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I flashed a few different roms and the data speeds on CM/AOKP JB roms are always less than half of TW roms (6mbps vs 20mbps) irrespective of kernels, radios, etc. Is this a known issue.
My guess is that AOSP roms are not able to get 42mbps HSPA+ which TW roms are able to get. I was wondering is there something in TW roms that is not on AOSP (maybe a flashable zip somewhere) that would allow maximum speeds.
I searched but couldnt find anything. Sorry if this has been answered before.
Any suggestions?
htrakr said:
I flashed a few different roms and the data speeds on CM/AOKP JB roms are always less than half of TW roms (6mbps vs 20mbps) irrespective of kernels, radios, etc. Is this a known issue.
My guess is that AOSP roms are not able to get 42mbps HSPA+ which TW roms are able to get. I was wondering is there something in TW roms that is not on AOSP (maybe a flashable zip somewhere) that would allow maximum speeds.
I searched but couldnt find anything. Sorry if this has been answered before.
Any suggestions?
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Yes thats a downside of not having source code. However, i can get approx 1mB/s using CM10 JB. I know on the S3 we can get the max speed. i havent tried the latest CM10 build for the s2 yet so i dont know if they incorporated the speed fix
I get the same 10-15 mb speeds on cm10 as on tw roms
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I also would like to know if there is a reduction in ping on 4.0.3 based ROMs. I really like the stock 4.0.4 radio build vs the stock 4.0.3 because of the ping not being quite as bad. So far my lowest ping was on 2.3.6 stock (final build). This factor tends to make me hesitate from testing 4.0.3 based ROMs. I like steady performance along with kick ass results on speed test.
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Z-Man™ said:
I get the same 10-15 mb speeds on cm10 as on tw roms
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What rom are you using.
I tried Superlite CM10 and AOKP-JB build 3 with UVLE1 and UVLH1 radios.
Yeah the whole cm/aokp being slower thing is over and no longer applies. I get about 13mbs with the Rom in my Sig. Any current nightly of aokp out cyanogenmod should get full speed.
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Ive been on AOSP roms for around 5 months. I was just wondering how TW roms have come along. Would just like some opinions thanks.
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Try for yourself they are not bad. Battery life is similar once you strip out all the junk. Apparently 4g works better now. I also like the mtp protocol for connecting via USB and think its faster. You can also update prl and profile and get GPS lock easy.
Overall though I still prefer aosp. More options and better user experience overall.
Has TW gotten better in 5 months? Yes.
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Greetings fellow S2 users. I hope I'm not too late to the party and that this phone still receives much love. I come from the OG Evo 4g side of the forums and after 2 years on sprint, I decided to high tail it to something moderately priced, more current hardware wise, and a plan that is more affordable.
And now with the release of the new OFFICIAL JB update from good 'ol Samsung, will there be any TW kernels or only AOSP? On the Evo, Sense was terrible and slow as all hell, but after playing with TW for a while I've actually become quite fond of the layout compared to AOSP. I will eventually make the switch to AOSP, but for now am LOVING the features of TW. The Music Square is nice for mood based music, I like that the video player plays pirated movies without the need for codecs/apps, WIFI calling is great and works flawlessly, and free visual voicemail without the need for Google Voice. And lets not forget free Hotspots.
Sad to see that Facial unlocking is now gone with the new JB update, and there are no music controls on lockscreen for default music app, but those are minor flaws. Would like to see S-Voice but IDK if it's a GSIII thing or not so not too bent out of shape.
So without much further ado, I am here to ask did I make a mistake picking the SGSII, and what I should know about ROM and Kernel wise compared to the OG Evo 4G. In other words, I assume that instead of Sense, it's now boiled down to TW (touchwiz) and AOSP based roms? Furthermore, is SBC still a thing; As in trickle charging? And are there any other news/tricks I should know about?
I would try out the PAC man ROM to be honest a lil bit of everything besides touchwiz i was a flashaholic but as soon as i started using PAC man ROM i havnt been able to find another ROM that suits me i love it and all the customizing options
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In order of rom purity:
1. Try touchwiz either stock or ptmr3's new builds.
2. Cm10.1 official by team chopsticks
3. Aokp official by whitehawkx
4. Pac
5. Else
PTMR3 is currently working on a custom 4.1.2 tw kernel from source. so in a day or 3 we will have a jb tw kernel:good:
and if you want to try a great aosp rom jelly bam is where its at but you wont find it on xda its on goo.im under devs - jelly bam - tmobile galaxy s2. i recommend it with cerux kernel. also you can use roms from the skyrocket also so check out that thread too.
Its a great phone with a lot of development.
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custom tw 4.1.2 kernel up in dev thread :highfive:
This is a great phone. I keep going back to Pacman Rom by Jaydubb in development or in general which is up to date by gs2usr. And a custom kernel btpy Emerson called cerux. Great combo
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suaverc118 said:
This is a great phone. I keep going back to Pacman Rom by Jaydubb in development or in general which is up to date by gs2usr. And a custom kernel btpy Emerson called cerux. Great combo
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I played with it for a small time, but was saddened by the fact I couldn't get WIFI calling on anything but TWIZ.It's the main reason I went to TMO because I get poor reception in my house. Although while on the rom, I noticed I had more bars than I did on default JB Twiz rom.
Back when I had my EVO I remember people saying AOSP uses different parameters to measure signals compared to stock roms, is this still true?
This phone is one of the best I've ever had, loving every feature of it, currently running Embryo rom 6.11 with cymbaline 3.0.74 kernal, amazing speeds benching in high 11's, its twiz based since I personally hate asop lol, all around beast of a phone, you did good...
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I've read various threads where people discuss that the use of an AOSP-based ROM resulted in poorer radio performance, and some saying that this persisted even *after* flashing back to stock or other sense-based ROM. The latter is what is keeping me from trying out any of the AOSP-based ROMs available. I don't want to irreversibly worsen reception, because I really, REALLY hated dealing with that issue on my Galaxy Nexus.
Any thoughts?
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I've read various threads where people discuss that the use of an AOSP-based ROM resulted in poorer radio performance, and some saying that this persisted even *after* flashing back to stock or other sense-based ROM. The latter is what is keeping me from trying out any of the AOSP-based ROMs available. I don't want to irreversibly worsen reception, because I really, REALLY hated dealing with that issue on my Galaxy Nexus.
Any thoughts?
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I ran PACman for a while before switching to Bonestock...I never noticed any difference in reception. I ran a few speed tests before, during and after PACman and they were are fairly similar.
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Isn't the radio flashed separately from the ROM? I flashed tons of roms with my s3 and never really noticed a difference in reception.
Go under about phones and look at the signal strength in there and bet sense or aosp it will be the same. Never go by the bars as you can make them read whatever you want them to.
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There have been several folks who, after flashing an AOSP ROM, can't get cell service (only data) when reverting back to stock. It's not just s question of bar deception.
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Go under about phones and look at the signal strength in there and bet sense or aosp it will be the same. Never go by the bars as you can make them read whatever you want them to.
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I've experienced reception issues and lag w/ AOSP roms. The phone is just designed for Sense imho...
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I've read various threads where people discuss that the use of an AOSP-based ROM resulted in poorer radio performance, and some saying that this persisted even *after* flashing back to stock or other sense-based ROM. The latter is what is keeping me from trying out any of the AOSP-based ROMs available. I don't want to irreversibly worsen reception, because I really, REALLY hated dealing with that issue on my Galaxy Nexus.
Any thoughts?
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I've noticed signal strength dings on some aosp roms but not all oddly enough. I do seem to get the best signal on sense based roms though (GPE roms and the like).
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You need to remember that AOSP roms are hacked together for phones that were never meant to run it. I'm not trying to discourage anyone from flashing those roms since that's up to reach person, but no AOSP rom will ever run as good as a Sense rom. It's just the nature of things.
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You need to remember that AOSP roms are hacked together for phones that were never meant to run it. I'm not trying to discourage anyone from flashing those roms since that's up to reach person, but no AOSP rom will ever run as good as a Sense rom. It's just the nature of things.
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I've yet to see any sense rom run better than a nightly, let alone a stable build (from a pure performance standpoint)
As far as the OP- Signals will be within 0-5db depending on the rom, and that's only because we're on a CDMA device with a closed source RIL.
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You need to remember that AOSP roms are hacked together for phones that were never meant to run it. I'm not trying to discourage anyone from flashing those roms since that's up to reach person, but no AOSP rom will ever run as good as a Sense rom. It's just the nature of things.
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I love aosp roms, but I tend to agree with you.
With my s3, I noticed a difference with my signal in certain places using aosp vs stock rom. But with the One, I haven't noticed a signal difference.
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I don't just mean signal. I mean in general. You will never find an AOSP rom for a non-nexus device that has everything working on par with the stock rom.
There are always things that are slightly buggy, or require some sort of hacky workaround or whatnot.
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I don't just mean signal. I mean in general. You will never find an AOSP rom for a non-nexus device that has everything working on par with the stock rom.
There are always things that are slightly buggy, or require some sort of hacky workaround or whatnot.
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Sorry you are wrong neo has aosp roms on the rezound that runs better than sense and data is spot on.
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Some will say yes, but they are using the subjective "bars" and not the actual dBm to check ratings. I haven't noticed any change in signal when I used it in the past on CM and whatnot.
I've had terrible signal strength lately (using dBm numbers) and wondered if something was wrong with my phone until I read this. Are there any other threads discussing the issue and possible solutions? If I can't fix this I'm going to have to get back to a locked bootloader and S-on and swap the phone out. -110 signal as a norm just isn't cutting it.
I don't see the bog deal with the higher numbers. Here are my numbers on sense. They are no difference thsn what you are getting on aosp. One is in a better coverage are where the other is on the front. I notice no difference in performance of the data.
The higher number one had it jump to 116 but does not interfere with tethering. You can try to swap out your phone but doubt they will do it and most likely you live right on the edge of the 4g coverage. My pictures shows sense and those are the same numbers I got while on aosp.
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Some will say yes, but they are using the subjective "bars" and not the actual dBm to check ratings. I haven't noticed any change in signal when I used it in the past on CM and whatnot.
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With my Nexus, I sat in a parking lot and went from one Rom to another, I noticed a difference in the numbers and surfing the web.
A kernel developer back then did say flashing various roms could impact signal strength.
I'll bet this topic has been discussed more times than we can count, but it's always nice to get a new perspective. Wouldn't you agree?
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dspcap said:
With my Nexus, I sat in a parking lot and went from one Rom to another, I noticed a difference in the numbers and surfing the web.
A kernel developer back then did say flashing various roms could impact signal strength.
I'll bet this topic has been discussed more times than we can count, but it's always nice to get a new perspective. Wouldn't you agree?
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DBm will change in one location regardless probably by 20 or so. My fnex usually is around 75-100. Not that great I know
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cstrife999 said:
DBm will change in one location regardless probably by 20 or so. My fnex usually is around 75-100. Not that great I know
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Agreed, but I also surfed the web for a while, it was noticeable difference.
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Agreed, but I also surfed the web for a while, it was noticeable difference.
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Yea I know I'm agreeing with you lol.
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cstrife999 said:
DBm will change in one location regardless probably by 20 or so. My fnex usually is around 75-100. Not that great I know
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You consider 70 not so good?
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Which do you prefer?
Both. Hybrid that is.
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For whatever reason, I get significantly better battery life using tw roms vs aosp. I prefer the look of aosp though. Battery life is winning the battle right now and I'm on TW
I have always preferred an aosp rom but they do not always offer all the goodies.. like mhl, or t-mobile wifi calling for example.. definitely always had better battery life for me, more free ram etc..
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I dunno. That's a tough one. They both have their pros and cons. I can't honestly say that I think one is better than the other. If I had a low end device that might be a different story. I've been sticking with TW lately.
Ever since the s3 I've been sticking to tw since they offer some goodies that i find convenient.. And also the battery life has been way better for me
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TouchWiz + rovo89s Xposed framework + one of the many tweaked kernels = better than any AOSP rom I've used. Just my own preference though ^_^
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After trying pretty much every ROM compatible with my TMO S4, I keep coming back to the TMO TW ROMs. Most importantly, you can't get wi-fi calling any other way. But, as Slim TW ROMs have become more common and my comfort level with making changes has risen, I have given up the idea of dual booting with an ASOP/GE/MIUI/etc. ROM as my daily driver & TW for wi-fi calling, and am now back to focusing on getting as stripped-down a TW as possible. I care nothing for eye candy and just want the quickest & most stable setup, and TW has fit the bill best for me.
TW (by a slight margin)
I prefer TW because of the camera
AOSP is still very snappy but TW is catching up to that standard (for me)
I use stock TW unrooted 4.3 btw
For me it depends on what is available at the time. Right now I've got the latest 4.3.1 cyanogenmod nightly:
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AOSP all the way, I hate touchwiz it's so ugly.
TouchWiz seems to have much better battery life. I do prefer stock because I hate a lot of extra cruft but if that can be removed, it's not so bad.
Plus Wi-Fi calling is awesome for battery life.
I know a certain someone has gotten wifi calling to work on aosp.. Still waiting to get a hold of our myself tho..
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WFG said:
I know a certain someone has gotten wifi calling to work on aosp.. Still waiting to get a hold of our myself tho..
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On the S4 AOSP?
I know it works on AOSP for the HTC One, but if you know someone who has it working on the S4 AOSP roms, you should advise that person that there is a considerable bounty built up of people willing to click the donate button a few times for a working installable Wifi Calling APK.
interesting to read the comments. I've been going back and forth between TW and AOSP ROMS. Is having the newest Android release the only major advantage of AOSP over TW? I don't think the look of AOSP is a valid reason since you can install launchers (i.e. Nova Launcher) to get the AOSP look on a TW ROM.
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interesting to read the comments. I've been going back and forth between TW and AOSP ROMS. Is having the newest Android release the only major advantage of AOSP over TW? I don't think the look of AOSP is a valid reason since you can install launchers (i.e. Nova Launcher) to get the AOSP look on a TW ROM.
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exactly.. I love aosp but im using tw with nova. I gotta have battery life
what changes does samsung make kernel side? Are the improvements made to the asop kernel? It does seem like TW has better battery life...
also if someone has wifi calling ported... why is this staying in the shadows??
I like cm 10.2 stable, my daily driver, but when wicked v9 comes out, I'm going to be jumping on that real quick.
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S4 - Google Play Edition, 4.4 with ______'s TMO WiFi calling patch & Kernel
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S4 - Google Play Edition, 4.4 with ______'s TMO WiFi calling patch & Kernel
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Am I reading this correctly? A 4.4 GE with wifi calling exists?
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