Below is an email I received. I know very little about the Evo. Fielding suggestions:
hello!
Having a bit of reoccurring problem with my Android and posted my question on facebook. Jason responded & said I should ping you.
First three months with Sprint Evo - awesome. The 7 months since? Erratically hellish.
here's the main issue presently -
Okay Android aficionados, I need advisement - My HTC Evo keeps binding up because my contact information just piles & piles up. It's either a Sprint/Android thing and/or how the setup is pulling updates from Facebook, and to a lesser extent, Twitter and LinkedIn. Any ideas on how to fix this? Short of rooting or an iPhone? App2SD can't move enough stuff to the card. Had about 4 factory reboots in the past 7 months; Sprint tells me it's the number of apps I use (not the case) OR the combination of different apps (Possible, but I'm not buying it). Any way to send contact info to reside on SD card? Strip off the bloatware? Both are workarounds for the real problem but at this point... just need it to work.
Continued -
Fighting the urge to send Dan Hesse an email... For as much as this phone legitimately adds functionality to my life, it has cost me some serious time and sadly, some money also.
One more for good measure -
I would cut out updating my contacts but the information should be able to parse back & forth WITHOUT gumming up. Even a contact list of thousands should be able to do so, given WiFi and 4G (WiMax network) bandwidth. It's bad scripts, conflicting subroutines or bad hardware. HTC has typically had pretty good stuff & quality control is solid. I should be able to tote this thing and have access to my contacts, without having to also tote a laptop and/or tablet. right?
Okay, that's all of the facebook post(s)
Any thoughts? I'm trying to do this without rooting if possible but getting to the point that I might be ready to finally step off the ledge. Don't want to go Apple route; had to get a (used) MacBook Pro recently because I might have to go work for a (marketing/PR) agency and wanted to get back up to speed on OSX. More Apple than I want already.
Thanks & it's a pleasure to make your acquaintance!
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A follow up email....
It's less that the speed isn't really crapping out, It's that the internal memory fills up. My contacts was sitting at 190mb earlier, 160mb now. All are google contacts, no phone contacts. When export the data, it's the paltry 1-2 mb.
Purged my facebook data on the phone to free up some space as a stop game. My phone suddenly bottomed out around 12 today with less than a megabyte of internal memory.
Sure size of the contacts have something to do with it but I've still yet to see any of the "social media personalities" (use that nomenclature loosely and dubiously) complain about contacts gumming up their phone. Probably aren't on Sprint and some get new phones comp'd often enough (to review?) that issue doesn't come up.
I believe in the spirit of Android for certain. It seems to be only thing that can prevent Apple from monopolizing the segment, since Microsoft can't come up with a hybrid of the two that works or gains any sort of real adoption. And I hate the idea of a guy in a mock turtleneck being the de facto source of how I should do things.
As far as non-rooted Android in practice, the current setup of stacking (carrier) bloatware, manufacturer UI / extraneous software and a slightly bastardized Android version (in my case, Gingerbread) seems like too many cooks in the kitchen, even before pouring in apps and data to be managed.
I like HTC's Sense UI but would love to vote all the Sprint crap off the island. If Sense is part of the problem... then I'm willing to look in different directions. I'll quite yammering
Yes, you have issues. You need to root your phone so you can properly move ALL APPS to the SD card. Whats the big deal about rooting? The main problem is space and Sprint does not care.
Root, use a sound custom ROM, move all apps to the card, live happily ever after.
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I recomend you flash Myn's Two Point Two RLS5 as a ROM, it has loads of internal space left after flashing, and lots of add ons like custom keyboards, SBC kerbels, etc...
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^ trust me, that was my first suggestion.
I do not know this person, but they do seem opposed to rooting. Not sure exactly how the internal is so low (I do not use an Evo, is this common?)
Surprised the internal memory is so little. My Vibrant has a ton.
Well, it has Sprint bloatware that can not be moved or removed. Also, contacts takes a chunk of space with that many. If he has fb on phone, that alone will cause problems.
Rooting is the only solution and then once he does, he will probably wished he would have done it months ago.
Seriously, WTF? ROOT IT! It wont break it. All it does is allow ,YOU, the owner, to do what you want with it.
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^ what is the best method now? Assuming the latest GB.... I saw that Revolution was a beta... is that what most use? Better methods?
Thanks man. Wish I knew more about the Evo.
As far as I know yes, revolutionary beta is the only method for those who took the update. I rooted before the update so i used autoroot but I haven't heard of anyone having trouble with revolutionary, works great from what I understand.
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Use revolutionary.
Follow instructions precisely.
You DO NOT need to get your serial number under battery!
When you download rev to your computer and run it, it puts your electronic serial number in brackets on the command prompt line. Use that esn and enter it on the rev website to get they key. Copy and paste that key to the command prompt and hit enter. Let it do its magic. Run superuser, INSTALL THE RECOVERY THAT IT PROMPTS.
Then you can switch to AmonRA after you reboot and confirm S-OFF.
Then make a full nandroid backup of your stock rom. Copy that backup to ur pc. Then install a stock rooted rom from here, then FREEZE apps you do not use, using titanium backup. Move all apps to sd card using titanium. Then reboot and see if your problem is solved.
Note...when you move an app that uses a widget, to the sd card, the widget no longer works.
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Just click the EVO rooted 2.3.3 in my sig it leads directly to the website
Just wanted to put this out there for some original Note fans that might have been in the same situation I was in.
I looked at the Note 5 rumors and said i would never buy it , with no removeable battery , no sd card slot and no ir blaster. I was mad that Samsung wanted to copy the iphone "elegant" look. I was even more angry at all of the previous reviewers of the Note 3 and Note 4 who constantly complained about the fake leather look.(rat bastards are the reason the note looks like it does now , most note owners I know loved the original note looks) . BUT when I went looking at the other phones out , HTC , Moto X , Sony and the like , none of them satisfied what I wanted in a phone. I am really addicted to the S pen , and use it regularly. ATT has a 14 day return policy , so I said screw it I will buy the Note 5 and give it a chance.
I am glad I did , I have only had it a few days and man , this is a nice piece of tech. I dont really care for the glass look , but what the phone does is crazy!! Fast charge really took care of the removeable battery problem(it charges insanely fast) Battery life has been great , after turning off the bloatware apps (which was simple enough with out using any app). I spoke with both ATT and the Samsung rep , who said if the battery isnt holding charge good after a year , it would be warrantied and replaced.
Next I purchased the 32gb model , but seem not not need gobs of space at this moment. I take lots of pictures for both work and play , I will just have to be more focused on getting the pictures of the phone than I was before with an added 64gb sd card. I have an otg cable that seeems to work just fine with most thumb drives , so I think I will be fine without the SD card slot.
The IR blaster , is a true loss , guess I will have to use my Note 12.2 for remote duties now.
That being said , I was worried about getting this phone , but as of now I completely love it , and most likely will keep it until the Note 6 comes out.
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Next I purchased the 32gb model , but seem not not need gobs of space at this moment. I take lots of pictures for both work and play , I will just have to be more focused on getting the pictures of the phone than I was before with an added 64gb sd card.
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I'd suggest you consider using google's new "photos" app. It will auto-upload all your photos to a private "cloud", which acts as a wonderful backup. There's an option with it that allows unlimited storage space (for free.) While that might not be as good as a huge sdcard, it also has many advantages (including the ability to access your photos from anything with a web browser without screwing around with sdcards and cables.)
I've changed phones twice in the past week and all my photos are still there and available on my phone - without cables, backups, sdcards, etc.
I think the biggest drawback with the google photo app (when being used on the note5) is that samsung doesn't tie into it with their own gallery app... so anything that's ONLY in the "cloud" won't show in the samsung gallery app.
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I'd suggest you consider using google's new "photos" app. It will auto-upload all your photos to a private "cloud", which acts as a wonderful backup. There's an option with it that allows unlimited storage space (for free.) While that might not be as good as a huge sdcard, it also has many advantages (including the ability to access your photos from anything with a web browser without screwing around with sdcards and cables.)
I've changed phones twice in the past week and all my photos are still there and available on my phone - without cables, backups, sdcards, etc.
I think the biggest drawback with the google photo app (when being used on the note5) is that samsung doesn't tie into it with their own gallery app... so anything that's ONLY in the "cloud" won't show in the samsung gallery app.
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Thanks , will have to check it out. I have been a little tinfoil hat on the whole cloud thing , but looks like everything is going that way.
Also , the samsung smart switch mobile app ..... THAT WAS GREAT !!!
garyd9 said:
I'd suggest you consider using google's new "photos" app. It will auto-upload all your photos to a private "cloud", which acts as a wonderful backup. There's an option with it that allows unlimited storage space (for free.)
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Yes, but not at the original resolution. So it's not a way to save photos whose quality you care about.
Flickr, on the other hand, lets you cloud-sync 1 TB of photos in full resolution, for free.
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Yes, but not at the original resolution. So it's not a way to save photos whose quality you care about.
Flickr, on the other hand, lets you cloud-sync 1 TB of photos in full resolution, for free.
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They are at the original resolution. Google does recompress them, but it's pretty good.. I haven't noticed any artifacts from their recompression.
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They are at the original resolution.
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No, they're not. If you upload at original resolution, you only get 15GB free at Google (compared to 1TB at Flickr).
Just look it up. Look under "How much does it cost?", and click on "Learn more":
https://support.google.com/photos/answer/6193313?hl=en
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No, they're not. If you upload at original resolution, you only get 15GB free at Google (compared to 1TB at Flickr).
Just look it up. Look under "How much does it cost?", and click on "Learn more":
https://support.google.com/photos/answer/6193313?hl=en
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Go ahead and read it yourself. I'll wait for you. BTW, being this is the "note 5" forum, read it in context of the note 5. Remember that the max resolution of the note 5 camera is 16 megapixel.
Back from reading?
Good. Google photo's does NOT resize photo's that are 16 megapixel or smaller. They DO resize larger pictures to 16 megapixels. They also will probably recompress all images uploaded.
Have a nice day.
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Google photo's [sic] does NOT resize photo's [sic] that are 16 megapixel or smaller.
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No, that's not what Google says. "If the camera takes photos with 16 megapixels (MP) resolution or lower, most stored photos will essentially look the same using either storage option." (emphasis added).
If you're satisfied with "most" photos looking "essentially" the same, then I'm happy you've found a cloud option that meets your needs. But people who don't want to throw away some of their photos' detail should be warned--especially since there's an alternative free option without that drawback.
Wow.... um... if I really care about the photos, I take them with my dslr and upload to deviantArt. Phone photography is just for quick and fun stuff. After looking into it, both Google and Flickr seem fine.
I'm on the same boat with this phone, I have the Note 1, and Note 3 which I use now and the no root has me on the fence about getting it. I can live without custom roms , and custom recovery, but I don't know if I can live without rooting it, I need ad blocker and root explorer, but hey maybe we'll get lucky and get it soon.
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I am on my second Note 5 and am once again experiencing a faulty device. The first device had a faulty WiFi module. This second device has these weird smudges under the screen only visible in sunlight.
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My first device was also faulty. It had a bad BlueTooth madule where the BlueTooth signal was very very week. My current device is now perfect.
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I'm on the same boat with this phone, I have the Note 1, and Note 3 which I use now and the no root has me on the fence about getting it. I can live without custom roms , and custom recovery, but I don't know if I can live without rooting it, I need ad blocker and root explorer, but hey maybe we'll get lucky and get it soon.
RoloRacer on Lollipop'ed Note 3
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I'm with you, this phone is great except I am really missing ad blocker and root explorer. Hopefully we get this thing rooted soon. Also I was reading the note 5 will be one of the first phones to get Marshmallow.
Bootloader locked. Knox'ed up bigtime. The AT&T Note 3 I traded for the Note 5 NEVER got true root, and they blocked the "sorta" root we had with an update.
Don't want to trash anyone's hopes and dreams, but the reality of the situation is the AT&T variant is 99.9% guaranteed to NOT get rooted. So if that's what you need to make you happy, don't get the AT&T variant. If you get the AT&T variant, don't do it with a false hope it's going to get root at some point.
You can disable some of the bloat with Package Disabler Pro, and there are a couple of ad-blocking apps you can get outside of the Play Store. That's the best you're going to do.
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You can disable some of the bloat with Package Disabler Pro, and there are a couple of ad-blocking apps you can get outside of the Play Store. That's the best you're going to do.
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Semi-forced into a non-rooted phone for work, also at the same time my MDL firmware'd S4 started acting up, so went ahead and made the plunge. It's a cool phone, but similar to above, the initial shock is not having ad-away, root call blocker, and tasker/ti-backup, along with a few other minor issues. But, I knew going in the ATT was crazy locked down, but requiring Good Word/Good Access made it a non-issue anyway.
I've bought Package Disabler Pro, and am looking for a decent non-root call blocker solution (other than adding to contacts and assigning silent ringtone), as well as backup needs. TiBack of course is out, but I've been reading about one called Helium that does basic backing up without root. Tasker will run without root of course but you loose Secure Settings root actions ie toggling GPS, Airplane Mode, lock screen settings, etc .
Also, oddly enough this damn Good Work app can trigger non-compliance even if not rooted - still working that out but some apps will trigger a wipe even on a non-rooted phone - Chainfire's 500pics is such an app, a very cool wallpaper changer. Not sure if it's reading the app dev as Chainfire makes a lot of root apps, or if the app itself might have some root strings that aren't used but Good picks up on, or what - but it kinda sucks.
I wish there was an app list of apps known to cause issues with Good and their compliance rules - each time it triggers I have to uninstall and get a new key. Luckily out Good Admin is a good guy, he gave me several keys so I can experiment some this weekend with some apps I haven't installed yet. Tasker, I *think* will be ok as long as I don't install Secure Settings, or at least I hope so. I have a ton of Tasker work and it would really suck to not be able to use it anymore.
Another thing I'm missing is profiles, I've run CM for so long that I guess I though every rom had them, but touchwiz not so much. May have to loo at a non-root profile app if I can get Tasker going... of course without root it may not even be useful...
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Semi-forced into a non-rooted phone for work, also at the same time my MDL firmware'd S4 started acting up, so went ahead and made the plunge. It's a cool phone, but similar to above, the initial shock is not having ad-away, root call blocker, and tasker/ti-backup, along with a few other minor issues. But, I knew going in the ATT was crazy locked down, but requiring Good Word/Good Access made it a non-issue anyway.
I've bought Package Disabler Pro, and am looking for a decent non-root call blocker solution (other than adding to contacts and assigning silent ringtone), as well as backup needs. TiBack of course is out, but I've been reading about one called Helium that does basic backing up without root. Tasker will run without root of course but you loose Secure Settings root actions ie toggling GPS, Airplane Mode, lock screen settings, etc .
Also, oddly enough this damn Good Work app can trigger non-compliance even if not rooted - still working that out but some apps will trigger a wipe even on a non-rooted phone - Chainfire's 500pics is such an app, a very cool wallpaper changer. Not sure if it's reading the app dev as Chainfire makes a lot of root apps, or if the app itself might have some root strings that aren't used but Good picks up on, or what - but it kinda sucks.
I wish there was an app list of apps known to cause issues with Good and their compliance rules - each time it triggers I have to uninstall and get a new key. Luckily out Good Admin is a good guy, he gave me several keys so I can experiment some this weekend with some apps I haven't installed yet. Tasker, I *think* will be ok as long as I don't install Secure Settings, or at least I hope so. I have a ton of Tasker work and it would really suck to not be able to use it anymore.
Another thing I'm missing is profiles, I've run CM for so long that I guess I though every rom had them, but touchwiz not so much. May have to loo at a non-root profile app if I can get Tasker going... of course without root it may not even be useful...
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You got call blocker baked in the phone settings. What for do you need root call blocker. Power toggles works better for toggles.
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ambervals6 said:
You got call blocker baked in the phone settings. What for do you need root call blocker. Power toggles works better for toggles.
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Actually yes I just found that soon after i posted, and have added numbers from my RCB backup. That was one nice thing about RCB, you could maintain lists, etc, schedules (not that I used schedules), etc. But baked in version should work fine for my purposes.
I'll look at power toggles - My situation is somewhat odd, in that my workspace is a protected data center with zero, and I mean zero cell service, gps signal, etc -so if you don't turn those off/go into airplane mode, etc it just eats up battery, so I have tasker profiles/task that autos detect when I'm arriving/leaving/etc - it's more complicated that as I'm aslo setting variables for other conditions/tasks that may fire based on location, etc. that but I won't bore anyone. Tasker made it easy, though .
Still on my first note 5 , no trouble at all.
For call blocking if you want an app I have had great luck with call control, huge blacklist that is community driven.
I have had no trouble disabling apps in the phone itself , including the kindle app. Didn't need to download an app to turn stuff off.
TouchWiz is pretty slick this time and really doesn't bother me at all. The themer that is built in works great and I am running a great dark theme. As far as rooting goes , I am 50/50. I gave up on it cause AT&T locks the phones down hard and partly because I really don't need a custom rom anymore. Most of the things I looked for in a rom are now on the phone stock. Even got the gear s2 to go with it and still get a days use out of battery, without any special apps or root.
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Actually yes I just found that soon after i posted, and have added numbers from my RCB backup. That was one nice thing about RCB, you could maintain lists, etc, schedules (not that I used schedules), etc. But baked in version should work fine for my purposes.
I'll look at power toggles - My situation is somewhat odd, in that my workspace is a protected data center with zero, and I mean zero cell service, gps signal, etc -so if you don't turn those off/go into airplane mode, etc it just eats up battery, so I have tasker profiles/task that autos detect when I'm arriving/leaving/etc - it's more complicated that as I'm aslo setting variables for other conditions/tasks that may fire based on location, etc. that but I won't bore anyone. Tasker made it easy, though .
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So no issues wit Tasker, which is good, but without secure settings it does limit it's use, ie no GPS, no Input Mode, No AP radios/mode, etc. Looking at AutoInput, but seems like GPS/Airplane Mode control is gone.. .