Anyone else think the supposed improvements of KK are more snake oil than anything??
The difference between ics and JB is astounding.
But I've yet to see the same with KK. There's a new theme, which frankly sucks (subjective) .
I haven't seen the supposed improvements in ram.
Or the improved battery life with audio playback.
I'm well aware that many improvements are under the hood, and sure they might be significant, but to ME, the end user, I simply don't see them.
I think I noticed a bigger difference with 4.2.
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I do agree to some extent but in reality we are always limited by the hardware we have - that will not change. Also, due to the fact we're stuck on a 3.1 kernel, perhaps we are not seeing all the benefits we could.
To me, the jump to Ice Cream Sandwich where we finally got 2d graphics acceleration was the last major, major jump. Everything since (as a .x update) has been a minor evolution. Let's see what Android 5.x brings!
drivenby said:
Anyone else think the supposed improvements of KK are more snake oil than anything??
The difference between ics and JB is astounding.
But I've yet to see the same with KK. There's a new theme, which frankly sucks (subjective) .
I haven't seen the supposed improvements in ram.
Or the improved battery life with audio playback.
I'm well aware that many improvements are under the hood, and sure they might be significant, but to ME, the end user, I simply don't see them.
I think I noticed a bigger difference with 4.2.
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its much less about JB vs KK, but more about Dalvik vs ART.
when you run cm 11 on ART it is much smoother and apps run much faster.
treebill said:
its much less about JB vs KK, but more about Dalvik vs ART.
when you run cm 11 on ART it is much smoother and apps run much faster.
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Yeah but ART is in the initial stages.. i enabled it and it worked fine for like one hour or so and then things started getting f****d up... finally had to disable it. and when the phone was back to dalvik, touch froze... ended up formatting it to get it back working.. otherwise the screen worked at every reboot until i turned the screen off
Khizar Amin said:
Yeah but ART is in the initial stages.. i enabled it and it worked fine for like one hour or so and then things started getting f****d up... finally had to disable it. and when the phone was back to dalvik, touch froze... ended up formatting it to get it back working.. otherwise the screen worked at every reboot until i turned the screen off
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I am running ART on CM 11, with no problems at all.
make sure you get art compatable gapps, i get mine from Here, i use the micro gapps but any will do.
treebill said:
I am running ART on CM 11, with no problems at all.
make sure you get art compatable gapps, i get mine from Here, i use the micro gapps but any will do.
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I am using the stock google package from the same thread... If my gapps were incorrect, my phone would not have booted up in the first place.
Khizar Amin said:
I am using the stock google package from the same thread... If my gapps were incorrect, my phone would not have booted up in the first place.
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he meant for ART you have the wrong...there are packages just for dalvik and also some which are supporting both runtimes, dalvik AND ART ...i personally use them from paranoidandroid...the PA -gapps are great and it has the real stock google experience launcher
Here is my experience with pure Kitkat as a stock or AOSP ROMs on Nexus 7 2013 . As stock ROMs comes with a very different launcher than the one that comes with AOSP which is nearly the same as the experience launcher on Nexus5
The stock nexus 7 3013 kitkat launcher comes with no transparency at drawer . Nav bar or status bar . While the experience launcher is nearly transparent at every part of
But when it comes to my choice I would go with the old looking stock one . The new way that experience launcher looks is so damn ugly . Really . Even the new icons design is awful . . Im so gald they kept the jelly bean look at Kitkat for nexus 7 2013 . Everutime I go for AOSP ROM I go back right into any if the stock ROMS
ITS just my own opinion .
Also They managed great to get the new wallpapers to look bad
Something else about experience launcher . I don't like the idea of the Rlauncher or rom to control the way I number and arrange my homescreens . And placing Google now on the far right is an awful decision . Using the ring to pick it is much more convenient and faster
Just to say I really love they kept the old launcher for KITKAT ON MY nexus 7 1013
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I really miss a dev team that would push it forward hard. You know something like the pa team but with amazing design choices and functionality. I get so bored using the same usage pattern of the android system for so long. I want something new a new direction of making usage easier and not just voice control which is on all the time. There is nothing new since 4.0. They could at least fix multitasking...
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One-X-master said:
he meant for ART you have the wrong...there are packages just for dalvik and also some which are supporting both runtimes, dalvik AND ART ...i personally use them from paranoidandroid...the PA -gapps are great and it has the real stock google experience launcher
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You got it wrong. i meant the same. the earlier gapps for CM11 had 2 versions one with art support and one without and if you were using the gapps without art support and enabled art, the phone wont boot up.
Edit: and i am also using the PA gapps.
battery life seems to be much better than any aosp rom before kk...this is an ARTeffect
I would say the new sources play a part to
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This is 100% stock, rooted Ice Cream Sandwich I've made for myself and thought I would share. Contains su, busybox, nano and bash binaries.
Link:
IMM76D stock rooted busybox (odexed)
IMM76D_stock_rooted_busybox_deodexed v2 (No Battery% or Softkey Mod)
IMM76D_stock_rooted_busybox_deodexed v2 (includes Battery% and Softkey Mod)
Changes v1:
Deodexed
Optimized the system for much smoother UI
Updated Apps:
Market
Gmail
GoogleEarth
Maps
Added Apps:
ChrometoPhone
GoogleDocs
GoogleGoggles
GoogleVoice
GoogleWallet
Changes v2:
Fixed issue with OS being laggy especially in Market.
Stock launcher 270 degree rotations by me.
Better transitions when rotating 180 degrees (more ipad like) by me.
1% Battery increments by he_stheone64.
Themed softkey buttons with ICS stock blue by atticus182.
Themed the rest of the UI so older older apps can have ICS theme (by unknown, didn't get the name. If you know who created let me know so I can credit them)
Removed: (why make it bloated?)
ChrometoPhone
GoogleDocs
GoogleGoggles
GoogleVoice
Oh dear, It's the great news. So, could you let me know where's the link or attached file...
gordon6 said:
Oh dear, It's the great news. So, could you let me know where's the link or attached file...
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Whoops! forgot to add the link..
Good, exactly what I was looking for.
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OMG...Geo411m, it's good to have you here with us... Really appreciate your hard work, since Nexus One times.. Cheers mate..
Nikos_s3 said:
OMG...Geo411m, it's good to have you here with us... Really appreciate your hard work, since Nexus One times.. Cheers mate..
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+1
Nikos_s3 said:
OMG...Geo411m, it's good to have you here with us... Really appreciate your hard work, since Nexus One times.. Cheers mate..
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nenil said:
+1
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Thanks guys. I ended up getting an iPhone for about a year. It was a great phone but boring due to having no customization. This is my 2nd day with the Galaxy Nexus and I love it. Android has really come a long way since I last used it.
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Hi Geo411m,
Thanks for your effort, just like to confirm that is it a CWM flashable zip?
Thanks~!!
Well, I ran into a few issues at first. It didn't have any APNs, but I reset APNS to default then restarted the phone and all is well now.
So far so good, no real issues now that it's up and running. Thanks!
And yes, it's flashable via CWM.
thanks kitinas.
damn, I'm forced to login/create account with 4shared now? bah..
nevertheless, thanks for sharing
Kitinas said:
Well, I ran into a few issues at first. It didn't have any APNs, but I reset APNS to default then restarted the phone and all is well now.
So far so good, no real issues now that it's up and running. Thanks!
And yes, it's flashable via CWM.
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Did you wipe caches after install? This rom was created using the system image directly from google and therefore should work exactly as OTA. Not sure why the apn weren't there on first use.
kwazi said:
damn, I'm forced to login/create account with 4shared now? bah..
nevertheless, thanks for sharing
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I wasn't aware of the 4shared issue. I haven't done anything with android for about a year and don't know of other hosting.
Stock or AOKP
Receiving my brand new NEXUS tomorrow. Need to make a decision whether to go with stock ROM vs AOKP.
My history has been HyperDroid CM7 on an HD2 so i am on completely new ground. Can any and all give me your top 10 reasons to go either way?...........
universed said:
Receiving my brand new NEXUS tomorrow. Need to make a decision whether to go with stock ROM vs AOKP.
My history has been HyperDroid CM7 on an HD2 so i am on completely new ground. Can any and all give me your top 10 reasons to go either way?...........
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In my opinion I feel stock (with a few tweaks) offers more stability. I've seen too many AOSP give lots of FC/crashes and I rather have a working phone then have it crash while outdoors and you have to wait to get home to fix it.
My experience in Stock tells me, you can only be with stock for so long...
...till you get frustrated enough to
first - atleast change the Kernel (go for franco kernel, one of the best out there). that makes things a bit snappier, has much more tweaks under the hood for battery life, wifi et al
Then, second, figure out how many more features are available in ROMs out there instead of stock. Once you find that - it is very difficult to stick to stock. Try APEX which is a very generic rom and keeps best features of most of the ROMs out there.
So basically, take it easy, and enjoy the ride ... (or enjoy the bumps first then figure out a way to sail smooth!)
You wont like the smooth sailing of a beautiful rom and a kernel out there, till you've had it rough enough on stock. I just used the rom in this thread, and my phone went down by atleast 30% in terms of performance.
Its much more sluggish, feels heavier, and a bit jerky through the menus. Even when I have almost no apps installed!
I was much better on a 4.0.3 bigxie Apex rom (extremely stable) and franco kernel - extremely fast! blazing.
Stock cant even hold a candle infront of this combination, and I'm talking about 4.0.4!!
GPS lock on this stock image is a 1000 times better than CM9. wtf??
robbiev80 said:
GPS lock on this stock image is a 1000 times better than CM9. wtf??
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I've always had 5-10 second lock on CM9; seems like mileage varies for some people for some reason or another.
dhruvraj said:
My experience in Stock tells me, you can only be with stock for so long...
...till you get frustrated enough to
first - atleast change the Kernel (go for franco kernel, one of the best out there). that makes things a bit snappier, has much more tweaks under the hood for battery life, wifi et al
Then, second, figure out how many more features are available in ROMs out there instead of stock. Once you find that - it is very difficult to stick to stock. Try APEX which is a very generic rom and keeps best features of most of the ROMs out there.
So basically, take it easy, and enjoy the ride ... (or enjoy the bumps first then figure out a way to sail smooth!)
You wont like the smooth sailing of a beautiful rom and a kernel out there, till you've had it rough enough on stock. I just used the rom in this thread, and my phone went down by atleast 30% in terms of performance.
Its much more sluggish, feels heavier, and a bit jerky through the menus. Even when I have almost no apps installed!
I was much better on a 4.0.3 bigxie Apex rom (extremely stable) and franco kernel - extremely fast! blazing.
Stock cant even hold a candle infront of this combination, and I'm talking about 4.0.4!!
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I just updated the ROM with a much more optimized system. Let me know how it compares to AOSP.
May I know what did you do to optimize the system? Deodex is to make it slower so I'm wondering what are other tweaks you included that make it different than say ARHD 3.0.
bigeyes0x0 said:
May I know what did you do to optimize the system? Deodex is to make it slower so I'm wondering what are other tweaks you included that make it different than say ARHD 3.0.
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I don't know what's in ARHD to compare. I made lots of changes to the build.prop for increased performance and made changes to the system to make android take advantage of the Nexuses GPU for better performance.
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Well all things were fine on 4.2.1 and then this update comes,
This is what i noticed so far,
1.Phone is EXTREMELY laggy when downloading from play store
2.Browser quick controls are bugged
3.Lots of launcher crashes
4.Alarm icon in the notification disappears while it's still active
5.Random lag spikes while navigating in de drawer or homescreen,
As far as i go, this is the laggiest jelly bean version, maybe google just got lazy, or they're working on another version of Android (fingers crossed)
EDIT: I'm not talking about custom roms and such, and i'm not willing to flash, i like stock
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First:
Do a full wipe!
Flash STOCK ANDROID JB 4.2.2 (I mean stock, and not CWM flashable stock ROMs with root..)
Use stock Android launcher (Just stock, not modded or anything else)
And then Stop complaining!
I'm on cm10.1 4.2.2 and is probably the smoothest ROM I have ever been on.
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Even I'm using panaroid but i din feel any laggish or bug. May b its a problem which have been created without new boot loader from Google ?
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ray3andrei said:
Well all things were fine on 4.2.1 and then this update comes,
This is what i noticed so far,
1.Phone is EXTREMELY laggy when downloading from play store
2.Browser quick controls are bugged
3.Lots of launcher crashes
4.Alarm icon in the notification disappears while it's still active
5.Random lag spikes while navigating in de drawer or homescreen,
As far as i go, this is the laggiest jelly bean version, maybe google just got lazy, or they're working on another version of Android (fingers crossed)
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1. Use a custom kernel and tweak the read ahead buffer size. With sio io scheduler and 256k buffer size i made the lag minimal for me.
3+5 : use nova launcher and it will be fine
4: it works fine here, make sure you do clean installs.
As a last advice I must say to flash the factory image via fastboot. It is absolutely fine with no issues. I installed it on 2 gnex' already and no problems with lag.
Sent from my Nexus Prime
manumanfred said:
First:
Do a full wipe!
Flash STOCK ANDROID JB 4.2.2 (I mean stock, and not CWM flashable stock ROMs with root..)
Use stock Android launcher (Just stock, not modded or anything else)
And then Stop complaining!
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Stock android is far away from perfect now. JDQ39 is nowhere near rock stable JZO54K. My friend. Scrolling lag is not the matter of clean installation. I've tested five 4.2.2 based roms, including stock all of them lags as hell after a while - it can be one or two days or couple of hours. Actually it's been the most evident of stock and it concerns scrolling between homescreens, lockscreens, recents. A lot of people have experienced it and it's been already reported to google issue tracker. I've already tested stock, cm10.1 m2, PA 3.1 0309, XenonHD 6.0 - all of them lags after a while. At the moment I am testing Purity and I haven's seen lag for two days.
Te easiest way to reproduce the bug. Please do not reboot your devices, and do not change wallpapers for about two days.
Same here, on CM10.1 Play Store is now smooth but was bad on XenonHD.
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I am 100% stock... My phone flies.. No lags nor bugs or redraws...
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sam razzy said:
Even I'm using panaroid but i din feel any laggish or bug. May b its a problem which have been created without new boot loader from Google ?
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No. Your problem is more than likely the former.
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forever_lol said:
Stock android is far away from perfect now. JDQ39 is nowhere near rock stable JZO54K. My friend. Scrolling lag is not the matter of clean installation. I've tested five 4.2.2 based roms, including stock all of them lags as hell after a while - it can be one or two days or couple of hours. Actually it's been the most evident of stock and it concerns scrolling between homescreens, lockscreens, recents. A lot of people have experienced it and it's been already reported to google issue tracker. I've already tested stock, cm10.1 m2, PA 3.1 0309, XenonHD 6.0 - all of them lags after a while. At the moment I am testing Purity and I haven's seen lag for two days.
Te easiest way to reproduce the bug. Please do not reboot your devices, and do not change wallpapers for about two days.
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Well I don't understand where do you see the lags. Because I don't have any lags on my nexus.
The speed also depends what kernel you are using and how much free Memory you have on your nexus..
I'm using my own ROM which is based of stock Android ROM and I have actually never experienced any lags.
Yesterday I got few apps after using apple's BT mouse and when I set up multi users.. But all the lags went away when I rebooted.
thegtfusion said:
As a last advice I must say to flash the factory image via fastboot. It is absolutely fine with no issues. I installed it on 2 gnex' already and no problems with lag.
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How do I do this?
Not sure if this has been discussed or not I searched and found many bugs but none that meet this specific issue.. I noticed that since I updated to the 4.2.2 leak on my Toro Nexus there have been a few issues:
Audio from the pogo pin dock stopped working.
Car mode goes off and on randomly as well as the charging bolt when the phone should be charging.
Phone goes into daydream mode even when not being charged..
Turning on bluetooth randomly reboots the phone on occasion and other random bugs.
I think I'm going to flash back to the previous OTA. I'm stock unlocked, unrooted, just the way I like my Nexus (for now). In no way is this a complaint, more my observations and a last shot in the dark to see if anyone has overcome these issues in the latest leaked "OTA."
On a side note, other than the dock and power issues, everything has been smooth. No lag etc...
fireknuckles said:
... I think I'm going to flash back to the previous OTA....
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Ok so I realize I don't know how to do this without resetting all data. From what I've read, the only way back includes wiping all data. Am I wrong? Is there a way for me to go back without wiping? I'm not super versed in all things Android but I think I recall flashing back to a previous OTA in the past to get another OTA to work without wiping. I can't find that thread anywhere so I'm probably mistaken. Any help?
Edit: I re-read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895 and determined that it can be done without wiping for folks that aren't noobs. I consider myself a noob at this point so I'm stuck with this 4.2.2 update until I find an easier way.
fireknuckles said:
Ok so I realize I don't know how to do this without resetting all data. From what I've read, the only way back includes wiping all data. Am I wrong? Is there a way for me to go back without wiping? I'm not super versed in all things Android but I think I recall flashing back to a previous OTA in the past to get another OTA to work without wiping. I can't find that thread anywhere so I'm probably mistaken. Any help?
Edit: I re-read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895 and determined that it can be done without wiping for folks that aren't noobs. I consider myself a noob at this point so I'm stuck with this 4.2.2 update until I find an easier way.
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It's the same as flashing a rom! Use Titanium backup to backup the apps, and custom recovery to wipe data/factory reset, cache and dalvik cache. Format /system, /data, /cache , and downgrade with the toolkit w/o format when it ask. So for less than an hour you will downgrade, and keep music, videos and photos. So the only thing you lose is programs, but you can restore them whit titanium, and that is!
manumanfred said:
Well I don't understand where do you see the lags. Because I don't have any lags on my nexus.
The speed also depends what kernel you are using and how much free Memory you have on your nexus..
I'm using my own ROM which is based of stock Android ROM and I have actually never experienced any lags.
Yesterday I got few apps after using apple's BT mouse and when I set up multi users.. But all the lags went away when I rebooted.
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Lags what I am talking about is low fps scrolling that appears after some time of normal usage. I've never experienced it on 4.1.2 or 4.2.1. It has nothing to do with the kernel. (BTW aren't we talkin about the stock one?) Problem is still present on custom kernels and even OCed CPU. It looks rather like some sort of memory leak. Reboot or changing wallpaper is a workaround solution for this issue. So yeah if you reboot your device quite often you most probably won't see this bug.
If you want to read more about this issue visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2178962
Except this bug I really like the 4.2.2 rom, these new features. I consider it as an improvement from 4.2.1.
I agree, 4.1.2 was polished more. 4.2.2 is better then the initial 4.2 release, but still has a way to go. We'll see what IO brings soon.
wisefreakz said:
I am 100% stock... My phone flies.. No lags nor bugs or redraws...
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+1
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manumanfred said:
First:
Do a full wipe!
Flash STOCK ANDROID JB 4.2.2 (I mean stock, and not CWM flashable stock ROMs with root..)
Use stock Android launcher (Just stock, not modded or anything else)
And then Stop complaining!
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Yeah i did that 2 weeks ago, and it just got laggy again
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ray3andrei said:
Yeah i did that 2 weeks ago, and it just got laggy again
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Ok.. Hmmm.....
Are you using custom kernel?
And which apps are running in background? E.g. Currents, Google+. FB...
And if you use custom kernel then make sure you use CPU governor that doesn't make Android slower or laggier..
I have actually never had any lags on my Nexus, I use 100% stock kernel, sometimes CM's kernel. I have free memory 2,10 GB of 13 GB (16GB GNex)..
Also I recommend to use some cleaner apps to delete unnecessary files..
For cleaning a bit my Nexus I use "Mobile Care" on Windows it is "ASC"
Which deletes e.g. Cache and junk files..
manumanfred said:
Ok.. Hmmm.....
Are you using custom kernel?
And which apps are running in background? E.g. Currents, Google+. FB...
And if you use custom kernel then make sure you use CPU governor that doesn't make Android slower or laggier..
I have actually never had any lags on my Nexus, I use 100% stock kernel, sometimes CM's kernel. I have free memory 2,10 GB of 13 GB (16GB GNex)..
Also I recommend to use some cleaner apps to delete unnecessary files..
For cleaning a bit my Nexus I use "Mobile Care" on Windows it is "ASC"
Which deletes e.g. Cache and junk files..
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Like i said, i'm 100% stock, and i see a lot of people having these issues as well..
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Greetings,
I've been around for some time, lurking mostly. And installing a ROM with ICS or JB on my Galaxy W was a wonderful way to innovate. It feels like I'm using a brand new phone, which is awesome.
I have tried Cyanogen mod and Paranoid Android and even the PAC roms. But the issue I run while using them is that my ram seems to be full most of the time, and it's filled with system apps more than my own apps. Which limits the phone seriously. I am almost unable to use Swiftkey for typing online or even messages, since it lags too much the phone.
I plan on keeping a couple of apps like a battery saver, Aviate launcher and occasionally a traffic monitor app like 3g Watchdog.I've been thinking about going back to Gingerbread versions, although new ones seem more enticing with features/apps like Google now.
I'm breaking my question in two parts:
1 - Can a more advanced android version like JB (or maybe KK) help make the system faster and the ram management more efficient? Or should I stick with a rom similar to stock?
2 - What roms do you recommend? Which Kernel? Or should I just face the fact my phone won't be able to comply with my current needs and I should ask Santa for an iPhone?
thanks
Reggards
Thaenor said:
Greetings,
I've been around for some time, lurking mostly. And installing a ROM with ICS or JB on my Galaxy W was a wonderful way to innovate. It feels like I'm using a brand new phone, which is awesome.
I have tried Cyanogen mod and Paranoid Android and even the PAC roms. But the issue I run while using them is that my ram seems to be full most of the time, and it's filled with system apps more than my own apps. Which limits the phone seriously. I am almost unable to use Swiftkey for typing online or even messages, since it lags too much the phone.
I plan on keeping a couple of apps like a battery saver, Aviate launcher and occasionally a traffic monitor app like 3g Watchdog.I've been thinking about going back to Gingerbread versions, although new ones seem more enticing with features/apps like Google now.
I'm breaking my question in two parts:
1 - Can a more advanced android version like JB (or maybe KK) help make the system faster and the ram management more efficient? Or should I stick with a rom similar to stock?
2 - What roms do you recommend? Which Kernel? Or should I just face the fact my phone won't be able to comply with my current needs and I should ask Santa for an iPhone?
thanks
Reggards
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try flashing one of a kind by ipromeh ... I think u will be satisfied
Ahmed.ragab said:
try flashing one of a kind by ipromeh ... I think u will be satisfied
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Thank you, I'll give it a try on the stable version.
For future reference, and to save the trouble for other people who may come here and need to search the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2120340
Thank you very much.
PS: in the mean time I'm open to more suggestions, just in case.
U should also give a try to monster build rev16. Im using it as daily build and its really light weight.
Thread found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39771952
mirosz said:
U should also give a try to monster build rev16. Im using it as daily build and its really light weight.
Thread found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39771952
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The rom crashes the settings applet everytime I try to change language to Portuguese.
Can't add widgets with aviate launcher (settings crashes)
otherwise seems alright.
I’ve had the GNex since the day it came out. Unlocked bootloader, flashed a new rom and did everything from there.
I’ve noticed that with every new nightly build, there was always a bug here and there which made it felt like this phone was never really solid.
Don’t get me wrong. I love this phone and it has served me well.
Recently, I bought the nexus 5 for my wife. Instantly, it felt a billion times faster right out of the box compared to my custom GNex.
It got me thinking, was the GNex always been THIS SLOW and LAGGY? Or is it the wrong ROM I’ve been using all this time? I’ve went from PA to AOKP to Slim and now Liquid. I’ve used the latest Kitkat on all and there’s ALWAYS this super bad lag after using it for a few days.
It got to the point where I did a FULL DATA WIPE on every new nightly that came out.
I’ve always done the following when installing a new ROM:
1. Wipe Data
2. Wipe cache
3. Wipe dalvik
4. Reboot into recovery again. Repeat 1-3 then install new ROM, then gapps.
5. Reboot phone one last time to finalize.
The new ROM always feels smooth/fast in the beginning, but after a while, it feels like $H*t.
I've also tried this with different combination of kernels such as Franco, Dirty V and with ART enable and disabled.
Any difference is negligible and doesn't seem to vastly improve performance.
I don’t have many apps. In fact, 95% of the apps I use are google apps (gmail, etc) Then I have pandora, evernote and a couple of other productive apps and that’s about it.
So what’s really slowing down my GNex? Too many flashes in the past 2-years? Bad ROM? Bad installation?
Or has it always been like this and I just haven’t noticed how slow/laggy it was?
Your help would be appreciated. I really don’t want to jump onto a new phone quite yet.
First of all dont even try to compare it to the Nexus 5. Its just a newer phone.. Of course its faster. My phone is flying. Things age over time. Soaybe your device is just aging. And with the right kernel and settings you can make your phone really fast. I never had lag but I had faster and slower roms or kernels.. Its what you make of it and what you think is lag..
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mrgnex said:
First of all dont even try to compare it to the Nexus 5. Its just a newer phone.. Of course its faster. My phone is flying. Things age over time. Soaybe your device is just aging. And with the right kernel and settings you can make your phone really fast. I never had lag but I had faster and slower roms or kernels.. Its what you make of it and what you think is lag..
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In that case, please share your every details. I'd love to try them out and give new life to my GNex.
Which ROM, which kernel, performance, every main settings etc...
Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 5 are just different generations of the family, they ought to have differences. In my opinion, no matter how you optimize our Galaxy Nexus, it can run nicely, the animations can be mostly smooth, but it just couldn't catch up to a Nexus 5, mostly in apps' loading speed and other things that requires sheer CPU power. Sure, it doesn't even catch up to my properly optimized Nexus 4.
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nexus 5 is best...
GNex 5 is not comparable to Nexus 5.I have tried GNex earlier and i am quite dissatisfied from it.Now i switched to Nexus 5 and there no hanging problem in nexus 5 at all and provide good memory usage.
lemonspeakers said:
In that case, please share your every details. I'd love to try them out and give new life to my GNex.
Which ROM, which kernel, performance, every main settings etc...
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Have you gave Vanir a try? If you haven't already well maybe you should because this is by far the smoothest/fastest ROM available for the Gnex. It may lag here and there but it is certainly tolerable given that this a 2+ year old phone.
Comparing the gnex to any current flagship phone is kind of silly considering they all contain the latest and greatest in CPU's/GPU's + more ram . So obviously there will be significant differences in terms of performance...not sure why you would expect anything else.
Give vanir a try and see if your Gnex runs a little better. PA AOKP and CM11 are noticeably laggier than Vanir...don't know why but they just are. If Vanir doesn't make your Gnex experience any better well just deal with it until you buy a new phone.
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In that case, please share your every details. I'd love to try them out and give new life to my GNex.
Which ROM, which kernel, performance, every main settings etc...
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Vanir with dirtyv/askp/askpremix (what i feel like lol) and nephs settings..
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It's just that I don't recall the phone being THIS SLOW compared last year or a few months ago when JB was around.
It definitely feels so much more laggier these days.
Has it been a global change in all the ROMs that infected all gnex roms?
Compared to newer phones our Galaxy Nexus is slower i think. I got my Mum the Motorola Moto G and it does seem a lot more responsive than my Galaxy Nexus running the CM11 M4 Build.
However i do have a lot of apps running in the background such as Facebook, WhatsApp, Push Email and so on, the Moto G was a fresh phone with nothing on.
I do feel the Galaxy Nexus is significantly faster with a 4.4 rom, compared to 4.3 or 4.2, however its not as snappy as a newer device, which considering the phone is 2 and a half years old i dont think you can expect it to be.
I think also apps get more demanding, i mean WhatsApp is getting huge now and using more ram, as are other apps you likely use on a daily basis.
I dont have lag.. Maybe you can share your setup/settings with us? And the Moto G is a newer phone with F2FS this makes it faster.. Also please dont use the facebook app. It slows your device and eats battery and ram. Probably all developers here will tell you the app should be banned from google play.
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Here's a list of exactly all the apps on my phone right now:
Stock browser
Stock calculator
Stock calendar
Stock camera
Stock Clock
Stock Document
Stock Downloads
Stock Gallery
Stock Messaging
Stock news/weather
Stock People
Stock Phone
Stock voice dialer
Google Chrome browser
Google Chrome to Phone
Google Drive
Google Gmail
Google
Google Settings
Google Play Music
Google Play store
Google Voice
Liquid Explorer (Came with liquid smooth)
"music" (Came with Liquid smooth)
Omniswitch (Came with LS)
Torch (came with LS)
Dropbox
Netflix
Pandora
Settings
Stocks
I Bolded the ones I use heavily on a daily basis. The rest of them I barely touch.
You'll see that I use VERY little apps, but somehow my GNEX feels like its LAGGY!
I will honestly say I heavily use Google Chrome Browser 85% of the time on my phone. I like to open up 3-4 tabs at one. But this couldnt possibly be the sole reason why my phone is SO LAGGY!
lemonspeakers said:
Here's a list of exactly all the apps on my phone right now:
Stock browser
Stock calculator
Stock calendar
Stock camera
Stock Clock
Stock Document
Stock Downloads
Stock Gallery
Stock Messaging
Stock news/weather
Stock People
Stock Phone
Stock voice dialer
Google Chrome browser
Google Chrome to Phone
Google Drive
Google Gmail
Google
Google Settings
Google Play Music
Google Play store
Google Voice
Liquid Explorer (Came with liquid smooth)
"music" (Came with Liquid smooth)
Omniswitch (Came with LS)
Torch (came with LS)
Dropbox
Netflix
Pandora
Settings
Stocks
I Bolded the ones I use heavily on a daily basis. The rest of them I barely touch.
You'll see that I use VERY little apps, but somehow my GNEX feels like its LAGGY!
I will honestly say I heavily use Google Chrome Browser 85% of the time on my phone. I like to open up 3-4 tabs at one. But this couldnt possibly be the sole reason why my phone is SO LAGGY!
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What kernel you use?
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Godra said:
What kernel you use?
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Stock Liquid smooth rom and stock kernel.
I've tried this rom with dirty v and franco and they seem to lag the phone so I stayed with stock everything. Please note that I have tried this rom with both those kernels WITH ART enabled and disabled. Each time with a FULL data wipe.
lemonspeakers said:
Stock Liquid smooth rom and stock kernel.
I've tried this rom with dirty v and franco and they seem to lag the phone so I stayed with stock everything. Please note that I have tried this rom with both those kernels WITH ART enabled and disabled. Each time with a FULL data wipe.
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That's weird. I'm using LS as well paired with DirtyV and it runs just fine. I mean, it's not perfect but I would say it's fast as Android 4.1 was. And I'm using ART
How much of free storage you have?
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I agree with all of these guys about what they are saying but I heard nothing but good things about the gnex. Maybe your doing something wrong with it?
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P R O said:
I agree with all of these guys about what they are saying but I heard nothing but good things about the gnex. Maybe your doing something wrong with it?
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I've noticed that my navigation bar always consists of 5 items: Google Now, Back, Home, Recents and Last app.
I used those very frequently. To each one of those, I've also assigned a long press action to them: Bookmark#1, #2, Voice Command, Calculator and app drawer.
My nav ring has 5 item as well, with each their own long press.
I tend to launch each app not using the recents button, but rather the shortcuts that I've assigned them. That way, all apps I frequently access is only a single press or swipe away. The more buttons I press, the more I am annoyed.
^^ Could this be the reason why my phone laggs so much?
My ram shows that I have 176MB using dirty V RSR. And less )~60MB) with the others. But regardless, 176MB still feels like 60MB. Laggg..
mrgnex said:
Vanir with dirtyv/askp/askpremix (what i feel like lol) and nephs settings..
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OMG! Latest Vanir with ASKP Chamber of secrets is amazing!
My GNex now feels like a whole new phone. It's just flying! OMG!
OHHHHH MMMMYYYYGOOOOODDDNEESS! I love it so far.
So far I've tried to lag it by doing my daily stuff and so far, no laggs like I see on AOKP, PA, Liquid smooth or ASOB.
Something must be wrong with those other roms.
I'm going to keep playing with this rom and see how it turns out.
Goodness sake.
1. If you compare the Galaxy Nexus with the Nexus 5, you're trying to compare a ferrari 599 GTO with a Ferrari 360 spyder. -_- dafuq.
Yes spyder is fast, but the freaking technology advanced by 3 years.
2. Performance is not completely comprimised. It's by how much you make the ROM lean, and how efficient each custom kernel runs on your device.
3. Make sure the KERNEL you use has the optimizations you want.
Cheers.
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Amperific said:
2. Performance is not completely comprimised. It's by how much you make the ROM lean, and how efficient each custom kernel runs on your device.
3. Make sure the KERNEL you use has the optimizations you want.
Cheers.
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I've noticed the most lag when I use the Google Chrome Browser.
I tend to always have at lest 2 tabs going.
What kernel or kernel optimization should I be looking for in order to maximize the Galaxy Nexus for this particular task?
I started using Chrome Beta instead of regular Chrome few weeks ago. For me, it feels a liitle smoother
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...when it should be something like Hype, Compare, Choose.
I'm just posting this because it's crazy how we become kind of addicts to the cutting edge versions of Android, no matter how it really works on our device, it is just awesome because it works, on our beloved 3 years old nexus.
I'm the kind of guy who really search for smoothness, all around the system. I just can't stand a frame drop. It's kind of creepy. No, seriously, I look for details, and there's some things in KitKat I don't like. But all that said, and as I once read, if your eyes see at 15 fps it's not my fault lol. So, here they are:
- Notifications panel / Quick settings animation. Yes, guess what, the frame drop here is aweful. It stutters like hell. Just do it, expand the status bar and hit the tile many times, that's not smooth at all.
- RAM usage. They can say KK is optimized and bla bla, but real thing is that there's less free RAM than JB. It's a fact. You can go all the way of how Android manage memory and stuff, well, I rather more free RAM.
- Home button responsiveness. It just lags. Test it, open an app, something heavy e.g. Facebook app, and press home button. Now do the same but use back button. Give it a few tries if you didn't notice the difference at the first time.
- High battery drain.
There are some other things but you get the point. I felt less responsiveness in general, when multitasking, etc. So I decided to go back to Android 4.3.1 JB, CM 10.2.1 in my particular case. Oh yes, this feels awesome. Notifications panel / Quick settings animation is fully smooth, I've more free ram, Home button reaction is fast again, multitasking is great. I also realized that I missed the Vanilla ui. This is definitely where I'm staying.
So my conclusion is, you can follow the hype but don't stay just with the new things, make your own judgement, compare and choose what's your most suitable rom/android version out there
NOTES:
- I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos looking for this issues I've mentioned, so I discard problems with my Maguro in particular.
- I'm comparing both Android versions with the same apps (around 140 total apps), so there's no factory reset placebo effect.
- They're all present on different roms i.e CM, PA, and some others, so its KK related I guess.
- A particular thing about CM 10.2.1 is that it cames with a modified phase beam live wallpaper that slows down the launcher/system, don't get wrong this first bad impression , try another live wallpaper and you'll see how smooth is it. It runs great, using live or static wallpapers. What I did was delete the phasebeam.apk and push the stock 4.3 phasebeam.apk, that works good :good:.
- Hey! There's some good KK themes for old Theme Chooser if you want the KK look.
Anyway, here's another reason to not to ask what's the best rom for my GN.
This is just my personal opinion.
Hope you've enjoyed the post, and go try yourself!
Kustaa said:
...when it should be something like Hype, Compare, Choose.
I'm just posting this because it's crazy how we become kind of addicts to the cutting edge versions of Android, no matter how it really works on our device, it is just awesome because it works, on our beloved 3 years old nexus.
I'm the kind of guy who really search for smoothness, all around the system. I just can't stand a frame drop. It's kind of creepy. No, seriously, I look for details, and there's some things in KitKat I don't like. But all that said, and as I once read, if your eyes see at 15 fps it's not my fault lol. So, here they are:
- Notifications panel / Quick settings animation. Yes, guess what, the frame drop here is aweful. It stutters like hell. Just do it, expand the status bar and hit the tile many times, that's not smooth at all.
- RAM usage. They can say KK is optimized and bla bla, but real thing is that there's less free RAM than JB. It's a fact. You can go all the way of how Android manage memory and stuff, well, I rather more free RAM.
- Home button responsiveness. It just lags. Test it, open an app, something heavy e.g. Facebook app, and press home button. Now do the same but use back button. Give it a few tries if you didn't notice the difference at the first time.
- High battery drain.
There are some other things but you get the point. I felt less responsiveness in general, when multitasking, etc. So I decided to go back to Android 4.3.1 JB, CM 10.2.1 in my particular case. Oh yes, this feels awesome. Notifications panel / Quick settings animation is fully smooth, I've more free ram, Home button reaction is fast again, multitasking is great. I also realized that I missed the Vanilla ui. This is definitely where I'm staying.
So my conclusion is, you can follow the hype but don't stay just with the new things, make your own judgement, compare and choose what's your most suitable rom/android version out there
NOTES:
- I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos looking for this issues I've mentioned, so I discard problems with my Maguro in particular.
- I'm comparing both Android versions with the same apps (around 140 total apps), so there's no factory reset placebo effect.
- They're all present on different roms i.e CM, PA, and some others, so its KK related I guess.
- A particular thing about CM 10.2.1 is that it cames with a modified phase beam live wallpaper that slows down the launcher/system, don't get wrong this first bad impression , try another live wallpaper and you'll see how smooth is it. It runs great, using live or static wallpapers. What I did was delete the phasebeam.apk and push the stock 4.3 phasebeam.apk, that works good :good:.
- Hey! There's some good KK themes for old Theme Chooser if you want the KK look.
Anyway, here's another reason to not to ask what's the best rom for my GN.
This is just my personal opinion.
Hope you've enjoyed the post, and go try yourself!
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I agree with the problems you mentioned and i do want speed, stability and smoothness.
I noticed those things when i first upgraded to KK.
To overcome those challenges, i tried all the roms (CM Remix, Cm11, PA, Omni, Omni FML, geyers, AOKP, etc..) with stock kernels and then with DIRTY V and Fancy.
More ram is available with dirty v, fancy and stock PA kernel.
Afterall, i choose my personal set up which is smooth and stable for my device. i am satisfied with it now.
With Android you always have a choice of tweaking, upgrading or downgrading from JB > KK. so choose whats best for you :good:
Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.
hemantv said:
Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.
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As I said, you'll have to try my friend
If you want my opinion, CM 10.2.1 Stable is awesome. Rock solid. You should make a nandroid backup of your current rom and go try some 4.3 stuff! In worst scenario you'll be restoring the nandroid and that's it!
hemantv said:
Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.
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try the paranoid 3.99 based on 4.3
I remember it was really smooth
Kustaa said:
As I said, you'll have to try my friend
If you want my opinion, CM 10.2.1 Stable is awesome. Rock solid. You should make a nandroid backup of your current rom and go try some 4.3 stuff! In worst scenario you'll be restoring the nandroid and that's it!
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I agree with you on everything you said. I think I even went back to CM 10.X (not sure the exact one), but it was much better than anything I had before. I am on PA 4.44 and my data loses connection often and not sure why. The version of CM though, I would put it on airplane mode and my battery would still be drained the next day when other versions I didn't have that issue. That's one reason I went to another ROM, but it appears I am just going through ROMS like crazy trying to find the one I like most. To me...battery life is the most important.
decisions.
when i stopped using google framework with all those apps you dont have to use...
i found my battery lasting much longer
setting my kernel to lazy...while turning up voltage and over hertz. gives it enough speed...with enough "crash"
to stay up for 3 to 4 days, just sitting there
and 1 to 2 while in normal use.
and using up my data....well no one is going to get much up time like that