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noob question about backing up roms

I have just rooted my phone yesterday. This is the first time I have ever done this and want to make sure I do everything correctly so that i dont mess up my phone. I would like to install the MOAR rom on my phone but I guess I should back up my current ROM first? I don't really care about losing my status in any of my games or sms texts. I just want an easy way to return to a usable phone if something goes wrong while flashing MOAR (or if I dont like the MOAR rom, return to stock ROM that I am on). Does this mean I can bypass titanium backup and only backup to CWM? Also, can I use the method in this video (i9300)?
edit: apparently Im not allowed to post links but the title of the youtube video is "How to Backup and Restore ROM on Rooted Galaxy S3! "
In the video, i9300 phone is put in recovery mode (volume up+home+power keys) and then the phone goes to clockwork mod recovery. you can back up to internal or external SD card. Is the method the same with Sprint galaxy s3?
Also, I have 1.9 GB of space on my SD card. Is that enough space to back up the ROM using CWM?
One last question, If I want to install the add ons with the MOAR ROM, do I have to flash that at the same time as the ROM or could I install it after (im assuming using the same technique as flashing the ROM)?

jeppuda said:
I have just rooted my phone yesterday. This is the first time I have ever done this and want to make sure I do everything correctly so that i dont mess up my phone. I would like to install the MOAR rom on my phone but I guess I should back up my current ROM first? I don't really care about losing my status in any of my games or sms texts. I just want an easy way to return to a usable phone if something goes wrong while flashing MOAR (or if I dont like the MOAR rom, return to stock ROM that I am on). Does this mean I can bypass titanium backup and only backup to CWM? Also, can I use the method in this video (i9300)?
edit: apparently Im not allowed to post links but the title of the youtube video is "How to Backup and Restore ROM on Rooted Galaxy S3! "
In the video, i9300 phone is put in recovery mode (volume up+home+power keys) and then the phone goes to clockwork mod recovery. you can back up to internal or external SD card. Is the method the same with Sprint galaxy s3?
Also, I have 1.9 GB of space on my SD card. Is that enough space to back up the ROM using CWM?
One last question, If I want to install the add ons with the MOAR ROM, do I have to flash that at the same time as the ROM or could I install it after (im assuming using the same technique as flashing the ROM)?
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You can use the same *process* used there. Just make sure to NEVER EVER flash a ROM, ZIP, THEME, APP, etc. that's made for the International s3 (i9300 and some other model number too)
As for the backup part, yes, you can skip Titanium Backup. TB is mainly used to restore apps/data across roms. So if you're just trying out MOAR and want to make a backup that you can revert to just in case, a backup in recovery will be enough because TB will only backup settings + data + apps and not the entire state of your system, which a Nandroid/backup from recovery will do.
Oh, and just for your own learning benefit, a backup from recovery (commonly referred to as a Nandroid), saves the EXACT state of your system. So lets say you had just finished moving a bunch of apps from one homescreen to another. The nandroid will record all this information EXACTLY because it creates a mirror image of your system as it is at the time of backup. All SMS messages will be in the same order, times, etc, all apps will be at the same version that you left it. Everything will be as if you had put your phone down and come back some hours later.
As for the tweaks, the majority of the time you can flash them whenever you please, be it right after ROM installation or two weeks after ROM installation. Pretty much the only exception is when the dev explicitly says "flash this RIGHT after flashing the ROM" or something like that. If the dev doesnt say that, you can flash the mods/tweaks whenever you please.
One last thing, next time please post Questions in the Q&A forum. Thanks :thumbup:

CNexus said:
You can use the same *process* used there. Just make sure to NEVER EVER flash a ROM, ZIP, THEME, APP, etc. that's made for the International s3 (i9300 and some other model number too)
As for the backup part, yes, you can skip Titanium Backup. TB is mainly used to restore apps/data across roms. So if you're just trying out MOAR and want to make a backup that you can revert to just in case, a backup in recovery will be enough because TB will only backup settings + data + apps and not the entire state of your system, which a Nandroid/backup from recovery will do.
Oh, and just for your own learning benefit, a backup from recovery (commonly referred to as a Nandroid), saves the EXACT state of your system. So lets say you had just finished moving a bunch of apps from one homescreen to another. The nandroid will record all this information EXACTLY because it creates a mirror image of your system as it is at the time of backup. All SMS messages will be in the same order, times, etc, all apps will be at the same version that you left it. Everything will be as if you had put your phone down and come back some hours later.
As for the tweaks, the majority of the time you can flash them whenever you please, be it right after ROM installation or two weeks after ROM installation. Pretty much the only exception is when the dev explicitly says "flash this RIGHT after flashing the ROM" or something like that. If the dev doesnt say that, you can flash the mods/tweaks whenever you please.
One last thing, next time please post Questions in the Q&A forum. Thanks :thumbup:
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Wow, thanks for the speedy and thorough response. So, I install the tweaks exactly like the ROMS? Also, sorry about posting in the wrong section...im a noob

Haha, no problem, first-time posters tend to post questions in the General forum, or in the Development forums. Make sure you DO NOT do the latter lol (even if you have a question about a rom/mod/other thing that IS in the development sub-forum). You will get severely reprimanded by members that can be not-so-nice.
But yeah, just flash in recovery. Things that you just need to flash in recovery are generally called "flashables" or "flashable zips", and the great majority of mods are. And same exception applies here, if they dont say that it's a flashable, dont try to flash it! Sometime the "mod" will be set up in a way that you need to download it and copy/paste to the right location, just make sure you read and ask if you are unsure :good:

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Thanks for moving it for me.
Another question for anyone,
I backed up my ROM on internal SD card and moved it to my computer. There is a folder in my files->clockwork mod->blobs and backup.
Can I delete both blobs and backup? or would I lose clockworkmod if I do that? thanks

Dunno about blobs, but backup is only created when you do a nandroid. Removing it will not hurt CWM.
I use TWRP, so can't comment on blobs... but I used to delete the backup folder regularly.

[Q] CyanogenMod 10.1.3 on Rogers not showing internal SDcard files?

Ok, so I'm attempting to go from stock to CM 10.1.3, but I'm running into an odd issue. Note - I'm not a newbie to installing ROMS, having done so with my old Captivate quite regularly, but I *am* a newbie to installing them on my S3.
So, the issue is this: I am rooted, CWM (6.0.3.7) is installed, I have everything backed up with the latest version of TitaniumBackup Pro, and had it create a zip file so I could install it from CWM after doing the CM install (and I do a Nandroid backup as well). I install CM 10.1.3, install GAPPS, and install TitaniumBackup from CWM. I boot up CM, load up TitaniumBackup (sometimes I have to boot into CM first, go through setup, and THEN reboot to Recovery in order to get TitaniumBackup installed properly), and TitaniumBackup can't see *any* of the files in my internal SD card. Then I check with the file browser, and sure enough, it can't see *any* of my pre-CM files either. All of the folders are there, (not just stock file folders, but ones that I've created) but it can't see any files within those folders. I also can't see any of the files when I browse through USB on my computer, but all the folders are there. Has anybody experienced something like this? Is there something really simple and stupid that I'm missing/should be checking for?
Here's my setup, pre-CM install:
Rogers Galaxy S3 (i747M)
Android 4.1.2
Baseband I747MVLDMF1
Build number JZO54K.I747MVLDMF1
I rooted and installed CWM via the method in this thread (though I got the AT&T s3 version of CWM directly from the CWM page instead of using either of the ones linked in that thread).
Any help here would be greatly appreciated. I'm tired of the stock JB that Rogers provides, and wanted to give CM a chance, but not being able to see any of the files on my SD card is frustrating me, and making me leery of keeping the install there. Worst case scenario, I can install it, format the internal SD card, and then copy everything back over from my computer via USB, but that is a REAL hassle and I'd still be left wondering if there was something else broken.
Thanks!

Also: I do a standard wipe/factory reset before installing CM. When I restore my Nandroid backup, all is back to normal. I *did* google to see if anybody else had the same problem, but my google fu has failed me. Umm, I can't think of any other pertinent information I could offer.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274218
Try this...:good:

DMF1977 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274218
Try this...:good:
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Perfect! I'll try that tonight. Thanks muchly! :good:

Upon further messing about, I've found that it's still a bit flaky/unreliable. Apps randomly crashing, files and folders inaccessible and/or not visible despite being in /data/media/0, etc etc. Decided just to go back to stock for now, I'll take another stab at it some other time.

Reboot stuck on PA3+ screen

Hi all,
I've recently rooted my Galaxy S3 with CWM, but couldn't do the Paranoid Android upgrade due to CWM being an old version or something like this.
I downloaded ROM Manager and upgraded CWM. Then went to recovery mode and installed Paranoid Android 3+.
Upon restart, the screen remains locked forever on the PA3+ initial screen.
Any urgent help would be really appreciated.
Thanks.

Try twrp, factory reset before flash.
Sent from my Nexus 5

Pirateghost said:
Try twrp, factory reset before flash.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Hi, thanks for your reply.
Can you pls explain in some more details as I'm a beginner? To note that I cannot use the phone, so I guess the things I have to do should be done with a pc I guess... or in recovery mode maybe?
Shall I try recovery mode and do a factory reset, and in that case will I lose data?

Well this should actually be handled in the thread where you got PA, in case there are certain things that the gs3 requires, but when going from one ROM to another, you are supposed to factory reset from within recovery. Yes you lose your apps and data, not sdcard stuff like pictures, etc. This is why we all use titanium backup or helium to backup our apps.
Twrp is usually preferred over cwm these days.
Again you need to read in your device section about the proper way of handling things because your device is different from mine.
Sent from my Nexus 5

Pirateghost said:
Well this should actually be handled in the thread where you got PA, in case there are certain things that the gs3 requires, but when going from one ROM to another, you are supposed to factory reset from within recovery. Yes you lose your apps and data, not sdcard stuff like pictures, etc. This is why we all use titanium backup or helium to backup our apps.
Twrp is usually preferred over cwm these days.
Again you need to read in your device section about the proper way of handling things because your device is different from mine.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Actually I did a backup with Titanium, but not sure if I saved it on the internal drive or on the external sd card, and I can't access the phone to check were... but if I remember well it saved in the titanium folder which be default I think saves on the internal drive. Unfortunately neither the pc nor Kies won't recognise the phone...
Do you know with a factory reset if i loose my contacts also?

thealley said:
Actually I did a backup with Titanium, but not sure if I saved it on the internal drive or on the external sd card, and I can't access the phone to check were... but if I remember well it saved in the titanium folder which be default I think saves on the internal drive. Unfortunately neither the pc nor Kies won't recognise the phone...
Do you know with a factory reset if i loose my contacts also?
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It shouldn't matter where your titanium backup is located. A factory reset in recovery should not wipe your SD card. Internal or external. Again I really cannot stress enough that this post belongs in your device section to get the people that know your device best. Your device is not officially supported by the PA team and this is a general ROM flashing issue not an issue with PA ROM
Your contacts should be backed up to Google unless you changed that.
Sent from my Nexus 5

Pirateghost said:
It shouldn't matter where your titanium backup is located. A factory reset in recovery should not wipe your SD card. Internal or external. Again I really cannot stress enough that this post belongs in your device section to get the people that know your device best. Your device is not officially supported by the PA team and this is a general ROM flashing issue not an issue with PA ROM
Your contacts should be backed up to Google unless you changed that.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Hi, I understand your concern and have taken your advice to post also in my device's forum. Thanks for your precious help, really appreciate.

[Q] rooted sm t210r w/ black hawk seal Memory Issues

I root my tab 1 year ago have bricked twice and recovered. Spec below
Original am t210r
Now and stable (both galaxy and operator)
Sm t210
Android 4.1.2
Kernel 3.4.5 blackhawk+
Build number Seal over 4.0
So I know to recover using twrp and have the backup under control and how to do it.
Here's where I'm at I have tried so many apps to try and fix my memory problem. So I can utilize my external SD card and not fill up my internal. I've given up uninstalled all and just keep moving things manually that I know I can photos etc. or just uninstall an app that I really don't want to. I've look through the help for a a long time now. I'm just not smart enough. Can someone just help me with this part please. Thank you very much in advance!!

[Q] Please Help with ROM Install!!

So I have a Samsung Galaxy Note II from T-Mobile (SGH-T889). I have had it rooted for some time. I haven't been able to successfully flash a new rom onto it though. During the install process I get an error towards the end. Thus it never does a clean install of the ROM (generally goes into a boot loop). My main goal would be to have a clean, fast, functional rom with the ExtSD2InternalSD so I can get some more memory on my Note II. You use the Perseus Kernel to get functionality of the EXT2INT. Another issue that came up was the index of my Ext SD card itself. It took a lot of toying around just to get it to show up, but it changed it to EXTSD(0). Now when I want to get into my SD on my computer to back it up, non of the data is actually showing up on my computer.
So 2 main questions?
1. How do I get a clean install of a ROM? (I've followed using Clockwork Mod, deleting everything before flash etc.)
2. How can I change the index of my SD so it can show up on both my phone and PC with all the data that is there?
Sorry if my ?'s have been answered before, just new here and wanted to start out with a thread myself. Thanks!