I've read various threads where people discuss that the use of an AOSP-based ROM resulted in poorer radio performance, and some saying that this persisted even *after* flashing back to stock or other sense-based ROM. The latter is what is keeping me from trying out any of the AOSP-based ROMs available. I don't want to irreversibly worsen reception, because I really, REALLY hated dealing with that issue on my Galaxy Nexus.
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godhamba said:
I've read various threads where people discuss that the use of an AOSP-based ROM resulted in poorer radio performance, and some saying that this persisted even *after* flashing back to stock or other sense-based ROM. The latter is what is keeping me from trying out any of the AOSP-based ROMs available. I don't want to irreversibly worsen reception, because I really, REALLY hated dealing with that issue on my Galaxy Nexus.
Any thoughts?
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I ran PACman for a while before switching to Bonestock...I never noticed any difference in reception. I ran a few speed tests before, during and after PACman and they were are fairly similar.
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Isn't the radio flashed separately from the ROM? I flashed tons of roms with my s3 and never really noticed a difference in reception.
Go under about phones and look at the signal strength in there and bet sense or aosp it will be the same. Never go by the bars as you can make them read whatever you want them to.
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There have been several folks who, after flashing an AOSP ROM, can't get cell service (only data) when reverting back to stock. It's not just s question of bar deception.
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Go under about phones and look at the signal strength in there and bet sense or aosp it will be the same. Never go by the bars as you can make them read whatever you want them to.
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I've experienced reception issues and lag w/ AOSP roms. The phone is just designed for Sense imho...
godhamba said:
I've read various threads where people discuss that the use of an AOSP-based ROM resulted in poorer radio performance, and some saying that this persisted even *after* flashing back to stock or other sense-based ROM. The latter is what is keeping me from trying out any of the AOSP-based ROMs available. I don't want to irreversibly worsen reception, because I really, REALLY hated dealing with that issue on my Galaxy Nexus.
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I've noticed signal strength dings on some aosp roms but not all oddly enough. I do seem to get the best signal on sense based roms though (GPE roms and the like).
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You need to remember that AOSP roms are hacked together for phones that were never meant to run it. I'm not trying to discourage anyone from flashing those roms since that's up to reach person, but no AOSP rom will ever run as good as a Sense rom. It's just the nature of things.
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You need to remember that AOSP roms are hacked together for phones that were never meant to run it. I'm not trying to discourage anyone from flashing those roms since that's up to reach person, but no AOSP rom will ever run as good as a Sense rom. It's just the nature of things.
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I've yet to see any sense rom run better than a nightly, let alone a stable build (from a pure performance standpoint)
As far as the OP- Signals will be within 0-5db depending on the rom, and that's only because we're on a CDMA device with a closed source RIL.
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You need to remember that AOSP roms are hacked together for phones that were never meant to run it. I'm not trying to discourage anyone from flashing those roms since that's up to reach person, but no AOSP rom will ever run as good as a Sense rom. It's just the nature of things.
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I love aosp roms, but I tend to agree with you.
With my s3, I noticed a difference with my signal in certain places using aosp vs stock rom. But with the One, I haven't noticed a signal difference.
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I don't just mean signal. I mean in general. You will never find an AOSP rom for a non-nexus device that has everything working on par with the stock rom.
There are always things that are slightly buggy, or require some sort of hacky workaround or whatnot.
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I don't just mean signal. I mean in general. You will never find an AOSP rom for a non-nexus device that has everything working on par with the stock rom.
There are always things that are slightly buggy, or require some sort of hacky workaround or whatnot.
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Sorry you are wrong neo has aosp roms on the rezound that runs better than sense and data is spot on.
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Some will say yes, but they are using the subjective "bars" and not the actual dBm to check ratings. I haven't noticed any change in signal when I used it in the past on CM and whatnot.
I've had terrible signal strength lately (using dBm numbers) and wondered if something was wrong with my phone until I read this. Are there any other threads discussing the issue and possible solutions? If I can't fix this I'm going to have to get back to a locked bootloader and S-on and swap the phone out. -110 signal as a norm just isn't cutting it.
I don't see the bog deal with the higher numbers. Here are my numbers on sense. They are no difference thsn what you are getting on aosp. One is in a better coverage are where the other is on the front. I notice no difference in performance of the data.
The higher number one had it jump to 116 but does not interfere with tethering. You can try to swap out your phone but doubt they will do it and most likely you live right on the edge of the 4g coverage. My pictures shows sense and those are the same numbers I got while on aosp.
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Some will say yes, but they are using the subjective "bars" and not the actual dBm to check ratings. I haven't noticed any change in signal when I used it in the past on CM and whatnot.
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With my Nexus, I sat in a parking lot and went from one Rom to another, I noticed a difference in the numbers and surfing the web.
A kernel developer back then did say flashing various roms could impact signal strength.
I'll bet this topic has been discussed more times than we can count, but it's always nice to get a new perspective. Wouldn't you agree?
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With my Nexus, I sat in a parking lot and went from one Rom to another, I noticed a difference in the numbers and surfing the web.
A kernel developer back then did say flashing various roms could impact signal strength.
I'll bet this topic has been discussed more times than we can count, but it's always nice to get a new perspective. Wouldn't you agree?
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DBm will change in one location regardless probably by 20 or so. My fnex usually is around 75-100. Not that great I know
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DBm will change in one location regardless probably by 20 or so. My fnex usually is around 75-100. Not that great I know
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Agreed, but I also surfed the web for a while, it was noticeable difference.
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Agreed, but I also surfed the web for a while, it was noticeable difference.
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Yea I know I'm agreeing with you lol.
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DBm will change in one location regardless probably by 20 or so. My fnex usually is around 75-100. Not that great I know
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You consider 70 not so good?
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Any major benefits to it right now beside the major LoS issue. OC is not really a key factor in it for me with this phone since its fast anyway. I know custom roms usually always have a major benefit towards what they can do. but is it really worth it at this point. i have not once had any LoS issues, may just battery
PS. i just got my phone yesterday so i dont know much about samsung products. im use to rooting with HTC devices from the start of the hero, Evo, Evo Shift.
I waited a week to root and had no LOS. Then I flashed everything I could get my hands on and still haven't had LOS. The roms that are out all seem a little smoother and faster than stock. Just make sure you wipe data/cache/dalvik and format system before you flash a rom and you should never have any issues. Returning to stock is also so easy that there aren't any real drawbacks to rooting and flashing roms or kernels. If you're happy with the way it is now I'd just give it some time and read about the roms and kernels as everything progresses. I could live with my phone stock but I hate background processes and bloatware lol.
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I waited a week to root and had no LOS. Then I flashed everything I could get my hands on and still haven't had LOS. The roms that are out all seem a little smoother and faster than stock. Just make sure you wipe data/cache/dalvik and format system before you flash a rom and you should never have any issues. Returning to stock is also so easy that there aren't any real drawbacks to rooting and flashing roms or kernels. If you're happy with the way it is now I'd just give it some time and read about the roms and kernels as everything progresses. I could live with my phone stock but I hate background processes and bloatware lol.
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hehe u forgot to metion, most custom rom save more battery life than stock not just lil alot more.
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hehe u forgot to metion, most custom rom save more battery life than stock not just lil alot more.
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that's what im looking for, the better battery life, but stock is surprisingly good for me right now, except battery. Does either rom support signal feeds from other towers like CM did?? just curious, highly doubtful tho.
kyhassen said:
that's what im looking for, the better battery life, but stock is surprisingly good for me right now, except battery. Does either rom support signal feeds from other towers like CM did?? just curious, highly doubtful tho.
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Do you mean forced roaming like on Verizon? If so then yes you can force a prl update to the phone that will let you control roaming. And as far as battery life I run the stock pulled kernel and have it set to 500Mhz Max when the screen is off and 1ghz when on and my battery life has been great (standby times are incredible).
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Do you mean forced roaming like on Verizon? If so then yes you can force a prl update to the phone that will let you control roaming. And as far as battery life I run the stock pulled kernel and have it set to 500Mhz Max when the screen is off and 1ghz when on and my battery life has been great (standby times are incredible).
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ok well thank you. i been trying to find something useful in battery life. its stock right now due to researching make sure i use the right tools for rooting, but the phone dies rather fast with texting only, and when i dont text much.
Just wondering what everyone else likes for a rom. Feel free to tell us your likes or dislikes with your current rom. With the choices we have available to us on this device, I'm sure some are wondering which rom is right for them.... this poll should give people some kind of direction.
EDIT: I must apologize. I must of been tired to miss putting viperROM on the poll list. Don't suppose there is a way to edit that poll is there?
I'm loving Starburst and glad I finally budged out of my curmudgeonly ways off of stock as I wait for CM. It's very full featured and allows tweaking without turning into a theme-fest. I was very surprised with it.
Though I am also preparing my phone to try out some other ROMs today....I'm a big fan of Calkulins work so I'm pretty eager to try that out.
Calkulin FTW
Although to be fair I haven't tried starburst yet. Didnt boot when I tried it but it was my first attempt at a custom ROM on this phone so I am sure I did something wrong
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Calkulin +1
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Viper rom FTW!
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ViperRom
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Stock
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Calkulin atm. Viper closely behind
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Liking Starburst quite a bit. My phone is fast and reliable, waiting for further advancements before trying something else.
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I haven't tried anything besides stock and star burst.I was seriously going to open a thread like this because I'm convinced that caulkin's is probably better. But my phones set up o-soo perfect right now idk what to do. After j see screenies and some themes for caulkin anhd hear good things about battery and smoothness I'm going to hold tight
If you want stable I'd go for this AOSP mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18444793
I cringe when I see other people having problems on other roms, ranging from battery life to stability issues. I'll only leave this for ICS.
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No doubt caulkulins roms is the best
Much smoother and faster than starburst or viper
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If you want stable I'd go for this AOSP mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18444793
I cringe when I see other people having problems on other roms, ranging from battery life to stability issues. I'll only leave this for ICS.
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To be honest, and maybe this means I'm a ****, but when I read about people having all kinds of problems with a rom or a kernel or a mod or anything my first thought is automatically "they probably fncked something up."
A vast majority of the times this is, in fact, the problem. I'm on my 8th? 9th? Android device. I hack 'em up to pieces. I try to be a good boy and read everything thoroughly...but I don't. I skim for the important bits. If I screw something up it's usually pretty obvious, then I fix it, then it works. I have never actually had a ROM that has destroyed my battery life (I have with experimental kernels, but, to be expected), I have never lost 3G function, I have never gotten unfixable bootloops, I have never killed my wifi or 4G to where a full wipe and reflash didn't bring it back...never. For years now I have been hearing some wild problems from people and never actually experienced any of them for myself in a way that wasn't fixable, by myself.
I have gotten better battery life, faster internet, working youtube, faster wifi (the 'wifi n' mod on Evo4G), etc etc etc.
I don't know, I'm always skeptical of people claiming a rom or kernel are screwing things up when there are other people with no problems at all.
Alpha and Beta roms notwithstanding, lol
viper for some reason not on here..
but anyway, my vote is for viper. Need to try Calkulin more though
yeah.. where's viper? I think the rom is quiet good.. and nobody 's seems to complain much on his thread..
Why the f*ck isnt viperROM included in this poll?
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Why the f*ck isnt viperROM included in this poll?
*facepalm*
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agreed. great dev that should be acknowledged on this poll
let's show some love for Strong steve's odexed versions of themes. That requires some work to get all the stuff working and having it all odex, i vote to add them to the poll
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Just wondering what everyone else likes for a rom. Feel free to tell us your likes or dislikes with your current rom. With the choices we have available to us on this device, I'm sure some are wondering which rom is right for them.... this poll should give people some kind of direction.
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ViperROM for me
Call... hands down the best Rom I've used if cm never came I could be content using this...
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I know that in order to switch prl files you need to be on a sense rom I just don't understand why. My question is, what is the benefit of sense over non-sense or vise versa? Is there a better performance or signal from one or the other? Seems like some people are hardcore for one or the other.
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Better? You're asking an opinion question. Sense works just fine in my opinion.
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Yes its an opinion question as well as a stats question. I'm trying to decide what to go with. My job takes me places with poor signal. I can change prls with sense so that I force to Vzw towers, but does non-sense rom provide any better reception? That is my main concern above looks.
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I have found that Sense takes up more memory since it is an add on to the stock android. Some people feel that all of these extra apps and code that come with Sense slow it down. Sense also comes with apps from HTC that people just love (the Widget Clock is one). If you do not like the Sense overlay and use another launcher then the need/desire for Sense decreases
I prefer Sense-less and for a long time I was running tommytomatoe's Classic. While it is a Sense ROM it also comes Sense-less. The latest version allows you to remove Sense once you have installed the ROM. What I liked about this build, besides its stability and speed, is that it had prl update.
From what you have said, this may be the ROM for you.
Doc
gsx1000r02 said:
Yes its an opinion question as well as a stats question. I'm trying to decide what to go with. My job takes me places with poor signal. I can change prls with sense so that I force to Vzw towers, but does non-sense rom provide any better reception? That is my main concern above looks.
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I personally hate sense but as far as overall for reception and data/wifi speeds your probably gonna get the best results as the firmware was designed specifically for your device
The only thing I don't like about Sense is the crippled bluetooth. It looks like HTC has fixed this in the newest EVO as people are reporting the bluetooth now works with wii remotes and Sense. If only there was some way we could get it fixed for the OG.
If I was non-sense then there would be no way to force to Vzw prls. That to me is a good trick while I'm at work. Is there anything that can be done on non-sense to help signal strength?
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If I was non-sense then there would be no way to force to Vzw prls. That to me is a good trick while I'm at work. Is there anything that can be done on non-sense to help signal strength?
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Nothing that would come close to what you get with Verizon's prls.. go with SOS you have so many different options with aroma installer you can make it just how you want it.. it sounds like that'll be the best bet for you
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Call me a noob, but what do you mean SOS?
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Call me a noob, but what do you mean SOS?
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Swagged out stock rom
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So today's I was in some building and I was on CM10 but had no signal at all. Check with another S4 running TW and it had a couple of bars. As well as an S3. I went to another aosp rom and still the same thing. Is there anything i need to tweak to get better signal or is that the way AOSP roms are?
Afaik it's just the way aosp reports your reception. It actually should be exactly the same in dbm's as any TW rom.
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The past week, I've been trying to find a rom and kernel that would increase my battery life. I use my phone for many different things. However, I gave up trying to do so and I am reverting back to the stock rom and kernel, as I have heard that it gives decent battery life and offers the best stability. The only problem I have with this is that the stock rom is no where as smooth as aosp roms. Sometimes it laggy and it loads stuff slowly. Any way I can get around this? I know it isn't a big deal, but to me it makes a big difference.
In my opinion use a custom ROM based on stock firmware.and just test.
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In my opinion use a custom ROM based on stock firmware.and just test.
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Believe me, I've tried. I haven't tried all roms, but what I do know is that I love custom roms because they are quick, responsive, and offer tweaking and customization. However, it isn't as stable and usually for me doesn't offer good battery life.
Have you read Woody's Battery Thread? I not, do so, it has tons of good info.
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Have you read Woody's Battery Thread? I not, do so, it has tons of good info.
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Yes, I have tried much of what he listed in his thread.
I basically posted a new thread that relates to this topic so would a forum mod please close this thread.