Is there a recovery like safestrap available?I like switching between stock and custom ,I'm new to the HTC sorry if this has already been addressed
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I came from moto land too. The reason why safestrap was made was to bypass motorolas bootloader. Since the HTC one has its bootloader unlocked and s off, there's no need to have safestrap.
It's better imo, because it always felt like running a rom in safestrap felt a bit slower than running a rom directly with an unlocked bootloader. With safestrap it would need to hijack it's way in every time the phone would start to be able to boot the rom, so it would also result in a longer boot time as well.
The s4 people couldn't find a way to run custom roms after the patch, which almost killed their community, so that's when hash code came in to a port of safestrap. So if you really miss safe strap you can go there
but just run rumrunner for bootloader unlock and s off and you're good to do anything you want, flashing any part of the phone including radios which I don't think safestrap can do if I'm not mistaken, because it doesn't have access to that deep part of the phone.
Have fun!
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Thanks for the reply, what do you use?
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Hello everyone,
As you can see I am new to the site as well as rooting in general. This is my first HTC phone and it came stock with the gingerbread update. I've seen so many ROM's that I would love to use but can't since I'm not rooted. Is there any way to use them without a rooted phone.
P.s - I can't wait till I can root this phone to obtain free wi-fi tethering. I can't pay for that my bill is already $92 a month.
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I've seen so many ROM's that I would love to use but can't since I'm not rooted. Is there any way to use them without a rooted phone.
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No. You need root to flash roms.
You have to be rooted in order to flash any roms my friend...
Nitpick: You need to be rooted to flash any custom ROM.
More nitpick: He needs root to flash a custom recovery/spl, but technically do not need root after that. But most ROM comes pre-rooted for a good reason.
-- Starfox
I appreciate the reply guys, thanks.
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Soo we all know about HTC's invention of leaving the "security" on or off. This basically means that we can't flash kernels using the recovery. Also, we can't flash another radio from anywhere else and also can't downgrade the hboot.
But why is this done? I have flashed several phones like Samsung galaxy y, etc and everyone can flash kernels in the recovery. So what's the whole motive/purpose of HTC behind all this? If we can flash kernels from the BL then why not straight from the recovery? Its not that we are doing anything illegal..
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I have no good answer, BUT this will be my first and last HTC device because of this BS. LG all the way IMO.
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I have no good answer, BUT this will be my first and last HTC device because of this BS. LG all the way IMO.
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Yeah, lg or Samsung, both can flash kernels in recoveries...:banghead:
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To me when you can unlock, root and flash a custom recovery the fun should begin. It's a cop out by HTC no doubt. My old optimus S was a cake walk :banghead:
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Soo we all know about HTC's invention of leaving the "security" on or off. This basically means that we can't flash kernels using the recovery. Also, we can't flash another radio from anywhere else and also can't downgrade the hboot.
But why is this done? I have flashed several phones like Samsung galaxy y, etc and everyone can flash kernels in the recovery. So what's the whole motive/purpose of HTC behind all this? If we can flash kernels from the BL then why not straight from the recovery? Its not that we are doing anything illegal..
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The whole purpose is that we don't root our phones and because many problems happen due to rooting
htc wants to keep a track of all the devices which have unlocked their boot loaders so that if they get spoiled they don't have to repair free of cost
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Yea but HTC basically gives you the whole do at your own risk with devunlock anyways. Why not include an S off option at least?
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Yea but HTC basically gives you the whole do at your own risk with devunlock anyways. Why not include an S off option at least?
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See there are
1.devs ,
2.people who actually use root functions ,
3.people with low internal memory and want to get rid of that notification....(people who see their friends phone rooted, but have no idea about it but want it)
see now I come under the first two mainly the second......
see the third type of people will see such a lengthy process and will avoid it so their phone will not get spoiled...I hope u understand
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I understand u don't get it. If I want to unlock my phone via HTC I'm taking the risk already. S on is just a dumb extra. Dumb people will brick their phones regardless s on or off. But give the smart people the option of truly gaining control of their devices.
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I understand u don't get it. If I want to unlock my phone via HTC I'm taking the risk already. S on is just a dumb extra. Dumb people will brick their phones regardless s on or off. But give the smart people the option of truly gaining control of their devices.
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True, if we already are going to unlock the BL then we should be given an option for s on...
Vibins argument about the third type of people is justifiable though.....:banghead:
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I wonder how many of you know how EASY is to brick your phone by flashing a radio rom .
I for one I am happy about not having S-OFF because:
1. when you flash a rom made from source - the rom makes a kernel that it is called "INSECURE" because it can brick your phone - such roms are having those insecure kernels only if the developer doesn't swap the one made from source with another one that works.
2. when S-OFF will be available for our device, I will not try to flash a different radio rom for sure because you don't know if the flash will break your phone unless someone else does it and tells that it works.
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I wonder how many of you know how EASY is to brick your phone by flashing a radio rom .
I for one I am happy about not having S-OFF because:
1. when you flash a rom made from source - the rom makes a kernel that it is called "INSECURE" because it can brick your phone - such roms are having those insecure kernels only if the developer doesn't swap the one made from source with another one that works.
2. when S-OFF will be available for our device, I will not try to flash a different radio rom for sure because you don't know if the flash will break your phone unless someone else does it and tells that it works.
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If I read correct, SimonSimon is working on that s_off
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soham_sss said:
True, if we already are going to unlock the BL then we should be given an option for s on...
Vibins argument about the third type of people is justifiable though.....:banghead:
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Soham, the more the security the more the pride the company has...if u know most of the motorolla phones can't be boot unlocked...so it's no kennel for them unless some dev finds out a exploit
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soham_sss said:
Soo we all know about HTC's invention of leaving the "security" on or off. This basically means that we can't flash kernels using the recovery. Also, we can't flash another radio from anywhere else and also can't downgrade the hboot.
But why is this done? I have flashed several phones like Samsung galaxy y, etc and everyone can flash kernels in the recovery. So what's the whole motive/purpose of HTC behind all this? If we can flash kernels from the BL then why not straight from the recovery? Its not that we are doing anything illegal..
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Does the one v have any hboot that allows flashing kernels in recovery?
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Does the one v have any hboot that allows flashing kernels in recovery?
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No that's why the thread.
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Also, the question is if HTC wanted to be so secure then why are some HTC phones s off and some s on?
In fact even some one vs have s off, like someone had xb ship s off and smartboy_anu even had a pvt ship s off out of the box.
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I wonder how many of you know how EASY is to brick your phone by flashing a radio rom .
I for one I am happy about not having S-OFF because:
1. when you flash a rom made from source - the rom makes a kernel that it is called "INSECURE" because it can brick your phone - such roms are having those insecure kernels only if the developer doesn't swap the one made from source with another one that works.
2. when S-OFF will be available for our device, I will not try to flash a different radio rom for sure because you don't know if the flash will break your phone unless someone else does it and tells that it works.
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Oh wow. Double facepalm there. firstly unsecured don't break your phone. It allows you to adb remount to write to system from adb. 2ndly there's no "from source" radios. So you can't brick if it doesn't exist >.<
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Oh wow. Double facepalm there. firstly unsecured don't break your phone. It allows you to adb remount to write to system from adb. 2ndly there's no "from source" radios. So you can't brick if it doesn't exist >.<
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Chill mate, I don't know about the insecure one but he didn't mean radios existing in source, what he meant was if someone makes another radio he won't flash it because its not safe
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And that's exactly what I meant.. there won't be any radios unless released by htc. If they released another it was not hacked but build from source in another country, mostly Germany. I'm just helping someone new out so they don't go through XDA getting more rude comments
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No that's why the thread.
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I asked because the one x and one s can downgrade, I thought the method would work here, but not without an old hboot that allows kernel flashing :\
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Is this lock the reason why we can't istall Gingerbread or earlier roms on HOV?
We didn't ship with gingerbread so why would you want it
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So I rooted and unlocked my bootloader on a stock HTC one brand new from radio shack ics version 4.0.3 I want to know if I do the ota update will I suffer any damage to my phone and will it wipe? Also I have custom recovery so I have to choose zip file from downloads. I'm new to this phone do any info helps. Thanks
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I don't see any harm in taking the update. Afaik it is just a radio update which can be reversed by running the ruu back to an older version. Try it and let us know your results.
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It brings me to the cwm recovery menu and when I locate the update -sdcard/downloads/update that's where it is, it says this software could render your phone incompatible but it's an ota update
So it should work. I'm just scared to brick this phone I just got it two days ago so I could return and say it's not working I want another but I got it on sale and I don't know if they would do that or if I have to pay the extra 100$ which I can't do. Do if it doesn't start up what could I do to fix it? Like when you flash you have to fastboot a boot.zip file right? How do I do that? I'm still on stock obviously and I have a backup of my current status and completely brand new stock, thanks guys
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To install the OTA update, you'll need to restore the stock recovery, stock kernel, and most likely relock your bootloader. If you are using Virgin Mobile, be warned, the OTA is not compatible with any roms or kernels available now. If you try to install any custom roms or kernels, you will be stuck in a bootloop and will have to RUU back the older version to install them.
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To install the OTA update, you'll need to restore the stock recovery, stock kernel, and most likely relock your bootloader. If you are using Virgin Mobile, be warned, the OTA is not compatible with any roms or kernels available now. If you try to install any custom roms or kernels, you will be stuck in a bootloop and will have to RUU back the older version to install them.
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Ok thank you I am using virgin mobile but I like the stock phone I feel changing roms is too much work and I feel as if I won't like them plus I need a computer 24/7 and also I don't feel comfortable with switching back and forth all the time if I don't like anything. Mods can delete this if they'd like I got my answer thank you guys
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i am new to flash custom ROM on one V. i wasfine with the original ROM,but now some of the apps are getting very slow to get response, especially the phone, people and messaging. the system software already updated to the latest version, i have tried clean cache as well, is there a custom ROM can solve this problem, or it can be solved without flash a custom ROM?
if flash a custom ROM is a must, anyone can recommend which ROM meet my requirements?
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i am new to flash custom ROM on one V. i wasfine with the original ROM,but now some of the apps are getting very slow to get response, especially the phone, people and messaging. the system software already updated to the latest version, i have tried clean cache as well, is there a custom ROM can solve this problem, or it can be solved without flash a custom ROM?
if flash a custom ROM is a must, anyone can recommend which ROM meet my requirements?
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custom roms solve that. Issue only
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eve_bluemoon said:
i am new to flash custom ROM on one V. i wasfine with the original ROM,but now some of the apps are getting very slow to get response, especially the phone, people and messaging. the system software already updated to the latest version, i have tried clean cache as well, is there a custom ROM can solve this problem, or it can be solved without flash a custom ROM?
if flash a custom ROM is a must, anyone can recommend which ROM meet my requirements?
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If you updated the phone, the new radio has a problem with the kernels used by the custom roms that are being released here and the phone would constantly reboot itself when a different kernel/rom is used. You can still unlock your bootloader and root the phone, but you will be stuck with the stock rom/kernel.
You might want to downgrade the radio first by running the official RUU.
After you downgrade the radio, you can then unlock your bootloader and root without having any kernel problems. Something about the updated radio that comes with the OTA update ruins any custom rom/kernel installation.
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If you updated the phone, the new radio has a problem with the kernels used by the custom roms that are being released here and the phone would constantly reboot itself when a different kernel/rom is used. You can still unlock your bootloader and root the phone, but you will be stuck with the stock rom/kernel.
You might want to downgrade the radio first by running the official RUU.
After you downgrade the radio, you can then unlock your bootloader and root without having any kernel problems. Something about the updated radio that comes with the OTA update ruins any custom rom/kernel installation.
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Hmm.. this only happen to a CDMA, not GSM and I believe OP has a GSM device.
Sound much more complicated than I think. Is there a thread teach noob how to downgrade radio?
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Sound much more complicated than I think. Is there a thread teach noob how to downgrade radio?
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You don't have to worry about downgrading radio... your device is a GSM as most of us in Asia.
I do not how to downgrade. Previously was using Samsung galaxy 3 which is way simpler to flash custom rom without unlock this and that. I am just afraid brick my phone. Anyway I just downloaded an app called contacts + so far it solves my problem like a charm
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I do not how to downgrade. Previously was using Samsung galaxy 3 which is way simpler to flash custom rom without unlock this and that. I am just afraid brick my phone. Anyway I just downloaded an app called contacts + so far it solves my problem like a charm
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You don't have to down grade that's what ckpv5 said
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I'm gonna root and install a custom ROM on my friend's phone and I'm just wondering if I need to update the bootloader before installing any ROMs?
So should I root, then flash the bootloader update via Odin before installing a ROM?
Or can anyone give me a good process for doing that, it would really help
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x10user2011 said:
I'm gonna root and install a custom ROM on my friend's phone and I'm just wondering if I need to update the bootloader before installing any ROMs?
So should I root, then flash the bootloader update via Odin before installing a ROM?
Or can anyone give me a good process for doing that, it would really help
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What version bootloader do you have now and version do you think you need?
I simply did a search on "bootloader" and found this relevant thread for you. Take a look a post #2.
Hope it helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2346733&highlight=bootloader
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What version bootloader do you have now and version do you think you need?
I simply did a search on "bootloader" and found this relevant thread for you. Take a look a post #2.
Hope it helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2346733&highlight=bootloader
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I meant like my friend's phones are purely stock.. And I'm on a custom ROM. About a month ago we all got bootloader updates in order to use new ROMs so I'm wondering if that's what I need to do for my friends too, before flashing them a rom
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I meant like my friend's phones are purely stock.. And I'm on a custom ROM. About a month ago we all got bootloader updates in order to use new ROMs so I'm wondering if that's what I need to do for my friends too, before flashing them a rom
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I'm sure that it depends on what version bootloader is currently installed, and what version your ROM of choice requires. The fact that their phone is now "Stock" doesn't tell you anything. I am running a nightly version (7/7/13) of Rootbox (Doesn't get any newer than that) on a one year old S3, and have never updated my "Stock" bootloader because it was not necessary for what I need - and there isn't one newer.
Every time you flash, you are taking the chance of something screwing up. The only thing worse than bricking your phone would be bricking someone else's. IMO, you need to do some more research to answer your own question. The devil is in the details.
Good Luck.
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I'm gonna root and install a custom ROM on my friend's phone and I'm just wondering if I need to update the bootloader before installing any ROMs?
So should I root, then flash the bootloader update via Odin before installing a ROM?
Or can anyone give me a good process for doing that, it would really help
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If he is on the most current stock update provided by the carrier then the bootloader should already be updated.
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