deal with it until you buy a new phone.

lemonspeakers said:
In that case, please share your every details. I'd love to try them out and give new life to my GNex.
Which ROM, which kernel, performance, every main settings etc...
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Vanir with dirtyv/askp/askpremix (what i feel like lol) and nephs settings..
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It's just that I don't recall the phone being THIS SLOW compared last year or a few months ago when JB was around.
It definitely feels so much more laggier these days.
Has it been a global change in all the ROMs that infected all gnex roms?

Compared to newer phones our Galaxy Nexus is slower i think. I got my Mum the Motorola Moto G and it does seem a lot more responsive than my Galaxy Nexus running the CM11 M4 Build.
However i do have a lot of apps running in the background such as Facebook, WhatsApp, Push Email and so on, the Moto G was a fresh phone with nothing on.
I do feel the Galaxy Nexus is significantly faster with a 4.4 rom, compared to 4.3 or 4.2, however its not as snappy as a newer device, which considering the phone is 2 and a half years old i dont think you can expect it to be.
I think also apps get more demanding, i mean WhatsApp is getting huge now and using more ram, as are other apps you likely use on a daily basis.

I dont have lag.. Maybe you can share your setup/settings with us? And the Moto G is a newer phone with F2FS this makes it faster.. Also please dont use the facebook app. It slows your device and eats battery and ram. Probably all developers here will tell you the app should be banned from google play.
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Here's a list of exactly all the apps on my phone right now:
Stock browser
Stock calculator
Stock calendar
Stock camera
Stock Clock
Stock Document
Stock Downloads
Stock Gallery
Stock Messaging
Stock news/weather
Stock People
Stock Phone
Stock voice dialer
Google Chrome browser
Google Chrome to Phone
Google Drive
Google Gmail
Google
Google Settings
Google Play Music
Google Play store
Google Voice
Liquid Explorer (Came with liquid smooth)
"music" (Came with Liquid smooth)
Omniswitch (Came with LS)
Torch (came with LS)
Dropbox
Netflix
Pandora
Settings
Stocks
I Bolded the ones I use heavily on a daily basis. The rest of them I barely touch.
You'll see that I use VERY little apps, but somehow my GNEX feels like its LAGGY!
I will honestly say I heavily use Google Chrome Browser 85% of the time on my phone. I like to open up 3-4 tabs at one. But this couldnt possibly be the sole reason why my phone is SO LAGGY!

lemonspeakers said:
Here's a list of exactly all the apps on my phone right now:
Stock browser
Stock calculator
Stock calendar
Stock camera
Stock Clock
Stock Document
Stock Downloads
Stock Gallery
Stock Messaging
Stock news/weather
Stock People
Stock Phone
Stock voice dialer
Google Chrome browser
Google Chrome to Phone
Google Drive
Google Gmail
Google
Google Settings
Google Play Music
Google Play store
Google Voice
Liquid Explorer (Came with liquid smooth)
"music" (Came with Liquid smooth)
Omniswitch (Came with LS)
Torch (came with LS)
Dropbox
Netflix
Pandora
Settings
Stocks
I Bolded the ones I use heavily on a daily basis. The rest of them I barely touch.
You'll see that I use VERY little apps, but somehow my GNEX feels like its LAGGY!
I will honestly say I heavily use Google Chrome Browser 85% of the time on my phone. I like to open up 3-4 tabs at one. But this couldnt possibly be the sole reason why my phone is SO LAGGY!
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What kernel you use?
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What kernel you use?
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Stock Liquid smooth rom and stock kernel.
I've tried this rom with dirty v and franco and they seem to lag the phone so I stayed with stock everything. Please note that I have tried this rom with both those kernels WITH ART enabled and disabled. Each time with a FULL data wipe.

lemonspeakers said:
Stock Liquid smooth rom and stock kernel.
I've tried this rom with dirty v and franco and they seem to lag the phone so I stayed with stock everything. Please note that I have tried this rom with both those kernels WITH ART enabled and disabled. Each time with a FULL data wipe.
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That's weird. I'm using LS as well paired with DirtyV and it runs just fine. I mean, it's not perfect but I would say it's fast as Android 4.1 was. And I'm using ART
How much of free storage you have?
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I agree with all of these guys about what they are saying but I heard nothing but good things about the gnex. Maybe your doing something wrong with it?
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P R O said:
I agree with all of these guys about what they are saying but I heard nothing but good things about the gnex. Maybe your doing something wrong with it?
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I've noticed that my navigation bar always consists of 5 items: Google Now, Back, Home, Recents and Last app.
I used those very frequently. To each one of those, I've also assigned a long press action to them: Bookmark#1, #2, Voice Command, Calculator and app drawer.
My nav ring has 5 item as well, with each their own long press.
I tend to launch each app not using the recents button, but rather the shortcuts that I've assigned them. That way, all apps I frequently access is only a single press or swipe away. The more buttons I press, the more I am annoyed.
^^ Could this be the reason why my phone laggs so much?
My ram shows that I have 176MB using dirty V RSR. And less )~60MB) with the others. But regardless, 176MB still feels like 60MB. Laggg..

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Vanir with dirtyv/askp/askpremix (what i feel like lol) and nephs settings..
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OMG! Latest Vanir with ASKP Chamber of secrets is amazing!
My GNex now feels like a whole new phone. It's just flying! OMG!
OHHHHH MMMMYYYYGOOOOODDDNEESS! I love it so far.
So far I've tried to lag it by doing my daily stuff and so far, no laggs like I see on AOKP, PA, Liquid smooth or ASOB.
Something must be wrong with those other roms.
I'm going to keep playing with this rom and see how it turns out.

Goodness sake.
1. If you compare the Galaxy Nexus with the Nexus 5, you're trying to compare a ferrari 599 GTO with a Ferrari 360 spyder. -_- dafuq.
Yes spyder is fast, but the freaking technology advanced by 3 years.
2. Performance is not completely comprimised. It's by how much you make the ROM lean, and how efficient each custom kernel runs on your device.
3. Make sure the KERNEL you use has the optimizations you want.
Cheers.
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Amperific said:
2. Performance is not completely comprimised. It's by how much you make the ROM lean, and how efficient each custom kernel runs on your device.
3. Make sure the KERNEL you use has the optimizations you want.
Cheers.
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I've noticed the most lag when I use the Google Chrome Browser.
I tend to always have at lest 2 tabs going.
What kernel or kernel optimization should I be looking for in order to maximize the Galaxy Nexus for this particular task?

I started using Chrome Beta instead of regular Chrome few weeks ago. For me, it feels a liitle smoother
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Still on 4.1.2

Anyone else still this far back? I'm on Eclipse 412. I want to upgrade, but I've never found a rom that works as well. Tried some of the 4.2 and 4.4 but haven't found a good one yet. Didn't try any 4.3 for some reason. I just keep going back to 412, but Google services don't work on it and I'm sick of seeing that pop up on some apps. Though I'm wondering if maybe that's a good thing since I hear a lot abt Google services killing battery and stuff.
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eclipse 4.1.2 was one of the best setups I've ever ran on this device. I've considered going back to it recently even, not sure what you mean about Google play services not working on it?

Google now doesn't work for example. I'll get a message saying "Google services cannot run on this device"
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cnoevl21 said:
Google now doesn't work for example. I'll get a message saying "Google services cannot run on this device"
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Must be only that ROM related issue.
Everything works fine with the PA 4.1.2 ROM I've still been running for 18+ months, but I did have some temporary Google issues from using a black theme, uninstalled theme and it was back to normal.
Test it out here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/rom-maguro-toro-toroplus-t1892214

isajoo said:
Must be only that ROM related issue.
Everything works fine with the PA 4.1.2 ROM I've still been running for 18+ months, but I did have some temporary Google issues from using a black theme, uninstalled theme and it was back to normal.
Test it out here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/rom-maguro-toro-toroplus-t1892214
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time to upgrade to 4.3/4.4. they're better than 4.1.2 for sure. 4.3 is more fluid for sure. Try the stock 4.3 rom or purity 4.3 + franco. you won't be disappointed.

hp13 said:
time to upgrade to 4.3/4.4. they're BETTER than 4.1.2 for sure. 4.3 is more fluid for sure. Try the stock 4.3 rom or purity 4.3 + franco. you won't be disappointed.
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BETTER in what way exactly?
Cause I've tested all the 4.2/4.3/4.4 ROM's and nothing seems to work any BETTER than 4.1.2 for my needs, which for me is too have as many possible controls/functions available from touching the lower half of the screen, w/out having to sacrifice any screen space for status/navi bars and while holding it w/1 hand only using thumb, be it for any quick settings or launching/switching/closing apps or typing or turning the screen on/off/unlocked.
Extended desktop in 240dpi tablet mode helps too.

isajoo said:
BETTER in what way exactly?
Cause I've tested all the 4.2/4.3/4.4 ROM's and nothing seems to work any BETTER than 4.1.2 for my needs, which for me is too have as many possible controls/functions available from touching the lower half of the screen, w/out having to sacrifice any screen space for status/navi bars and while holding it w/1 hand only using thumb, be it for any quick settings or launching/switching/closing apps or typing or turning the screen on/off/unlocked.
Extended desktop in 240dpi tablet mode helps too.
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im on resurrection remix (4.4.2) and it is so much smoother and faster than the 4.3 and older ROMs ive tried (PA and PACMAN). I heard LiquidSmooth is also great so I consider upgrading to that at some point and switch to F2FS while im at it
Plenty of roms have the option to customize that nav and status bar (including hiding it for slide in) as well as app launchers and various other features. I recommend checking out reviews of popular roms on youtube or something, to check what the are capable of and then decide on which one to pick!

hp13 said:
time to upgrade to 4.3/4.4. they're better than 4.1.2 for sure. 4.3 is more fluid for sure. Try the stock 4.3 rom or purity 4.3 + franco. you won't be disappointed.
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Skip 4.3 if you can, it is horribly slow and heavy. at least go to 4.2.2 or 4.4 would even be better in term of overall performance and device usability.

jazle said:
Skip 4.3 if you can, it is horribly slow and heavy. at least go to 4.2.2 or 4.4 would even be better in term of overall performance and device usability.
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i found 4.2.2 rom sluggish. i didn't experience the memory leak bug on 4.3. even the stock launcher on 4.2.2 was little laggy

Just stick with 4.1.2 if that works best for you. 4.2 is very laggy and 4.3 and 4.4 are so-so(not as smooth as 4.1.2).