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[Q] I've some questions before Rooting my first Android phone

Hi all, ..
I've decided to root my One X but before that I want to know some things and ask some questions:-
1- What are all the side effects for unlocking the bootloader & rooting the device ??
2- After we root the device could we return the phone as it came exactly from the factroy ?? means locked again .. no root .. all side effects will disappear ??
3- What are the difference between Hboot & Bootloader ??
4- Are Kernal & Boot Image are exactly the same ??
5- What is Fastboot exactly ??
Sorry for my questions but it the first time I'll root my phone so I want to take care
And thanks in advance

Please .. Any help !!

omar_bazaraa said:
Hi all, ..
I've decided to root my One X but before that I want to know some things and ask some questions:-
1- What are all the side effects for unlocking the bootloader & rooting the device ??
2- After we root the device could we return the phone as it came exactly from the factroy ?? means locked again .. no root .. all side effects will disappear ??
3- What are the difference between Hboot & Bootloader ??
4- Are Kernal & Boot Image are exactly the same ??
5- What is Fastboot exactly ??
Sorry for my questions but it the first time I'll root my phone so I want to take care
And thanks in advance
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1 - There are no side effects that come from rooting the phone, the side effects can arise when you flash a dirty rom, but thats the joys of rooting I guess. Trying different roms/kernels until you find the combination you love.
2- After rooting, you cannot go completely back. Instead of your bootloader saying Locked, it will say RE-Locked, so they will know something is up. But apparantly if the issue is hardware caused, such as the WiFi issue, then I think they still repair under warranty.
3 - To be honest I can't answer that one, im sorry !
4 - No they are not the same, a Kernel is what communicates with the hardware, and passes that information back to the software and vice versa. Without the kernel, the hardware/software would have no way of communicating.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5534201226_7e7d2d90eb_b.jpg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=ROM-VS-Kernel
5 - Fastboot is how you modify your bootloader, which is how you flash the boot.img in order to not make the phone bootloop when installing a custom rom.
Hope thats helpful !

Hi the only bad side effects are if you do something wrong
You can return back to stock usein ruu's but not back to locked
Ye a boot.IMG is a kernel and I no of some noob friendly tools to help you unlock and fastboot kernels without having to do it manual wich helps
If you won't help through all the steps I'm welcome to help
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So, actually, the boot.img is a binary file, that contains the kernel and the ramdisk.

mmmmmmm I'm now confused !!
According to:-
1- I know the rooting will make the warranty gone and also I won't be able to update OTA !! so how to avoid these problems
2- There are difference between Locked & Relocked ?? And if I relocked my phone the warranty will come back & I'll be able to update OTA ??
3- No one had answered me !!
4- I have three different answeres !!
5- I still don't know the meaning of Fastboot
And thanks to every one who had answered .. +1 thanks to every one
And I hope thant you answer me ...

omar_bazaraa said:
mmmmmmm I'm now confused !!
According to:-
1- I know the rooting will make the warranty gone and also I won't be able to update OTA !! so how to avoid these problems
2- There are difference between Locked & Relocked ?? And if I relocked my phone the warranty will come back & I'll be able to update OTA ??
3- No one had answered me !!
4- I have three different answeres !!
5- I still don't know the meaning of Fastboot
And thanks to every one who had answered .. +1 thanks to every one
And I hope thant you answer me ...
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1/2) You can unlock to install OTA. Even if you lose warranty, you are usually protected by consumer law in your country.
3) Spelling
4) I'm right, if you keep asking, you'll have 4 answers
5) Fastboot is a setting that allows you to more quickly boot your phone. It also breaks some apps.
5) Fastboot is a tool for flashing bootloader and recovery on your phone, as well as other diagnostic tasks.

BenPope said:
1/2) You can unlock to install OTA. Even if you lose warranty, you are usually protected by consumer law in your country.
3) Spelling
4) I'm right, if you keep asking, you'll have 4 answers
5) Fastboot is a setting that allows you to more quickly boot your phone. It also breaks some apps.
5) Fastboot is a tool for flashing bootloader and recovery on your phone, as well as other diagnostic tasks.
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1- Means that the warranty won't come back ??
2- What are the difference between Locked & Relocked ?? or it's just spelling difference ??
3- Okay
4- hahahaha .. Okay
5- I know fastboot the setting but fastboot the tool I want to know it more & more .. why we need to flash bootloader & recovery even that we have it .. and how we flash the bootloader even that the fastboot mode we get it from the bootloader (Hboot) !!
+1 for your help

there is no difference between locked and relocked. Relocked means you had unlocked the bootloader and Now htc knows about it.
You can not flash custom roms from stock recovery, Since there is no option to flash the zip files. For that you need to install CWM

faiz02 said:
there is no difference between locked and relocked. Relocked means you had unlocked the bootloader and Now htc knows about it.
You can not flash custom roms from stock recovery, Since there is no option to flash the zip files. For that you need to install CWM
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Is there any problems when HTC knows that this phone has relocked the bootloader again ?? could I unlock & relock my phone may times without problems ??
What about the warranty ?? I'll lose it even after relocking my phone ??

omar_bazaraa said:
Is there any problems when HTC knows that this phone has relocked the bootloader again ?? could I unlock & relock my phone may times without problems ??
What about the warranty ?? I'll lose it even after relocking my phone ??
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Yes there is a problem.. by unlocking the bootloader you may void your warranty. By this means Htc have the authority to reject your warranty claims. But at some places they accept the relocked bootloader under the warranty. It all depends on place, service center.. and the answer of your 2nd ques would be yes.. you could do it as many times you want. And you could also get the official OTA updates. So decision is yours.. check your phone for any defect. Then think about unlocking the bootloader.
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faiz02 said:
Yes there is a problem.. by unlocking the bootloader you may void your warranty. By this means Htc have the authority to reject your warranty claims. But at some places they accept the relocked bootloader under the warranty. It all depends on place, service center.. and the answer of your 2nd ques would be yes.. you could do it as many times you want. And you could also get the official OTA updates. So decision is yours.. check your phone for any defect. Then think about unlocking the bootloader.
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Thanks .. now I have understand .. +1 thanks to you and thanks to every one who had helped me
I have a small question .. how could I know that my phone comes with warranty ?? as I bought the phone from eBay without warranty but in the box there is a Warranty Statement !!

warranty statement does not matter.. If you have the bill you may contact HTC if your phone comes under warranty or not?
but since you bought it without warranty.. So I doubt there would be any chance that it may come under any sort of warranty.

faiz02 said:
warranty statement does not matter.. If you have the bill you may contact HTC if your phone comes under warranty or not?
but since you bought it without warranty.. So I doubt there would be any chance that it may come under any sort of warranty.
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Okay Okay >> THANKS

Hboot is your bootloader. Like you get different types of bios menu for different pcs
Hboot is your bootloader not anything else. there are different hboots out there but they are all bootloaders (you could call it bios).
This means they tell your phone what to do when you press the power on button when it's off or you hold the volume down key and power on
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omar_bazaraa said:
Thanks .. now I have understand .. +1 thanks to you and thanks to every one who had helped me
I have a small question .. how could I know that my phone comes with warranty ?? as I bought the phone from eBay without warranty but in the box there is a Warranty Statement !!
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The phone was released end of march or april I believe. In that case you have warranty till March april 2014 by default as all phones come with 2 year warranty and your phone cannot possible be older than march as it was not available before then. So every single one x without a receipt had warranty till 2 years from release date
Even HTC know that so don't worry.
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faiz02 said:
warranty statement does not matter.. If you have the bill you may contact HTC if your phone comes under warranty or not?
but since you bought it without warranty.. So I doubt there would be any chance that it may come under any sort of warranty.
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I don't believe that to be true, for the first two years of a phone released, you can do without the bill receipt. If you were say to buy a HTC Desire HD a year ago brand new, as its 3 years old the build now; the receipt would be needed to prove you bought it within the last 2 years and not on release. But for a phone that has just been released you do not need to prove this, even HTC know you couldnt have had it more than 6 months

Are there any disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader to root?
As custom ROMs/bootloaders will not be able to receive OTA updates from HTC, is there anything that an update from HTC can do which custom ROMs cannot. (e.g. low level power management and performance enhancement stuff)?

eD1s0n said:
Are there any disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader to root?
As custom ROMs/bootloaders will not be able to receive OTA updates from HTC, is there anything that an update from HTC can do which custom ROMs cannot. (e.g. low level power management and performance enhancement stuff)?
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Yes you can flash roms arhd and viperx usually run the latest software from HTC anyway so you will be getting your ota erlyer than everyone else
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OMG!!!!
HBoot = the partition table on your phone. It's essentialy the way that the internal space is partitioned.
If you have let's say 5Gb of internal memory then yoy can partition it let's say like this:
1. System - 1Gb - where your ROM is installed
2. Cache - 2Gb - the cache for the sys apps and apps installed on internal
3. Data - The rest - where the apps are installed.
But to be perfectly honnest I really don't know why there would be any talk about HBoot as long we don't even have S-Off even, whem that is manditory.
As for the bootloader... That is the procces of booting the operating system in android, or any other OS. This tells the phone what to boot and what to start and in what order....
Hope it helps some of you.
Talking about HBoot I really don't think we'll be needing a different one any time soon as the sys partition is more then enought for the existing ROMs out there... for now at least. This was used mostly when you would've had a internal memory like 512 Mb and you'd use a sd-card's EXT2/EXT3 partition as internal memory for cache or data...
Hope it's more helpfull than confussing.
Rgds.
Pushu.X
Sent from my HOX.

Thanks to all these usefull informations
+1 to every one

Back to Stock (yakjuvs) (Galaxy X Brazilian) without usb cable

Hello everybody!
I need a ****ing help here now! I searched in XDA and i didn't found any solution (maybe for my despair), but, here i go:
I have a Galaxy X (Galaxy Nexus in Brazil), it's had the ROM (yakjuvs), but i "transformed" in Galaxy Nexus Takju for recive atualization of the Google. Now i have a problem with Usb conector port (in the phone). It doesn't connect in PC.
- What I need?
Back to stock rom (yakjuvs), unroot, back to stock recovery, re-lock bootloader (I think that's it.), for send my phone to warranty for repair.
- What's my difficulty?
I don't have access via ubs/pc.
There is any way to make this?
Sorry if there is other post about this, but i really didin't found.
I need help as fast as possible.
So long, and thanks for all the fish! Thanks! Thanks!

thomstrack said:
Hello everybody!
I need a ****ing help here now! I searched in XDA and i didn't found any solution (maybe for my despair), but, here i go:
I have a Galaxy X (Galaxy Nexus in Brazil), it's had the ROM (yakjuvs), but i "transformed" in Galaxy Nexus Takju for recive atualization of the Google. Now i have a problem with Usb conector port (in the phone). It doesn't connect in PC.
- What I need?
Back to stock rom (yakjuvs), unroot, back to stock recovery, re-lock bootloader (I think that's it.), for send my phone to warranty for repair.
- What's my difficulty?
I don't have access via ubs/pc.
There is any way to make this?
Sorry if there is other post about this, but i really didin't found.
I need help as fast as possible.
So long, and thanks for all the fish! Thanks! Thanks!
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Unique solution that i think possible if you can't flash in bootloader is using stock zip flashable file, passed with airdroid and flash stock but you can't flash stock recovery without bootloader, for lock bootloader i saw trickster mod ( root app ) option but is experimental
Are you sure that is Phone problem and not driver on PC/Usb port damaged on pc? it's strange :/

faintless said:
Unique solution that i think possible if you can't flash in bootloader is using stock zip flashable file, passed with airdroid and flash stock but you can't flash stock recovery without bootloader, for lock bootloader i saw trickster mod ( root app ) option but is experimental
Are you sure that is Phone problem and not driver on PC/Usb port damaged on pc? it's strange :/
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Yes! Is the usb port in phone, sometimes it loads, but it is very difficult. I think I wet the USB port. :/

Getting warrany back

I bought my HTC one X a few months ago, and i rooted it as soon as i got the device. I did not test any part of the phone, and now, it turns out that my camera is faulty. Is there some way to get my warranty back?
Thank you very much.

cytan9 said:
I bought my HTC one X a few months ago, and i rooted it as soon as i got the device. I did not test any part of the phone, and now, it turns out that my camera is faulty. Is there some way to get my warranty back?
Thank you very much.
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I think if you have just root and have supersu app you can unroot from superuser app options, and when you rooted you flashed TWRP or CWM recovery so you need also to reverse to stock recovery, but to find stock recovery need more info, your CID and sw main-version to find matching stock recovery.img! And you also can relock bootloader after doing all that that i was mentioned!
But warranty depends from country to country so..maybe you dont need revert to stock at all, some members didnt and repair service didnt ask anything!

hpnxfox said:
I think if you have just root and have supersu app you can unroot from superuser app options, and when you rooted you flashed TWRP or CWM recovery so you need also to reverse to stock recovery, but to find stock recovery need more info, your CID and sw main-version to find matching stock recovery.img! And you also can relock bootloader after doing all that that i was mentioned!
But warranty depends from country to country so..maybe you dont need revert to stock at all, some members didnt and repair service didnt ask anything!
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Hey thanks for replying
I have done all those, but on my bootloader, it says "RELOCKED". Will that have an affect? is there a way to get rid of that?

Nope....they will always see that your bootloader was unlocked before. So basically getting warranty is a guess. If its a real hardware problem you will get warranty, but if they can prove it was software then you probably won't

Everything like Mr Hofs said..."RELOCKED" status is fixed for now...and when you unlocked bootloader unfortunately you agree for new warranty condition..

I really hope that htc will fix my phone because my radio is stuffing up too
If thats the case, ill just have to bring the phone in and see what happens
thanks for your help people

HTC One X G-sensors not working all of a sudden!

Hey guys... My friend bought an HTC One X second hand. It is rooted with what seems to be stock 4.0.3 Sense 4.0. The phone is also S-OFF and everything.. I will post pictures of it.
So here's the deal:
My friend was watching a movie but suddenly he felt as if the screen wasn't rotating... Now (According to AndroSensor App) the magnetic field, orientation, gyroscope, accelerometer etc... In short.. All of the GRAVITY SENSORS and the orientation sensors aren't working.. They are DETECTED by the app but say "Waiting for event"
tried hard resetting and everything. I have put many Custom ROMs in phones before. So i can flash ROMs etc if i have to
I have attached the pictures about everything and need help.. Alot appreciated thanks.
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I noticed i forgot to upload all the attachments.. I also have noticed that people have this problem on Sense 5. This one is sense 4 o.o
Can anyone help me in this. Also the phone has its bootloader LOCKED. I have to unlock it now?
Sent from my Nexus

WasifSal said:
View attachment 2362068I noticed i forgot to upload all the attachments.. I also have noticed that people have this problem on Sense 5. This one is sense 4 o.o
Can anyone help me in this. Also the phone has its bootloader LOCKED. I have to unlock it now?
Sent from my Nexus
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take it to the shop, it is under warranty till may 2014

nogotaclue said:
take it to the shop, it is under warranty till may 2014
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Since i bought it second hand he told me "i gave you the phone when it was working. Even you checked it here in the shop. Not my fault.".... Thats the last time i ever buy a 2nd hand phone -.-
And he ain't wrong himself either... Anyways a helpful suggestion will be alot appreciated...
My question is that "CAN I FLASH A SENSE 5 (4.2.2) ROM ON THIS BAD BOY BY JUST FLASHING VIA RECOVERY?"
I'll then check the other powering off and stuff i read till i get my hands on my frnd's HOX. Cuz im a bit busy waiting for the Nexus 5 launch o.o

WasifSal said:
Since i bought it second hand he told me "i gave you the phone when it was working. Even you checked it here in the shop. Not my fault.".... Thats the last time i ever buy a 2nd hand phone -.-
And he ain't wrong himself either... Anyways a helpful suggestion will be alot appreciated...
My question is that "CAN I FLASH A SENSE 5 (4.2.2) ROM ON THIS BAD BOY BY JUST FLASHING VIA RECOVERY?"
I'll then check the other powering off and stuff i read till i get my hands on my frnd's HOX. Cuz im a bit busy waiting for the Nexus 5 launch o.o
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you should update it first, that is a very old version, you should have updates available. as it is s-off you can flash anything you want but I think you will need to update the hboot first, once that is done you have a lot of options available to you

nogotaclue said:
you should update it first, that is a very old version, you should have updates available. as it is s-off you can flash anything you want but I think you will need to update the hboot first, once that is done you have a lot of options available to you
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Ermm... So i just update it via OTA? or flash a ROM of Sense 5 or. Something?

WasifSal said:
Ermm... So i just update it via OTA? or flash a ROM of Sense 5 or. Something?
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well with such a low version there must be quite a few OTA's waiting

nogotaclue said:
well with such a low version there must be quite a few OTA's waiting
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Yeah you might be right... So what you are suggesting is I do a ROM flashing? Seeing the phone is already s-offed and everything
Anyways can you please list me a step by step procedure? Seeing this is my friend's phone so not doing this on my own :x

Bump?
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Go to settings and check for an update. What we all recommend is that you send it to HTC, all untampered One Xs should still be in warranty, so send it to them, if it can't be fixed they'll send you a One X or a One X+, or sometimes they could send a HTC One if you're lucky :/
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk

humzaahmed155 said:
Go to settings and check for an update. What we all recommend is that you send it to HTC, all untampered One Xs should still be in warranty, so send it to them, if it can't be fixed they'll send you a One X or a One X+, or sometimes they could send a HTC One if you're lucky :/
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Nay i live in Pakistan :/ if this was in warranty even they wouldn't have accepted it :/ or requested a cost for it... Either way thanks for your reply... So doing an OTA update won't create problems on an S-OFFed device right?

WasifSal said:
Nay i live in Pakistan :/ if this was in warranty even they wouldn't have accepted it :/ or requested a cost for it... Either way thanks for your reply... So doing an OTA update won't create problems on an S-OFFed device right?
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OTA need relocked or locked device , stock recovery and stock ROM
and if you still have a problem with your g-sensor , check my signature , there is an alternative way to fix it

HTC Venom said:
OTA need relocked or locked device , stock recovery and stock ROM
and if you still have a problem with your g-sensor , check my signature , there is an alternative way to fix it
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bootloader doesn't need to be locked or relocked for ota, only stock rom, stock boot.img and stock recovery

nogotaclue said:
bootloader doesn't need to be locked or relocked for ota, only stock rom, stock boot.img and stock recovery
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Oh alright! Btw if i flash a recovery via fastboot, then i am able to flash (say) a custom ROM Sense 5, 4.2.2 right? Just asking for it i will update it by OTA (provided there isnt a custom recovery... Since i didnt check that) :/

HTC Venom said:
OTA need relocked or locked device , stock recovery and stock ROM
and if you still have a problem with your g-sensor , check my signature , there is an alternative way to fix it
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Oh i'll get right on it when i get my hands on the device can i request you to stay put to this thread? Cuz i will report back here

if you flash a custom recovery you can do anything you want, ie flash a rom, sense or no sense, or flash back to stock and because you are s-off you can even change your cid to install an update from a different region.
this can go on and on and people are starting to repeat themselves and you have had all the information you need to move forward. so what you need to do, as you say you cannot fix under warranty, is :- let the phone update via ota, this will update everything including the rom, the version of sense and the hboot. then once it is finished with all ota's available you can install a custom recovery( I recommend philz touch recovery or the latest twrp) and then you can flash all the rom's or mods you like.
and if you find you still have a problem with sensors check @HTC Venom signature for a possible solution

nogotaclue said:
if you flash a custom recovery you can do anything you want, ie flash a rom, sense or no sense, or flash back to stock and because you are s-off you can even change your cid to install an update from a different region.
this can go on and on and people are starting to repeat themselves and you have had all the information you need to move forward. so what you need to do, as you say you cannot fix under warranty, is :- let the phone update via ota, this will update everything including the rom, the version of sense and the hboot. then once it is finished with all ota's available you can install a custom recovery( I recommend philz touch recovery or the latest twrp) and then you can flash all the rom's or mods you like.
and if you find you still have a problem with sensors check @HTC Venom signature for a possible solution
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Woah thanks for that reply man! Keep in touch bro i'll update it with the details when my friend lends me his One X once again thanks!

same issue
WasifSal said:
Since i bought it second hand he told me "i gave you the phone when it was working. Even you checked it here in the shop. Not my fault.".... Thats the last time i ever buy a 2nd hand phone -.-
And he ain't wrong himself either... Anyways a helpful suggestion will be alot appreciated...
same thing happened to my one x also, bought it from olx, and it was new (somewhat)...g sensor not working...i did hard reset...and it started working, but again after few days its not working, and now i have done even factory reset, but not working
what should i do
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bilalzahid29 said:
WasifSal said:
Since i bought it second hand he told me "i gave you the phone when it was working. Even you checked it here in the shop. Not my fault.".... Thats the last time i ever buy a 2nd hand phone -.-
And he ain't wrong himself either... Anyways a helpful suggestion will be alot appreciated...
same thing happened to my one x also, bought it from olx, and it was new (somewhat)...g sensor not working...i did hard reset...and it started working, but again after few days its not working, and now i have done even factory reset, but not working
what should i do
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Try to do the hard reset after couple of days. Once you feel your device is warm enough. Chances to get them back gets better with time
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i got them back except for temperature sensor....althought i did this thing several times, but once it worked out...i restarted the phone by long pressing the power button, even after the TURN OFF menu appears...on the start screen pressed volume down button to go in safe mode, all sensors started working, then i restarted mobile to come in normal mode.
working fine uptil now, i dont have restarted or powered off after that. so dont know if they will keep working after restart or again same problem will occur
all the people having same problem, just keep on trying restarts, safe mode, factory reset etc etc most probably they will start working. its just hit and trial

unroot an return phone to out the box state

hi guys/girls , back again as still not any further along with getting my phone back to stock condition ... it was rooted by a friend and dnt think it was done correctly , now I cannot get superSU OFF MY HTC ONE , I am in the UK and my carrier is o2 ...I want to unroot an relock bootloader can someone please help me as I need to take phone in for repairs .... any help would be very much appreciated

cptheboy said:
hi guys/girls , back again as still not any further along with getting my phone back to stock condition ... it was rooted by a friend and dnt think it was done correctly , now I cannot get superSU OFF MY HTC ONE , I am in the UK and my carrier is o2 ...I want to unroot an relock bootloader can someone please help me as I need to take phone in for repairs .... any help would be very much appreciated
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Hi!
I supose you know the basics.
Tou need:
- a stock rom for your device
- the bootloader
Flash you device with Odin in both cases.
1- flash the stock rom
2- flash the bootloader
3- using the bootloader, flash SU
then reboot, and now you have two option, you can wait Play store detects the update or you can open SU
The SU app ask you for an update, you tell yes, of course.
The Su app ask for two methods os installation, you select Normal
Hope this helps you, else, always you can put a stock rom and try something else.