Do I need to update bootloader on a stock phone? - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

I'm gonna root and install a custom ROM on my friend's phone and I'm just wondering if I need to update the bootloader before installing any ROMs?
So should I root, then flash the bootloader update via Odin before installing a ROM?
Or can anyone give me a good process for doing that, it would really help
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x10user2011 said:
I'm gonna root and install a custom ROM on my friend's phone and I'm just wondering if I need to update the bootloader before installing any ROMs?
So should I root, then flash the bootloader update via Odin before installing a ROM?
Or can anyone give me a good process for doing that, it would really help
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What version bootloader do you have now and version do you think you need?
I simply did a search on "bootloader" and found this relevant thread for you. Take a look a post #2.
Hope it helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2346733&highlight=bootloader

Rick-SG3 said:
What version bootloader do you have now and version do you think you need?
I simply did a search on "bootloader" and found this relevant thread for you. Take a look a post #2.
Hope it helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2346733&highlight=bootloader
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I meant like my friend's phones are purely stock.. And I'm on a custom ROM. About a month ago we all got bootloader updates in order to use new ROMs so I'm wondering if that's what I need to do for my friends too, before flashing them a rom
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x10user2011 said:
I meant like my friend's phones are purely stock.. And I'm on a custom ROM. About a month ago we all got bootloader updates in order to use new ROMs so I'm wondering if that's what I need to do for my friends too, before flashing them a rom
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I'm sure that it depends on what version bootloader is currently installed, and what version your ROM of choice requires. The fact that their phone is now "Stock" doesn't tell you anything. I am running a nightly version (7/7/13) of Rootbox (Doesn't get any newer than that) on a one year old S3, and have never updated my "Stock" bootloader because it was not necessary for what I need - and there isn't one newer.
Every time you flash, you are taking the chance of something screwing up. The only thing worse than bricking your phone would be bricking someone else's. IMO, you need to do some more research to answer your own question. The devil is in the details.
Good Luck.

x10user2011 said:
I'm gonna root and install a custom ROM on my friend's phone and I'm just wondering if I need to update the bootloader before installing any ROMs?
So should I root, then flash the bootloader update via Odin before installing a ROM?
Or can anyone give me a good process for doing that, it would really help
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If he is on the most current stock update provided by the carrier then the bootloader should already be updated.
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[Q] its been a while i have a Q

Currently on the cm7.0 with whatever kernal. i was wondering if updating to the new ota via manual upgrade, do i lose root s-off? if so what is the best and safest way to regain root nand unlock?
sorry its been a couple months since ive been able to get on here and what not. rom manager has been so helpful
b_allert said:
Currently on the cm7.0 with whatever kernal. i was wondering if updating to the new ota via manual upgrade, do i lose root s-off? if so what is the best and safest way to regain root nand unlock?
sorry its been a couple months since ive been able to get on here and what not. rom manager has been so helpful
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If you update via sense you will lose root and get a locked bootloader
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XsMagical said:
If you update via sense you will lose root and get a locked bootloader
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what would you recommend then?
b_allert said:
what would you recommend then?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038701
Here is what you need. He already has it ready to go.
jayharper08 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038701
Here is what you need. He already has it ready to go.
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i appreciate it man
Not a problem. Always here to help.
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not thinking of applying this ota or anything sense related...happy with aosp. but just have a quick question... magical said that u will get a locked bootloader. what exactly is a locked bootloader and i thought they were not getting locked anymore?
{ParanoiA} said:
not thinking of applying this ota or anything sense related...happy with aosp. but just have a quick question... magical said that u will get a locked bootloader. what exactly is a locked bootloader and i thought they were not getting locked anymore?
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Still kind of up in the air as to what's going on. It is locked, without a doubt. I personally believe they will push out an update or a way to unlock it. Like they said they would. I just think they already had it together before it got pushed out.
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Using ROM's

Hello everyone,
As you can see I am new to the site as well as rooting in general. This is my first HTC phone and it came stock with the gingerbread update. I've seen so many ROM's that I would love to use but can't since I'm not rooted. Is there any way to use them without a rooted phone.
P.s - I can't wait till I can root this phone to obtain free wi-fi tethering. I can't pay for that my bill is already $92 a month.
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I've seen so many ROM's that I would love to use but can't since I'm not rooted. Is there any way to use them without a rooted phone.
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No. You need root to flash roms.
You have to be rooted in order to flash any roms my friend...
Nitpick: You need to be rooted to flash any custom ROM.
More nitpick: He needs root to flash a custom recovery/spl, but technically do not need root after that. But most ROM comes pre-rooted for a good reason.
-- Starfox
I appreciate the reply guys, thanks.
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Ota after root and unlock

So I rooted and unlocked my bootloader on a stock HTC one brand new from radio shack ics version 4.0.3 I want to know if I do the ota update will I suffer any damage to my phone and will it wipe? Also I have custom recovery so I have to choose zip file from downloads. I'm new to this phone do any info helps. Thanks
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I don't see any harm in taking the update. Afaik it is just a radio update which can be reversed by running the ruu back to an older version. Try it and let us know your results.
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It brings me to the cwm recovery menu and when I locate the update -sdcard/downloads/update that's where it is, it says this software could render your phone incompatible but it's an ota update
So it should work. I'm just scared to brick this phone I just got it two days ago so I could return and say it's not working I want another but I got it on sale and I don't know if they would do that or if I have to pay the extra 100$ which I can't do. Do if it doesn't start up what could I do to fix it? Like when you flash you have to fastboot a boot.zip file right? How do I do that? I'm still on stock obviously and I have a backup of my current status and completely brand new stock, thanks guys
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To install the OTA update, you'll need to restore the stock recovery, stock kernel, and most likely relock your bootloader. If you are using Virgin Mobile, be warned, the OTA is not compatible with any roms or kernels available now. If you try to install any custom roms or kernels, you will be stuck in a bootloop and will have to RUU back the older version to install them.
riggerman0421 said:
To install the OTA update, you'll need to restore the stock recovery, stock kernel, and most likely relock your bootloader. If you are using Virgin Mobile, be warned, the OTA is not compatible with any roms or kernels available now. If you try to install any custom roms or kernels, you will be stuck in a bootloop and will have to RUU back the older version to install them.
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Ok thank you I am using virgin mobile but I like the stock phone I feel changing roms is too much work and I feel as if I won't like them plus I need a computer 24/7 and also I don't feel comfortable with switching back and forth all the time if I don't like anything. Mods can delete this if they'd like I got my answer thank you guys
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queries about flash custom ROM

i am new to flash custom ROM on one V. i wasfine with the original ROM,but now some of the apps are getting very slow to get response, especially the phone, people and messaging. the system software already updated to the latest version, i have tried clean cache as well, is there a custom ROM can solve this problem, or it can be solved without flash a custom ROM?
if flash a custom ROM is a must, anyone can recommend which ROM meet my requirements?
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eve_bluemoon said:
i am new to flash custom ROM on one V. i wasfine with the original ROM,but now some of the apps are getting very slow to get response, especially the phone, people and messaging. the system software already updated to the latest version, i have tried clean cache as well, is there a custom ROM can solve this problem, or it can be solved without flash a custom ROM?
if flash a custom ROM is a must, anyone can recommend which ROM meet my requirements?
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custom roms solve that. Issue only
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eve_bluemoon said:
i am new to flash custom ROM on one V. i wasfine with the original ROM,but now some of the apps are getting very slow to get response, especially the phone, people and messaging. the system software already updated to the latest version, i have tried clean cache as well, is there a custom ROM can solve this problem, or it can be solved without flash a custom ROM?
if flash a custom ROM is a must, anyone can recommend which ROM meet my requirements?
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If you updated the phone, the new radio has a problem with the kernels used by the custom roms that are being released here and the phone would constantly reboot itself when a different kernel/rom is used. You can still unlock your bootloader and root the phone, but you will be stuck with the stock rom/kernel.
You might want to downgrade the radio first by running the official RUU.
After you downgrade the radio, you can then unlock your bootloader and root without having any kernel problems. Something about the updated radio that comes with the OTA update ruins any custom rom/kernel installation.
demoport said:
If you updated the phone, the new radio has a problem with the kernels used by the custom roms that are being released here and the phone would constantly reboot itself when a different kernel/rom is used. You can still unlock your bootloader and root the phone, but you will be stuck with the stock rom/kernel.
You might want to downgrade the radio first by running the official RUU.
After you downgrade the radio, you can then unlock your bootloader and root without having any kernel problems. Something about the updated radio that comes with the OTA update ruins any custom rom/kernel installation.
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Hmm.. this only happen to a CDMA, not GSM and I believe OP has a GSM device.
Sound much more complicated than I think. Is there a thread teach noob how to downgrade radio?
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eve_bluemoon said:
Sound much more complicated than I think. Is there a thread teach noob how to downgrade radio?
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You don't have to worry about downgrading radio... your device is a GSM as most of us in Asia.
I do not how to downgrade. Previously was using Samsung galaxy 3 which is way simpler to flash custom rom without unlock this and that. I am just afraid brick my phone. Anyway I just downloaded an app called contacts + so far it solves my problem like a charm
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eve_bluemoon said:
I do not how to downgrade. Previously was using Samsung galaxy 3 which is way simpler to flash custom rom without unlock this and that. I am just afraid brick my phone. Anyway I just downloaded an app called contacts + so far it solves my problem like a charm
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You don't have to down grade that's what ckpv5 said
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[POLL]Install CWM from ICS without unbricking.

I wanted to find out if anyone thinks it would be useful to be able to root ICS and install CWM without having to downgrade to GINGERBREAD first? I have pulled the unlocked bootloader from the P936's v10i Rom and replaced the locked bootloader from ICS and install CWM Touch and therefore eliminating the need to unbrick your phone first. This includes either full stock or after a fresh install from v18f/v20x. This is done through ADB using a simple bat file.
So I just need to know:
1. Yes I think this is useful or
2. No this isn't useful.
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1. Absolutely. I am on ICS and installing a recovery seems a pain in the ... Of course every easier method would be highly welcome.
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You cannot unlock the bootloader on ICS and you need an unlocked bootloader in order to install a custom recovery from what I have seen and read.
I saw in another post that someone was able to do and I would love to see a bat file that saves us the trouble of unbricking.
audit13 said:
You cannot unlock the bootloader on ICS and you need an unlocked bootloader in order to install a custom recovery from what I have seen and read.
I saw in another post that someone was able to do and I would love to see a bat file that saves us the trouble of unbricking.
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I found a way . Actually it more accurate to say that I found a way to push an unlocked boot loader that bypasses the lock. Fully tested. I will provide more details when I get the thread done. No unbricking needed.
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Awesome. Do you know if this would work on a P935 as well or did you just try it on a P930?
audit13 said:
Awesome. Do you know if this would work on a P935 as well or did you just try it on a P930?
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Yes the entire p93x series.
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Swetnes said:
Yes the entire p93x series.
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available here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2598278

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